*NBA THREAD* Abe will be missed (1 Viewer)

[No. 16]

Lopez has played up to his contract this year, IMO, but the worrisome part is he has shown he could play below it for sure. Just a matter of preference... offense vs. defense (Brooks vs. Hibbert). With a mid-level exception that's fine, but not for max (near max?) money. Drummound looks like a beast in the making. If Bogut ends up the next Yao Ming, I'll be disappointed the Dubs passed on Drummound but other wise I'm happy with Harrison Barnes. He may not be doing much, but you can just see that he's taking his lumps as a rookie and playing within the team. Mark Jackson needs to do a better job of trying to create some non-iso shots for Barnes. Aside from jack, he's one of the few players that can penetrate at will and the only one who can do that and finish above the rim. Despite, Klay's two game stretch of decent play I'd rather Harrison play with Curry/Jack over Klay. Klay makes too many brain farts and when his jumper isn't falling he's trying his best to imitate Mikeal Pietrus. Excited about the Dubs vs OKC game tonight. I still have the GSW as an underdog despite OKC playing on the 2nd end of a back to back.

 

[Moe.]

Excited about the Dubs vs OKC game tonight. I still have the GSW as an underdog despite OKC playing on the 2nd end of a back to back.

Should be a good one. The line is OKC -2 or -2.5 fwiw. I'm expecting the Warriors to win.

 

[biggamer3]

Lopez has played up to his contract this year, IMO, but the worrisome part is he has shown he could play below it for sure. Just a matter of preference... offense vs. defense (Brooks vs. Hibbert). With a mid-level exception that's fine, but not for max (near max?) money. Drummound looks like a beast in the making. If Bogut ends up the next Yao Ming, I'll be disappointed the Dubs passed on Drummound but other wise I'm happy with Harrison Barnes. He may not be doing much, but you can just see that he's taking his lumps as a rookie and playing within the team. Mark Jackson needs to do a better job of trying to create some non-iso shots for Barnes. Aside from jack, he's one of the few players that can penetrate at will and the only one who can do that and finish above the rim. Despite, Klay's two game stretch of decent play I'd rather Harrison play with Curry/Jack over Klay. Klay makes too many brain farts and when his jumper isn't falling he's trying his best to imitate Mikeal Pietrus. Excited about the Dubs vs OKC game tonight. I still have the GSW as an underdog despite OKC playing on the 2nd end of a back to back.

Drummond was just another example of a capable big getting passed up in the draft for god knows why. I was shocked in the past that Brook Lopez lasted until 10, Bynum went at 10 and now Drummond. Hasnt the league learned, it better to gamble on the 7 footers who have game than the Thomas Robinsons of the world

 

[Abraham]

Abraham and any other Rockets fan please chime in. What is the feeling with Lin's season so far? I wanted him to succeed more than most, but I am starting to think he might not be anything more than a 20 game a night backup. The games I have watched him besides for the recent Knicks game he has looked horrible out there. It looks like if Harden had a competent PG that this Rocket team could be very formidable

My guess is they are seeing if he or Beverly works better as a sixth man spark plug. Lin hasn't had a good game in weeks (none of them have) and he isn't suited to stand on the perimeter while harden does a pick and role.

 

[biggamer3]

Abraham and any other Rockets fan please chime in. What is the feeling with Lin's season so far? I wanted him to succeed more than most, but I am starting to think he might not be anything more than a 20 game a night backup. The games I have watched him besides for the recent Knicks game he has looked horrible out there. It looks like if Harden had a competent PG that this Rocket team could be very formidable

My guess is they are seeing if he or Beverly works better as a sixth man spark plug. Lin hasn't had a good game in weeks (none of them have) and he isn't suited to stand on the perimeter while harden does a pick and role.

exactly. Him and Harden dont mesh at all, Lin being used as a spot up shooter is a waste of everyones talents.

 

[No. 16]

Excited about the Dubs vs OKC game tonight. I still have the GSW as an underdog despite OKC playing on the 2nd end of a back to back.

Should be a good one. The line is OKC -2 or -2.5 fwiw. I'm expecting the Warriors to win.

Let's hope so. The Dubs (sans Bogut) match up better vs OKC than MEM, IMO. However, last time OKC and Dubs played Westbrook was nailing all his mid-range jumpers and when that happens it's pretty much lights out for everyone else.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Can someone who's actually watched an NBA game this year help me understand whether the Wizards are actually close to a .500 team with Wall or if this recent run is a mystifying fluke? TIA

 

[Kiddnets]

Kidd, Brooks has been great so far but Orlando did much better in the end imo. Vucevic is turning into a stuff before our eyes, Harkless is a far better prospect than Marshon and Afflolo is a solid starting nba wing. Considering how bad people thought the magic did (myself included) they ended up doing well for the Dwightmare

cool - I havent paid attention to Orl - so looks like the deal/non-deal worked out for both the Magic and Nets so far...sometimes the best deal is one you dont make. It would be interesting if the Lakers offered Howard for Lopez now if the Nets would do it or not.....

Just to add on to the Vucevic thing, if Bynum never plays a game for them they will be killing themselves for this trade. Vucevic has quietly put up 13 points and 13 rebounds a game over the last 26 games and he is only 22. He is shooting over 50% from the floor and he blocks 1 shot a game. Young capable centers are hard to find in the NBA.Not sure if you know, but I am a Nets fan now and as good as Brook is playing and as young as he still is, i would deal him for Howard in a nano second. I actually think Dwight fits in perfectly in this slow paced Nets team with lots of wing scorers. Nets would still deal for Howard dont think the rumors wont start up again real soon if Dwight really wants out of LA

good to see more Nets fans....its been a while since they have been relevant. I would probably do the Lopez for Howard deal but would want 100% clearance on his back....would LA take a pkg of Brook, Marshon, Humphries and picks though...

 

[TobiasFunke]

Can someone who's actually watched an NBA game this year help me understand whether the Wizards are actually close to a .500 team with Wall or if this recent run is a mystifying fluke? TIA

I think it's the former. I think if they had Wall and Nene active and relatively healthy all year they'd be a .400-.500 team.Wall + Nene + Beal hopefully adjusting to the league turns them into a completely different team. Not a great one, but not the miserable joke they were in November and December either. The recent run has shown me enough to think it's not a fluke, especially considering the quality of opponent and the two comfortable wins, one of them a blowout.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Lopez has played up to his contract this year, IMO, but the worrisome part is he has shown he could play below it for sure. Just a matter of preference... offense vs. defense (Brooks vs. Hibbert). With a mid-level exception that's fine, but not for max (near max?) money. Drummound looks like a beast in the making. If Bogut ends up the next Yao Ming, I'll be disappointed the Dubs passed on Drummound but other wise I'm happy with Harrison Barnes. He may not be doing much, but you can just see that he's taking his lumps as a rookie and playing within the team. Mark Jackson needs to do a better job of trying to create some non-iso shots for Barnes. Aside from jack, he's one of the few players that can penetrate at will and the only one who can do that and finish above the rim. Despite, Klay's two game stretch of decent play I'd rather Harrison play with Curry/Jack over Klay. Klay makes too many brain farts and when his jumper isn't falling he's trying his best to imitate Mikeal Pietrus. Excited about the Dubs vs OKC game tonight. I still have the GSW as an underdog despite OKC playing on the 2nd end of a back to back.

Drummond was just another example of a capable big getting passed up in the draft for god knows why. I was shocked in the past that Brook Lopez lasted until 10, Bynum went at 10 and now Drummond. Hasnt the league learned, it better to gamble on the 7 footers who have game than the Thomas Robinsons of the world

Because he's a terrible free throw shooter with questionable work ethic, and despite his immense physical gifts, struggled against the Big East?The potential's always been there, but it's never like he was a lock to be any good. With a better motor, he would've been a Top 3 pick.

 

[biggamer3]

Kidd, Brooks has been great so far but Orlando did much better in the end imo. Vucevic is turning into a stuff before our eyes, Harkless is a far better prospect than Marshon and Afflolo is a solid starting nba wing. Considering how bad people thought the magic did (myself included) they ended up doing well for the Dwightmare

cool - I havent paid attention to Orl - so looks like the deal/non-deal worked out for both the Magic and Nets so far...sometimes the best deal is one you dont make. It would be interesting if the Lakers offered Howard for Lopez now if the Nets would do it or not.....

Just to add on to the Vucevic thing, if Bynum never plays a game for them they will be killing themselves for this trade. Vucevic has quietly put up 13 points and 13 rebounds a game over the last 26 games and he is only 22. He is shooting over 50% from the floor and he blocks 1 shot a game. Young capable centers are hard to find in the NBA.Not sure if you know, but I am a Nets fan now and as good as Brook is playing and as young as he still is, i would deal him for Howard in a nano second. I actually think Dwight fits in perfectly in this slow paced Nets team with lots of wing scorers. Nets would still deal for Howard dont think the rumors wont start up again real soon if Dwight really wants out of LA

good to see more Nets fans....its been a while since they have been relevant. I would probably do the Lopez for Howard deal but would want 100% clearance on his back....would LA take a pkg of Brook, Marshon, Humphries and picks though...

to make this deal you have to take the risk Dwight gets his back healthy, its not like Lopez is immune to injury, out all last year and a bunch of games this year. LA wont trade Howard if they start winning and he is happy there; you just dont trade the best center in the NBA and 3 time DPOY unless you are forced too. But if the things go the way they are going and its right before Feb 21 and LA gets word that Dwight might bolt in the offseason and lose out on millions to start fresh elsewhere, the Nets probably have the best package for LA in Lopez and fillers. Though not sure how the cap works out but Atlanta could make a very appealing offer in Josh Smith for Howard and have Howard and Horford as the best front court in the NBA since Duncan and Robinson

 

[biggamer3]

Lopez has played up to his contract this year, IMO, but the worrisome part is he has shown he could play below it for sure. Just a matter of preference... offense vs. defense (Brooks vs. Hibbert). With a mid-level exception that's fine, but not for max (near max?) money. Drummound looks like a beast in the making. If Bogut ends up the next Yao Ming, I'll be disappointed the Dubs passed on Drummound but other wise I'm happy with Harrison Barnes. He may not be doing much, but you can just see that he's taking his lumps as a rookie and playing within the team. Mark Jackson needs to do a better job of trying to create some non-iso shots for Barnes. Aside from jack, he's one of the few players that can penetrate at will and the only one who can do that and finish above the rim. Despite, Klay's two game stretch of decent play I'd rather Harrison play with Curry/Jack over Klay. Klay makes too many brain farts and when his jumper isn't falling he's trying his best to imitate Mikeal Pietrus. Excited about the Dubs vs OKC game tonight. I still have the GSW as an underdog despite OKC playing on the 2nd end of a back to back.

Drummond was just another example of a capable big getting passed up in the draft for god knows why. I was shocked in the past that Brook Lopez lasted until 10, Bynum went at 10 and now Drummond. Hasnt the league learned, it better to gamble on the 7 footers who have game than the Thomas Robinsons of the world

Because he's a terrible free throw shooter with questionable work ethic, and despite his immense physical gifts, struggled against the Big East?The potential's always been there, but it's never like he was a lock to be any good. With a better motor, he would've been a Top 3 pick.

ok makes sense. I am not a big college B ball fan, but what I saw of Drummond i always thought he would make a good NBA pro. I know this sounds like Monday Morning QB, but i was shocked that Hibbert was drafted as late as he was as well.

 

[Zigg]

It appears that Clavin is a sellout. It's colours.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

It appears that Clavin is a sellout. It's colours.

I didn't want the yanks to get their panties in a wad.

 

[drummer]

Subtitle change request: Throw your colors DOWN, chango.

fixed

Jeebus, this board is sooooooo lillywhite. Ya gotta think a little less Godless Canuck and more Latino, with a bit of clave and Guanguanco.NOW put that rhythm in your head, try to dance to it which, given how lillywhite the FFA is, is like teaching a bunch of tim's how to walk and chew gum and the same time. It's all about the math fellas. You guys know about math. It's still in 4/4, and really doesn't have a whole lot more to it. It's just a basic rhythm that most cultures get. Well unless you're Canadian. Their gift to rhythm and culture is Rush. Ok, maybe this IS a lost cause. Here is gum. Chew gum.

 

[drummer]

Ok, I found something to help ya guys out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tpqTUItH0wKinda beats air drumming Fly By Night in a car, don't it?

 

[identikit]

I know a girl

Doubt it

 

[drummer]

I know Serious Business. It only takes a little effort, but it can make Skrubs change a subtitle faster than a Kobe 8:87.

 

[saintfool]

Can someone who's actually watched an NBA game this year help me understand whether the Wizards are actually close to a .500 team with Wall or if this recent run is a mystifying fluke? TIA

I think it's the former. I think if they had Wall and Nene active and relatively healthy all year they'd be a .400-.500 team.Wall + Nene + Beal hopefully adjusting to the league turns them into a completely different team. Not a great one, but not the miserable joke they were in November and December either. The recent run has shown me enough to think it's not a fluke, especially considering the quality of opponent and the two comfortable wins, one of them a blowout.

Having Flip Saunders not being your head coach helps a lot too.

 

[Gr00vus]

Ok, I found something to help ya guys out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tpqTUItH0wKinda beats air drumming Fly By Night in a car, don't it?

Yes, air bongos in a car are much more preferable.

 

[drummer]

Ok, I found something to help ya guys out:

Don't think bongos. Think more cowbell. Seriously.

 

[Moe.]

Can someone who's actually watched an NBA game this year help me understand whether the Wizards are actually close to a .500 team with Wall or if this recent run is a mystifying fluke? TIA

I think it's the former. I think if they had Wall and Nene active and relatively healthy all year they'd be a .400-.500 team.Wall + Nene + Beal hopefully adjusting to the league turns them into a completely different team. Not a great one, but not the miserable joke they were in November and December either. The recent run has shown me enough to think it's not a fluke, especially considering the quality of opponent and the two comfortable wins, one of them a blowout.

Having Flip Saunders not being your head coach helps a lot too.

I don't think Randy Wittman is much better.

 

[Kev4029]

Drummond was just another example of a capable big getting passed up in the draft for god knows why. I was shocked in the past that Brook Lopez lasted until 10, Bynum went at 10 and now Drummond. Hasnt the league learned, it better to gamble on the 7 footers who have game than the Thomas Robinsons of the world

What about all the complete misses like Darko, Rafael Arujo, Patrick O'Bryant, Shelden Williams, Mouhamed Sene, Spencer Hawes, Hasheem Thabeet, Enes Kanter? It seems like gambling on a center is about the most risky proposition in the NBA. When you draft a center, especially outside of the top 2 or 3, they are almost always incredibly unrefined and a huge risk.Gambling on center is the draft has proven to be a losing proposition for NBA teams.

 

[Gr00vus]

Ok, I found something to help ya guys out:

No thanks. Claves maybe, bass for sure, piano definitely, but never cowbell.

 

[Abraham]

The rockets have made it clear that they plan on pushing the ball and shooting threes is their offense. As such, Patterson and Morris have come along but not enough. Delfino has been as awesome as Lin has been disappointing. They need to stay away from josh smith and try to find a four that can shoot from deep. Of course everyone wants one of those these days.

 

[drummer]

Ok, I found something to help ya guys out:

Clave always. You don't know clave, you can't even play the bell.

 

[Premier]

I love how in all this horse####, Abe is still relentlessly pushing the Rockets propaganda.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Can someone who's actually watched an NBA game this year help me understand whether the Wizards are actually close to a .500 team with Wall or if this recent run is a mystifying fluke? TIA

I think it's the former. I think if they had Wall and Nene active and relatively healthy all year they'd be a .400-.500 team.Wall + Nene + Beal hopefully adjusting to the league turns them into a completely different team. Not a great one, but not the miserable joke they were in November and December either. The recent run has shown me enough to think it's not a fluke, especially considering the quality of opponent and the two comfortable wins, one of them a blowout.

Thanks Tobias. Had somehow missed this until I saw the standings today and they had nine wins. I thought that seemed like a lot more than the last time I looked, but I don't pay enough attention to be sure. Then I looked and saw they were 5-2 over the last seven and had no idea why. Amazing what a difference a guy can make.

 

[Abraham]

I love how in all this horse####, Abe is still relentlessly pushing the Rockets propaganda.

Not sure how it is propaganda to point out that Harden has been fantastic, Asik has been worth the money, and the rest of the team is wildly inconsistent.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

I love how in all this horse####, Abe is still relentlessly pushing the Rockets propaganda.

Not sure how it is propaganda to point out that Harden has been fantastic, Asik has been worth the money, and the rest of the team is wildly inconsistent.

Carlos Delfino being awesome = Propaganda

 

[biggamer3]

Drummond was just another example of a capable big getting passed up in the draft for god knows why. I was shocked in the past that Brook Lopez lasted until 10, Bynum went at 10 and now Drummond. Hasnt the league learned, it better to gamble on the 7 footers who have game than the Thomas Robinsons of the world

What about all the complete misses like Darko, Rafael Arujo, Patrick O'Bryant, Shelden Williams, Mouhamed Sene, Spencer Hawes, Hasheem Thabeet, Enes Kanter? It seems like gambling on a center is about the most risky proposition in the NBA. When you draft a center, especially outside of the top 2 or 3, they are almost always incredibly unrefined and a huge risk.Gambling on center is the draft has proven to be a losing proposition for NBA teams.

I hear you but the common denominator from your list was they were white or undersized centers or just void of any talent (Thabeet.)If i was a GM my team would be boasting a front court of Lopez, Hibbert, Drummond with Mozgov backign them up

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

I know a girl

Doubt it

 

[biggamer3]

I love how in all this horse####, Abe is still relentlessly pushing the Rockets propaganda.

Not sure how it is propaganda to point out that Harden has been fantastic, Asik has been worth the money, and the rest of the team is wildly inconsistent.

Harden trade save the Rockets franchise going forward. But this team has nothing outside of Harden. Asik is solid but nothing special on either end of the floor and a super rebounder. He is a rich mans Reggie Evans. Parsons is decent but not nearly a #2 player on a team. Rockets best bet is to tank real hard this year, hope Royce gets his head outta the gutter next year and draft a capable big next year or a real PG

 

[TobiasFunke]

Can someone who's actually watched an NBA game this year help me understand whether the Wizards are actually close to a .500 team with Wall or if this recent run is a mystifying fluke? TIA

I think it's the former. I think if they had Wall and Nene active and relatively healthy all year they'd be a .400-.500 team.Wall + Nene + Beal hopefully adjusting to the league turns them into a completely different team. Not a great one, but not the miserable joke they were in November and December either. The recent run has shown me enough to think it's not a fluke, especially considering the quality of opponent and the two comfortable wins, one of them a blowout.

Thanks Tobias. Had somehow missed this until I saw the standings today and they had nine wins. I thought that seemed like a lot more than the last time I looked, but I don't pay enough attention to be sure. Then I looked and saw they were 5-2 over the last seven and had no idea why. Amazing what a difference a guy can make.

The reason you missed it is probably because they've been on a west coast road trip. As with all things, blame the Pacific time zone.Wall's been helpful but it's been more than that. They upset the Thunder right before he came back in what was probably their best effort of the year. And Wall was terrible last night, but they won in Portland anyway. They actually space the floor on offense, which is new for this team. Beal has been a totally different guy; check out the month to month progression. They've been a decent defensive team all year, now the offense is coming around. By "coming around," of course, I mean it's not a joke. I'd be almost as surprised if they kept this up as I would be if they reverted to their November form.

 

[scoobus]

Drummond was just another example of a capable big getting passed up in the draft for god knows why. I was shocked in the past that Brook Lopez lasted until 10, Bynum went at 10 and now Drummond. Hasnt the league learned, it better to gamble on the 7 footers who have game than the Thomas Robinsons of the world

What about all the complete misses like Darko, Rafael Arujo, Patrick O'Bryant, Shelden Williams, Mouhamed Sene, Spencer Hawes, Hasheem Thabeet, Enes Kanter? It seems like gambling on a center is about the most risky proposition in the NBA. When you draft a center, especially outside of the top 2 or 3, they are almost always incredibly unrefined and a huge risk.Gambling on center is the draft has proven to be a losing proposition for NBA teams.

I don't think Kanter should be labeled a complete miss yet.

 

[biggamer3]

Might not be an official list, cant tell if this NBA TV dude is guessing or reportingRick Kamla ‏@NBATVRick West Reserves: 3FC: Duncan, Lee, Ibaka / 2BC: Westbrook, Harden / 2WC: Parker, Curry / Close-but-no-cigar: MEM bigs, Aldridge, JeffersonRick Kamla ‏@NBATVRick East Reserves: 3FC: Bosh, B.Lopez, Noah / 2BC: George, Holiday / 2WC: Boozer, Irving / Close-but-no-cigar: Chandler, Deng, MIL & BKN guards

 

[scoobus]

Drummond was just another example of a capable big getting passed up in the draft for god knows why. I was shocked in the past that Brook Lopez lasted until 10, Bynum went at 10 and now Drummond. Hasnt the league learned, it better to gamble on the 7 footers who have game than the Thomas Robinsons of the world

What about all the complete misses like Darko, Rafael Arujo, Patrick O'Bryant, Shelden Williams, Mouhamed Sene, Spencer Hawes, Hasheem Thabeet, Enes Kanter? It seems like gambling on a center is about the most risky proposition in the NBA. When you draft a center, especially outside of the top 2 or 3, they are almost always incredibly unrefined and a huge risk.Gambling on center is the draft has proven to be a losing proposition for NBA teams.

I hear you but the common denominator from your list was they were white or undersized centers or just void of any talent (Thabeet.)If i was a GM my team would be boasting a front court of Lopez, Hibbert, Drummond with Mozgov backign them up

Hard to call it a common denominator when you list 3 different things, one of which is subjective and only proven in hindsight. Also, neither O'Bryant or Sene are white or undersized.

 

[drummer]

I know a girl

Doubt it

This seems to be real popular shtick. Updates book..

Filed under ZOMG burns

Will make use of later in a Yahoo chat

 

[hxperson]

Drummond was just another example of a capable big getting passed up in the draft for god knows why. I was shocked in the past that Brook Lopez lasted until 10, Bynum went at 10 and now Drummond. Hasnt the league learned, it better to gamble on the 7 footers who have game than the Thomas Robinsons of the world

What about all the complete misses like Darko, Rafael Arujo, Patrick O'Bryant, Shelden Williams, Mouhamed Sene, Spencer Hawes, Hasheem Thabeet, Enes Kanter? It seems like gambling on a center is about the most risky proposition in the NBA. When you draft a center, especially outside of the top 2 or 3, they are almost always incredibly unrefined and a huge risk.Gambling on center is the draft has proven to be a losing proposition for NBA teams.

I hear you but the common denominator from your list was they were white or undersized centers or just void of any talent (Thabeet.)If i was a GM my team would be boasting a front court of Lopez, Hibbert, Drummond with Mozgov backign them up

Hard to call it a common denominator when you list 3 different things, one of which is subjective and only proven in hindsight. Also, neither O'Bryant or Sene are white or undersized.

Also, way to early to call Kanter a bust, imo

 

[Moe.]

Might not be an official list, cant tell if this NBA TV dude is guessing or reportingRick Kamla ‏@NBATVRick West Reserves: 3FC: Duncan, Lee, Ibaka / 2BC: Westbrook, Harden / 2WC: Parker, Curry / Close-but-no-cigar: MEM bigs, Aldridge, JeffersonRick Kamla ‏@NBATVRick East Reserves: 3FC: Bosh, B.Lopez, Noah / 2BC: George, Holiday / 2WC: Boozer, Irving / Close-but-no-cigar: Chandler, Deng, MIL & BKN guards

Surprised but happy to see Serge made it. Thought that spot would go to Gasol or Aldrige.Glad George made it too. Surprised David West isn't listed as a close-but-no-cigar guy in the East.edit: thought this was official. I don't think Serge will make it.

 

[biggamer3]

Drummond was just another example of a capable big getting passed up in the draft for god knows why. I was shocked in the past that Brook Lopez lasted until 10, Bynum went at 10 and now Drummond. Hasnt the league learned, it better to gamble on the 7 footers who have game than the Thomas Robinsons of the world

What about all the complete misses like Darko, Rafael Arujo, Patrick O'Bryant, Shelden Williams, Mouhamed Sene, Spencer Hawes, Hasheem Thabeet, Enes Kanter? It seems like gambling on a center is about the most risky proposition in the NBA. When you draft a center, especially outside of the top 2 or 3, they are almost always incredibly unrefined and a huge risk.Gambling on center is the draft has proven to be a losing proposition for NBA teams.

I hear you but the common denominator from your list was they were white or undersized centers or just void of any talent (Thabeet.)If i was a GM my team would be boasting a front court of Lopez, Hibbert, Drummond with Mozgov backign them up

Hard to call it a common denominator when you list 3 different things, one of which is subjective and only proven in hindsight. Also, neither O'Bryant or Sene are white or undersized.

I was being sarcastic but this Obryant and Sene peeps were drafted way back in 2006 at the #9 and 10 spots. Not exactly going to get studs in those picks usually.

 

[biggamer3]

Might not be an official list, cant tell if this NBA TV dude is guessing or reportingRick Kamla ‏@NBATVRick West Reserves: 3FC: Duncan, Lee, Ibaka / 2BC: Westbrook, Harden / 2WC: Parker, Curry / Close-but-no-cigar: MEM bigs, Aldridge, JeffersonRick Kamla ‏@NBATVRick East Reserves: 3FC: Bosh, B.Lopez, Noah / 2BC: George, Holiday / 2WC: Boozer, Irving / Close-but-no-cigar: Chandler, Deng, MIL & BKN guards

Surprised but happy to see Serge made it. Thought that spot would go to Gasol or Aldrige.Glad George made it too. Surprised David West isn't listed as a close-but-no-cigar guy in the East.

Its not a list, i think this moron was just guessing. No idea why someone who works for NBA TV would make a tweet like this and not say it was just his opinion

 

[scoobus]

Drummond was just another example of a capable big getting passed up in the draft for god knows why. I was shocked in the past that Brook Lopez lasted until 10, Bynum went at 10 and now Drummond. Hasnt the league learned, it better to gamble on the 7 footers who have game than the Thomas Robinsons of the world

What about all the complete misses like Darko, Rafael Arujo, Patrick O'Bryant, Shelden Williams, Mouhamed Sene, Spencer Hawes, Hasheem Thabeet, Enes Kanter? It seems like gambling on a center is about the most risky proposition in the NBA. When you draft a center, especially outside of the top 2 or 3, they are almost always incredibly unrefined and a huge risk.Gambling on center is the draft has proven to be a losing proposition for NBA teams.

I hear you but the common denominator from your list was they were white or undersized centers or just void of any talent (Thabeet.)If i was a GM my team would be boasting a front court of Lopez, Hibbert, Drummond with Mozgov backign them up

Hard to call it a common denominator when you list 3 different things, one of which is subjective and only proven in hindsight. Also, neither O'Bryant or Sene are white or undersized.

I was being sarcastic but this Obryant and Sene peeps were drafted way back in 2006 at the #9 and 10 spots. Not exactly going to get studs in those picks usually.

Lopez was picked 10th. Hibbert was picked 17th. Drummond was picked 9th.

 

[Ilov80s]

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<br>Seriously guys, the dude is going to completely derail this thread, if he hasn't already, if you keep egging him on.<br>

<br>Pretty sure that's his objective, and as a Laker fan, I don't blame him.  <br><br>On another topic - am I delusional or does Andre Drummond look like he has the potential to be as good, if not better than Dwight Howard?  The kid is a physical specimen (7'6" wingspan) and already has great upper body strength (esp. compared to Anthony Davis).  His athleticism and coordination are off the charts - he measured a 33' vertical at the combine and can play comfortably above the rim.  He's still terribly underdeveloped offensively, with very limited post moves and no jump shot, but every time I watch him, I'm extremely impressed by his handles.  His per 36 PER's are off the chart, btw - mainly because all he does is put back dunks. <br><br>I'm starting to think that, despite the monster rookie season Lillard is having, that Drummond will end up being the best player out of the 2012 draft.  Davis is also playing well and not a disappointment at all and, imo, has a more versatile game.  However, unlike Drummond, Davis desn't seem to have the bulk to bang inside and be the dominant defensive presence inside that I think Drummond will be - at least at this point anyway.  Lillard is great but I'm not sure how much better he gets from here.<br>

<br>I am a Pistons fan so I am bias, but he looks to be to the next Dwight Howard. Like Howard, his post game is really lacking, but he can out rebound anyone, plays physical, is unstoppable around the rim and is defensively good enough to impact any shot from <10 feet. <br><br>Also, he does more than putback dunks, he slams lobs in at a level only Blake can match and yesterday he stole the ball, dribbled full full court and dunked off the run from a step inside the free throw line. His offense is almost all dunks, but he is getting them from more that putbacks.<br><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUMp4c04-ms">Drummond last night</a><br>

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Simmons: You just came up with the perfect title for Jack McCallum's next D'Antoni book: A Certain Type of Stubbornness. Isn't it Mike D's job to figure out how to play his best players as much as possible? The Lakers have some pretty obvious strengths: They're bigger than everyone else, they're blessed with three high-IQ hoop guys (Gasol, Kobe and Nash), and it's pretty easy for them to score. Their weaknesses are also pretty obvious: They're a painfully slow team, it can be clumsy having two low-post guys, their transition defense is horrific, and they can't guard anyone on the perimeter.Guess what? If those are your weaknesses, you shouldn't be playing at the second-fastest pace in the league (which is what they're doing right now). The Lakers should be playing at such a slow pace, we should be having 'Nam-like flashbacks to Mike Fratello's excruciating Cavaliers teams. Instead, they swung the other way because I'M MIKE D'ANTONI AND THIS IS HOW I COACH BASKETBALL! It's seriously one of the dumbest things I've ever watched. I hate the Lakers and even I'm offended by this — purely as a basketball fan, it's insulting to watch good players being criminally misused like this.

Sounds familiar to me.

 

[Max Power]

How did I miss the Hornets changing their name to the Pelicans? Sounds like the offical announcement and logo will be released tomorrow. It also looks like the bobcats are leaning forward on becoming the hornets again.Can't say I care for the new team name too much.

 

[Abraham]

I think most people agreed pre-draft that in the right situation, Drummond could become the best player in the draft (including Davis). He is the classic case of why talents that can't be taught (Drummond, Tyrus Thomas, etc.) get people more excited than proven everymen like Psycho T. The latter can be a solid 9/5 guy for a decade and the other has a chance to be 20/12. And if you miss on the upside guy, you'll have a chance at another in the next year or two.

 

[TobiasFunke]

How did I miss the Hornets changing their name to the Pelicans? Sounds like the offical announcement and logo will be released tomorrow. It also looks like the bobcats are leaning forward on becoming the hornets again.Can't say I care for the new team name too much.

I like Pelicans. The whole "intimidating team name" thing seems kinda silly to me. The league's two biggest franchises are named after people who live around bodies of water and an ancient European ethnic group. Its NYC franchises are named after baggy men's pants from 100 years ago and the things that dangle harmlessly from the rim. Once everyone is familiar with them the names take on a life of their own.

 

[No. 16]

How did I miss the Hornets changing their name to the Pelicans? Sounds like the offical announcement and logo will be released tomorrow. It also looks like the bobcats are leaning forward on becoming the hornets again.Can't say I care for the new team name too much.

I like Pelicans. The whole "intimidating team name" thing seems kinda silly to me. The league's two biggest franchises are named after people who live around bodies of water and an ancient European ethnic group. Its NYC franchises are named after baggy men's pants from 100 years ago and the things that dangle harmlessly from the rim. Once everyone is familiar with them the names take on a life of their own.

Hopefully, they're not another red, white, and blue based color scheme.

 

[TobiasFunke]

How did I miss the Hornets changing their name to the Pelicans? Sounds like the offical announcement and logo will be released tomorrow. It also looks like the bobcats are leaning forward on becoming the hornets again.Can't say I care for the new team name too much.

I like Pelicans. The whole "intimidating team name" thing seems kinda silly to me. The league's two biggest franchises are named after people who live around bodies of water and an ancient European ethnic group. Its NYC franchises are named after baggy men's pants from 100 years ago and the things that dangle harmlessly from the rim. Once everyone is familiar with them the names take on a life of their own.

Hopefully, they're not another red, white, and blue based color scheme.

No matter what your mascot, I don't understand why any New Orleans sports team would stray from some variation on purple, green and gold. Gotta at least have gold as your main color, right?