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I think there's something to it if he was able to accept his limitations and be a 6th man type. It's not like he's completely without talent. Unfortunately for both Rudy and whatever team is unlucky enough to have him, I don't see that ever happening, and instead he'll keep dragging down units that should be far more efficient.
He's shooting 56% with the kings. It's obvious that now that he's free from the shackles of a terrible grizzlies team and playing with some legit talent that his game is going to the next level.I think there's something to it if he was able to accept his limitations and be a 6th man type. It's not like he's completely without talent. Unfortunately for both Rudy and whatever team is unlucky enough to have him, I don't see that ever happening, and instead he'll keep dragging down units that should be far more efficient.
He seemingly has a lot of talent. You can kind of see it in there amidst the forced jumpers, turnovers in the lane and the missed layups/dunks. But what good is that talent if he can't use it? I agree that if he accepted his limitations he could be a useful player... but that happens with about 1% of NBA players.I think there's something to it if he was able to accept his limitations and be a 6th man type. It's not like he's completely without talent. Unfortunately for both Rudy and whatever team is unlucky enough to have him, I don't see that ever happening, and instead he'll keep dragging down units that should be far more efficient.
Agreed. The first 10 games with Iggy seem so far away. That was some of the most beautiful and dominant basketball, I had watch in a long time. THAT team is a legitimate contender.
He came back way too early because he's Kobe and that's what he does. I expect that within a month or two, he'll be fine.
The fact that the Kings are averaging about 7-8 more ppg with Gay doesn't matter? Just assists?He seemingly has a lot of talent. You can kind of see it in there amidst the forced jumpers, turnovers in the lane and the missed layups/dunks. But what good is that talent if he can't use it? I agree that if he accepted his limitations he could be a useful player... but that happens with about 1% of NBA players.I think there's something to it if he was able to accept his limitations and be a 6th man type. It's not like he's completely without talent. Unfortunately for both Rudy and whatever team is unlucky enough to have him, I don't see that ever happening, and instead he'll keep dragging down units that should be far more efficient.
But, as Gunz says, who wouldn't want a guy who can create 20 of his own shots a game at a 40% clip? When a guy is giving you 1.09 PPS, you want him creating.
In SAC's 2 games with Gay, they've had their lowest and 5th lowest assists totals of the season.
In TOR's 4 games without Gay. they've had their two highest assist totals of the season, plus 2 more in the top 7.
Toronto averages 23 APG without Gay, 17 with.
Sacremento averages 21 APG without Gay, 14.5 with.
Offence killer.
Maybe he shouldn't have paid him?
"Jury's still out on Pujols"Maybe he shouldn't have paid him?
It is. Albert will bounce back this year. I'm counting on it!"Jury's still out on Pujols"Maybe he shouldn't have paid him?
-- timcrochet
Patience young grasshopper, patience.The fact that the Kings are averaging about 7-8 more ppg with Gay doesn't matter? Just assists?He seemingly has a lot of talent. You can kind of see it in there amidst the forced jumpers, turnovers in the lane and the missed layups/dunks. But what good is that talent if he can't use it? I agree that if he accepted his limitations he could be a useful player... but that happens with about 1% of NBA players.I think there's something to it if he was able to accept his limitations and be a 6th man type. It's not like he's completely without talent. Unfortunately for both Rudy and whatever team is unlucky enough to have him, I don't see that ever happening, and instead he'll keep dragging down units that should be far more efficient.
But, as Gunz says, who wouldn't want a guy who can create 20 of his own shots a game at a 40% clip? When a guy is giving you 1.09 PPS, you want him creating.
In SAC's 2 games with Gay, they've had their lowest and 5th lowest assists totals of the season.
In TOR's 4 games without Gay. they've had their two highest assist totals of the season, plus 2 more in the top 7.
Toronto averages 23 APG without Gay, 17 with.
Sacremento averages 21 APG without Gay, 14.5 with.
Offence killer.
Maybe so, but unfortunately the crappiness of the Raptors won't make the signing of Kobe for around $24 million per year for the next two years any less stupid.
No way man. Because the Lakers are the Lakers and the Raptors are the Raptors.
Absolutely right. Ujiri's a more valuable asset than most of the players in the league.
Pau Gasol gave you two rings- and by the way spared you a lifetime of hearing that Kobe was useless without Shaq- and Lakers fans boo him constantly. Interesting disparity. Do you all just irrationally hate Europeans or nerds or something?
Clock's ticking on that scoring record.Abraham said:
This thread is the bestest.
Except Michael Crabtree, who got hurt after and came back sooner than Kobe, and has looked pretty good in his first 3 games back.
He came back BECAUSE they were winning. Can you imagine if the Lakers were over ,500 at the all star break without Kobe? His ego couldn't handle that. Kobe only wants the Lakers to win when he is playing. He wants to be the reason they are winning. He said as much himself in an interview last week when he said "It's not like they were playing gangbusters before I came back." I am paraphrasing that last statement.Abraham said:
You should go just to be that guy.Have a buddy offering free seats 2 rows behind Lakers bench tonight in Memphis... considering going just to heckle Kobe. Prob not worth the effort as he'll likely screw it up enough on his own.
May just stay home to watch Pastner's Tigers get smoked by the Gators.
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You should go just to be that guy.Have a buddy offering free seats 2 rows behind Lakers bench tonight in Memphis... considering going just to heckle Kobe. Prob not worth the effort as he'll likely screw it up enough on his own.
May just stay home to watch Pastner's Tigers get smoked by the Gators.
The game is going to suck between two craptastic teams... heckling Kobe is pretty much the only reason to go through the hassle of heading downtown.
I hate that guy when I go to a baseball game. There are quite a bit of them. Mostly wearing an old jersey full of nacho cheese stains.You should go just to be that guy.Have a buddy offering free seats 2 rows behind Lakers bench tonight in Memphis... considering going just to heckle Kobe. Prob not worth the effort as he'll likely screw it up enough on his own.
May just stay home to watch Pastner's Tigers get smoked by the Gators.
Which is why I'll likely decline the tickets.
Kobe is making ~ $30M to play ~ 60 games, so he essentially makes $500k per game.
I wouldn't pass up those kind of seats no matter who was playing, unless you get these all the time.You should go just to be that guy.Have a buddy offering free seats 2 rows behind Lakers bench tonight in Memphis... considering going just to heckle Kobe. Prob not worth the effort as he'll likely screw it up enough on his own.
May just stay home to watch Pastner's Tigers get smoked by the Gators.
Which is why I'll likely decline the tickets.
Apparently no talks with the kings ever actually occurred (wouldn't have made sense anyway). Boston may be trying to put pressure on some other suitors to get a deal done soon.Stein reporting that rondo to Sacramento is dead but Boston has emerged with Philly as an Asik destination. The rockets would likely be interested in picks, Hawes, andr rondo in that equation.
problem is that you can't run with both Asik and Rondo. you're essentially running 3 on 5 every possession on offense.
