*NBA THREAD* Abe will be missed (8 Viewers)

[sihaokills]

In case the Heat makes it to the finals, Haslem may spend some time guarding Dirk - he was known as the Dirk stopper in the 2006 finals after having some success against him.

Ahhh... He was kind of forgotten

 

[Kev4029]

Why does your name show as Dan Gladden's Mustache but when you get quoted show as just Dan Gladden. I'm easily confused and it confuses me.

 

[Dan Gladden's Mustache]

Why does your name show as Dan Gladden's Mustache but when you get quoted show as just Dan Gladden. I'm easily confused and it confuses me.

Ask Jhoebus, I have no idea.

 

[Britney Spears]

Haslem has been fantastic, I had no idea he would be getting this many minutes in the series.

Did anyone? He probably watched game 1 and said Spoels, just put me in, ain't gettin worse.

I announced it in chat today. Brit didn't bother to show for it.

Need a hint here please.

Oh, it's TRE. Hi!

Oh well hello then!!!

 

[wadegarrett]

Honestly, I think it's too close to call between Irving and Williams. If Irving's foot doesn't check out, I would go with Williams without hesitation if I'm Cleveland.

No worries about Williams being a tweener or the fact that he's only recently become an elite prospect?

I think he'll end up playing mostly the 3 in the pros, maybe a bit of 4 if his team decides to go small. But his athleticism is so good that I think he's basically just a really big SF. And I think he'd be a good rebounding SF, but a below-average PF rebounder, if that makes sense.

I agree with most of that...he's just a really, really good small forward and a servicable 4. Those calling him a tweener haven't seen enough of him. There are only a handful of 3s in the NBA right now that I would take over him.

Cavs have a huge hole at SF which is why Williams/Knight or Williams/Walker is a real possibility. Keep reading that Cavs have loved Irving for a long time though. I keep bouncing back and forth on Irving or Williams at 1. ETA: Although I've seen some columnists mention the Cavs could try to use their huge trade exception and the 4th pick to get 2nd pick and take Irving & Williams.

 

[ArbyMelt]

Heat mostly played 7 last night, starters + Haslem/Miller. I was surprised how well Miller rebounded, I think he got 7 rebounds, including a few tough rebounds in traffic. I think they will continue with this lineup, especially if they can get 25+ minutes out of Haslem each night.

Chalmers has stage fright out there, and James Jones is a liability on defense when he plays the 4 (if they continue to go small). Howard/Magloire shouldn't even be in the NBA

 

[TobiasFunke]

This series just feels like it's gonna be an all-time great one. Three of the five best players in the league on the floor, great story lines, and a little bleeding always makes things seem more intense. Bummed we have to wait until Sunday night for Game 3. My hatred of NBA scheduling grows stronger every day.

 

[Dought Man]

I thought coach Spoe made a nice adjustment in Game 2 defending D Rose on the pick and roll. He made sure his big man would hard show on Rose.. forcing Rose about 1-2 steps further out than normal. Rose starts his drives from further out, giving other defenders time to adjust when he does make it into the paint.

Lebron also guarded Rose for 6 possessions in the 4th quarter.. Rose did not make it into the paint on any of those possessions.

This is going to be an awesome series.. the matchups, adjustments and defensive intensity.

Greg Anthony made a great point about the Heat.. "When your two superstars are also 'hustle' guys, its such an advantage. Most superstars in the NBA are not the hustle players, willing to help defend and dive for loose balls out of bounds."

 

[the moops]

Greg Anthony made a great point about the Heat.. "When your two superstars are also 'hustle' guys, its such an advantage. Most superstars in the NBA are not the hustle players, willing to help defend and dive for loose balls out of bounds."

I think most superstars in the NBA are incredible hustle guys. Howard, Rose, Lebron, Wade, Garnett, Kobe, etc.

 

[Kev4029]

Heat mostly played 7 last night, starters + Haslem/Miller. I was surprised how well Miller rebounded, I think he got 7 rebounds, including a few tough rebounds in traffic. I think they will continue with this lineup, especially if they can get 25+ minutes out of Haslem each night. Chalmers has stage fright out there, and James Jones is a liability on defense when he plays the 4 (if they continue to go small). Howard/Magloire shouldn't even be in the NBA

When Miller is healthy is is one of the best rebounders at the SG/SF position in the NBA.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Seriously, when is the last team an NBA team got this far and saw their starting center score zero points in the first two games of a series? Miami starting center Joel Anthony played a combined 53 minutes in the first two games and didn't score in either game. That is unbelievable.

 

[Kev4029]

This series just feels like it's gonna be an all-time great one. Three of the five best players in the league on the floor, great story lines, and a little bleeding always makes things seem more intense. Bummed we have to wait until Sunday night for Game 3. My hatred of NBA scheduling grows stronger every day.

I don't really think that Bosh is one of the five best players in the league, hes a little too inconsistent for my tastes.

 

[LHUCKS]

This series just feels like it's gonna be an all-time great one. Three of the five best players in the league on the floor, great story lines, and a little bleeding always makes things seem more intense. Bummed we have to wait until Sunday night for Game 3. My hatred of NBA scheduling grows stronger every day.

I don't really think that Bosh is one of the five best players in the league, hes a little too inconsistent for my tastes.

He doesn't even make my top 10

 

[Cliff Clavin]

What an ugly game. Great D for sure but damn was it ugly.

Bosh is the epitome of a guy that puts up good numbers on a bad team. When the ball gets in his hands, it stops dead. I don't know if the guy has ever made a quick move. Totally kills an offense.

 

[ericttspikes]

Surprised that Deng and James played so long. Had to defend each other good

Deng always plays a ton of minutes. He anchors the second team.Bad game by the Bulls. They looked flat for some reason. Somebody needs to tell them they are playing in the ECF. Not sure what was up with Rose. Heat played great D and didn't let him inside, but his outside shooting was terrible. I don't think I saw him have two air balls in a game all year. Hopefully he's not hurt, because he should of been rested but his legs looked dead. I wouldn't feel bad if the Bulls lost and played a good game, but they really stunk it up. They should of lost by 20+ with that performance.

 

[LHUCKS]

Seriously, when is the last team an NBA team got this far and saw their starting center score zero points in the first two games of a series? Miami starting center Joel Anthony played a combined 53 minutes in the first two games and didn't score in either game. That is unbelievable.

Jordan's Bulls had some rather benign centers.

 

[ericttspikes]

Boozer has been stealing for most of this season. What an overhyped waste of money that guy is. Is there another big guy in the league weaker around the rim than him? Love his feathery touch shots 6 inches from hoop that he usually misses. He is just so completely average.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Boozer has been stealing for most of this season. What an overhyped waste of money that guy is. Is there another big guy in the league weaker around the rim than him? Love his feathery touch shots 6 inches from hoop that he usually misses. He is just so completely average.

Chris Bosh.

 

[dino259]

This series just feels like it's gonna be an all-time great one. Three of the five best players in the league on the floor, great story lines, and a little bleeding always makes things seem more intense. Bummed we have to wait until Sunday night for Game 3. My hatred of NBA scheduling grows stronger every day.

I don't really think that Bosh is one of the five best players in the league, hes a little too inconsistent for my tastes.

He doesn't even make my top 10

Three of the 5 does not include Bosh. The 3 is LeBron, Wade, and Rose.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

This series just feels like it's gonna be an all-time great one. Three of the five best players in the league on the floor, great story lines, and a little bleeding always makes things seem more intense. Bummed we have to wait until Sunday night for Game 3. My hatred of NBA scheduling grows stronger every day.

I don't really think that Bosh is one of the five best players in the league, hes a little too inconsistent for my tastes.

He doesn't even make my top 10

Three of the 5 does not include Bosh. The 3 is LeBron, Wade, and Rose.

According to ESPN. The hype train sure has people believing that Rose is an uber-stud.

 

[thecatch]

Seriously, when is the last team an NBA team got this far and saw their starting center score zero points in the first two games of a series? Miami starting center Joel Anthony played a combined 53 minutes in the first two games and didn't score in either game. That is unbelievable.

Jordan's Bulls had some rather benign centers.

Anthony makes Longley look like Wilt Chamberlain.

 

[Kev4029]

Boozer has been stealing for most of this season. What an overhyped waste of money that guy is. Is there another big guy in the league weaker around the rim than him? Love his feathery touch shots 6 inches from hoop that he usually misses. He is just so completely average.

Chris Bosh.

All this Bosh hate is getting out of hand. Bosh shot 69.9% at the hoop this year, over two percentage points higher than Blake Griffin, over 6% higher than Amare. He may not throw down big dunks, but he is plenty effective at the hoop.

 

[Kev4029]

This series just feels like it's gonna be an all-time great one. Three of the five best players in the league on the floor, great story lines, and a little bleeding always makes things seem more intense. Bummed we have to wait until Sunday night for Game 3. My hatred of NBA scheduling grows stronger every day.

I don't really think that Bosh is one of the five best players in the league, hes a little too inconsistent for my tastes.

He doesn't even make my top 10

Three of the 5 does not include Bosh. The 3 is LeBron, Wade, and Rose.

I'm not sure LHUCKS knew that, but I was just kidding around because (and I think everybody here knows this) I don't consider Rose a top 5 player.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Boozer has been stealing for most of this season. What an overhyped waste of money that guy is. Is there another big guy in the league weaker around the rim than him? Love his feathery touch shots 6 inches from hoop that he usually misses. He is just so completely average.

Chris Bosh.

All this Bosh hate is getting out of hand. Bosh shot 69.9% at the hoop this year, over two percentage points higher than Blake Griffin, over 6% higher than Amare. He may not throw down big dunks, but he is plenty effective at the hoop.

I was more referring to his general weakness. He is definitely skilled around the basket but he easily gets shoved around and out-muscled.

 

[Kev4029]

Boozer has been stealing for most of this season. What an overhyped waste of money that guy is. Is there another big guy in the league weaker around the rim than him? Love his feathery touch shots 6 inches from hoop that he usually misses. He is just so completely average.

Chris Bosh.

All this Bosh hate is getting out of hand. Bosh shot 69.9% at the hoop this year, over two percentage points higher than Blake Griffin, over 6% higher than Amare. He may not throw down big dunks, but he is plenty effective at the hoop.

I was more referring to his general weakness. He is definitely skilled around the basket but he easily gets shoved around and out-muscled.

Fair enough, he is a pretty big #####.

 

[ArbyMelt]

Boozer has been stealing for most of this season. What an overhyped waste of money that guy is. Is there another big guy in the league weaker around the rim than him? Love his feathery touch shots 6 inches from hoop that he usually misses. He is just so completely average.

Chris Bosh.

All this Bosh hate is getting out of hand. Bosh shot 69.9% at the hoop this year, over two percentage points higher than Blake Griffin, over 6% higher than Amare. He may not throw down big dunks, but he is plenty effective at the hoop.

Good point. If he can hit the 15 footer, he is effective too. But I would not, ever, give him the ball and let him go 1 on 1, whether its in the post, or at the wing. The offense does not need to run through him, ever.

 

[TobiasFunke]

This series just feels like it's gonna be an all-time great one. Three of the five best players in the league on the floor, great story lines, and a little bleeding always makes things seem more intense. Bummed we have to wait until Sunday night for Game 3. My hatred of NBA scheduling grows stronger every day.

I don't really think that Bosh is one of the five best players in the league, hes a little too inconsistent for my tastes.

He doesn't even make my top 10

Three of the 5 does not include Bosh. The 3 is LeBron, Wade, and Rose.

I'm not sure LHUCKS knew that, but I was just kidding around because (and I think everybody here knows this) I don't consider Rose a top 5 player.

It was my original post and I don't really consider Rose a Top 5 player either. But at the moment he's generally considered to be in that group, which makes the series more enticing.

 

[rodg12]

Why does your name show as Dan Gladden's Mustache but when you get quoted show as just Dan Gladden. I'm easily confused and it confuses me.

Ask Jhoebus, I have no idea.

This is seriously trippy.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

This series just feels like it's gonna be an all-time great one. Three of the five best players in the league on the floor, great story lines, and a little bleeding always makes things seem more intense. Bummed we have to wait until Sunday night for Game 3. My hatred of NBA scheduling grows stronger every day.

I don't really think that Bosh is one of the five best players in the league, hes a little too inconsistent for my tastes.

He doesn't even make my top 10

I think he means LeBron, Wade, and Rose.

 

[rodg12]

Honestly, I think it's too close to call between Irving and Williams. If Irving's foot doesn't check out, I would go with Williams without hesitation if I'm Cleveland.

No worries about Williams being a tweener or the fact that he's only recently become an elite prospect?

I think he'll end up playing mostly the 3 in the pros, maybe a bit of 4 if his team decides to go small. But his athleticism is so good that I think he's basically just a really big SF. And I think he'd be a good rebounding SF, but a below-average PF rebounder, if that makes sense.

I agree with most of that...he's just a really, really good small forward and a servicable 4. Those calling him a tweener haven't seen enough of him. There are only a handful of 3s in the NBA right now that I would take over him.

Cavs have a huge hole at SF which is why Williams/Knight or Williams/Walker is a real possibility. Keep reading that Cavs have loved Irving for a long time though. I keep bouncing back and forth on Irving or Williams at 1. ETA: Although I've seen some columnists mention the Cavs could try to use their huge trade exception and the 4th pick to get 2nd pick and take Irving & Williams.

The bolded would be a great move for the Cavs.

 

[Kev4029]

This series just feels like it's gonna be an all-time great one. Three of the five best players in the league on the floor, great story lines, and a little bleeding always makes things seem more intense. Bummed we have to wait until Sunday night for Game 3. My hatred of NBA scheduling grows stronger every day.

I don't really think that Bosh is one of the five best players in the league, hes a little too inconsistent for my tastes.

He doesn't even make my top 10

I think he means LeBron, Wade, and Rose.

Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[Kev4029]

Honestly, I think it's too close to call between Irving and Williams. If Irving's foot doesn't check out, I would go with Williams without hesitation if I'm Cleveland.

No worries about Williams being a tweener or the fact that he's only recently become an elite prospect?

I think he'll end up playing mostly the 3 in the pros, maybe a bit of 4 if his team decides to go small. But his athleticism is so good that I think he's basically just a really big SF. And I think he'd be a good rebounding SF, but a below-average PF rebounder, if that makes sense.

I agree with most of that...he's just a really, really good small forward and a servicable 4. Those calling him a tweener haven't seen enough of him. There are only a handful of 3s in the NBA right now that I would take over him.

Cavs have a huge hole at SF which is why Williams/Knight or Williams/Walker is a real possibility. Keep reading that Cavs have loved Irving for a long time though. I keep bouncing back and forth on Irving or Williams at 1. ETA: Although I've seen some columnists mention the Cavs could try to use their huge trade exception and the 4th pick to get 2nd pick and take Irving & Williams.

The bolded would be a great move for the Cavs.

Why would Minnesota want to do this and who would the TWolves want to get rid of so bad as to drop down in the draft? The only bad contract they have is Darko, and his contract isn't THAT bad.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Boozer has been stealing for most of this season. What an overhyped waste of money that guy is. Is there another big guy in the league weaker around the rim than him? Love his feathery touch shots 6 inches from hoop that he usually misses. He is just so completely average.

Chris Bosh.

All this Bosh hate is getting out of hand. Bosh shot 69.9% at the hoop this year, over two percentage points higher than Blake Griffin, over 6% higher than Amare. He may not throw down big dunks, but he is plenty effective at the hoop.

Good point. If he can hit the 15 footer, he is effective too. But I would not, ever, give him the ball and let him go 1 on 1, whether its in the post, or at the wing. The offense does not need to run through him, ever.

He did it for years in Toronto and was quite efficient at it. He has a quicker first step than most bigs and they have to respect his jumper. His low post, back to the basket game is pretty weak but facing up from 10-15, there aren't many bigs in the league better than him. The problems he has are holding the ball too damn long and passing out of double teams.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Honestly, I think it's too close to call between Irving and Williams. If Irving's foot doesn't check out, I would go with Williams without hesitation if I'm Cleveland.

No worries about Williams being a tweener or the fact that he's only recently become an elite prospect?

I think he'll end up playing mostly the 3 in the pros, maybe a bit of 4 if his team decides to go small. But his athleticism is so good that I think he's basically just a really big SF. And I think he'd be a good rebounding SF, but a below-average PF rebounder, if that makes sense.

I agree with most of that...he's just a really, really good small forward and a servicable 4. Those calling him a tweener haven't seen enough of him. There are only a handful of 3s in the NBA right now that I would take over him.

Cavs have a huge hole at SF which is why Williams/Knight or Williams/Walker is a real possibility. Keep reading that Cavs have loved Irving for a long time though. I keep bouncing back and forth on Irving or Williams at 1. ETA: Although I've seen some columnists mention the Cavs could try to use their huge trade exception and the 4th pick to get 2nd pick and take Irving & Williams.

I hope your Cavs aren't similarly overthinking it wade. Taking Williams over Irving would be a BIG mistake IMO, unless Knight falls to 4 and exceeds expectations.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Honestly, I think it's too close to call between Irving and Williams. If Irving's foot doesn't check out, I would go with Williams without hesitation if I'm Cleveland.

No worries about Williams being a tweener or the fact that he's only recently become an elite prospect?

I think he'll end up playing mostly the 3 in the pros, maybe a bit of 4 if his team decides to go small. But his athleticism is so good that I think he's basically just a really big SF. And I think he'd be a good rebounding SF, but a below-average PF rebounder, if that makes sense.

I agree with most of that...he's just a really, really good small forward and a servicable 4. Those calling him a tweener haven't seen enough of him. There are only a handful of 3s in the NBA right now that I would take over him.

Cavs have a huge hole at SF which is why Williams/Knight or Williams/Walker is a real possibility. Keep reading that Cavs have loved Irving for a long time though. I keep bouncing back and forth on Irving or Williams at 1. ETA: Although I've seen some columnists mention the Cavs could try to use their huge trade exception and the 4th pick to get 2nd pick and take Irving & Williams.

The bolded would be a great move for the Cavs.

Why would Minnesota want to do this and who would the TWolves want to get rid of so bad as to drop down in the draft? The only bad contract they have is Darko, and his contract isn't THAT bad.

Agreed. Minny needs far more than a trade exception to drop from 2 to 4 in what is perceived as a 2 man draft.

 

[Major]

Even though I'm rooting for the Bulls and OKC, I really want to see a Heat v. Mavs rematch

 

[wadegarrett]

Honestly, I think it's too close to call between Irving and Williams. If Irving's foot doesn't check out, I would go with Williams without hesitation if I'm Cleveland.

No worries about Williams being a tweener or the fact that he's only recently become an elite prospect?

I think he'll end up playing mostly the 3 in the pros, maybe a bit of 4 if his team decides to go small. But his athleticism is so good that I think he's basically just a really big SF. And I think he'd be a good rebounding SF, but a below-average PF rebounder, if that makes sense.

I agree with most of that...he's just a really, really good small forward and a servicable 4. Those calling him a tweener haven't seen enough of him. There are only a handful of 3s in the NBA right now that I would take over him.

Cavs have a huge hole at SF which is why Williams/Knight or Williams/Walker is a real possibility. Keep reading that Cavs have loved Irving for a long time though. I keep bouncing back and forth on Irving or Williams at 1. ETA: Although I've seen some columnists mention the Cavs could try to use their huge trade exception and the 4th pick to get 2nd pick and take Irving & Williams.

The bolded would be a great move for the Cavs.

Why would Minnesota want to do this and who would the TWolves want to get rid of so bad as to drop down in the draft? The only bad contract they have is Darko, and his contract isn't THAT bad.

Agreed. Minny needs far more than a trade exception to drop from 2 to 4 in what is perceived as a 2 man draft.

definitely would have to be more involved...not sure what though...was a tweet I read from Broussard

 

[wadegarrett]

Honestly, I think it's too close to call between Irving and Williams. If Irving's foot doesn't check out, I would go with Williams without hesitation if I'm Cleveland.

No worries about Williams being a tweener or the fact that he's only recently become an elite prospect?

I think he'll end up playing mostly the 3 in the pros, maybe a bit of 4 if his team decides to go small. But his athleticism is so good that I think he's basically just a really big SF. And I think he'd be a good rebounding SF, but a below-average PF rebounder, if that makes sense.

I agree with most of that...he's just a really, really good small forward and a servicable 4. Those calling him a tweener haven't seen enough of him. There are only a handful of 3s in the NBA right now that I would take over him.

Cavs have a huge hole at SF which is why Williams/Knight or Williams/Walker is a real possibility. Keep reading that Cavs have loved Irving for a long time though. I keep bouncing back and forth on Irving or Williams at 1. ETA: Although I've seen some columnists mention the Cavs could try to use their huge trade exception and the 4th pick to get 2nd pick and take Irving & Williams.

I hope your Cavs aren't similarly overthinking it wade. Taking Williams over Irving would be a BIG mistake IMO, unless Knight falls to 4 and exceeds expectations.

Irving seems like the pick from what's been written and I'm completely fine with that obviously...Cavs will certainly explore all options though...great spot to be in right now

 

[Bobcat10]

The Wolves are gonna shop the heck out of that pick around the league....but I don't think the Cavs are going to be able to wow them. Actually, the Wolves probably don't have to do much shopping at all, their phones gotta be ringing. The best shot the Cavs have is to get a 3rd team involved in some fashion. Cavs have assets and the willingness to take on an unreasonable contract.

 

[Kev4029]

Honestly, I think it's too close to call between Irving and Williams. If Irving's foot doesn't check out, I would go with Williams without hesitation if I'm Cleveland.

No worries about Williams being a tweener or the fact that he's only recently become an elite prospect?

I think he'll end up playing mostly the 3 in the pros, maybe a bit of 4 if his team decides to go small. But his athleticism is so good that I think he's basically just a really big SF. And I think he'd be a good rebounding SF, but a below-average PF rebounder, if that makes sense.

I agree with most of that...he's just a really, really good small forward and a servicable 4. Those calling him a tweener haven't seen enough of him. There are only a handful of 3s in the NBA right now that I would take over him.

Cavs have a huge hole at SF which is why Williams/Knight or Williams/Walker is a real possibility. Keep reading that Cavs have loved Irving for a long time though. I keep bouncing back and forth on Irving or Williams at 1. ETA: Although I've seen some columnists mention the Cavs could try to use their huge trade exception and the 4th pick to get 2nd pick and take Irving & Williams.

The bolded would be a great move for the Cavs.

Why would Minnesota want to do this and who would the TWolves want to get rid of so bad as to drop down in the draft? The only bad contract they have is Darko, and his contract isn't THAT bad.

Agreed. Minny needs far more than a trade exception to drop from 2 to 4 in what is perceived as a 2 man draft.

definitely would have to be more involved...not sure what though...was a tweet I read from Broussard

Beasley? That would make a lot of sense if they were going after Williams.Irving, SG, Beasley, Hickson, Varejao with Kanter, Davis, Jamison and another SG looks a whole lot better than what they had last year.

 

[Abraham]

The Wolves are gonna shop the heck out of that pick around the league

Let me chime in that the Rockets would love that pick. They have quite a few assets to trade. Of course KAAAAHHHHNNN may keep the pick. But the Rockets have three firsts in the next two years (IIRC) and some interesting young players. Derrick Williams would be a great fit on Houston's team. So would Kanter.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Honestly, I think it's too close to call between Irving and Williams. If Irving's foot doesn't check out, I would go with Williams without hesitation if I'm Cleveland.

No worries about Williams being a tweener or the fact that he's only recently become an elite prospect?

I think he'll end up playing mostly the 3 in the pros, maybe a bit of 4 if his team decides to go small. But his athleticism is so good that I think he's basically just a really big SF. And I think he'd be a good rebounding SF, but a below-average PF rebounder, if that makes sense.

I agree with most of that...he's just a really, really good small forward and a servicable 4. Those calling him a tweener haven't seen enough of him. There are only a handful of 3s in the NBA right now that I would take over him.

Cavs have a huge hole at SF which is why Williams/Knight or Williams/Walker is a real possibility. Keep reading that Cavs have loved Irving for a long time though. I keep bouncing back and forth on Irving or Williams at 1. ETA: Although I've seen some columnists mention the Cavs could try to use their huge trade exception and the 4th pick to get 2nd pick and take Irving & Williams.

The bolded would be a great move for the Cavs.

Why would Minnesota want to do this and who would the TWolves want to get rid of so bad as to drop down in the draft? The only bad contract they have is Darko, and his contract isn't THAT bad.

Agreed. Minny needs far more than a trade exception to drop from 2 to 4 in what is perceived as a 2 man draft.

definitely would have to be more involved...not sure what though...was a tweet I read from Broussard

Beasley? That would make a lot of sense if they were going after Williams.Irving, SG, Beasley, Hickson, Varejao with Kanter, Davis, Jamison and another SG looks a whole lot better than what they had last year.

if the Cavs want Irving and Kanter they can probably stay at 4. The hypothetical above is about them trading for #2 to get Irving and Williams, so Beasley wouldn't make sense.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

The Wolves are gonna shop the heck out of that pick around the league....but I don't think the Cavs are going to be able to wow them. Actually, the Wolves probably don't have to do much shopping at all, their phones gotta be ringing. The best shot the Cavs have is to get a 3rd team involved in some fashion. Cavs have assets and the willingness to take on an unreasonable contract.

like Detroit (Rip Hamilton)

 

[Gr00vus]

Some really crummy offense last night. I expect better from the Heat, but they apparently are allergic to actual sets and plays on offense. At least Spoelstra earned his game check yesterday with the defensive adjustments.

That LeBron guy is pretty good though.

I'm thinking OKC ties it up tonight too, with a return to goodness by Westbrook.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Some really crummy offense last night. I expect better from the Heat, but they apparently are allergic to actual sets and plays on offense. At least Spoelstra earned his game check yesterday with the defensive adjustments.That LeBron guy is pretty good though.I'm thinking OKC ties it up tonight too, with a return to goodness by Westbrook.

It wasn't a work of art offensively on either end, but the Heat were facing the league's best defense on their home court. I give them a pass on that end.I'm a UNC guy, so take from it what you will, but I thought Boozer's ineffectiveness was the story last night. There wasn't much they could do about LeBron's run at the end- for the most part he was converting on some very difficult shots.

 

[Gr00vus]

Some really crummy offense last night. I expect better from the Heat, but they apparently are allergic to actual sets and plays on offense. At least Spoelstra earned his game check yesterday with the defensive adjustments.That LeBron guy is pretty good though.I'm thinking OKC ties it up tonight too, with a return to goodness by Westbrook.

It wasn't a work of art offensively on either end, but the Heat were facing the league's best defense on their home court. I give them a pass on that end.I'm a UNC guy, so take from it what you will, but I thought Boozer's ineffectiveness was the story last night. There wasn't much they could do about LeBron's run at the end- for the most part he was converting on some very difficult shots.

I guess. And I should give credit for how they completely worked over Korver while he was out there. Then again that was just bad defensive decisions by whoever was on LeBron. No way you leave LeBron for Bibby, even if it means Bibby has a clear jumper. Still the Heat offense seems to basically boil down to Wade or James directing the teammate nearest them to try to set a pick (which those guys don't seem to be able to execute very well), and then Wade or James "does something."I tried to tell people Boozer isn't a great guy to have once you hit the big time in the playoffs. When he's matched up against top level 4's he's easy to exploit and struggles on the offensive end. He's probably the worst of the starting 4's left in the playoffs. That's right, I'm saying I think I like Ibaka better than him, though I'm not 100% on that.

 

[JMon348]

Some really crummy offense last night. I expect better from the Heat, but they apparently are allergic to actual sets and plays on offense. At least Spoelstra earned his game check yesterday with the defensive adjustments.

That LeBron guy is pretty good though.

I'm thinking OKC ties it up tonight too, with a return to goodness by Westbrook.

It wasn't a work of art offensively on either end, but the Heat were facing the league's best defense on their home court. I give them a pass on that end.I'm a UNC guy, so take from it what you will, but I thought Boozer's ineffectiveness was the story last night. There wasn't much they could do about LeBron's run at the end- for the most part he was converting on some very difficult shots.

I guess. And I should give credit for how they completely worked over Korver while he was out there. Then again that was just bad defensive decisions by whoever was on LeBron. No way you leave LeBron for Bibby, even if it means Bibby has a clear jumper. Still the Heat offense seems to basically boil down to Wade or James directing the teammate nearest them to try to set a pick (which those guys don't seem to be able to execute very well), and then Wade or James "does something."I tried to tell people Boozer isn't a great guy to have once you hit the big time in the playoffs. When he's matched up against top level 4's he's easy to exploit and struggles on the offensive end. He's probably the worst of the starting 4's left in the playoffs. That's right, I'm saying I think I like Ibaka better than him, though I'm not 100% on that.

I am.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Some really crummy offense last night. I expect better from the Heat, but they apparently are allergic to actual sets and plays on offense. At least Spoelstra earned his game check yesterday with the defensive adjustments.That LeBron guy is pretty good though.I'm thinking OKC ties it up tonight too, with a return to goodness by Westbrook.

It wasn't a work of art offensively on either end, but the Heat were facing the league's best defense on their home court. I give them a pass on that end.I'm a UNC guy, so take from it what you will, but I thought Boozer's ineffectiveness was the story last night. There wasn't much they could do about LeBron's run at the end- for the most part he was converting on some very difficult shots.

I guess. And I should give credit for how they completely worked over Korver while he was out there. Then again that was just bad defensive decisions by whoever was on LeBron. No way you leave LeBron for Bibby, even if it means Bibby has a clear jumper. Still the Heat offense seems to basically boil down to Wade or James directing the teammate nearest them to try to set a pick (which those guys don't seem to be able to execute very well), and then Wade or James "does something."I tried to tell people Boozer isn't a great guy to have once you hit the big time in the playoffs. When he's matched up against top level 4's he's easy to exploit and struggles on the offensive end. He's probably the worst of the starting 4's left in the playoffs. That's right, I'm saying I think I like Ibaka better than him, though I'm not 100% on that.

I agree- there were several points last night when I found myself a little bit stunned at how stagnant the Heat were on offense when they couldn't get out on the break. It was the Bulls playing at home, a tall task for any offense. But it's not like that was the first time I've had that impression.

 

[Gr00vus]

Kareem pitching another hissy fit. He's always been a delicate flower psychologically. Whine some more Kareem! Great times to be a Laker fan. <_<

 

[Ghost Rider]

Kareem pitching another hissy fit. He's always been a delicate flower psychologically. Whine some more Kareem! Great times to be a Laker fan. <_<

He's right, though. All of those statues in front of Staples, and his isn't one of them? That is pretty bad.