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[Cliff Clavin]

Uh, I asked this a page ago, but when are the signings done?

Signings start tomorrow.

 

[Premier]

I'm laughing thinking about Lebron walking into that meeting and seeing that Sprint hamster and those ugly kids with Riley.

 

[Bobcat10]

Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard 3m
Sources: Today's meeting will consist of Pat Riley, LeBron James and Rich Paul, James's agent.

 

[Bobcat10]

if you are labron why not just sign a one year deal no matter where you go

If he went to Cleveland and left again in 1 year he wouldn't survive it. Might not be an exaggeration.

This is still what I have a hard time wrapping my mind around. He probably can't leave CLE again, which means he's putting the rest of his career in the hands of Dan Gilbert and the Cleveland ####### Cavaliers.

I don't care how many assets they have at the moment. That's scary.

You got 2 years until Durant forms his own super team and before Davis is ready to wreck the league.

If you are going the long-term route, I don't see how you place your bet on the Cavs.

No offense, Cavs fans.

(Though, like a fat chick that hates another fat chick that lands a hot guy, I kind of hate any small market team that has some fortune shine on their ###)

No offense taken.

How does hitching to the Heat for a long term plan (maybe that needs to be defined) make more sense than the Cavs?

He's left once...I think that means he can/would leave again.

 

[Todem]

Why are people seemingly convinced Lebron makes his decision tonight? Seems to me like this is just a "show me the plan" type of meeting.

I agree there probably won't be a decision tonight, but everything seems pretty straightforward now. LeBron doesn't need to see the plan. The plan is Napier, McRoberts, and Granger.

You don't think Riley talked about these signings with Lebron, Wade and Bosh before they were announced?

Come on people.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Just saw this on my Twitter feed: The Cavs have the Heat's first round pick in 2015 (protected 1-10 2015 and 2016, unprotected 2017).

If LeBron leaves he likely ends up playing with the draft pick he was traded for ... and the quality of that player would be greatly enhanced by LeBron's departure.

Now I really want him to go to Cleveland.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

GB the Wolves actually seeming to slow-play this one right. I'm sure the offer (assuming there is one) is contingent on Lebron coming so its not officially on the table yet.

Celts still chomping at the bit, Phoenix still interested...but, if you get Wiggins plus stuff, that has to be the route you go.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Uh, I asked this a page ago, but when are the signings done?

Thought you were such an NBA fan you have several favorite teams?

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Why are people seemingly convinced Lebron makes his decision tonight? Seems to me like this is just a "show me the plan" type of meeting.

I agree there probably won't be a decision tonight, but everything seems pretty straightforward now. LeBron doesn't need to see the plan. The plan is Napier, McRoberts, and Granger.

You don't think Riley talked about these signings with Lebron, Wade and Bosh before they were announced?

Come on people.

And what do you think their reaction was?

 

[pollardsvision]

if you are labron why not just sign a one year deal no matter where you go

If he went to Cleveland and left again in 1 year he wouldn't survive it. Might not be an exaggeration.

This is still what I have a hard time wrapping my mind around. He probably can't leave CLE again, which means he's putting the rest of his career in the hands of Dan Gilbert and the Cleveland ####### Cavaliers.

I don't care how many assets they have at the moment. That's scary.

You got 2 years until Durant forms his own super team and before Davis is ready to wreck the league.

If you are going the long-term route, I don't see how you place your bet on the Cavs.

No offense, Cavs fans.

(Though, like a fat chick that hates another fat chick that lands a hot guy, I kind of hate any small market team that has some fortune shine on their ###)

No offense taken.

How does hitching to the Heat for a long term plan (maybe that needs to be defined) make more sense than the Cavs?

He's left once...I think that means he can/would leave again.

Oh, I don't think it makes sense to sign with MIA long-term. Or really even for a year.

I'm probably overestimating how difficult it would be for him to leave again, but it does feel like he'd catch so much more #### for leaving CLE again than if he left any other place.

I guess it would make sense to give CLE a 3 year with an opt out after 2. Nobody could whine too much if he left after that I guess. Well, no more than people whine about anything LeBron does.

 

[SWC]

hey curlyknight honest question if labron goes to lceveland will you be a celevand fan now

 

[wbaaoz]

I'm not sure this has been discussed (if it has forgive me because I couldn't find it):

What role does the Cavs coach have in the potential return of LBJ?

I mean this is a Euroleague coach who is an unknown commodity in the NBA. Does LBJ really want to play for a rookie coach?

Or may it not matter if the pieces are right

 

[SWC]

europe coaches are supposed to be offensive gurus so maybe you have pop part ii up there and labron is looking for a better o other than give it to labron and stand around until he does something good whcih has to wear on him take that to the bank brohans

 

[CurlyNight]

Uh, I asked this a page ago, but when are the signings done?

Thought you were such an NBA fan you have several favorite teams?

Favorite players. Not a team person per se. Whoever has the most players I like on the West and East gets my rooting. It's been Spurs and Heat for a few years now. It'll still be Spurs but not sure on the East yet. It doesn't depend all on Le B for me.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

if you are labron why not just sign a one year deal no matter where you go

If he went to Cleveland and left again in 1 year he wouldn't survive it. Might not be an exaggeration.

This is still what I have a hard time wrapping my mind around. He probably can't leave CLE again, which means he's putting the rest of his career in the hands of Dan Gilbert and the Cleveland ####### Cavaliers.

I don't care how many assets they have at the moment. That's scary.

You got 2 years until Durant forms his own super team and before Davis is ready to wreck the league.

If you are going the long-term route, I don't see how you place your bet on the Cavs.

No offense, Cavs fans.

(Though, like a fat chick that hates another fat chick that lands a hot guy, I kind of hate any small market team that has some fortune shine on their ###)

who is Davis?

 

[tommyGunZ]

Why are people seemingly convinced Lebron makes his decision tonight? Seems to me like this is just a "show me the plan" type of meeting.

I agree there probably won't be a decision tonight, but everything seems pretty straightforward now. LeBron doesn't need to see the plan. The plan is Napier, McRoberts, and Granger.

You don't think Riley talked about these signings with Lebron, Wade and Bosh before they were announced?

Come on people.

And what do you think their reaction was?

McBob = KEY TO CHAMPIONSHIPS, obviously.

 

[pollardsvision]

if you are labron why not just sign a one year deal no matter where you go

If he went to Cleveland and left again in 1 year he wouldn't survive it. Might not be an exaggeration.

This is still what I have a hard time wrapping my mind around. He probably can't leave CLE again, which means he's putting the rest of his career in the hands of Dan Gilbert and the Cleveland ####### Cavaliers.

I don't care how many assets they have at the moment. That's scary.

You got 2 years until Durant forms his own super team and before Davis is ready to wreck the league.

If you are going the long-term route, I don't see how you place your bet on the Cavs.

No offense, Cavs fans.

(Though, like a fat chick that hates another fat chick that lands a hot guy, I kind of hate any small market team that has some fortune shine on their ###)

who is Davis?

Anthony

 

[CurlyNight]

hey curlyknight honest question if labron goes to lceveland will you be a celevand fan now

I really don't know. Depends on where the other players on the East wind up.

 

[wbaaoz]

europe coaches are supposed to be offensive gurus so maybe you have pop part ii up there and labron is looking for a better o other than give it to labron and stand around until he does something good whcih has to wear on him take that to the bank brohans

I agree that is the preconceived idea of Euro league coaches. But that's still a big risk to take on a rookie coach for someone who is in a championship or bust mode.

 

[Todem]

if you are labron why not just sign a one year deal no matter where you go

If he went to Cleveland and left again in 1 year he wouldn't survive it. Might not be an exaggeration.

This is still what I have a hard time wrapping my mind around. He probably can't leave CLE again, which means he's putting the rest of his career in the hands of Dan Gilbert and the Cleveland ####### Cavaliers.

I don't care how many assets they have at the moment. That's scary.

You got 2 years until Durant forms his own super team and before Davis is ready to wreck the league.

If you are going the long-term route, I don't see how you place your bet on the Cavs.

No offense, Cavs fans.

(Though, like a fat chick that hates another fat chick that lands a hot guy, I kind of hate any small market team that has some fortune shine on their ###)

No offense taken.

How does hitching to the Heat for a long term plan (maybe that needs to be defined) make more sense than the Cavs?

He's left once...I think that means he can/would leave again.

Who the heck is runnnig the Cavs. It's not Pat Riley. Who owns the Cav's? Oh right Dan Gilbert who charred and destroyed the bridge.

No offense but that franchise is run like a fast food joint while Miami operates like a fine steak house. Riley delivered on his promise of rings. He delivered on getting the pieces needed around his 3 star players to win. And you know laugh all you want about McRoberts, but that was a super solid acquisition and only a piece of the puzzle around the core three. Riley get's it done. He is a fantastic NBA Executive. Lebron has considerably more confidence in his ability along with Bosh and Wade and Pat's and Spo's guidance than a complete unknown in Cleveland. It is an unknown. You have no statistical fact on your squad other than Kyrie Irving. The hope and dreams on lotto picks can go bad as history has shown over and over and over.

The East is weak enough for The Heat to again "get away" as many think with minimum vet's and other teams castaways because Riley knows how to pick the right vet's and reclamation projects for the most part (Oden and Beasly failed but Lewis and Birdman were hits), and Spo knows exactly how to plug them in around his 3 star players. Everyone's argument is Wade is not like he used to be. Same thing was said in the two title years too. Oh wade is breaking down, he is breaking down. Yeah he broke down in the second of two titles playing on one leg basically and having his knee drained every other day...but they still won it. This year they ran into a better team. Nothing is wrong with the Heat. Winning titles is very hard. You don't win them every year. But they sure as hell will be playing and contending for them the next 2-3 years if all three come back (which they will). Riley will plug holes each off-season as usual and hopefully Shabaaz develops by year two into a solid PG. For two players in their prime (Lebron and Bosh) to walk away from a team that has been in the Finals 4 straight years would be IMO the most shocking thing in NBA history. Seriously. It would be just dumbfounding. Miami is a first class franchise. One of the best over the last decade. Cleveland? Bro home is so overrated right now it is killing me LOL. Miami is Lebron's home and has been his office for the last 4 years...the light on for ya big fella. Come hand your hat here for 3-4 more years again and win another ring or two.

Again no offense and with all due respect.

 

[stbugs]

Just saw this on my Twitter feed: The Cavs have the Heat's first round pick in 2015 (protected 1-10 2015 and 2016, unprotected 2017).

If LeBron leaves he likely ends up playing with the draft pick he was traded for ... and the quality of that player would be greatly enhanced by LeBron's departure.

Now I really want him to go to Cleveland.

LOL, that is pretty cool. If Bosh leaves, then LeBron would potentially improve his team's 1st round pick by leaving Miami. I like that angle as well. I am thinking Cleveland as well now in terms of enjoying where he goes.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Probballdraft: It appears that LeBron & Rich Paul made the request to save the Heat from making a pitch, last-ditch plea.

 

[Premier]

Todem going for the prestigious LHUCKS Memorial Homer of the Year in here.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

europe coaches are supposed to be offensive gurus so maybe you have pop part ii up there and labron is looking for a better o other than give it to labron and stand around until he does something good whcih has to wear on him take that to the bank brohans

I agree that is the preconceived idea of Euro league coaches. But that's still a big risk to take on a rookie coach for someone who is in a championship or bust mode.

Worked ok in miami

 

[Abraham]

Todem seems like some worry is setting in. I really don't think he's leaving either, but i wouldn't want to be a heater at the moment.

 

[Todem]

Why are people seemingly convinced Lebron makes his decision tonight? Seems to me like this is just a "show me the plan" type of meeting.

I agree there probably won't be a decision tonight, but everything seems pretty straightforward now. LeBron doesn't need to see the plan. The plan is Napier, McRoberts, and Granger.

You don't think Riley talked about these signings with Lebron, Wade and Bosh before they were announced?

Come on people.

And what do you think their reaction was?

I am sure they were fine with it. They know they are not getting any sexy free agent's!! They are the core. Everyone else is a role player not a prime player. It;s all about those three and fill in the blanks with able role players. McRoberts will fit right in really well. Granger is 2MM risk so very much worth the risk for a 3 & D player if he rounds into form 2 years removed from his injuries. I believe it was a risk-less signing. He won't be asked to do more than provide 15-20 minutes of defense and hit his threes. Rashard Lewis was washed up but lit it up in the post season this past year. Why not Granger? Really why not?

 

[sporthenry]

I'm not sure this has been discussed (if it has forgive me because I couldn't find it):

What role does the Cavs coach have in the potential return of LBJ?

I mean this is a Euroleague coach who is an unknown commodity in the NBA. Does LBJ really want to play for a rookie coach?

Or may it not matter if the pieces are right

Well Spo was somewhat of an unknown commodity. And he isn't really a rookie coach. Sure he might not have coached in the NBA but I'd take him over Fisher, Kidd, or Kerr who are actually rookie coaches. And it beats Mike Brown.

I'm sure it'll be a learning curve but he'll probably bring some new tweaks that could help.

 

[Todem]

Why are people seemingly convinced Lebron makes his decision tonight? Seems to me like this is just a "show me the plan" type of meeting.

I agree there probably won't be a decision tonight, but everything seems pretty straightforward now. LeBron doesn't need to see the plan. The plan is Napier, McRoberts, and Granger.

You don't think Riley talked about these signings with Lebron, Wade and Bosh before they were announced?

Come on people.

And what do you think their reaction was?

McBob = KEY TO CHAMPIONSHIPS, obviously.

No that would be Lebron Bosh and Wade.

You are ridiculous. Everyone all of sudden thinks the Heat is garbage. Too old. Whatever. See ya in the ECF and Finals again next year.

Lakers?

NOT!!!!

 

[NutterButter]

Were Lewis and Birdman hits or did the Heat just not have anyone else on the bench?

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Todem going for the prestigious LHUCKS Memorial Homer of the Year in here.

:applause:

 

[Todem]

Todem going for the prestigious LHUCKS Memorial Homer of the Year in here.

Who was LHucks a homer of out of curiosity? (can't believe I am in the same sentence with him...oh boy).

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Probasketballdraft ‏@Probballdraft 7m

Around 6:00 p.m. (EST) start checking http://lebronjames.com as the news of the LeBron's choice should be announced.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Todem going for the prestigious LHUCKS Memorial Homer of the Year in here.

Who was LHucks a homer of out of curiosity? (can't believe I am in the same sentence with him...oh boy).

Arizona/Pac10

 

[Bobcat10]

Why are people seemingly convinced Lebron makes his decision tonight? Seems to me like this is just a "show me the plan" type of meeting.

I agree there probably won't be a decision tonight, but everything seems pretty straightforward now. LeBron doesn't need to see the plan. The plan is Napier, McRoberts, and Granger.

You don't think Riley talked about these signings with Lebron, Wade and Bosh before they were announced?

Come on people.

And what do you think their reaction was?

I am sure they were fine with it. They know they are not getting any sexy free agent's!! They are the core. Everyone else is a role player not a prime player. It;s all about those three and fill in the blanks with able role players. McRoberts will fit right in really well. Granger is 2MM risk so very much worth the risk for a 3 & D player if he rounds into form 2 years removed from his injuries. I believe it was a risk-less signing. He won't be asked to do more than provide 15-20 minutes of defense and hit his threes. Rashard Lewis was washed up but lit it up in the post season this past year. Why not Granger? Really why not?

Sounds like moves the Cavs made when they had Lebron. The problem was they were not gifted with the Big 3 at the start. The situations reek of each other.

 

[sporthenry]

Why are people seemingly convinced Lebron makes his decision tonight? Seems to me like this is just a "show me the plan" type of meeting.

I agree there probably won't be a decision tonight, but everything seems pretty straightforward now. LeBron doesn't need to see the plan. The plan is Napier, McRoberts, and Granger.

You don't think Riley talked about these signings with Lebron, Wade and Bosh before they were announced?

Come on people.

And what do you think their reaction was?

McBob = KEY TO CHAMPIONSHIPS, obviously.

No that would be Lebron Bosh and Wade.

You are ridiculous. Everyone all of sudden thinks the Heat is garbage. Too old. Whatever. See ya in the ECF and Finals again next year.

Lakers?

NOT!!!!

Not garbage. But have fun watching the Spurs or the Thunder on stage again if that is the case. Only hope is Duncan somehow falls off harder than Wade but at that point, OKC would be more than happy to step in.

 

[Premier]

PREVIOUS WINNERS:

2006 - LHUCKS

2007 - LHUCKS

2008 - LHUCKS

2009 - LHUCKS

2010 - LHUCKS

2011 - LHUCKS

2012 - shadyrdr

2013 - some shark pool knob

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

if you are labron why not just sign a one year deal no matter where you go

If he went to Cleveland and left again in 1 year he wouldn't survive it. Might not be an exaggeration.

This is still what I have a hard time wrapping my mind around. He probably can't leave CLE again, which means he's putting the rest of his career in the hands of Dan Gilbert and the Cleveland ####### Cavaliers.

I don't care how many assets they have at the moment. That's scary.

You got 2 years until Durant forms his own super team and before Davis is ready to wreck the league.

If you are going the long-term route, I don't see how you place your bet on the Cavs.

No offense, Cavs fans.

(Though, like a fat chick that hates another fat chick that lands a hot guy, I kind of hate any small market team that has some fortune shine on their ###)

No offense taken.

How does hitching to the Heat for a long term plan (maybe that needs to be defined) make more sense than the Cavs?

He's left once...I think that means he can/would leave again.

Who the heck is runnnig the Cavs. It's not Pat Riley. Who owns the Cav's? Oh right Dan Gilbert who charred and destroyed the bridge.

No offense but that franchise is run like a fast food joint while Miami operates like a fine steak house. Riley delivered on his promise of rings. He delivered on getting the pieces needed around his 3 star players to win. And you know laugh all you want about McRoberts, but that was a super solid acquisition and only a piece of the puzzle around the core three. Riley get's it done. He is a fantastic NBA Executive. Lebron has considerably more confidence in his ability along with Bosh and Wade and Pat's and Spo's guidance than a complete unknown in Cleveland. It is an unknown. You have no statistical fact on your squad other than Kyrie Irving. The hope and dreams on lotto picks can go bad as history has shown over and over and over.

The East is weak enough for The Heat to again "get away" as many think with minimum vet's and other teams castaways because Riley knows how to pick the right vet's and reclamation projects for the most part (Oden and Beasly failed but Lewis and Birdman were hits), and Spo knows exactly how to plug them in around his 3 star players. Everyone's argument is Wade is not like he used to be. Same thing was said in the two title years too. Oh wade is breaking down, he is breaking down. Yeah he broke down in the second of two titles playing on one leg basically and having his knee drained every other day...but they still won it. This year they ran into a better team. Nothing is wrong with the Heat. Winning titles is very hard. You don't win them every year. But they sure as hell will be playing and contending for them the next 2-3 years if all three come back (which they will). Riley will plug holes each off-season as usual and hopefully Shabaaz develops by year two into a solid PG. For two players in their prime (Lebron and Bosh) to walk away from a team that has been in the Finals 4 straight years would be IMO the most shocking thing in NBA history. Seriously. It would be just dumbfounding. Miami is a first class franchise. One of the best over the last decade. Cleveland? Bro home is so overrated right now it is killing me LOL. Miami is Lebron's home and has been his office for the last 4 years...the light on for ya big fella. Come hand your hat here for 3-4 more years again and win another ring or two.

Again no offense and with all due respect.

LOL

THE HEAT WAY!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111

please I could coach and run that team if the big3 just wanted to show up for me.

Sigh

 

[Good Posting Judge]

My sources are telling me that Lebron will spin a roulette wheel: Red = Miami, Black = Cleveland, 0 or 00 and he sits out a year and does it all over again next year.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

PREVIOUS WINNERS:

2006 - LHUCKS

2007 - LHUCKS

2008 - LHUCKS

2009 - LHUCKS

2010 - LHUCKS

2011 - LHUCKS

2012 - shadyrdr

2013 - some shark pool knob I'm the scientist

 

[Premier]

that's actually the guy I was trying to think of CQ. Couldn't come up with his name.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

PREVIOUS WINNERS:

2006 - LHUCKS

2007 - LHUCKS

2008 - LHUCKS

2009 - LHUCKS

2010 - LHUCKS

2011 - LHUCKS

2012 - shadyrdr

2013 - some shark pool knob

Also a new candidate from the MOP Invitational. Thinking 3 seed although his meltdown if LeBron leaves could snag him a 1.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

My sources are telling me that Lebron will spin a roulette wheel: Red = Miami, Black = Cleveland, 0 or 00 and he sits out a year and does it all over again next year.

I'm betting on baseball.

 

[Todem]

Todem seems like some worry is setting in. I really don't think he's leaving either, but i wouldn't want to be a heater at the moment.

Honestly no I am not worried. It's the waiting, and reading of all the blogs and rumors and tweet's blah blah blah...I should know better because all my common sense is telling me they are all coming back no doubt's in my mind. But I would be shocked as hell if he did leave. I really would. The Heat has given him everything he wanted from day one. And he (along with Wade and Bosh) have delivered as well.

It has been a wonderful union and I got to tell ya a lot of posters seems to laugh at my talk about family (and some affectionately mock it I get it) and "The Heat Way". But I know several people who work for the team (including the comptroller who is a friend) and it really is a family culture that Riley and Arison have built and instilled. It is very tight and very real. I am talking not just about the players I am talking about the ticket ushers, the ball boys, the assistants. It's really a great franchise in that regard. Highly and fiercely loyal. I mean I have known the same usher in my section since back when we sat in the old Miami Arena we are now talking 26 years and counting. We used to have 2nd row seats (courtside to boot) and when the new arena was built of course they jacked up the prices big time so we moved back 8 rows and behind the basket and now of course it's a freaking beauty contest there. LOL my goodness though it is nice to people watch these days.

I hope it stays together because as a lifelong fan the ride has been the best of my sports life so far. Other than game 7 for The Marlins in 1997 being able to experience this has bee a joy as a fan. I really hope this casual Heat fans realize this may never ever happen again in their lives. Seeing a team achieve this level of excellence.

Again if it all blows up...it's the not the first time. I went through 3 blow ups already as a real ran of this team. So I will wish them well.

Steve Smith, Glen Rice, Seikley

Hardaway, Alonzo and Mashburn

Shaq, and Wade

So I hope this keeps going for 3 more years. That's all I ask.

99.9999999% now.

 

[Mario Kart]

The press conference with Riley is actually LeBron trying to convince Riley to coach him in Cleveland. LeBron is trying to convince Riley to leave and not Riley trying to convince LeBron to stay.

 

[Premier]

and it really is a family culture that Riley and Arison have built and instilled. It is very tight and very real. I am talking not just about the players I am talking about the ticket ushers,

Didn't they ####can all the ticket salesman after they brought Lebron in and sold out in 2010?

 

[got_nugs]

I think LeBron would need to meet with Gilbert, Blatt before signing on to play with Cleveland. Without a public apology from Gilbert, i'd have to stand and clap for LeBron being better at forgiveness than he is at basketball.

One thing for sure, Miami did not intend to be in this position after beating Indiana in the ECF. For the sake of discussion, if the A/C doesn't go off, Miami somehow wins game 1/2, loses 3-6 and loses the series 4-2 or loses 4-1 in a series of competitive games....are we still in this same position?

 

[Captain Quinoa]

game 7 for The Marlins in 1997

Ok now you're looking for a fight.

F'n Joe Table

 

[Premier]

Lebron you won't believe how quick Sprint's LTE is on this Framily plan

 

[Todem]

if you are labron why not just sign a one year deal no matter where you go

If he went to Cleveland and left again in 1 year he wouldn't survive it. Might not be an exaggeration.

This is still what I have a hard time wrapping my mind around. He probably can't leave CLE again, which means he's putting the rest of his career in the hands of Dan Gilbert and the Cleveland ####### Cavaliers.

I don't care how many assets they have at the moment. That's scary.

You got 2 years until Durant forms his own super team and before Davis is ready to wreck the league.

If you are going the long-term route, I don't see how you place your bet on the Cavs.

No offense, Cavs fans.

(Though, like a fat chick that hates another fat chick that lands a hot guy, I kind of hate any small market team that has some fortune shine on their ###)

No offense taken.

How does hitching to the Heat for a long term plan (maybe that needs to be defined) make more sense than the Cavs?

He's left once...I think that means he can/would leave again.

Who the heck is runnnig the Cavs. It's not Pat Riley. Who owns the Cav's? Oh right Dan Gilbert who charred and destroyed the bridge.

No offense but that franchise is run like a fast food joint while Miami operates like a fine steak house. Riley delivered on his promise of rings. He delivered on getting the pieces needed around his 3 star players to win. And you know laugh all you want about McRoberts, but that was a super solid acquisition and only a piece of the puzzle around the core three. Riley get's it done. He is a fantastic NBA Executive. Lebron has considerably more confidence in his ability along with Bosh and Wade and Pat's and Spo's guidance than a complete unknown in Cleveland. It is an unknown. You have no statistical fact on your squad other than Kyrie Irving. The hope and dreams on lotto picks can go bad as history has shown over and over and over.

The East is weak enough for The Heat to again "get away" as many think with minimum vet's and other teams castaways because Riley knows how to pick the right vet's and reclamation projects for the most part (Oden and Beasly failed but Lewis and Birdman were hits), and Spo knows exactly how to plug them in around his 3 star players. Everyone's argument is Wade is not like he used to be. Same thing was said in the two title years too. Oh wade is breaking down, he is breaking down. Yeah he broke down in the second of two titles playing on one leg basically and having his knee drained every other day...but they still won it. This year they ran into a better team. Nothing is wrong with the Heat. Winning titles is very hard. You don't win them every year. But they sure as hell will be playing and contending for them the next 2-3 years if all three come back (which they will). Riley will plug holes each off-season as usual and hopefully Shabaaz develops by year two into a solid PG. For two players in their prime (Lebron and Bosh) to walk away from a team that has been in the Finals 4 straight years would be IMO the most shocking thing in NBA history. Seriously. It would be just dumbfounding. Miami is a first class franchise. One of the best over the last decade. Cleveland? Bro home is so overrated right now it is killing me LOL. Miami is Lebron's home and has been his office for the last 4 years...the light on for ya big fella. Come hand your hat here for 3-4 more years again and win another ring or two.

Again no offense and with all due respect.

LOL

THE HEAT WAY!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111

please I could coach and run that team if the big3 just wanted to show up for me.

Sigh

You're credibility just flew out the window.

Spo is a great young coach. One of the 6-7 best in the league no question. You don't get it. Riley's student and he learned from the master bro. You think you can just show up when you have those three? Don't think so. If anything bad coaching will ***k the whole thing up. And great coaching get's a team to 4 straight Finals. It takes a village. It takes excellence from all angles.

 

[Todem]

game 7 for The Marlins in 1997

Ok now you're looking for a fight.

F'n Joe Table

LOL man that was a crazy game!!!

Sorry for that. That must have been brutal for you.