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*NBA THREAD* Abe will be missed (7 Viewers)

That took about 30 seconds longer than I expected. :)

Can they honor Veterans with a huge donation or something instead of making our eyes bleed?

 
timschochet said:
Premier said:
timschochet said:
Card Trader said:
Kobe is terrible. This guy can't hit a shot all season, such a terrible chucker now. Sad to see
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23 points, 7 assists, 5 rebounds, 4 steals.Guy can't do it all, but he's sure trying.
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8/22
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So what? He's being double and triple teamed, and nobody else is even trying [/b{to score. What do you guys expect? His production is amazing.
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How did he get those assists?

 
timschochet said:
Premier said:
timschochet said:
Card Trader said:
Kobe is terrible. This guy can't hit a shot all season, such a terrible chucker now. Sad to see
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23 points, 7 assists, 5 rebounds, 4 steals.Guy can't do it all, but he's sure trying.
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8/22
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So what? He's being double and triple teamed, and nobody else is even trying to score. What do you guys expect? His production is amazing.
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He's basically having a season game assist wise and it's still terrible considering how much he gets doubled. Literally everyone on the Lakers shoots at a higher percentage so I don't buy that he's always the best option. He's a ball hogging chucker and is a massive detriment to his team.

 
Kobe is not being triple-teamed ( :lmao: ) and I haven't seen a ton of doubles thrown his way.

Hate to break this to you Tim, but teams want him to shoot.

 
@sportspickle: "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take." - Wayne Gretzky

"And 13,418 shots I did take." - Kobe Bryant

 
timschochet said:
The Lakers will be back, much sooner than most of the haters think. In the meantime, we can all still enjoy watching one of the all-time greatest basketball players ever at work. Your grandkids will ask you about him someday.
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There's no way to say this accurately when you have no idea who any of their starting five are going to be two years from now.

The old man is gone, and Tommy Boy's in charge now. I wouldn't presume that everything's going to snap back to what it once was just because it always happened when they had a great owner.

Glad my Lakers +10 ticket cashed though.

 
Good Posting Judge said:
timschochet said:
The Lakers will be back, much sooner than most of the haters think. In the meantime, we can all still enjoy watching one of the all-time greatest basketball players ever at work. Your grandkids will ask you about him someday.
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There's no way to say this accurately when you have no idea who any of their starting five are going to be two years from now.

The old man is gone, and Tommy Boy's in charge now. I wouldn't presume that everything's going to snap back to what it once was just because it always happened when they had a great owner.

Glad my Lakers +10 ticket cashed though.
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I hope Strike took Memphis tonight. What a loser.

 
timschochet said:
Good Posting Judge said:
timschochet said:
The Lakers will be back, much sooner than most of the haters think. In the meantime, we can all still enjoy watching one of the all-time greatest basketball players ever at work. Your grandkids will ask you about him someday.
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There's no way to say this accurately when you have no idea who any of their starting five are going to be two years from now.

The old man is gone, and Tommy Boy's in charge now. I wouldn't presume that everything's going to snap back to what it once was just because it always happened when they had a great owner.

Glad my Lakers +10 ticket cashed though.
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I hope Strike took Memphis tonight. What a loser.
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Gambling is ideally an objective exercise.

 
Dirk Nowitzki now No. 9 on all-time scoring list. He has 1,487 career made 3's.

All other 7-footers among top-50 scorers combined for 71 made 3's.

 
hey brohans the bucks just won two in a row for the first time in about a decade i think and one of those was against the grizzlers who are pretty good a d the other was the thunders but they are all banged up so big whoop but still last year they would have lost both games by about twenty or thirty points each time so hey they are coming around and they are young and maybe actually kidd is going to do good with them crazy times in brewtown take that to the bank bromigos

 
Raider Nation said:
Dirk Nowitzki now No. 9 on all-time scoring list. He has 1,487 career made 3's.

All other 7-footers among top-50 scorers combined for 71 made 3's.
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Kobe Bryant has missed more field goals than all but 95 players in the history of the NBA have taken. He may get that number down to 75 before the season is over and under 50 when he retires.

 
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Bruce Dickinson said:
Abraham said:
tommyGunZ said:
Abraham said:
tommyGunZ said:
Abraham said:
tommyGunZ said:
Doesn't Kobe have more assists than any other non-PG in NBA history?
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No.
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iIRC, he'll pass Pippen this year. Can't think of any other non-PGs with more.
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Jerry west and Clyde drexler. And lebron will pass him before thanksgiving.
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So after this year, Kobe will be 2nd all time in assists in NBA history among non-PGs. Not bad for a guy who "can't pass".
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No one is arguing that he hasn't played 18 years.
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He's going to finish the season somewhere between 12th and 15th in career games played.Kobe is 32nd on the career assists list, 6th among players who played most/all of their career at positions other than PG. If he averages 2.5 assists over a relatively full season, he's going to pass Havlicek, Drexler, and Pippen among the non-PGs. (It could be argued Pippen played PG The majority of his career, but a lot of those seasons he played the same spot Kobe did in the Tex Winter system, so it's a wash for this comparison.).

3.5 dimes over a full season and he catches Jerry West. West played some PG during his career -he led the league in assists once - but he also won a scoring title and his stat profile is similar to modern ball-control SGs.

Kobe is two full seasons away from catching Reggie Theus, and LeBron James will probably pass Kobe this season for good on the career assists list.

Among active players with at least 15000 minutes played, Kobe is 22nd in assists per game. Among non-PGs, he's behind LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, and Andre Iguodala. How well Mo Williams and Monta Ellis fit the description of "point guard" is subjective, but both have a higher APG than Kobe.
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That's a WHOLE lotta effort spent on proving a SG is a PG.

Congrats?

 
Gawain said:
Raider Nation said:
Dirk Nowitzki now No. 9 on all-time scoring list. He has 1,487 career made 3's.

All other 7-footers among top-50 scorers combined for 71 made 3's.
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Kobe Bryant has missed more field goals than all but 95 players in the history of the NBA have taken. He may get that number down to 75 before the season is over and under 50 when he retires.
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Dirk is taking 14.9 shots a game this year, Kobe is missing 14.6 shots a game.

 
Premier said:
Kobe is not being triple-teamed ( :lmao: ) and I haven't seen a ton of doubles thrown his way.

Hate to break this to you Tim, but teams want him to shoot.
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Well, that or just throw the ball away.

Lebron has about 100 fewer assists than Kobe. Lebron has about 1000 fewer turnovers than Kobe.

 
Horncats blew a 23 point lead in Portland tonight. Gary Neal made a shot at the buzzer to send the game into overtime, but replay showed that his finger was still touching the ball when the red light came on.

 
Golden State is shooting at a 55% clip, have eight TO's compared to San Antonio's sixteen, but are down by almost ten. They have one offensive rebound through three and a half quarters. They are getting just one shot at the basket each time down the floor.

 
hey brohans kobe is having a pretty good carrer for a guy who should be in jail so he has that going for him take that to the bank brochachos

 
TobiasFunke said:
Notorious T.R.E. said:
He traditionally misses between 10-13 shots per game it looks like. So I'd go Fri Nov 14 vs San Antonio -- sometime in the 2nd quarter.
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Adjusting for age and the Swaggy P factor, I'll take the 4th quarter on Sunday November 16 vs Golden State. That would also be his last chance to get it done in LA before a 3 game road trip, so you know he'll be gunning to finish the job in front of the home crowd.
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Wow. Missed it by 2-3 full games. Remarkable. He's been absolutely horrible. Jordan was better in his final year on the Wizards at age 39 than Kobe is at age 36, by a decent margin. Last season 36 year old Paul Pierce was worlds better than Kobe right now, and while Paul Pierce is a sure fire Hall of Famer and great player, even the most ridiculous Celtics fan of all time wouldn't rank him in the NBA's all-time Top 25. This is legacy-changing awfulness.

 
timschochet said:
Kobe sounds relaxed to me. He's in good spirits. He realizes he probably won't win another championship, and he can live with that. He's content to end his career for the Lakers, competing hard every night.

The Lakers will be back, much sooner than most of the haters think. In the meantime, we can all still enjoy watching one of the all-time greatest basketball players ever at work. Your grandkids will ask you about him someday.
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That's probably true. Also noteworthy is that they won't have to ask about MJ.

 
Mr. Retukes said:
Horncats blew a 23 point lead in Portland tonight. Gary Neal made a shot at the buzzer to send the game into overtime, but replay showed that his finger was still touching the ball when the red light came on.
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Sucks.

BTW, you can drop the Horncats nickname.

 
timschochet said:
Card Trader said:
Kobe is terrible. This guy can't hit a shot all season, such a terrible chucker now. Sad to see
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23 points, 6 assists, 7 rebounds, 4 steals.Guy can't do it all, but he's sure trying.
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I was hoping the Grizzlies would call a time out then have an announcement followed by a stirring montage of Kobe bricking shots on the Jumbotron when he broke the record.Why do the Memphis Grizzlies hate honoring Kobe breaking a record?

 
TobiasFunke said:
TobiasFunke said:
Notorious T.R.E. said:
He traditionally misses between 10-13 shots per game it looks like. So I'd go Fri Nov 14 vs San Antonio -- sometime in the 2nd quarter.
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Adjusting for age and the Swaggy P factor, I'll take the 4th quarter on Sunday November 16 vs Golden State. That would also be his last chance to get it done in LA before a 3 game road trip, so you know he'll be gunning to finish the job in front of the home crowd.
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Wow. Missed it by 2-3 full games. Remarkable. He's been absolutely horrible. Jordan was better in his final year on the Wizards at age 39 than Kobe is at age 36, by a decent margin. Last season 36 year old Paul Pierce was worlds better than Kobe right now, and while Paul Pierce is a sure fire Hall of Famer and great player, even the most ridiculous Celtics fan of all time wouldn't rank him in the NBA's all-time Top 25. This is legacy-changing awfulness.
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Fishing with dynamite again?

 
BassNBrew said:
The Commish said:
What an embarrassing loss for the Hornets :bag:
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You're going to see a lot of that. Double overtime win with a ton of minutes for key guys followed by a cross country plan trip. The whole Hornets buzz has to be a huge emotional lift for these guys and I expect to see them crash on the road this year. They are already 3-1 at home and 0-3 on the road.
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I'm ok with this scenario against good or even average teams. But the Lakers? Not so much. And I really hope it's just rumblings around here about trying to get Kobe back in CLT. The Hornets have worked hard to get a good nucleus and I don't want to see that destroyed for Kobe.

 
tommyGunZ said:
TobiasFunke said:
TobiasFunke said:
Notorious T.R.E. said:
He traditionally misses between 10-13 shots per game it looks like. So I'd go Fri Nov 14 vs San Antonio -- sometime in the 2nd quarter.
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Adjusting for age and the Swaggy P factor, I'll take the 4th quarter on Sunday November 16 vs Golden State. That would also be his last chance to get it done in LA before a 3 game road trip, so you know he'll be gunning to finish the job in front of the home crowd.
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Wow. Missed it by 2-3 full games. Remarkable. He's been absolutely horrible. Jordan was better in his final year on the Wizards at age 39 than Kobe is at age 36, by a decent margin. Last season 36 year old Paul Pierce was worlds better than Kobe right now, and while Paul Pierce is a sure fire Hall of Famer and great player, even the most ridiculous Celtics fan of all time wouldn't rank him in the NBA's all-time Top 25. This is legacy-changing awfulness.
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Fishing with dynamite again?
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Every word is true, my friend. Check the numbers. Only the last sentence is really in question, and that's only because legacies are weird, subjective things.

 
Cliff Clavin said:
Dondante said:
Derek Rose is an ignorant, entitled, very rich turd. Thibs and Chicago deserve much, much better than this.
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http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/444/article/p2p-81945436/

This dynamic was thrust into the forefront again after Tuesday's practice at the Advocate Center. That's when Rose, asked how he thinks he has been playing, clumsily tried to give voice to the big-picture approach that he and the organization clearly are taking this season — and rightfully so — regarding his health."I feel I've been managing myself pretty good," he said. "I know a lot of people get mad when they see me sit out. But a lot of people don't understand that when I sit out it's not because of this year. I'm thinking long term.

"I'm thinking about after I'm done with basketball, having graduations to go to, having meetings to go to. I don't want to be in my meetings all sore or be at my son's graduation all sore just because of something I did in the past. Just learning and being smart."

Cue the piling on.

Rose doesn't have the killer mentality anymore. Rose doesn't play through pain. Rose cares more about himself than the team.
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,,,

Heard some reaction on national sports radio this morning (Brandon, Tiki, & Dana on CBS), but didn't hear Rose's original quotes. Was expecting MUCH worse based on the reaction -- like a tacit admission of not caring at all about basketball or something.

 
Doug B said:
Dondante said:
Which part has you stumped?

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Nobody posted what Rose said -- wasn't common knowledge yet.
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I see. I heard his comments on Mike and Mike on the way in this morning and was very disappointed. I have always enjoyed watching him play. It's clear he's got some poor advisors and some entitlement issues (IMO). Makes me enjoy the class the Spurs exhibit that much more. I really feel bad for you Bulls fans out there. And to have this joker on the same squad as Noah? What a shame.

 
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