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mcintyre1
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Chance to see Rubio, Wiggins, Bennett, Lavine, etc. scrimmage a bit and then dunk contest on Timberwolves.com at midnight.
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Frostillicus
Footballguy
mcintyre1
Footballguy
They just spent the entire first "game" featuring Andrew Wiggins and Rubio playing together with a closeup of Kevin Martins face during an interview. Terrible production value all around so far. Also missed dunks and stuff while the camera slowly panned around on fans. Glad I stayed up for this.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
Still don't know why Grayson never got a 10-day contract at least. 10x the player Skip to my Lou was.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
SWC
Bromigo
brohans i hope that minesota lets some big fat guy on the court with a mircrophone to shout oh baby whenever someone dunks they will still lose by about a hondo every game and try to be as bad as the bucks but it would at least be a loss by a hondo with a huge fat guy shouting oh baby which would be nice take that to the bank bromigos
Sammy3469
Footballguy
Dan Lebatard was going on about them on his show yesterday. Would basically be Hibbert for Waiters and parts.Good times in Minny it seems. Dunks, ipads, closeups
Anything to these Hibbert to Cle rumors I've been hearing?
Bobcat10
Footballguy
That's what I've heard. Not knowing all the details about Indiana's decline during the season last year has me a little gun shy here. Seemed like Hibbert was part of it all and the Cavs don't need a headcase. I like Waiters too.Dan Lebatard was going on about them on his show yesterday. Would basically be Hibbert for Waiters and parts.Good times in Minny it seems. Dunks, ipads, closeups
Anything to these Hibbert to Cle rumors I've been hearing?
I'm low on Waiters, but that would be a huge shot in the arm for Cleveland's likely terrible defense, assuming Hibbert is salvageable.That's what I've heard. Not knowing all the details about Indiana's decline during the season last year has me a little gun shy here. Seemed like Hibbert was part of it all and the Cavs don't need a headcase. I like Waiters too.Dan Lebatard was going on about them on his show yesterday. Would basically be Hibbert for Waiters and parts.Good times in Minny it seems. Dunks, ipads, closeups
Anything to these Hibbert to Cle rumors I've been hearing?
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I got to attend the event in person. Was a GIANT buzzkill that the "dunk contest" was all of 3-4 minutes of players just dunking the ball on 3-on-0 drills to end the practice. But that said, some thoughts on the Wolves after the event:
1. All but Kevin Martin couldn't hit the backboard from the perimeter...much less put it in the basket. Shooting that night was horrific (like a junior high team's second string practicing). But in their defense, the practice was held from ~12:00-1:45am.
2. Lavine's got some amazing hops! He gets off the ground so quick, so high. He also seems to play with a chip on his shoulder. No fear. So long as that chip on his shoulder doesn't keep him from learning from better players and the coaching staff.
3. Wiggins just seems to "glide" on the court. Smooth. He's lanky, but man he has a quick first-step and can elevate! If not for Lavine, folks would ooh and aah over how quick, how high, he gets off the ground. I'd like to see him add muscle/weight, but guy's still got a few years to develop physically.
4. Shabazz Muhammad was playing like a man whose opposing team asked out his long-time girlfriend after kicking his dog during that scrimmage. He and Corey Brewer briefly got into it a couple times on the court (very rough play for a friendly scrimmage), and he looks like he is playing a bit "angry" this year. He, Martin and Brewer were probably the "MVPs" of the scrimmage, ridiculous passing ability of Ricky Rubio aside.
The Wolves are probably going to lose a lot of games this year, but man are they going to be fun to watch. And they'll have most older and/or poorly-conditioned teams in the NBA grabbing their shorts and trying to suck in some air for most of the second half. They are a young, talented, quick, seriously-athletic team that might be near the top of the league in fast break points and points after rebounds/turnovers. But they'll probably be among the 4-5 worst shooting teams in the NBA. It'll be fun AND frustrating to watch.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
9 year $24 billion TV deal.
Premier
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tommyGunZ
Footballguy
Dumb Kobe, refusing to emulate athletes who sacrifice millions so that billionaire owners make more profit.
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
I don't mind that Kobe gets every penny he can. Good for him. What I'm talking about is that he still talks about how the team will compete for a title and that his latest deal hasn't hampered that pursuit- and got angry when people with common sense had the nerve to point out otherwise. That's what I find amazing- he can be so intelligent and perceptive and still be so ignorant of how the game has changed because his massive ego won't allow him to recognize it. He's literally learned more about basketball from watching cheetahs than from watching the Spurs.
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Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Faried 5/$60M
Sammy3469
Footballguy
It's not like the average is only 88.8 million per team per year
That's more than a double, so you basically add another max level player to each team and bails out teams like the Knicks, et al.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Just in time for the Knicks to give Amare and Bargnani max extensionsIt's not like the average is only 88.8 million per team per year
Sammy3469
Footballguy
Phil don't play that. <_<Just in time for the Knicks to give Amare and Bargnani max extensionsIt's not like the average is only 88.8 million per team per year
In all seriousness though, I know it's not unique anymore, but the Knicks have a pretty blank slate after this season.
JMon348
Footballguy
Will there ever be a time that the NBA releases something that we can view old games on demand? I know they have an extensive library, and NBATv, does an ok job of showing past games. Do you think there ever will be a day that I could pull up a random Laker game from 2001 and watch it?
Seems like a similar thing that the WWE Network is doing would make a lot of money for the NBA. Have some exclusive coverage on there and have a complete video library of past games, you can even make it team based and charge like $10 a month like the WWE.
Thought I'd ask with this new TV deal being announced.
Seems like a similar thing that the WWE Network is doing would make a lot of money for the NBA. Have some exclusive coverage on there and have a complete video library of past games, you can even make it team based and charge like $10 a month like the WWE.
Thought I'd ask with this new TV deal being announced.
Kev4029
Footballguy
I suppose I like that deal. I think hes more of a $10m/yr player but with the cap bound to rise, I'm okay with it.
Abraham
Footballguy
Notorious T.R.E.
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I think this will seem tame compared to the deals that will be cranked out over the next year or so. The pre-new bargaining deal spending spree is on.
Todem
Footballguy
Less than a month away from some Miami Heat Basketball!!!
Thank god for the NBA...once baseball is over, I need my nightly sports fix and the NBA delivers no question.
Chalmers
Wade
Deng
McRoberts
Bosh
Not too bad, not too bad at all. Look forward to a good season and surprising the NBA that we are not dead down here. Of course...Wade must play at least 70 games for us to have a shot at anything in the regular season. By all accounts down here he looks trim, and ready to go. The locker room seems far more relaxed as well. James Ennis is a very interesting player for us and I will be curious to see if he indeed has made the jump. he looked really good over the summer and off to a good start in the pre-season.
Let the post Lerun errrr Lebron era begin!
Thank god for the NBA...once baseball is over, I need my nightly sports fix and the NBA delivers no question.
Chalmers
Wade
Deng
McRoberts
Bosh
Not too bad, not too bad at all. Look forward to a good season and surprising the NBA that we are not dead down here. Of course...Wade must play at least 70 games for us to have a shot at anything in the regular season. By all accounts down here he looks trim, and ready to go. The locker room seems far more relaxed as well. James Ennis is a very interesting player for us and I will be curious to see if he indeed has made the jump. he looked really good over the summer and off to a good start in the pre-season.
Let the post Lerun errrr Lebron era begin!
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tommyGunZ
Footballguy
People said the same thing when Shaq left. "Kobe will never compete for a title again" and so forth. Had the Lakers snagged Carmelo, I think they're in the discussion.Perhaps you guys are right this time, and Kobe is done. But damn, it seems like you'd have learned something from throwing dirt on his grave so many times in the past.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
I don't think anyone said he'd never compete for a title again. He was 26 at the time. That would be a silly thing to say.
Perhaps you guys are right this time, and Kobe is done. But damn, it seems like you'd have learned something from throwing dirt on his grave so many times in the past.
They said the Lakers would drop off considerably. They did, as I'm sure you remember, despite Kobe possibly playing the best ball of his career. It took four years and a massive trade for them to return to contention.
Anyway, you'll notice once again that I never said Kobe was done. That's what you want so you can falsely claim "I told you so" again in three years when the Lakers get out from under his current deal and can throw max money and three different guys and he contends one more time as the third or fourth best player on the 2017 Lakers. But save it. I said his current deal hampers the Lakers. It clearly does. That's not really up for debate.
Todem
Footballguy
Hacked that...sorry had McRoberts on my mind when I typed that.James Ennis.Todem said:
Kid looks like he may be an impact player for us.
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Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Hacked that...sorry had McRoberts on my mind when I typed that.Todem said:
James Innis.
Kid looks like he may be an impact player for us.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
I think he means James Outis.Hacked that...sorry had McRoberts on my mind when I typed that.Todem said:
James Innis.
Kid looks like he may be an impact player for us.
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
Of course his deal hampers the Lakers. Every dollar that every player earns above the league minimum "hampers" their team's ability to instead use that dollar for acquiring additional talent.TobiasFunke said:I don't think anyone said he'd never compete for a title again. He was 26 at the time. That would be a silly thing to say.tommyGunZ said:
Perhaps you guys are right this time, and Kobe is done. But damn, it seems like you'd have learned something from throwing dirt on his grave so many times in the past.
They said the Lakers would drop off considerably. They did, as I'm sure you remember, despite Kobe possibly playing the best ball of his career. It took four years and a massive trade for them to return to contention.
Anyway, you'll notice once again that I never said Kobe was done. That's what you want so you can falsely claim "I told you so" again in three years when the Lakers get out from under his current deal and can throw max money and three different guys and he contends one more time as the third or fourth best player on the 2017 Lakers. But save it. I said his current deal hampers the Lakers. It clearly does. That's not really up for debate.
It's fashionable to point at Kobe's 24M and say his greed is killing LA's chances at a 2015 title. On a $ per efficiency basis, he's certainly overpaid, though I would argue not nearly as much as many think assuming he's an All-Star and a top 10-15 player this year as is likely. Duncan and Dirk's financial stupidity shouldn't be held against Kobe.
Village Idiot
Pokerguy
You mean Duncan's and Dirk's willingness to take less salary to build a better roster around them.Apparently they don't think it is stupid to do that.Of course his deal hampers the Lakers. Every dollar that every player earns above the league minimum "hampers" their team's ability to instead use that dollar for acquiring additional talent.TobiasFunke said:I don't think anyone said he'd never compete for a title again. He was 26 at the time. That would be a silly thing to say.tommyGunZ said:
Perhaps you guys are right this time, and Kobe is done. But damn, it seems like you'd have learned something from throwing dirt on his grave so many times in the past.
They said the Lakers would drop off considerably. They did, as I'm sure you remember, despite Kobe possibly playing the best ball of his career. It took four years and a massive trade for them to return to contention.
Anyway, you'll notice once again that I never said Kobe was done. That's what you want so you can falsely claim "I told you so" again in three years when the Lakers get out from under his current deal and can throw max money and three different guys and he contends one more time as the third or fourth best player on the 2017 Lakers. But save it. I said his current deal hampers the Lakers. It clearly does. That's not really up for debate.
It's fashionable to point at Kobe's 24M and say his greed is killing LA's chances at a 2015 title. On a $ per efficiency basis, he's certainly overpaid, though I would argue not nearly as much as many think assuming he's an All-Star and a top 10-15 player this year as is likely. Duncan and Dirk's financial stupidity shouldn't be held against Kobe.
I hope Kobe plays beyond the next 2 years and demands and gets something like 30 million dollars a year.
Kev4029
Footballguy
Of course his deal hampers the Lakers. Every dollar that every player earns above the league minimum "hampers" their team's ability to instead use that dollar for acquiring additional talent.TobiasFunke said:I don't think anyone said he'd never compete for a title again. He was 26 at the time. That would be a silly thing to say.tommyGunZ said:
Perhaps you guys are right this time, and Kobe is done. But damn, it seems like you'd have learned something from throwing dirt on his grave so many times in the past.
They said the Lakers would drop off considerably. They did, as I'm sure you remember, despite Kobe possibly playing the best ball of his career. It took four years and a massive trade for them to return to contention.
Anyway, you'll notice once again that I never said Kobe was done. That's what you want so you can falsely claim "I told you so" again in three years when the Lakers get out from under his current deal and can throw max money and three different guys and he contends one more time as the third or fourth best player on the 2017 Lakers. But save it. I said his current deal hampers the Lakers. It clearly does. That's not really up for debate.
It's fashionable to point at Kobe's 24M and say his greed is killing LA's chances at a 2015 title. On a $ per efficiency basis, he's certainly overpaid, though I would argue not nearly as much as many think assuming he's an All-Star and a top 10-15 player this year as is likely. Duncan and Dirk's financial stupidity shouldn't be held against Kobe.
You can't really believe that, can you?
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Faried's deal reworked to 4/$50.
simmonjm
Footballguy
That team is hot garbage, the Eastern conference should rebound with exception of the Pacers. Chalmers as a starting PG is a travesty. You will be lucky to get 60 games out of Wade and that's likely him not playing a lick of defense like in the finals against the Spurs. McRoberts is a decent pick up I suppose but he is best coming off the bench. Deng looked really bad last year don't know if it was the mid season transfer or what. I don't see more than 40 wins at best.
Todem
Footballguy
Premier
Footballguy
I agree with everything he said except for 40 wins. The east is bad enough that they should get to 45.
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