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[Kev4029]

If CP3 does land in the Bay with the proposed Curry/Udoh/Klay Thompson deal what do you guys think this DUBS team will do?PG: CP3SG: EllisSF: WrightPF: David LeeC: ChandlerCP3 did some damage with a similar front court (substitute David West for David Lee), but Ellis and Wright have to be the best perimeter players Cp3 has ever played with.

David Lee would look like an all-star again. I think with Paul, they would be best suited to look into trades with Ellis. It would certainly be nice to have a player that could create along side Paul, but Ellis is a little too ball hungry IMO. Maybe a Iggy for Ellis swap?Either way, this team would certainly move into the playoffs somewhere behind OKC, LA, SA and Dallas.... probably closer to 5th than 8th. If they were able to trade Ellis for Iggy I think they may slide in ahead of San Antonio and Dallas, just behind OKC and LA.

 

[Kev4029]

Interesting that espn is suggesting te hornets

Might take gasol and parts for Paul while the magic might take Bynum and parts (odom presumably) for Howard.

I hadn't thought of it that way. Gasol in the west would be a heck of an addiition for the hornets. And while Bynum isn't Howard, he is far from dead weight for a team like Orlando.

3 Teams in lead for CP3: Clips, Dubs, CelticsPaul + who the hell cares for...

GSW: Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson (rookie), Ekpe Udoh

LAC: Eric Gordon, DeAndre Jordan, Eric Bledsoe

BOS: Rajon Rondo, 2012 lottery protected pick, Avery Bradley, E'Twaun Moore (rookie) + Jeff Green (?)

If I am NOR, I would choose all of these options over Gasol + parts unless it was a Gasol + Bynum for CP3 deal. Of the 3, if I were the NOR GM I would take the Clippers offer in a heartbeat. Gordon is the most well rounded of the 3 lead players (Curry and Rondo) and I think Jordan/Bledsoe have more potential than Udoh/Thompson mainly because of Jordan's freaksih size/athletcism and don't really like the garbage BOS is adding.

The LA trade would be great for NO. If that were to go down, I'm sure they would also be looking to get rid of Okafor to the highest bidder as well and he may even be included in the LA trade.

 

[EYLive]

Nets pick would be in early 20s if deal goes down but GS pick should be in early to mid teens.

Not too high on Deng especially with his contract - but Noah would be the player I like the best offered so far.....both Bulls and Nets offers better than what LA could come up with if no Bynum IMO

I forgot that one pick would be from GS. Is it lottery protected? Noah >>> Bynum. They're about equal in talent but Noah has functioning knees and doesn't act like a 12 year old girl.

Do you watch the games? He's a 7 foot vigina every time calls don't go his way and gets outplayed.

 

[Abraham]

Gordon, Jordan, and Bledsoe would be a great haul for new orleans. Wouldn't do much to boost the value of the team as they look for a buyer but that group is two years and a decent power forward away from being really solid.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Interesting that espn is suggesting te hornets

Might take gasol and parts for Paul while the magic might take Bynum and parts (odom presumably) for Howard.

I hadn't thought of it that way. Gasol in the west would be a heck of an addiition for the hornets. And while Bynum isn't Howard, he is far from dead weight for a team like Orlando.

3 Teams in lead for CP3: Clips, Dubs, CelticsPaul + who the hell cares for...

GSW: Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson (rookie), Ekpe Udoh

LAC: Eric Gordon, DeAndre Jordan, Eric Bledsoe

BOS: Rajon Rondo, 2012 lottery protected pick, Avery Bradley, E'Twaun Moore (rookie) + Jeff Green (?)

If I am NOR, I would choose all of these options over Gasol + parts unless it was a Gasol + Bynum for CP3 deal. Of the 3, if I were the NOR GM I would take the Clippers offer in a heartbeat. Gordon is the most well rounded of the 3 lead players (Curry and Rondo) and I think Jordan/Bledsoe have more potential than Udoh/Thompson mainly because of Jordan's freaksih size/athletcism and don't really like the garbage BOS is adding.

The LA trade would be great for NO. If that were to go down, I'm sure they would also be looking to get rid of Okafor to the highest bidder as well and he may even be included in the LA trade.

Yeah, the Hornets should accept that offer immediately. Which is why I think it's not being offered. The Clippers would be crazy to make that trade. And Jordan is a FA, so how are they offering him up?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Barring any sort of assurances, I don't think it's worth giving up Curry. Paul says having Chandler there would help quite a bit, but it's too big of a gamble unless we know Paul's on board for the long haul, IMO.

Jordan's an RFA, btw.

Different topic:

Does anyone know of a database that lists how often a team scores 0, 1, 2, or 3 points in a possession? Or even just how often a team scores any points in a possession vs. pointsless possessions? TIA.

 

[the moops]

Couple things.

1) Paul apparently has said he is interested in the Clippers because he likes the Gordon/Griffin duo. If they trade Gordon, that negates the appeal.

2) As of now, Golden St and the Clippers are requiring Paul to sign an extension. The Celtics are not.

 

[Bobcat10]

fwiw, I heard/read last night somewhere that Gordon was NOT in the Clippers offer to NO. Probably something I breezed thru on the Tweeter.

 

[Premier]

"As Steve Kyler of HOOPSWORLD reports, the Magic are "operating" under the assumption that Howard will stay, and thus "will spare no expense" in order to acquire more talent to put around him. Kyler, citing Howard's "camp," says the former No. 1 overall draft pick "wants to finish what he started" with the Magic."

 

[Kiddnets]

fwiw, I heard/read last night somewhere that Gordon was NOT in the Clippers offer to NO. Probably something I breezed thru on the Tweeter.

I read that as well on twitter....I think the GS deal is the best but if he wont sign then its moot.

 

[No. 16]

Barring any sort of assurances, I don't think it's worth giving up Curry. Paul says having Chandler there would help quite a bit, but it's too big of a gamble unless we know Paul's on board for the long haul, IMO.Jordan's an RFA, btw.Different topicoes anyone know of a database that lists how often a team scores 0, 1, 2, or 3 points in a possession? Or even just how often a team scores any points in a possession vs. pointsless possessions? TIA.

Don't remember seeing that stat in any database (B-R, hoopdata, etc).However team offensive efficiency is points per 100 possessions.You could divided that number by 2 to get a rough idea of how many FGM that would be. I know TS% weights for 3pt, 2pt, and free throws so someone could figure out how to use that to get the actual shots maybe? For example last year the Warriors according to hoopdata had a OffEff of 105.5.105.5/2 = 52.75 2 point possessions.So the Dubs scored on roughly 52.75% of their possessions.The Nuggets were the highest at 109.5 per 100 possessions. So they scored on roughly 54.5% of their possessions.The Bucks were the lowest at 99 per 100 possessions. So they scored on roughly 49.5% of their possessions. Hoopdata also supplies 3 point rates (3PTA/FGA) so maybe someone smarter than me can figure out how to figure out the exact possessions scored.

 

[Kiddnets]

"As Steve Kyler of HOOPSWORLD reports, the Magic are "operating" under the assumption that Howard will stay, and thus "will spare no expense" in order to acquire more talent to put around him. Kyler, citing Howard's "camp," says the former No. 1 overall draft pick "wants to finish what he started" with the Magic."

I figured thats what will happen and I cant blame the Magic....tough to deal a top 5 player for under market value...problem is that by doing this Otis is taking a high risk that he gets zero if he walks. Yes he'll be under the cap in a few years but now is his chance to get some picks and a solid player in exchange. Tough call but from what I have seen I dont think hes staying and would sell to the highest bidder.

 

[the moops]

There is a good chance that Howard even picks up his player option at the end of this year, IMO. If he signs as a free agent after this season, the most he can get in 4/74. His player option is for 19.25 million.

 

[Sammy3469]

There is a good chance that Howard even picks up his player option at the end of this year, IMO. If he signs as a free agent after this season, the most he can get in 4/74. His player option is for 19.25 million.

That was always the "loophole" in all this. All the big 3 make significantly more in the long haul if they pick up their player option after this year and then sign a max deal the next year...especially if they want to eventually move on.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

oof. Looking at the Raptors schedule, they have 5 games in 6 nights once and 5 games in 7 days 3 times. Great work NBA

 

[No. 16]

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[Abraham]

SAm Delnbert reportedly likes the Rockets, which is fine with me. I'm really hoping they don't spend a bunch of loot on Nene.

 

[the moops]

I can't imagine the Hornets taking someone like Gasol for Paul. It seems to make much more sense for them to focus on rebuilding and taking on a 32 year old making max money doesn't seem like a prudent move. Seems as the teams most often mentioned are Golden State, Boston, and both LA teams. If you were New Orleans, which of the following would you prefer as the centerpiece(s) of a deal?

Curry and Udoh

Rondo and Green

Bynum

Bledsoe and Jordan

 

[Juxtatarot]

I can't imagine the Hornets taking someone like Gasol for Paul. It seems to make much more sense for them to focus on rebuilding and taking on a 32 year old making max money doesn't seem like a prudent move. Seems as the teams most often mentioned are Golden State, Boston, and both LA teams. If you were New Orleans, which of the following would you prefer as the centerpiece(s) of a deal?Curry and UdohRondo and GreenBynumBledsoe and Jordan

I'd want Curry. There are too many question marks about Bynum's knees and Rondo's character and disappearing shot.

 

[Yo Mama]

I can't imagine the Hornets taking someone like Gasol for Paul. It seems to make much more sense for them to focus on rebuilding and taking on a 32 year old making max money doesn't seem like a prudent move. Seems as the teams most often mentioned are Golden State, Boston, and both LA teams. If you were New Orleans, which of the following would you prefer as the centerpiece(s) of a deal?Curry and UdohRondo and GreenBynumBledsoe and Jordan

Probably need to add the Minn 2012 1st pick to the Clippers players (and assume Jordan signs extension with NO)

 

[Gr00vus]

oof. Looking at the Raptors schedule, they have 5 games in 6 nights once and 5 games in 7 days 3 times. Great work NBA

Everybody has stretches like this in their schedule. Comes of squeezing 66 games into not enough weeks.

 

[Gr00vus]

fwiw, I heard/read last night somewhere that Gordon was NOT in the Clippers offer to NO. Probably something I breezed thru on the Tweeter.

I read that as well on twitter....I think the GS deal is the best but if he wont sign then its moot.

Word around L.A. is the Clips won't deal Gordon. They're set up pretty good, they don't need to break the bank for Paul in a trade this year.

 

[the moops]

I can't imagine the Hornets taking someone like Gasol for Paul. It seems to make much more sense for them to focus on rebuilding and taking on a 32 year old making max money doesn't seem like a prudent move. Seems as the teams most often mentioned are Golden State, Boston, and both LA teams. If you were New Orleans, which of the following would you prefer as the centerpiece(s) of a deal?Curry and UdohRondo and GreenBynumBledsoe and Jordan

I'd want Curry. There are too many question marks about Bynum's knees and Rondo's character and disappearing shot.

Rondo has never had a shot so it's not as if it has disappeared.

 

[tommyGunZ]

I can't imagine the Hornets taking someone like Gasol for Paul. It seems to make much more sense for them to focus on rebuilding and taking on a 32 year old making max money doesn't seem like a prudent move. Seems as the teams most often mentioned are Golden State, Boston, and both LA teams. If you were New Orleans, which of the following would you prefer as the centerpiece(s) of a deal?Curry and UdohRondo and GreenBynumBledsoe and Jordan

CP3 isn't going to sign a long term deal with 3 of those teams, so why would they pony up all that talent for a 1 year, 66 game rental? GS in particular would be insane to deal Curry for 66 games of CP3.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

oof. Looking at the Raptors schedule, they have 5 games in 6 nights once and 5 games in 7 days 3 times. Great work NBA

Everybody has stretches like this in their schedule. Comes of squeezing 66 games into not enough weeks.

I'm sure they do. Gonna make for an awful season.

 

[the moops]

I can't imagine the Hornets taking someone like Gasol for Paul. It seems to make much more sense for them to focus on rebuilding and taking on a 32 year old making max money doesn't seem like a prudent move. Seems as the teams most often mentioned are Golden State, Boston, and both LA teams. If you were New Orleans, which of the following would you prefer as the centerpiece(s) of a deal?Curry and UdohRondo and GreenBynumBledsoe and Jordan

CP3 isn't going to sign a long term deal with 3 of those teams, so why would they pony up all that talent for a 1 year, 66 game rental? GS in particular would be insane to deal Curry for 66 games of CP3.

I find it hard to believe that Paul wont sign the 5/100 deal with any of those teams compared to a 4/74 anywhere else (or a 4/58 with the Knicks).

 

[Gr00vus]

oof. Looking at the Raptors schedule, they have 5 games in 6 nights once and 5 games in 7 days 3 times. Great work NBA

Everybody has stretches like this in their schedule. Comes of squeezing 66 games into not enough weeks.

I'm sure they do. Gonna make for an awful season.

It'll be rugged. Young teams should benefit, teams that have to deal with non trivial injuries are going to be hit harder than usual as there won't be any recovery time and more games will be missed than usual.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Someone needs to tell ESPN that there is no such thing is back-to-back-to-back. If two things are back to back, the third thing would be front to front. That's why nobody ever used that phrase until someone made it up to describe sports things.

 

[tommyGunZ]

I can't imagine the Hornets taking someone like Gasol for Paul. It seems to make much more sense for them to focus on rebuilding and taking on a 32 year old making max money doesn't seem like a prudent move. Seems as the teams most often mentioned are Golden State, Boston, and both LA teams. If you were New Orleans, which of the following would you prefer as the centerpiece(s) of a deal?Curry and UdohRondo and GreenBynumBledsoe and Jordan

CP3 isn't going to sign a long term deal with 3 of those teams, so why would they pony up all that talent for a 1 year, 66 game rental? GS in particular would be insane to deal Curry for 66 games of CP3.

I find it hard to believe that Paul wont sign the 5/100 deal with any of those teams compared to a 4/74 anywhere else (or a 4/58 with the Knicks).

5/100 = $20M per4/74 = $18.5M perNot really much difference in terms of $ per year. And it's not like this is Paul's last deal - he'll get another max deal after this one. If it was all about the money, CP3 would stay in NO.

 

[boubucarow]

oof. Looking at the Raptors schedule, they have 5 games in 6 nights once and 5 games in 7 days 3 times. Great work NBA

Everybody has stretches like this in their schedule. Comes of squeezing 66 games into not enough weeks.

I'm sure they do. Gonna make for an awful season.

It'll be rugged. Young teams should benefit, teams that have to deal with non trivial injuries are going to be hit harder than usual as there won't be any recovery time and more games will be missed than usual.

They turned a shorter season into a minus for older teams. I assume most thought it would be in their favor.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Someone needs to tell ESPN that there is no such thing is back-to-back-to-back. If two things are back to back, the third thing would be front to front. That's why nobody ever used that phrase until someone made it up to describe sports things.

not if you stack them in a triangle shape.

 

[Bobcat10]

Woj confirming the Spurs amnestied RJeff.

One down. I don't think there are going to be as many as some think though.

 

[Kev4029]

5/100 = $20M per4/74 = $18.5M perNot really much difference in terms of $ per year. And it's not like this is Paul's last deal - he'll get another max deal after this one. If it was all about the money, CP3 would stay in NO.

His knees are pretty bulky, I wouldn't be surprised if this is his last big contract.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Someone needs to tell ESPN that there is no such thing is back-to-back-to-back. If two things are back to back, the third thing would be front to front. That's why nobody ever used that phrase until someone made it up to describe sports things.

not if you stack them in a triangle shape.

I considered this, but then if you removed one, you wouldn't describe the remaining two as back to back, would you? So that messes up the whole thing.Also, it's not just me. The Post beat reporter for the Wiz tweeted that his editors told him not to use the phrase this season.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

oof. Looking at the Raptors schedule, they have 5 games in 6 nights once and 5 games in 7 days 3 times. Great work NBA

Everybody has stretches like this in their schedule. Comes of squeezing 66 games into not enough weeks.

I'm sure they do. Gonna make for an awful season.

It'll be rugged. Young teams should benefit, teams that have to deal with non trivial injuries are going to be hit harder than usual as there won't be any recovery time and more games will be missed than usual.

I'm not too sure about that. Toronto is one of the youngest teams in the league and reading a Raptors blog, the guy estimates 28 practices this year. Couple that with shortened training camps and it doesn't look good. A team like the Lakers with a lot of vets who've played together for years should have a very large advantage. Guess there is +/- on both sides. Young legs vs Old legs. Lack of practice vs Veteran savy.

 

[the moops]

I can't imagine the Hornets taking someone like Gasol for Paul. It seems to make much more sense for them to focus on rebuilding and taking on a 32 year old making max money doesn't seem like a prudent move. Seems as the teams most often mentioned are Golden State, Boston, and both LA teams. If you were New Orleans, which of the following would you prefer as the centerpiece(s) of a deal?Curry and UdohRondo and GreenBynumBledsoe and Jordan

CP3 isn't going to sign a long term deal with 3 of those teams, so why would they pony up all that talent for a 1 year, 66 game rental? GS in particular would be insane to deal Curry for 66 games of CP3.

I find it hard to believe that Paul wont sign the 5/100 deal with any of those teams compared to a 4/74 anywhere else (or a 4/58 with the Knicks).

5/100 = $20M per4/74 = $18.5M perNot really much difference in terms of $ per year. And it's not like this is Paul's last deal - he'll get another max deal after this one. If it was all about the money, CP3 would stay in NO.

Why would he stay in NO when he can get the same money elsewhere?

 

[Gr00vus]

oof. Looking at the Raptors schedule, they have 5 games in 6 nights once and 5 games in 7 days 3 times. Great work NBA

Everybody has stretches like this in their schedule. Comes of squeezing 66 games into not enough weeks.

I'm sure they do. Gonna make for an awful season.

It'll be rugged. Young teams should benefit, teams that have to deal with non trivial injuries are going to be hit harder than usual as there won't be any recovery time and more games will be missed than usual.

I'm not too sure about that. Toronto is one of the youngest teams in the league and reading a Raptors blog, the guy estimates 28 practices this year. Couple that with shortened training camps and it doesn't look good. A team like the Lakers with a lot of vets who've played together for years should have a very large advantage. Guess there is +/- on both sides. Young legs vs Old legs. Lack of practice vs Veteran savy.

I think the recovery time will outweigh savvy. It's no help knowing what you should do if your body can't actually do it. And the Lakers are a bad example - at the very least they'll be learning a new system under a whole new coaching staff with no training camp + 5 game suspension for Bynum to start the year (he's missing time and he's not even injured yet -awesome), at worst they'll also be dealing with significant roster changes if they pull off one of these deals. I think the Lakers are going to struggle to get it together early, if not for the entire season.

 

[saintfool]

Woj confirming the Spurs amnestied RJeff.One down. I don't think there are going to be as many as some think though.

opschampagne:

 

[the moops]

Woj confirming the Spurs amnestied RJeff.One down. I don't think there are going to be as many as some think though.

opschampagne:

The Spurs are still over the cap even with Jefferson's contract off the books, right?What is the benefit?

 

[saintfool]

Woj confirming the Spurs amnestied RJeff.One down. I don't think there are going to be as many as some think though.

opschampagne:

The Spurs are still over the cap even with Jefferson's contract off the books, right?What is the benefit?

he's useless, for starters. keeping him on the bench just adds insult to injury.

 

[the moops]

Woj confirming the Spurs amnestied RJeff.One down. I don't think there are going to be as many as some think though.

opschampagne:

The Spurs are still over the cap even with Jefferson's contract off the books, right?What is the benefit?

he's useless, for starters. keeping him on the bench just adds insult to injury.

He shot 44% from three last year. He may suck in relation to his contract, but he is still better than 1/2 the players in the league.

 

[Premier]

The "hot" rumor down here is for the Magic to sign and trade JRich to the Warriors for Monte, amnesty Arenas and make a push for Battier or someone similar.

This would appease the Great and Angry Dwight. Allegedly.

Who really ####ing knows.

 

[Bobcat10]

Woj confirming the Spurs amnestied RJeff.One down. I don't think there are going to be as many as some think though.

opschampagne:

The Spurs are still over the cap even with Jefferson's contract off the books, right?What is the benefit?

he's useless, for starters. keeping him on the bench just adds insult to injury.

He shot 44% from three last year. He may suck in relation to his contract, but he is still better than 1/2 the players in the league.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AjfwRAOYt8G.DQy5fDVXSkm8vLYF?slug=aw-wojnarowski_richard_jefferson_spurs_nba_120711

The decision allows the Spurs to remove the three years and $30.5 million left on Jefferson’s contract from the team’s payroll for salary-cap and tax purposes. Jefferson will still be paid the $30.5 million.The Spurs are aggressively looking for a small forward, and removing Jefferson’s contract will allow them to spend the full $5 million midlevel exception for teams under the luxury-tax threshold. Spurs officials have met with Caron Butler(notes) and Josh Howard(notes).Butler has been the Spurs’ primary target, but team officials have been speaking with agents about a number of different options. Before visiting San Antonio, Butler preferred the Chicago Bulls over the Spurs – both of which could use the midlevel exception on him, league sources said. Among teams which can offer him a contract greater than the midlevel, Butler prefers the Los Angeles Clippers over the New Jersey Nets.After meeting with the Spurs, Butler tweeted: “Great visit. First class all the way.”The Spurs also can play rookie Kawhi Leonard at small forward.

 

[saintfool]

He shot 44% from three last year. He may suck in relation to his contract, but he is still better than 1/2 the players in the league.

you can't have a player on the team who doesn't fit the system and he clearly wasn't working. i'd rather have a player that can defend than shoot 44% from 3pt range. scoring was never the problem for SA over the past few years. defending and getting stops was. he wasn't a good defender for his position in the league and was especially sorry for the Spurs.:caseclosed:

 

[No. 16]

The "hot" rumor down here is for the Magic to sign and trade JRich to the Warriors for Monte, amnesty Arenas and make a push for Battier or someone similar. This would appease the Great and Angry Dwight. Allegedly. Who really ####ing knows.

Hahaha. GSW already made their choice between J-Rich and Monta when they traded J-Rich to the Bobcats. Why would they do this again?

 

[Premier]

The "hot" rumor down here is for the Magic to sign and trade JRich to the Warriors for Monte, amnesty Arenas and make a push for Battier or someone similar. This would appease the Great and Angry Dwight. Allegedly. Who really ####ing knows.

Hahaha. GSW already made their choice between J-Rich and Monta when they traded J-Rich to the Bobcats. Why would they do this again?

No idea. Not saying it'll happen, just read it on a few sites. Money?

 

[No. 16]

The "hot" rumor down here is for the Magic to sign and trade JRich to the Warriors for Monte, amnesty Arenas and make a push for Battier or someone similar. This would appease the Great and Angry Dwight. Allegedly. Who really ####ing knows.

Hahaha. GSW already made their choice between J-Rich and Monta when they traded J-Rich to the Bobcats. Why would they do this again?

No idea. Not saying it'll happen, just read it on a few sites. Money?

That's the point. If you have no idea of why either side would do the trade, it's probably BS speculation.

 

[Premier]

The "hot" rumor down here is for the Magic to sign and trade JRich to the Warriors for Monte, amnesty Arenas and make a push for Battier or someone similar. This would appease the Great and Angry Dwight. Allegedly. Who really ####ing knows.

Hahaha. GSW already made their choice between J-Rich and Monta when they traded J-Rich to the Bobcats. Why would they do this again?

No idea. Not saying it'll happen, just read it on a few sites. Money?

That's the point. If you have no idea of why either side would do the trade, it's probably BS speculation.

Aren't you the same guy posting stupid Warrior trade ideas all the time?

 

[No. 16]

The "hot" rumor down here is for the Magic to sign and trade JRich to the Warriors for Monte, amnesty Arenas and make a push for Battier or someone similar. This would appease the Great and Angry Dwight. Allegedly. Who really ####ing knows.

Hahaha. GSW already made their choice between J-Rich and Monta when they traded J-Rich to the Bobcats. Why would they do this again?

No idea. Not saying it'll happen, just read it on a few sites. Money?

That's the point. If you have no idea of why either side would do the trade, it's probably BS speculation.

Aren't you the same guy posting stupid Warrior trade ideas all the time?

???I usually give my take on trades that others have reported, but again I try to weed out the BS rumors and discuss the ones that actually make some sense.

 

[Premier]

The "hot" rumor down here is for the Magic to sign and trade JRich to the Warriors for Monte, amnesty Arenas and make a push for Battier or someone similar. This would appease the Great and Angry Dwight. Allegedly. Who really ####ing knows.

Hahaha. GSW already made their choice between J-Rich and Monta when they traded J-Rich to the Bobcats. Why would they do this again?

No idea. Not saying it'll happen, just read it on a few sites. Money?

That's the point. If you have no idea of why either side would do the trade, it's probably BS speculation.

Aren't you the same guy posting stupid Warrior trade ideas all the time?

???I usually give my take on trades that others have reported, but again I try to weed out the BS rumors and discuss the ones that actually make some sense.

Your last trade post was Dwight ####ing Howard for Monta Ellis, some guy named Wright and "filler". Nice work, Scoop.