*NBA THREAD* Abe will be missed (3 Viewers)

[tdoss]

I thought Wiggins was supposed to be the best thing since Pippen...why not keep him?

 

[Moe.]

And now GSW are willing to trade Thompson. Remember everyone, the Wolves have no leverage.

@timkawakami: Warriors source flatly denies a report that they are offering Klay Thompson to Minnesota. "It's not true," the source said minutes ago.

Who knows.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

If you could frankenstin together klay and rubio, you would have an awesome player.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

And now GSW are willing to trade Thompson. Remember everyone, the Wolves have no leverage.

DELUSIONAL!

If we had a Chilito for every time someone called Wolves fans delusional... we would never stop excreting diarrhea.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Isn't that tampering?

Undoubtedly.

Check your PMs.

 

[Beerguzzler]

Love would be stupid to sign a long term deal with Cleveland considering Lebron didn't. Who says he doesn't walk again if he has another blowup with the owner? Who really wants to get stuck in Cleveland long term?

 

[mr fancypants]

And now GSW are willing to trade Thompson. Remember everyone, the Wolves have no leverage.

DELUSIONAL!

Yeesh, Some FBG finds an idiotic site that panders to clicks and he proclaims this as reality,

 

[Village Idiot]

Boozer to the Lakers

$3.25M bid.

I think that might be the strangest signing all year for them. I am excited for the defensive possibilities with a Nash/Young/Kobe/Randle/Boozer lineup though. They are going to be incredible to watch on defensive with pretty much any lineup. Do they have a single average defender on the entire team?

If the Cavs trade Wiggins and get Love, Cavs vs. Lakers should be something like 6,748 to 6,218.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Love would be stupid to sign a long term deal with Cleveland considering Lebron didn't. Who says he doesn't walk again if he has another blowup with the owner? Who really wants to get stuck in Cleveland long term?

you realize they didn't have a 'blowup' until after Lebron left, right? And that he and his entire crew were treated like absolute gold the entire 7 years they were here? And that unlike Miami's owner, Gilbert has shown he will spend anything it takes to try to win? And that his 1-2 year deal is simply to maximize his earning power from year to year? And that if he left again after a year or two he would be the most hated athlete in the world? And being the villain doesn't work so well for him?

 

[Captain Quinoa]

And now GSW are willing to trade Thompson. Remember everyone, the Wolves have no leverage.

DELUSIONAL!

You are delusional if you think it's anyone other than the Twolves leaking all these "Klay and Wiggins are suddenly available" rumors.

 

[Abraham]

I'm going to laugh if we are at the trade deadline and the only real offers are things like "the Morris twins" or "oj mayo and a future 1."

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Love would be stupid to sign a long term deal with Cleveland considering Lebron didn't. Who says he doesn't walk again if he has another blowup with the owner? Who really wants to get stuck in Cleveland long term?

you realize they didn't have a 'blowup' until after Lebron left, right? And that he and his entire crew were treated like absolute gold the entire 7 years they were here? And that unlike Miami's owner, Gilbert has shown he will spend anything it takes to try to win? And that his 1-2 year deal is simply to maximize his earning power from year to year? And that if he left again after a year or two he would be the most hated athlete in the world? And being the villain doesn't work so well for him?

Lebron has the contract he does for one reason only... The NBA has a new TV contract coming up thus the salary cap is gonna take a big hit. He isnt going anywhere.

 

[pollardsvision]

Love would be stupid to sign a long term deal with Cleveland considering Lebron didn't. Who says he doesn't walk again if he has another blowup with the owner? Who really wants to get stuck in Cleveland long term?

you realize they didn't have a 'blowup' until after Lebron left, right? And that he and his entire crew were treated like absolute gold the entire 7 years they were here? And that unlike Miami's owner, Gilbert has shown he will spend anything it takes to try to win? And that his 1-2 year deal is simply to maximize his earning power from year to year? And that if he left again after a year or two he would be the most hated athlete in the world? And being the villain doesn't work so well for him?

Lebron has the contract he does for one reason only... The NBA has a new TV contract coming up thus the salary cap is gonna take a big hit. He isnt going anywhere.

No, it's more than one reason.

He's got 5-6 years of championship prime left (at most), and he can't put the control of most of that in the hands of any organization, much less one of the worst organizations in sports.

I doubt he leaves, but Love would be foolish to discount that possibility entirely. I bet Love's big long-term concession to make the CLE thing happen is opting in to that player option, not a long-term extension.

 

[cheese]

I'm going to laugh if we are at the trade deadline and the only real offers are things like "the Morris twins" or "oj mayo and a future 1."

I'm going to laugh if they land Wiggins because they didn't panic and make a trade several months before the season starts.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Love would be stupid to sign a long term deal with Cleveland considering Lebron didn't. Who says he doesn't walk again if he has another blowup with the owner? Who really wants to get stuck in Cleveland long term?

you realize they didn't have a 'blowup' until after Lebron left, right? And that he and his entire crew were treated like absolute gold the entire 7 years they were here? And that unlike Miami's owner, Gilbert has shown he will spend anything it takes to try to win? And that his 1-2 year deal is simply to maximize his earning power from year to year? And that if he left again after a year or two he would be the most hated athlete in the world? And being the villain doesn't work so well for him?

Lebron has the contract he does for one reason only... The NBA has a new TV contract coming up thus the salary cap is gonna take a big hit. He isnt going anywhere.

No, it's more than one reason.

He's got 5-6 years of championship prime left (at most), and he can't put the control of most of that in the hands of any organization, much less one of the worst organizations in sports.

I doubt he leaves, but Love would be foolish to discount that possibility entirely. I bet Love's big long-term concession to make the CLE thing happen is opting in to that player option, not a long-term extension.

It's about business and not championships with this contract. He isn't leaving Cleveland even if they win 20 games this year.

 

[pollardsvision]

Love would be stupid to sign a long term deal with Cleveland considering Lebron didn't. Who says he doesn't walk again if he has another blowup with the owner? Who really wants to get stuck in Cleveland long term?

you realize they didn't have a 'blowup' until after Lebron left, right? And that he and his entire crew were treated like absolute gold the entire 7 years they were here? And that unlike Miami's owner, Gilbert has shown he will spend anything it takes to try to win? And that his 1-2 year deal is simply to maximize his earning power from year to year? And that if he left again after a year or two he would be the most hated athlete in the world? And being the villain doesn't work so well for him?

Lebron has the contract he does for one reason only... The NBA has a new TV contract coming up thus the salary cap is gonna take a big hit. He isnt going anywhere.

No, it's more than one reason.

He's got 5-6 years of championship prime left (at most), and he can't put the control of most of that in the hands of any organization, much less one of the worst organizations in sports.

I doubt he leaves, but Love would be foolish to discount that possibility entirely. I bet Love's big long-term concession to make the CLE thing happen is opting in to that player option, not a long-term extension.

It's about business and not championships with this contract. He isn't leaving Cleveland even if they win 20 games this year.

It's like we've gone into the twilight zone this off-season.

You're right. There's absolutely no way this ends poorly for the Cleveland Cavaliers.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Love would be stupid to sign a long term deal with Cleveland considering Lebron didn't. Who says he doesn't walk again if he has another blowup with the owner? Who really wants to get stuck in Cleveland long term?

you realize they didn't have a 'blowup' until after Lebron left, right? And that he and his entire crew were treated like absolute gold the entire 7 years they were here? And that unlike Miami's owner, Gilbert has shown he will spend anything it takes to try to win? And that his 1-2 year deal is simply to maximize his earning power from year to year? And that if he left again after a year or two he would be the most hated athlete in the world? And being the villain doesn't work so well for him?

Lebron has the contract he does for one reason only... The NBA has a new TV contract coming up thus the salary cap is gonna take a big hit. He isnt going anywhere.

No, it's more than one reason.

He's got 5-6 years of championship prime left (at most), and he can't put the control of most of that in the hands of any organization, much less one of the worst organizations in sports.

I doubt he leaves, but Love would be foolish to discount that possibility entirely. I bet Love's big long-term concession to make the CLE thing happen is opting in to that player option, not a long-term extension.

It's about business and not championships with this contract. He isn't leaving Cleveland even if they win 20 games this year.

It's like we've gone into the twilight zone this off-season.

You're right. There's absolutely no way this ends poorly for the Cleveland Cavaliers.

Well I am not saying that, it is Cleveland after all.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Wow, the News Herald is reporting the Cavs will trade Wiggins, plus another player and picks for Love, rumor is James has had some input. I think this deal goes down in 48 hours.

James the GM = trouble for CLE

You mean like when Miami tripped all over themselves to get Napier because Lebron said he liked him?

 

[pollardsvision]

James is a damn good GM. He always lands the best basketball player in the world.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Tom Withers @twithersAP · 3m

AP: Two people familiar with the situation say Cavaliers' position has remained unchanged and that no offer including Wiggins has been made

 

[Frostillicus]

Tom Withers @twithersAP · 3m

AP: Two people familiar with the situation say Cavaliers' position has remained unchanged and that no offer including Wiggins has been made

<_<

 

[Frostillicus]

Wait I got it. Cavs trade rights to Wiggins to Wolves for Love. Wiggins refuses to sign with Minnesota, sits out a year, and becomes a free agent then signing with Toronto.

 

[pollardsvision]

Tom Withers @twithersAP · 3m

AP: Two people familiar with the situation say Cavaliers' position has remained unchanged and that no offer including Wiggins has been made

<_<

That's good. The first step in recovering from this disorder is understanding those thoughts and hallucinations can't possibly be real.

 

[pollardsvision]

Sorry fellas, the bidding has ended. Jannero Pargo will return to the Hornets.

His official role is "be a good dude and help make sure Lance and PJ don't stuff Zeller in a locker"

 

[fantasycurse42]

THEY NEED TO MOVE WIGGINS!!! THEY ARE PLAYING TO WIN A TITLE IN 2015, I DON'T CARE WHAT LEBRON SAYS, HE IS THE BEST IN THE GAME AND THE BEST DON'T PLAY TO BUILD FOR THE FUTURE, THEY PLAY TO WIN NOW...

IF THEY HAVE TO GIVE UP A PICK AND WIGGINS, SO ####### BE IT, IF THAT MEANS CHAMPIONSHIPS NOW! NOT MOVING WIGGINS IF THEY CAN GET LOVE IS A GIGANTIC BLUNDER IMO!!!

I'M YELLING THIS POST AT THE TOP OF MY LUNGS!!

 

[sporthenry]

The problem with Wiggins is that right now he is around equal or more valuable to most franchises. Love does have value immediately to the Cavs so the trade makes some sense but the Cavs would have to give up Wiggins plus to match salaries. So you're either selling really low on Bennett, trading your backup PF or your probable starig SG with Wiggins gone. And you are most likely not getting anything else back. If I was the Cavs I'd want something of value in addition to Love. Draft picks don't really help now. Trade exception would be nice but they're the ones taking on more salary. With Love, they become prohibitive favorites in the East but still missing pieces to win a title.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

THEY NEED TO MOVE WIGGINS!!! THEY ARE PLAYING TO WIN A TITLE IN 2015, I DON'T CARE WHAT LEBRON SAYS, HE IS THE BEST IN THE GAME AND THE BEST DON'T PLAY TO BUILD FOR THE FUTURE, THEY PLAY TO WIN NOW...

IF THEY HAVE TO GIVE UP A PICK AND WIGGINS, SO ####### BE IT, IF THAT MEANS CHAMPIONSHIPS NOW! NOT MOVING WIGGINS IF THEY CAN GET LOVE IS A GIGANTIC BLUNDER IMO!!!

I'M YELLING THIS POST AT THE TOP OF MY LUNGS!!

What!?

 

[biggamer3]

Denver should just man up and trade Gallo, MozGod and Wilson Chandler for KLove. Those three were enough for Melo, Love a notch below Melo.

 

[biggamer3]

The problem with Wiggins is that right now he is around equal or more valuable to most franchises. Love does have value immediately to the Cavs so the trade makes some sense but the Cavs would have to give up Wiggins plus to match salaries. So you're either selling really low on Bennett, trading your backup PF or your probable starig SG with Wiggins gone. And you are most likely not getting anything else back. If I was the Cavs I'd want something of value in addition to Love. Draft picks don't really help now. Trade exception would be nice but they're the ones taking on more salary. With Love, they become prohibitive favorites in the East but still missing pieces to win a title.

Yeah, this is where the lack of a bad contract such as Jarret Jack really hurts Cleveland. If salaries weren't an issue in trades, Minny accepts Wiggins for Klove instantly IMO. Now that they have to add some salary into deal they will have to lose Bennet, Thomspon just for filler purposes and they probably would hate throwing additional assets into deal just to even out salary. If they do have to add in Bennet, Waiters or Tristan then IMO they will demand Deng back from Minny.

 

[fantasycurse42]

The problem with Wiggins is that right now he is around equal or more valuable to most franchises. Love does have value immediately to the Cavs so the trade makes some sense but the Cavs would have to give up Wiggins plus to match salaries. So you're either selling really low on Bennett, trading your backup PF or your probable starig SG with Wiggins gone. And you are most likely not getting anything else back. If I was the Cavs I'd want something of value in addition to Love. Draft picks don't really help now. Trade exception would be nice but they're the ones taking on more salary. With Love, they become prohibitive favorites in the East but still missing pieces to win a title.

Love, Lebron, & Irving are almost a lock to win the east and I think they are the favorites to win it all...

 

[Leroy Hoard]

The problem with Wiggins is that right now he is around equal or more valuable to most franchises. Love does have value immediately to the Cavs so the trade makes some sense but the Cavs would have to give up Wiggins plus to match salaries. So you're either selling really low on Bennett, trading your backup PF or your probable starig SG with Wiggins gone. And you are most likely not getting anything else back. If I was the Cavs I'd want something of value in addition to Love. Draft picks don't really help now. Trade exception would be nice but they're the ones taking on more salary. With Love, they become prohibitive favorites in the East but still missing pieces to win a title.

Love, Lebron, & Irving are almost a lock to win the east and I think they are the favorites to win it all...

Pretty sure the odds would move that way even if they don't actually do it.

 

[fantasycurse42]

The problem with Wiggins is that right now he is around equal or more valuable to most franchises. Love does have value immediately to the Cavs so the trade makes some sense but the Cavs would have to give up Wiggins plus to match salaries. So you're either selling really low on Bennett, trading your backup PF or your probable starig SG with Wiggins gone. And you are most likely not getting anything else back. If I was the Cavs I'd want something of value in addition to Love. Draft picks don't really help now. Trade exception would be nice but they're the ones taking on more salary. With Love, they become prohibitive favorites in the East but still missing pieces to win a title.

Love, Lebron, & Irving are almost a lock to win the east and I think they are the favorites to win it all...

Pretty sure the odds would move that way even if they don't actually do it.

SA will prob remain the favorite to win it all without that trade.

 

[Timmay]

Love would be stupid to sign a long term deal with Cleveland considering Lebron didn't. Who says he doesn't walk again if he has another blowup with the owner? Who really wants to get stuck in Cleveland long term?

Plus Love will be missing out on that big TV contract money that is expected to hit in the next couple years.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

The problem with Wiggins is that right now he is around equal or more valuable to most franchises. Love does have value immediately to the Cavs so the trade makes some sense but the Cavs would have to give up Wiggins plus to match salaries. So you're either selling really low on Bennett, trading your backup PF or your probable starig SG with Wiggins gone. And you are most likely not getting anything else back. If I was the Cavs I'd want something of value in addition to Love. Draft picks don't really help now. Trade exception would be nice but they're the ones taking on more salary. With Love, they become prohibitive favorites in the East but still missing pieces to win a title.

Love, Lebron, & Irving are almost a lock to win the east and I think they are the favorites to win it all...

Pretty sure the odds would move that way even if they don't actually do it.

SA will prob remain the favorite to win it all without that trade.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/futures/

already past that at this site

 

[fantasycurse42]

Love would be stupid to sign a long term deal with Cleveland considering Lebron didn't. Who says he doesn't walk again if he has another blowup with the owner? Who really wants to get stuck in Cleveland long term?

Plus Love will be missing out on that big TV contract money that is expected to hit in the next couple years.

Couldn't he just sign a deal with the option to opt out after two?

The problem with Wiggins is that right now he is around equal or more valuable to most franchises. Love does have value immediately to the Cavs so the trade makes some sense but the Cavs would have to give up Wiggins plus to match salaries. So you're either selling really low on Bennett, trading your backup PF or your probable starig SG with Wiggins gone. And you are most likely not getting anything else back. If I was the Cavs I'd want something of value in addition to Love. Draft picks don't really help now. Trade exception would be nice but they're the ones taking on more salary. With Love, they become prohibitive favorites in the East but still missing pieces to win a title.

Love, Lebron, & Irving are almost a lock to win the east and I think they are the favorites to win it all...

Pretty sure the odds would move that way even if they don't actually do it.

SA will prob remain the favorite to win it all without that trade.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/futures/

already past that at this site

That is just silly...

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Love would be stupid to sign a long term deal with Cleveland considering Lebron didn't. Who says he doesn't walk again if he has another blowup with the owner? Who really wants to get stuck in Cleveland long term?

Plus Love will be missing out on that big TV contract money that is expected to hit in the next couple years.

Couldn't he just sign a deal with the option to opt out after two?

The problem with Wiggins is that right now he is around equal or more valuable to most franchises. Love does have value immediately to the Cavs so the trade makes some sense but the Cavs would have to give up Wiggins plus to match salaries. So you're either selling really low on Bennett, trading your backup PF or your probable starig SG with Wiggins gone. And you are most likely not getting anything else back. If I was the Cavs I'd want something of value in addition to Love. Draft picks don't really help now. Trade exception would be nice but they're the ones taking on more salary. With Love, they become prohibitive favorites in the East but still missing pieces to win a title.

Love, Lebron, & Irving are almost a lock to win the east and I think they are the favorites to win it all...

Pretty sure the odds would move that way even if they don't actually do it.

SA will prob remain the favorite to win it all without that trade.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/futures/

already past that at this site

That is just silly...

I actually agree with you. The public is in a Lebron frenzy right now.

 

[Frostillicus]

The problem with Wiggins is that right now he is around equal or more valuable to most franchises. Love does have value immediately to the Cavs so the trade makes some sense but the Cavs would have to give up Wiggins plus to match salaries. So you're either selling really low on Bennett, trading your backup PF or your probable starig SG with Wiggins gone. And you are most likely not getting anything else back. If I was the Cavs I'd want something of value in addition to Love. Draft picks don't really help now. Trade exception would be nice but they're the ones taking on more salary. With Love, they become prohibitive favorites in the East but still missing pieces to win a title.

They can have Kevin Martin.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Love would be stupid to sign a long term deal with Cleveland considering Lebron didn't. Who says he doesn't walk again if he has another blowup with the owner? Who really wants to get stuck in Cleveland long term?

Plus Love will be missing out on that big TV contract money that is expected to hit in the next couple years.

Couldn't he just sign a deal with the option to opt out after two?

The problem with Wiggins is that right now he is around equal or more valuable to most franchises. Love does have value immediately to the Cavs so the trade makes some sense but the Cavs would have to give up Wiggins plus to match salaries. So you're either selling really low on Bennett, trading your backup PF or your probable starig SG with Wiggins gone. And you are most likely not getting anything else back. If I was the Cavs I'd want something of value in addition to Love. Draft picks don't really help now. Trade exception would be nice but they're the ones taking on more salary. With Love, they become prohibitive favorites in the East but still missing pieces to win a title.

Love, Lebron, & Irving are almost a lock to win the east and I think they are the favorites to win it all...

Pretty sure the odds would move that way even if they don't actually do it.

SA will prob remain the favorite to win it all without that trade.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/futures/

already past that at this site

That is just silly...

I actually agree with you. The public is in a Lebron frenzy right now.

Remember that odds to win the title aren't a reflection of who is considered the best team. Being in the East helps tremendously because it reduces the odds of an upset in the early rounds. We saw it last season too- the Heat were the favorites to win the title pretty much throughout the season and most of the postseason even though the Spurs were actually favored by a decent amount once the two teams reached the Finals.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Love would be stupid to sign a long term deal with Cleveland considering Lebron didn't. Who says he doesn't walk again if he has another blowup with the owner? Who really wants to get stuck in Cleveland long term?

Plus Love will be missing out on that big TV contract money that is expected to hit in the next couple years.

Couldn't he just sign a deal with the option to opt out after two?

The problem with Wiggins is that right now he is around equal or more valuable to most franchises. Love does have value immediately to the Cavs so the trade makes some sense but the Cavs would have to give up Wiggins plus to match salaries. So you're either selling really low on Bennett, trading your backup PF or your probable starig SG with Wiggins gone. And you are most likely not getting anything else back. If I was the Cavs I'd want something of value in addition to Love. Draft picks don't really help now. Trade exception would be nice but they're the ones taking on more salary. With Love, they become prohibitive favorites in the East but still missing pieces to win a title.

Love, Lebron, & Irving are almost a lock to win the east and I think they are the favorites to win it all...

Pretty sure the odds would move that way even if they don't actually do it.

SA will prob remain the favorite to win it all without that trade.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/futures/

already past that at this site

That is just silly...

I actually agree with you. The public is in a Lebron frenzy right now.

Remember that odds to win the title aren't a reflection of who is considered the best team. Being in the East helps tremendously because it reduces the odds of an upset in the early rounds. We saw it last season too- the Heat were the favorites to win the title pretty much throughout the season and most of the postseason even though the Spurs were actually favored by a decent amount once the two teams reached the Finals.

What you say makes a lot of sense, but I still think having them as the number one favorite is a little over the top.

 

[sporthenry]

Love would be stupid to sign a long term deal with Cleveland considering Lebron didn't. Who says he doesn't walk again if he has another blowup with the owner? Who really wants to get stuck in Cleveland long term?

Plus Love will be missing out on that big TV contract money that is expected to hit in the next couple years.

Couldn't he just sign a deal with the option to opt out after two?

The problem with Wiggins is that right now he is around equal or more valuable to most franchises. Love does have value immediately to the Cavs so the trade makes some sense but the Cavs would have to give up Wiggins plus to match salaries. So you're either selling really low on Bennett, trading your backup PF or your probable starig SG with Wiggins gone. And you are most likely not getting anything else back. If I was the Cavs I'd want something of value in addition to Love. Draft picks don't really help now. Trade exception would be nice but they're the ones taking on more salary. With Love, they become prohibitive favorites in the East but still missing pieces to win a title.

Love, Lebron, & Irving are almost a lock to win the east and I think they are the favorites to win it all...

Pretty sure the odds would move that way even if they don't actually do it.

SA will prob remain the favorite to win it all without that trade.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/futures/already past that at this site

That is just silly...

I actually agree with you. The public is in a Lebron frenzy right now.

Odds right now are relatively useless with all the uncertainty. Also think some books got caught with LeBron moving so they are keeping the Cavs down a bit until the rosters are finalized. But even then, they'll still likely be favorites because of the East. They have much better odds of making it out of the East so even if their odds of winning straight up are less than 40%, it is still better than the West where Thunder/Spurs are toss up to get to finals. As far as Love, he is under contract already and has a player option for next year. So pretty sure he just opts in and becomes a FA with LeBron in 2 years. Probably costs him a few million next year but keeps his options open.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Remember that odds to win the title aren't a reflection of who is considered the best team. Being in the East helps tremendously because it reduces the odds of an upset in the early rounds. We saw it last season too- the Heat were the favorites to win the title pretty much throughout the season and most of the postseason even though the Spurs were actually favored by a decent amount once the two teams reached the Finals.

What you say makes a lot of sense, but I still think having them as the number one favorite is a little over the top.

Don't get me wrong, I don't like the Cavs as favorites even if they do pick up Love, so I agree with your conclusion. Just pointing out the significant difference between being favorite to win the title and being considered the best team due to the imbalance between the conferences the last couple years.

 

[wadegarrett]

Tom Withers @twithersAP · 3m

AP: Two people familiar with the situation say Cavaliers' position has remained unchanged and that no offer including Wiggins has been made

This whole rumor mill is ridiculous. Would be shocked if the Cavs moved Wiggins before he's even had a chance to play with LeBron.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Tom Withers @twithersAP · 3m

AP: Two people familiar with the situation say Cavaliers' position has remained unchanged and that no offer including Wiggins has been made

This whole rumor mill is ridiculous. Would be shocked if the Cavs moved Wiggins before he's even had a chance to play with LeBron.

I would be shocked if they didn't... He is the final piece, Wiggins is a rookie. He has averaged 19/12 for his career, last year 26/12. Rebounds and shoots like a rock star. Who cares about 3 years down the road when they can win titles now?

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Kurt Helin ‏@basketballtalk 2m

Report: Timberwolves prefer Klay Thompson to Andrew Wiggins in Kevin Love trade http://dlvr.it/6MQBq7

ewf

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Onion Sports Network ‏@OnionSports 16m

Report: 76ers Have Enough Cap Space To Infuriate Fan Base

teehee

 

[thecatch]

Tom Withers @twithersAP · 3m

AP: Two people familiar with the situation say Cavaliers' position has remained unchanged and that no offer including Wiggins has been made

This whole rumor mill is ridiculous. Would be shocked if the Cavs moved Wiggins before he's even had a chance to play with LeBron.

I would be shocked if they didn't... He is the final piece, Wiggins is a rookie. He has averaged 19/12 for his career, last year 26/12. Rebounds and shoots like a rock star. Who cares about 3 years down the road when they can win titles now?

The Cavs defense is going to be horrific if they make that trade, and Love isn't a 26/12 player as the second/third banana on a contender. He's a very good player but people are overrating the synergy here, especially after the Cavs already added a bunch of shooting in Miller and Jones to go along with Kyrie.

 

[randall146]

Regarding a Love extensions scenario, could a player sign a contract for x% of the cap rather than a specific dollar amount?

 

[wadegarrett]

Tom Withers @twithersAP · 3m

AP: Two people familiar with the situation say Cavaliers' position has remained unchanged and that no offer including Wiggins has been made

This whole rumor mill is ridiculous. Would be shocked if the Cavs moved Wiggins before he's even had a chance to play with LeBron.

I would be shocked if they didn't... He is the final piece, Wiggins is a rookie. He has averaged 19/12 for his career, last year 26/12. Rebounds and shoots like a rock star. Who cares about 3 years down the road when they can win titles now?

Those are great looking stats. Why do they have to make the trade on July 18th?

 

[MAC_32]

Tom Withers @twithersAP · 3m

AP: Two people familiar with the situation say Cavaliers' position has remained unchanged and that no offer including Wiggins has been made

This whole rumor mill is ridiculous. Would be shocked if the Cavs moved Wiggins before he's even had a chance to play with LeBron.

I would be shocked if they didn't... He is the final piece, Wiggins is a rookie. He has averaged 19/12 for his career, last year 26/12. Rebounds and shoots like a rock star. Who cares about 3 years down the road when they can win titles now?

Has there ever been a case of a team throwing this many new pieces together then winning a title the same year?

 

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Tom Withers @twithersAP · 3m

AP: Two people familiar with the situation say Cavaliers' position has remained unchanged and that no offer including Wiggins has been made

This whole rumor mill is ridiculous. Would be shocked if the Cavs moved Wiggins before he's even had a chance to play with LeBron.

I would be shocked if they didn't... He is the final piece, Wiggins is a rookie. He has averaged 19/12 for his career, last year 26/12. Rebounds and shoots like a rock star. Who cares about 3 years down the road when they can win titles now?

Has there ever been a case of a team throwing this many new pieces together then winning a title the same year?

Did Boston (Garnett, Allen) do it in year 1?