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mlball77
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Salmons is an ok player, but not someone that helps the Kings at wing. Assuming Thornton is back, there is zero need for a guy like Salmons, imo. I really hope this was a move to dump salary (Beno's) and the Kings/Petrie have their guy locked in at #10 or are nowtrying to move #10 for a vet PG at this time.
Notorious T.R.E.
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Gotta be Kemba at 10...my draft board in a shambles...adjusting.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Right...figured that out after posting.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Wojwhatever saying that Kings are getting Salmons.
mlball77
Footballguy
No worries. Plus, it sounds like the Kings are actually getting Salmons in this deal. Ugh.We need at least 5 more mediocre wings on the Kings.
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Footballguy
To meet the NBA's minimum salary cap requirements? They did the same thing earlier this season when they traded for Marquis Daniels.It's also possible that they've got no use for Udrih and whatever player they're targeting at 7 will be there at 10.
They're taking on a lot more money in this deal than in the Daniels trade, and Salmons is the exact opposite of the player they have been trying to acquire (defenders, distributors, 3 pt shooters). If there's no secondary deal in place, this one is just bafflingTo meet the NBA's minimum salary cap requirements? They did the same thing earlier this season when they traded for Marquis Daniels.It's also possible that they've got no use for Udrih and whatever player they're targeting at 7 will be there at 10.
mlball77
Footballguy
A deal for Tony Parker? LOL. We Kings fans gotta hope something is in the works.They're taking on a lot more money in this deal than in the Daniels trade, and Salmons is the exact opposite of the player they have been trying to acquire (defenders, distributors, 3 pt shooters). If there's no secondary deal in place, this one is just bafflingTo meet the NBA's minimum salary cap requirements? They did the same thing earlier this season when they traded for Marquis Daniels.It's also possible that they've got no use for Udrih and whatever player they're targeting at 7 will be there at 10.
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Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Still doesn't make sense. Salmons has a bad, long-term contract.To meet the NBA's minimum salary cap requirements? They did the same thing earlier this season when they traded for Marquis Daniels.It's also possible that they've got no use for Udrih and whatever player they're targeting at 7 will be there at 10.
Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub
Footballguy
Kings move down and take on more money on an overpaid average NBA player.
Kevin Johnson probably wants them to move now.
Kevin Johnson probably wants them to move now.
the moops
Footballguy
Salmons has shot 42%, 38% and 38% from three point land the past 3 years and he is a very good, versatile defender.
rodg12
Footballguy
Lots of talk that the Jimmer is going to Sacto at #10...
Notorious T.R.E.
Showdown!™ Administrator
Yeah, reading that too now. Kemba or Jimmer going 10 I think. Jimmer might make more sense since he's the better shooter.Edit: The other one might go 9 to Charlotte, right?
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Captain Quinoa
Footballguy
A deal for Tony Parker? LOL. We Kings fans gotta hope something is in the works.They're taking on a lot more money in this deal than in the Daniels trade, and Salmons is the exact opposite of the player they have been trying to acquire (defenders, distributors, 3 pt shooters). If there's no secondary deal in place, this one is just bafflingTo meet the NBA's minimum salary cap requirements? They did the same thing earlier this season when they traded for Marquis Daniels.It's also possible that they've got no use for Udrih and whatever player they're targeting at 7 will be there at 10.
Village Idiot
Pokerguy
Here are the contracts:
Jackson: Two years, over $19 million, all guaranteed.
Salmons: Four years, $31 million, over $24 million guaranteed.
Maggette: Two years, over $21 million, all gauranteed.
Jackson: Two years, over $19 million, all guaranteed.
Salmons: Four years, $31 million, over $24 million guaranteed.
Maggette: Two years, over $21 million, all gauranteed.
Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub
Footballguy
Jefferson is useless. For all the good the Spurs do, never ever will understand why they kept him around.
mlball77
Footballguy
What does Jefferson's contract look like?Anyway, I thought acquiring Salmons might be a move to build up for a deal to get Parker. But it seems far-fetched to me as well.A deal for Tony Parker? LOL. We Kings fans gotta hope something is in the works.They're taking on a lot more money in this deal than in the Daniels trade, and Salmons is the exact opposite of the player they have been trying to acquire (defenders, distributors, 3 pt shooters). If there's no secondary deal in place, this one is just bafflingTo meet the NBA's minimum salary cap requirements? They did the same thing earlier this season when they traded for Marquis Daniels.It's also possible that they've got no use for Udrih and whatever player they're targeting at 7 will be there at 10.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Man, a Jimmer/Tyreke backcourt would've been awesome.
the moops
Footballguy
RJ is getting 9 mill next year, 10 mill the year after, and has a player option for 11 mill after that. OofWhat does Jefferson's contract look like?Anyway, I thought acquiring Salmons might be a move to build up for a deal to get Parker. But it seems far-fetched to me as well.A deal for Tony Parker? LOL. We Kings fans gotta hope something is in the works.They're taking on a lot more money in this deal than in the Daniels trade, and Salmons is the exact opposite of the player they have been trying to acquire (defenders, distributors, 3 pt shooters). If there's no secondary deal in place, this one is just bafflingTo meet the NBA's minimum salary cap requirements? They did the same thing earlier this season when they traded for Marquis Daniels.It's also possible that they've got no use for Udrih and whatever player they're targeting at 7 will be there at 10.
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
Prelude to a Tyreke deal?
well I'm on my phone but I don't remember him shooting nearly that well last time he was in sacto.
mlball77
Footballguy
That's a nasty contract. Yikes. But maybe the Maloofs can stomach it in order to land Parker?RJ is getting 9 mill next year, 10 mill the year after, and has a player option for 11 mill after that. OofWhat does Jefferson's contract look like?Anyway, I thought acquiring Salmons might be a move to build up for a deal to get Parker. But it seems far-fetched to me as well.A deal for Tony Parker? LOL. We Kings fans gotta hope something is in the works.They're taking on a lot more money in this deal than in the Daniels trade, and Salmons is the exact opposite of the player they have been trying to acquire (defenders, distributors, 3 pt shooters). If there's no secondary deal in place, this one is just bafflingTo meet the NBA's minimum salary cap requirements? They did the same thing earlier this season when they traded for Marquis Daniels.It's also possible that they've got no use for Udrih and whatever player they're targeting at 7 will be there at 10.
Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub
Footballguy
Jefferson has one of the worst contracts in the league. Totally useless player.
SA could have wash their hands of him, but likely asked him (was scheduled for $15 mil this past year in last year of deal) to opt out last year in order to get a longer agreement in place. So instead of his $15 mil expiring being an asset this past year, they're again saddled with a piss poor player with a terrible contract. Jefferson should be playing a Juwan Howard / Luke Walton role already.
I think it'd be a miracle to get rid of his contract.
SA could have wash their hands of him, but likely asked him (was scheduled for $15 mil this past year in last year of deal) to opt out last year in order to get a longer agreement in place. So instead of his $15 mil expiring being an asset this past year, they're again saddled with a piss poor player with a terrible contract. Jefferson should be playing a Juwan Howard / Luke Walton role already.
I think it'd be a miracle to get rid of his contract.
the moops
Footballguy
I didnt get to see much of him this year, but is this true? Looking at his numbers, he had his best shooting year of his career. 44% from three point land, .612 TS%, .579 eFG%.
Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub
Footballguy
Duncan, Parker, Manu, Hill, Neal, Blair, Splitter -- I'd take each and every one of them over Jefferson.If you want to consider contracts, Bonner too.There's a reason SA (the most respected scouting team in the league IMHO) wants to rid of him. Puzzling that a team that rarely makes bad choices, goofed up this bad on this one. They extended the Jefferson problem when they simply could have been rid of him by now.
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sihaokills
Footballguy
Good deal for the Kings
Abraham
Footballguy
The cavs have a trade exception that would adsorb Jefferson. And he is a vet that could help the locker room
Any chance the kings send the 10 and Jefferson to Cleveland for a 2nd?
That means the kings basically sent beno and their pick for aalmons and Tony Parker, which isn't the worst haul ever.
Any chance the kings send the 10 and Jefferson to Cleveland for a 2nd?
That means the kings basically sent beno and their pick for aalmons and Tony Parker, which isn't the worst haul ever.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Help do what?
Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub
Footballguy
The Kings now have Jefferson? And Parker? And still had the 10 in the process? (Thought the whole point of getting Parker was parting with #10?)I firmly believe Jefferson is useless, right now @ 31 years old. Can't imagine him in 3 years when his contract is up. Such an ugly ugly contract. Unless Jerome James and his contract are coming through the door, I want no part of Jefferson at all.If he's useless for a contender (I'll call the Spurs that though realistically that window is now shut), what value does he have for a lesser team??
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Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub
Footballguy
Give me Caspi, Greene, Garcia or slide Salmons to the 3 before I take on Jefferson's contract.Jefferson is one of the worst starting 3's in the league.
Mr. PadresLakers
Footballguy
Ron Artest legally changed his name to "Metta World Peace" 
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Rules.Ron Artest legally changed his name to "Metta World Peace"
mlball77
Footballguy
But would you rather have Parker at PG with Jefferson at SF or Beno at PG with Casspi/Greene/Garcia at SF?
Abraham
Footballguy
Disregard my post about the 10 pick and Cavs...i Was not tjhinknig straight. Sorry.
The Jefferson hate is
THe guy is very overpaid. But he's not horrible. He shot 44% from 3 this season and doesn't turn the ball over. You aren't winning a title with Jefferson as your best player, but he's certainly a better player then he's being talked about as in this thread. If he was making half as much money no one would say a thing. Toss in that NO ONE is signing in Sacramento as a FA any time soon and you're left with either drafting more young guys that never develop or taking on a veteran who can shoot a little, won't turn the ball over, and won't do something stupid.
The Jefferson hate is
THe guy is very overpaid. But he's not horrible. He shot 44% from 3 this season and doesn't turn the ball over. You aren't winning a title with Jefferson as your best player, but he's certainly a better player then he's being talked about as in this thread. If he was making half as much money no one would say a thing. Toss in that NO ONE is signing in Sacramento as a FA any time soon and you're left with either drafting more young guys that never develop or taking on a veteran who can shoot a little, won't turn the ball over, and won't do something stupid.Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub
Footballguy
I'd probably go Jimmer, Kemba, or traded 10 for straight for George Hill before I took traded 10 & took on Jefferson.Parker/Jefferson for 10/Salmons is reasonable I suppose. Wouldn't be my first choice.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Did Jefferson sleep with your wife or something?
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this happened and Parker went back to Europe.
Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub
Footballguy
I think he'd be overpaid at half of what he's making.
Dan Gladden's Mustache
Footballguy
Jefferson slept with my wife. 
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
Mr Sally Hemmings?Jefferson slept with my wife.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
When I see the first clip of drunken Ginzos wearing orange Knicks t-shirts, I get all fluttery and happy inside.
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
G f b # that man.Ron Artest legally changed his name to "Metta World Peace"
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Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Nice robotic interview by Irving there.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Barry is a knob.
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