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[Juxtatarot]

Rotoworld.com

The Nets are reportedly "going hard" after Josh Smith in trade talks, and the Bobcats and Rockets are also in the mix.According to ESPN's Chris Broussard, "While they've discussed a trade for Ben Gordon, getting Josh is a bigger priority." That's not exactly a ground-breaking revelation, especially with the Nets' obvious desire for a starting-caliber PF, but it suggests that Brooklyn feels they have a legitimate chance to deal for Smoove. Though intriguing, this is firmly in the 'rumor' stage.

BK is the perfect landing spot for Smith, they're willing to pay him and they have a legit post presence next to him.

I don't see what the Nets could offer that would entice the Hawks.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Anyone still think Lakers have a shot at the playoffs?

Yes.

I think they have to go about 20-10 to make it. Doesn't look easy. Too many spots where they stand a very good chance of losing: Two games against the Clips, a B2B game in Denver, a B2B game in ATL, a B2B game in Portland, and a B2B game in Phoenix. A couple games against GSW, a roadie to OKC, home games against Boston and Memphis. And then there games where they might be a favorite, but still stand a chance of losing: home to Dallas, home to Portland, home to ATL, even home to the Wizards isn't the automatic W it used to be.4-3's not a bad roadtrip, but they dug a pretty good hole for those first few weeks of January. If I had to guess I'd say they don't make it, but by no means is it a lock. Houston or Utah could easily fall apart, too.

Agree with all this. Recent L's to the Raptors and Suns are likely going to be the one's us Laker fans circle in a couple months if the Lakers don't make the playoffs.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Great 4th quarter by Isaiah Thomas. Lin couldn't keep up with him.

Only kings to score in the 4th were Thomas, salmons, and Francisco Garcia. Murderers row right there. Also noteworthy that the apparently lame duck kings drew 32,000 fans for their two home games this weekend. Sacramento is at least trying to make its case for the team in advance of the board of governors meeting.

I hate the Queens, but you fans deserve better. #### the Maloofs.

 

[Abraham]

Rotoworld.com

The Nets are reportedly "going hard" after Josh Smith in trade talks, and the Bobcats and Rockets are also in the mix.According to ESPN's Chris Broussard, "While they've discussed a trade for Ben Gordon, getting Josh is a bigger priority." That's not exactly a ground-breaking revelation, especially with the Nets' obvious desire for a starting-caliber PF, but it suggests that Brooklyn feels they have a legitimate chance to deal for Smoove. Though intriguing, this is firmly in the 'rumor' stage.

BK is the perfect landing spot for Smith, they're willing to pay him and they have a legit post presence next to him.

I don't see what the Nets could offer that would entice the Hawks.

Humprhies, I would imagine.And while I imagine the Rockets would prefer Smith for themselves, a rebounding Power Forward like Humpheries would be a welcome addition considering they have no offensive post presence. Patterson is coming along, but he is very inconsistent. Douglas, Jones, and Aldrich to AtlantaSmith to netsHumph to Houston.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Rotoworld.com

The Nets are reportedly "going hard" after Josh Smith in trade talks, and the Bobcats and Rockets are also in the mix.

According to ESPN's Chris Broussard, "While they've discussed a trade for Ben Gordon, getting Josh is a bigger priority." That's not exactly a ground-breaking revelation, especially with the Nets' obvious desire for a starting-caliber PF, but it suggests that Brooklyn feels they have a legitimate chance to deal for Smoove. Though intriguing, this is firmly in the 'rumor' stage.

BK is the perfect landing spot for Smith, they're willing to pay him and they have a legit post presence next to him.

I don't see what the Nets could offer that would entice the Hawks.

Humprhies, I would imagine.And while I imagine the Rockets would prefer Smith for themselves, a rebounding Power Forward like Humpheries would be a welcome addition considering they have no offensive post presence. Patterson is coming along, but he is very inconsistent.

Douglas, Jones, and Aldrich to Atlanta

Smith to nets

Humph to Houston.

Hump isn't going to fix that problem.

 

[Hang 10]

If the Lakers miss the playoffs is there any chance Dwight re-signs with LA? If they miss the playoffs, do Laker fans even want Dwight back??

 

[the moops]

I think they have to go about 20-10 to make it.

I doubt 44 wins gets them into the playoffs. Probably have to get to 46 wins, which is highly improbable at this point

 

[Abraham]

Rotoworld.com

The Nets are reportedly "going hard" after Josh Smith in trade talks, and the Bobcats and Rockets are also in the mix.

According to ESPN's Chris Broussard, "While they've discussed a trade for Ben Gordon, getting Josh is a bigger priority." That's not exactly a ground-breaking revelation, especially with the Nets' obvious desire for a starting-caliber PF, but it suggests that Brooklyn feels they have a legitimate chance to deal for Smoove. Though intriguing, this is firmly in the 'rumor' stage.

BK is the perfect landing spot for Smith, they're willing to pay him and they have a legit post presence next to him.

I don't see what the Nets could offer that would entice the Hawks.

Humprhies, I would imagine.And while I imagine the Rockets would prefer Smith for themselves, a rebounding Power Forward like Humpheries would be a welcome addition considering they have no offensive post presence. Patterson is coming along, but he is very inconsistent.

Douglas, Jones, and Aldrich to Atlanta

Smith to nets

Humph to Houston.

Hump isn't going to fix that problem.

Isn't he a plus defender and rebounder? He's been losing minutes since the season began so I can see why they want to trade him. Patterson and Morris (the current Houston PFs) are terrible rebounders. Part of that is that they spend a lot of time on offense standing at the 3 point line, but there is no excuse for a PF tandem (getting at least 90% of the minutes at the position) to be averaging 7.2 defensive rebounds per game.

 

[TobiasFunke]

I think they have to go about 20-10 to make it.

I doubt 44 wins gets them into the playoffs. Probably have to get to 46 wins, which is highly improbable at this point

I think 44 might get them Utah's spot. The Jazz are already overachieving (-0.7 point differential) and the schedule is not that generous. Maybe only 4 or so soft home games between now and the end of the season. Meanwhile, March looks pretty soft for the Lakers. Definitely not out of the question.

 

[Abraham]

I think they have to go about 20-10 to make it.

I doubt 44 wins gets them into the playoffs. Probably have to get to 46 wins, which is highly improbable at this point

I think 44 might get them Utah's spot. The Jazz are already overachieving (-0.7 point differential) and the schedule is not that generous. Maybe only 4 or so soft home games between now and the end of the season. Meanwhile, March looks pretty soft for the Lakers. Definitely not out of the question.

They are basically four games out of a spot. 20-10 would mean Houston and/or Utah would need to be .500 the rest of the way. I can't speak for Utah but Houston's record is a little deceiving. Not saying they are a lot better than 28-24 but it is worth noting they had a 7 game losing streak where they were still giving Douglas, cook, and Aldrich a lot of minutes and didn't have delfino and Patterson at full strength. Those losses count but they looked like a conpletely different team during that streak. I think the rockets will finish about 18-13

 

[TobiasFunke]

I think they have to go about 20-10 to make it.

I doubt 44 wins gets them into the playoffs. Probably have to get to 46 wins, which is highly improbable at this point

I think 44 might get them Utah's spot. The Jazz are already overachieving (-0.7 point differential) and the schedule is not that generous. Maybe only 4 or so soft home games between now and the end of the season. Meanwhile, March looks pretty soft for the Lakers. Definitely not out of the question.

They are basically four games out of a spot. 20-10 would mean Houston and/or Utah would need to be .500 the rest of the way. I can't speak for Utah but Houston's record is a little deceiving. Not saying they are a lot better than 28-24 but it is worth noting they had a 7 game losing streak where they were still giving Douglas, cook, and Aldrich a lot of minutes and didn't have delfino and Patterson at full strength. Those losses count but they looked like a conpletely different team during that streak. I think the rockets will finish about 18-13

Not sure about 18-13, but I do think the spot up for grab's is Utah's. Like I said just look at point differential. The Rockets are a quality team; their +3.0 is better than the Lakers'. Utah, not so much. Sure, health and remaining schedule play a big role in it too, but mostly I'm just not a believer in Utah. It does help the Lakers that there are two spots out there, though ... although it correspondingly hurts them that they have to pass Portland. There's a greater than zero chance that Portland will go on a run and grab any spot that opens up. Those two have two more head-to-heads, by the way.

 

[Moe.]

I think they have to go about 20-10 to make it.

I doubt 44 wins gets them into the playoffs. Probably have to get to 46 wins, which is highly improbable at this point

I think 44 might get them Utah's spot. The Jazz are already overachieving (-0.7 point differential) and the schedule is not that generous. Maybe only 4 or so soft home games between now and the end of the season. Meanwhile, March looks pretty soft for the Lakers. Definitely not out of the question.

They are basically four games out of a spot. 20-10 would mean Houston and/or Utah would need to be .500 the rest of the way. I can't speak for Utah but Houston's record is a little deceiving. Not saying they are a lot better than 28-24 but it is worth noting they had a 7 game losing streak where they were still giving Douglas, cook, and Aldrich a lot of minutes and didn't have delfino and Patterson at full strength. Those losses count but they looked like a conpletely different team during that streak. I think the rockets will finish about 18-13

Not sure about 18-13, but I do think the spot up for grab's is Utah's. Like I said just look at point differential. The Rockets are a quality team; their +3.0 is better than the Lakers'. Utah, not so much. Sure, health and remaining schedule play a big role in it too, but mostly I'm just not a believer in Utah. It does help the Lakers that there are two spots out there, though ... although it correspondingly hurts them that they have to pass Portland. There's a greater than zero chance that Portland will go on a run and grab any spot that opens up. Those two have two more head-to-heads, by the way.

If I was a Lakers fan I'd be more concerned about staying ahead of Dallas (currently tied with LAL in the loss column) than catching Portland. Portland's point differential is even worse than Utah's and I believe their remaining schedule is relatively tough.

 

[Abraham]

Agreed - I was a little surprised to see POrtland out of the top 8 when I looked at it the other day.

 

[TobiasFunke]

I think they have to go about 20-10 to make it.

I doubt 44 wins gets them into the playoffs. Probably have to get to 46 wins, which is highly improbable at this point

I think 44 might get them Utah's spot. The Jazz are already overachieving (-0.7 point differential) and the schedule is not that generous. Maybe only 4 or so soft home games between now and the end of the season. Meanwhile, March looks pretty soft for the Lakers. Definitely not out of the question.

They are basically four games out of a spot. 20-10 would mean Houston and/or Utah would need to be .500 the rest of the way. I can't speak for Utah but Houston's record is a little deceiving. Not saying they are a lot better than 28-24 but it is worth noting they had a 7 game losing streak where they were still giving Douglas, cook, and Aldrich a lot of minutes and didn't have delfino and Patterson at full strength. Those losses count but they looked like a conpletely different team during that streak. I think the rockets will finish about 18-13

Not sure about 18-13, but I do think the spot up for grab's is Utah's. Like I said just look at point differential. The Rockets are a quality team; their +3.0 is better than the Lakers'. Utah, not so much. Sure, health and remaining schedule play a big role in it too, but mostly I'm just not a believer in Utah. It does help the Lakers that there are two spots out there, though ... although it correspondingly hurts them that they have to pass Portland. There's a greater than zero chance that Portland will go on a run and grab any spot that opens up. Those two have two more head-to-heads, by the way.

If I was a Lakers fan I'd be more concerned about staying ahead of Dallas (currently tied with LAL in the loss column) than catching Portland.

Yeah there's that too. But this is all assuming they get to 44 wins or so. If they go 20-10 you assume teams tied with or behind them will be in their rear view. Doubt the Mavs are going 22-10 AND the Lakers are going 20-10, especially with two head-to-heads left between them.

 

[the moops]

Here are the Lakers next 10 games. Obviously nothing is definite, but the only "sure" wins are PHO, MINN, ATL, all at home. They are fortunate to get LAC, BOS, POR, all at home, but they could easily go 1-2 in those 3 games. The 4 away games, minus NO are "probable" losses.If they go .500 over these 10 games, that really puts them in a tough spot for the last 20 games, probably needing to go 15-5 or better to get in.

Tue, Feb 12, 2013			Phoenix Suns								Thu, Feb 14, 2013			Los Angeles Clippers								Wed, Feb 20, 2013			Boston Celtics								Fri, Feb 22, 2013			Portland Trail Blazers								Sun, Feb 24, 2013		@	Dallas Mavericks								Mon, Feb 25, 2013		@	Denver Nuggets								Thu, Feb 28, 2013			Minnesota Timberwolves								Sun, Mar 3, 2013			Atlanta Hawks		Tue, Mar 5, 2013		@	Oklahoma City Thunder								Wed, Mar 6, 2013		@	New Orleans Hornets

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Rotoworld.com

The Nets are reportedly "going hard" after Josh Smith in trade talks, and the Bobcats and Rockets are also in the mix.

According to ESPN's Chris Broussard, "While they've discussed a trade for Ben Gordon, getting Josh is a bigger priority." That's not exactly a ground-breaking revelation, especially with the Nets' obvious desire for a starting-caliber PF, but it suggests that Brooklyn feels they have a legitimate chance to deal for Smoove. Though intriguing, this is firmly in the 'rumor' stage.

BK is the perfect landing spot for Smith, they're willing to pay him and they have a legit post presence next to him.

I don't see what the Nets could offer that would entice the Hawks.

Humprhies, I would imagine.And while I imagine the Rockets would prefer Smith for themselves, a rebounding Power Forward like Humpheries would be a welcome addition considering they have no offensive post presence. Patterson is coming along, but he is very inconsistent.

Douglas, Jones, and Aldrich to Atlanta

Smith to nets

Humph to Houston.

Hump isn't going to fix that problem.

Isn't he a plus defender and rebounder? He's been losing minutes since the season began so I can see why they want to trade him. Patterson and Morris (the current Houston PFs) are terrible rebounders. Part of that is that they spend a lot of time on offense standing at the 3 point line, but there is no excuse for a PF tandem (getting at least 90% of the minutes at the position) to be averaging 7.2 defensive rebounds per game.

He's an excellent rebounder but I wouldn't call him a plus defender. He is undersized and provides nil for shot blocking / shot altering. And you specifically said 'offensive post presence'. Hump is a garbage man. He'll provide production but he is not a post player.

 

[Abraham]

And you specifically said 'offensive post presence'. Hump is a garbage man. He'll provide production but he is not a post player.

Thanks, I haven't seen him all that much. I guess my wishful thinking is about the Rockets having a second player next to ASik that can clog the lane and be a "big" body inside. Patterson and Morris have both exceeded my expectations this year, but neither is a bruising defender or rebounder on the block. Asik has been excellent inside, so he's able to minimize some of the ineffectiveness of the PFs. But it would still be useful to have a guy who can stay within 15' of the basket on both ends of the court.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

And you specifically said 'offensive post presence'. Hump is a garbage man. He'll provide production but he is not a post player.

Thanks, I haven't seen him all that much. I guess my wishful thinking is about the Rockets having a second player next to ASik that can clog the lane and be a "big" body inside. Patterson and Morris have both exceeded my expectations this year, but neither is a bruising defender or rebounder on the block. Asik has been excellent inside, so he's able to minimize some of the ineffectiveness of the PFs. But it would still be useful to have a guy who can stay within 15' of the basket on both ends of the court.

Not necessarily. Two bigs who can't score away from the basket will plug up the lane for Harden. Neither Asik nor Hump need to be guarded when they are more than 7 feet away from the basket.

 

[No. 16]

And you specifically said 'offensive post presence'. Hump is a garbage man. He'll provide production but he is not a post player.

Thanks, I haven't seen him all that much. I guess my wishful thinking is about the Rockets having a second player next to ASik that can clog the lane and be a "big" body inside. Patterson and Morris have both exceeded my expectations this year, but neither is a bruising defender or rebounder on the block. Asik has been excellent inside, so he's able to minimize some of the ineffectiveness of the PFs. But it would still be useful to have a guy who can stay within 15' of the basket on both ends of the court.

Not necessarily. Two bigs who can't score away from the basket will plug up the lane for Harden. Neither Asik nor Hump need to be guarded when they are more than 7 feet away from the basket.

An Asik and Hump combo down low would be so entertaining to watch in a, "it's so bad, I can't take my eyes off of it" kind of way.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

And you specifically said 'offensive post presence'. Hump is a garbage man. He'll provide production but he is not a post player.

Thanks, I haven't seen him all that much. I guess my wishful thinking is about the Rockets having a second player next to ASik that can clog the lane and be a "big" body inside. Patterson and Morris have both exceeded my expectations this year, but neither is a bruising defender or rebounder on the block. Asik has been excellent inside, so he's able to minimize some of the ineffectiveness of the PFs. But it would still be useful to have a guy who can stay within 15' of the basket on both ends of the court.

Not necessarily. Two bigs who can't score away from the basket will plug up the lane for Harden. Neither Asik nor Hump need to be guarded when they are more than 7 feet away from the basket.

An Asik and Hump combo down low would be so entertaining to watch in a, "it's so bad, I can't take my eyes off of it" kind of way.

it would be a sight to behold.I was a bit off in my '7 feet' from the basket thing. Need to reduce it to 3 feet. Hump 3' to 9': 30%Asik 3' to 9': 21%

 

[Abraham]

And you specifically said 'offensive post presence'. Hump is a garbage man. He'll provide production but he is not a post player.

Thanks, I haven't seen him all that much. I guess my wishful thinking is about the Rockets having a second player next to ASik that can clog the lane and be a "big" body inside. Patterson and Morris have both exceeded my expectations this year, but neither is a bruising defender or rebounder on the block. Asik has been excellent inside, so he's able to minimize some of the ineffectiveness of the PFs. But it would still be useful to have a guy who can stay within 15' of the basket on both ends of the court.

Not necessarily. Two bigs who can't score away from the basket will plug up the lane for Harden. Neither Asik nor Hump need to be guarded when they are more than 7 feet away from the basket.

Fair point. The Rockets offense relies on Harden and Lin driving and then either (1) Delfino, Parsons, PF-combo hitting threes or (2) Parsons being "in the groove" and cutting to the hoop. If either one of those (or both) is "off" than they have trouble scoring. If both are hitting then they have nights like last week when they put up 140 and still appear to have left points on the floor. That said, they don't really shut anyone down consistently. Lin has become a nice defender outside and Asik is all that was hoped inside, but that still leaves 3 other players with a chance to score. I was simply thinking having another guy to clog the lane on defense without getting in the way on offense would be a good thing. Josh Smith (minus his 15 foot jumpers) would be a great fit.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

And you specifically said 'offensive post presence'. Hump is a garbage man. He'll provide production but he is not a post player.

Thanks, I haven't seen him all that much. I guess my wishful thinking is about the Rockets having a second player next to ASik that can clog the lane and be a "big" body inside. Patterson and Morris have both exceeded my expectations this year, but neither is a bruising defender or rebounder on the block. Asik has been excellent inside, so he's able to minimize some of the ineffectiveness of the PFs. But it would still be useful to have a guy who can stay within 15' of the basket on both ends of the court.

Not necessarily. Two bigs who can't score away from the basket will plug up the lane for Harden. Neither Asik nor Hump need to be guarded when they are more than 7 feet away from the basket.

Fair point. The Rockets offense relies on Harden and Lin driving and then either (1) Delfino, Parsons, PF-combo hitting threes or (2) Parsons being "in the groove" and cutting to the hoop. If either one of those (or both) is "off" than they have trouble scoring. If both are hitting then they have nights like last week when they put up 140 and still appear to have left points on the floor. That said, they don't really shut anyone down consistently. Lin has become a nice defender outside and Asik is all that was hoped inside, but that still leaves 3 other players with a chance to score. I was simply thinking having another guy to clog the lane on defense without getting in the way on offense would be a good thing. Josh Smith (minus his 15 foot jumpers) would be a great fit.

Come on now... Its a pick your poison thing. There aren't many bigs who can defend the paint and step outside. If they add a typical PF, their offence is going to suffer while their defence may improve.

 

[Slapdash]

Lebrin has missed about four shots since new years. I'm only slightly exaggerating. Dude has only missed two shots today and has 26. Just missed a free thow, got the board and nailed a three.

Lebron is really great to watch right now, on a roll.

 

[No. 16]

Warriors Alternate Jersey....with sleeves.

I always wanted a yellow version of the Dubs current jerseys. Not exactly what I wanted, but looks cool and probably will get one if it fits nicely.

 

[saintfool]

Warriors Alternate Jersey....with sleeves.I always wanted a yellow version of the Dubs current jerseys. Not exactly what I wanted, but looks cool and probably will get one if it fits nicely.

looks cool but i'm not sure about it on the court.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Warriors Alternate Jersey....with sleeves.I always wanted a yellow version of the Dubs current jerseys. Not exactly what I wanted, but looks cool and probably will get one if it fits nicely.

Love it.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

From Stein' power rankings:

Rudy Gay has been needing lots of shots to get his points, but no one's complaining after the Raps halted Indy's 15-game home win streak AND convinced TNT's Kenny Smith to proclaim: "I believe in the Toronto Raptors more than the Lakers" when it comes to sneaking into the playoffs.

 

[Kev4029]

Warriors Alternate Jersey....with sleeves.I always wanted a yellow version of the Dubs current jerseys. Not exactly what I wanted, but looks cool and probably will get one if it fits nicely.

Pretty dope volleyball unis. Can't wait to see David Lee is those short spandex shorts that I went to the varsity girls volleyball games for in high school.

 

[TobiasFunke]

From Stein' power rankings:

Rudy Gay has been needing lots of shots to get his points, but no one's complaining after the Raps halted Indy's 15-game home win streak AND convinced TNT's Kenny Smith to proclaim: "I believe in the Toronto Raptors more than the Lakers" when it comes to sneaking into the playoffs.

#21 with a bullet. Raptors and Wiz are coming for the East. Look out, LeBron.

 

[Abraham]

And you specifically said 'offensive post presence'. Hump is a garbage man. He'll provide production but he is not a post player.

Thanks, I haven't seen him all that much. I guess my wishful thinking is about the Rockets having a second player next to ASik that can clog the lane and be a "big" body inside. Patterson and Morris have both exceeded my expectations this year, but neither is a bruising defender or rebounder on the block. Asik has been excellent inside, so he's able to minimize some of the ineffectiveness of the PFs. But it would still be useful to have a guy who can stay within 15' of the basket on both ends of the court.

Not necessarily. Two bigs who can't score away from the basket will plug up the lane for Harden. Neither Asik nor Hump need to be guarded when they are more than 7 feet away from the basket.

Fair point. The Rockets offense relies on Harden and Lin driving and then either (1) Delfino, Parsons, PF-combo hitting threes or (2) Parsons being "in the groove" and cutting to the hoop. If either one of those (or both) is "off" than they have trouble scoring. If both are hitting then they have nights like last week when they put up 140 and still appear to have left points on the floor. That said, they don't really shut anyone down consistently. Lin has become a nice defender outside and Asik is all that was hoped inside, but that still leaves 3 other players with a chance to score. I was simply thinking having another guy to clog the lane on defense without getting in the way on offense would be a good thing. Josh Smith (minus his 15 foot jumpers) would be a great fit.

Come on now... Its a pick your poison thing. There aren't many bigs who can defend the paint and step outside. If they add a typical PF, their offence is going to suffer while their defence may improve.

Having that flexibility would be nice. Games like last night are the perfect example of how they need some variety on D when things start to go against them.

 

[Balco]

Can someone explain to me how the Nets can afford to pay Josh Smith what he wants next season? And why does anyone think that the Hawks would be fine with Marshon Brooks in return???? Would the Hawks (or another team involved in a multiple team deal) want Gerald Wallace? (3 years at 10 mil per left on his deal). It just doesn't make any sense to me.The Kris Humphries for Ben Gordon rumored deal makes a lot more sense. They both make the same salary, and Gordon could really help the Nets, IMO.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Can someone explain to me how the Nets can afford to pay Josh Smith what he wants next season? And why does anyone think that the Hawks would be fine with Marshon Brooks in return???? Would the Hawks (or another team involved in a multiple team deal) want Gerald Wallace? (3 years at 10 mil per left on his deal). It just doesn't make any sense to me.The Kris Humphries for Ben Gordon rumored deal makes a lot more sense. They both make the same salary, and Gordon could really help the Nets, IMO.

You can resign your own FA regardless of your cap number. Having a billionaire Russian cutting the cheques makes the luxury tax irrelevant for them. ATL is probably more interested in clearing cap space than anything else. They don't want to take back any of the terrible contracts from the Nets which may put them out of the running for Howard this summer. No one is touching Wallace. I don't think there is much substance behind Smith to Nets unless there is a 3rd team involved sending picks, young players or expiring contracts to ATL.

 

[Dought Man]

Where did all the Melo haters go? Are they on timeout?

I don't think I qualify as a Melo hater, but he did seem to do an awful lot of ball hogging today, while the Clips seemed to share and distribute much better. I tried for a second to look up his stats briefly to see how that might look in the box score, but nba.com is impossible for me. If my company was responsible for that website I would be telling them to turn it off until they get it right.

When you put Carmelo Anthony in the search box on nba.com, Fab Melo is the first result. I wish I was kidding.Their mobile app is terrible too.

 

[Dought Man]

Where did all the Melo haters go? Are they on timeout?

I dont care how well he scores in the regular season. Can you really win playoff series with Melo as your #1 guy? They will run into a team who realizes they can just frustrate Melo and turn him into a jump shooter...and his team goes home in round 1 or 2. All those transition 3's go away come playoff time.I'm not sure a lot of other good players would really want to play with him either. He's the Dominique Wilkins of his generation.

 

[Abraham]

Where did all the Melo haters go? Are they on timeout?

I dont care how well he scores in the regular season. Can you really win playoff series with Melo as your #1 guy? They will run into a team who realizes they can just frustrate Melo and turn him into a jump shooter...and his team goes home in round 1 or 2. All those transition 3's go away come playoff time.I'm not sure a lot of other good players would really want to play with him either. He's the Dominique Wilkins of his generation.

That's outrageous. He's one of the top 10 players in te league. He'd be welcome on any team.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

This may be something that works to get Smith into Brooklyn and Hump out.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bbstpnk

 

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

I'm not sure a lot of other good players would really want to play with him either. He's the Dominique Wilkins of his generation.

Nice comp with Wilkins. Melo's a good scorer. Not winning a title with his one man game.

 

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

Boston bad loss at Charlotte. Next 9 of 12 on road too. Spurs minus Parker,Duncan,Ginobli,Jackson go into Chicago and blow out the Bulls. Impressive.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Boston bad loss at Charlotte. Next 9 of 12 on road too. Spurs minus Parker,Duncan,Ginobli,Jackson go into Chicago and blow out the Bulls. Impressive.

Another stern fine coming?

 

[the moops]

Where did all the Melo haters go? Are they on timeout?

I don't think I qualify as a Melo hater, but he did seem to do an awful lot of ball hogging today, while the Clips seemed to share and distribute much better. I tried for a second to look up his stats briefly to see how that might look in the box score, but nba.com is impossible for me. If my company was responsible for that website I would be telling them to turn it off until they get it right.

When you put Carmelo Anthony in the search box on nba.com, Fab Melo is the first result. I wish I was kidding.Their mobile app is terrible too.

I get so ####### mad when I go to their site. Like abnormally, outrageously mad.Went just now to watch highlights of a few games. They have ####### yesterday's scores on the front page. On the ####### front page. Jesus ####### Christ

 

[TobiasFunke]

Where did all the Melo haters go? Are they on timeout?

I dont care how well he scores in the regular season. Can you really win playoff series with Melo as your #1 guy? They will run into a team who realizes they can just frustrate Melo and turn him into a jump shooter...and his team goes home in round 1 or 2. All those transition 3's go away come playoff time.I'm not sure a lot of other good players would really want to play with him either. He's the Dominique Wilkins of his generation.

Unless they face the Heat you mean, since two weeks ago you told us the Heat would fall in Round 2 if they faced the Knicks.

 

[the moops]

Where did all the Melo haters go? Are they on timeout?

I dont care how well he scores in the regular season. Can you really win playoff series with Melo as your #1 guy? They will run into a team who realizes they can just frustrate Melo and turn him into a jump shooter...and his team goes home in round 1 or 2. All those transition 3's go away come playoff time.I'm not sure a lot of other good players would really want to play with him either. He's the Dominique Wilkins of his generation.

Unless they face the Heat you mean, since two weeks ago you told us the Heat would fall in Round 2 if they faced the Knicks.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Check out the +/- from the Celtics/Wizards Saturday night: link Same basic deal as the first Wiz game, only more exaggerated thanks to Seraphin.

Incompetence is the norm when talking about the Wiz, but I would think that the coaching staff and front office can at least read box scores. If you're a fantasy guy, now is a good time to make a move for Crawford and Seraphin. They should be playing 30+ very soon. Beal looks awful, by the way. Looked awful in preseason too. Starting to think everyone fell in love with the guy because the jump shot is so pretty that they don't bother to watch the ball and see if it goes in or not. It usually doesn't.

Update?

Latest update: That Tobias guy is an idiot. He has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Boston bad loss at Charlotte. Next 9 of 12 on road too. Spurs minus Parker,Duncan,Ginobli,Jackson go into Chicago and blow out the Bulls. Impressive.

Another stern fine coming?

He pretty much has too, doesn't he? I mean, Stern wouldn't want to come off as a giant hypocrite.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

de ColoGreenLeonardDiawSplitterAmazing.

 

[BassNBrew]

Boston bad loss at Charlotte. Next 9 of 12 on road too.

You can't contained Mullens, much less stop him.Of course Michael will trade him for a box of rocks with an expiring contract that's worthless to us anyway.

 

[the moops]

Boston bad loss at Charlotte. Next 9 of 12 on road too.

You can't contained Mullens, much less stop him.Of course Michael will trade him for a box of rocks with an expiring contract that's worthless to us anyway.

That is all he is worth. He had a ridiculous night, but he generally sucks. He is shooting 38% from the floor on the season. That is gross

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Boston bad loss at Charlotte. Next 9 of 12 on road too.

Spurs minus Parker,Duncan,Ginobli,Jackson go into Chicago and blow out the Bulls. Impressive.

And Barbosa done for the year. Only 3 guards left. Time for some d-league call ups. That little win streak could set the franchise back a couple years. If they had #### the bed since Rondo went down, it would have been easy for them to blow it up. Not so much now that they're basically locked into a playoff spot.

 

[Juxtatarot]

de ColoGreenLeonardDiawSplitterAmazing.

For whatever reasons, Bulls have not been a good team at home. Examples include home losses to the Hornets, Bobcats and Suns. They play with much more energy on the road.

 

[Balco]

Boston bad loss at Charlotte. Next 9 of 12 on road too.

Spurs minus Parker,Duncan,Ginobli,Jackson go into Chicago and blow out the Bulls. Impressive.

And Barbosa done for the year. Only 3 guards left. Time for some d-league call ups. That little win streak could set the franchise back a couple years. If they had #### the bed since Rondo went down, it would have been easy for them to blow it up. Not so much now that they're basically locked into a playoff spot.

I have a feeling Ben Gordon is going to be a Celtic.