*NBA THREAD* Abe will be missed (9 Viewers)

[sports_fan]

Sad to see a once average player fall so far

 

[timschochet]

Kobe is trash

Yeah you keep repeating this over and over. It gets a little old.

Lakers with their second straight win. Kobe with 29 points, 5 rebounds, 7 assists, 1 steal.

 

[jamil]

Kobe is trash

Yeah you keep repeating this over and over. It gets a little old.Lakers with their second straight win. Kobe with 29 points, 5 rebounds, 7 assists, 1 steal.

On 28 shots

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Before tonight, the Lakers have been scoring 8 more points (per 100 poss) with Kobe off the court than on.

 

[Instinctive]

Wizards brought some serious physicality in the first half tonight. Really slowed down the Mavs, but they bounced back strong in the second half.

Observations:

Damn John Wall is fast. So incredibly fast.

Bradley Beal has a really pretty shot.

Brandan Wright may be the "springiest" player in the league. He goes from on the ground to arms at the top of the backboard faster than anyone else I've seen.

Al-Farouq Aminu has been wasted with bad coaches his whole career. Because his role with Dallas is perfect. Every game he gets an offensive board or two that seem impossible, and every game he jumps from behind the on-ball defender and swats the living hell out of somebody's shot attempt.

Tyson Chandler had a two handed block that looked like he was defending net at a volleyball game. It was pretty cool.

 

[thecatch]

Wizards brought some serious physicality in the first half tonight. Really slowed down the Mavs, but they bounced back strong in the second half.

Observations:

Damn John Wall is fast. So incredibly fast.

Bradley Beal has a really pretty shot.

Brandan Wright may be the "springiest" player in the league. He goes from on the ground to arms at the top of the backboard faster than anyone else I've seen.

Al-Farouq Aminu has been wasted with bad coaches his whole career. Because his role with Dallas is perfect. Every game he gets an offensive board or two that seem impossible, and every game he jumps from behind the on-ball defender and swats the living hell out of somebody's shot attempt.

Tyson Chandler had a two handed block that looked like he was defending net at a volleyball game. It was pretty cool.

Wizards would have won that one if they were competently coached. My personal favorite last night was the Kris Humphries isolation play coming out of a timeout

 

[Todem]

Leonard owns Lebron right now. Lebron's second half was dismal.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Raptors beat the league leading Grizz

Lets not mention that were missing 5 rotation guys

 

[TobiasFunke]

Wizards brought some serious physicality in the first half tonight. Really slowed down the Mavs, but they bounced back strong in the second half.

Observations:

Damn John Wall is fast. So incredibly fast.

Bradley Beal has a really pretty shot.

Brandan Wright may be the "springiest" player in the league. He goes from on the ground to arms at the top of the backboard faster than anyone else I've seen.

Al-Farouq Aminu has been wasted with bad coaches his whole career. Because his role with Dallas is perfect. Every game he gets an offensive board or two that seem impossible, and every game he jumps from behind the on-ball defender and swats the living hell out of somebody's shot attempt.

Tyson Chandler had a two handed block that looked like he was defending net at a volleyball game. It was pretty cool.

Wizards would have won that one if they were competently coached. My personal favorite last night was the Kris Humphries isolation play coming out of a timeout

The coaching disparity was stark. And frustrating, considering Witt is in the first year of a three year deal and the bar is so low in this city that a winning record will protect him.

I came away thinking the Mavs are a title contender if Chandler stays healthy. He looked re-energized back with the Mavs..They look like an older but deeper version of the 2011 champs.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Also this Varejao Vine is my new favorite thing from the season so far.

 

[thecatch]

Wizards brought some serious physicality in the first half tonight. Really slowed down the Mavs, but they bounced back strong in the second half.

Observations:

Damn John Wall is fast. So incredibly fast.

Bradley Beal has a really pretty shot.

Brandan Wright may be the "springiest" player in the league. He goes from on the ground to arms at the top of the backboard faster than anyone else I've seen.

Al-Farouq Aminu has been wasted with bad coaches his whole career. Because his role with Dallas is perfect. Every game he gets an offensive board or two that seem impossible, and every game he jumps from behind the on-ball defender and swats the living hell out of somebody's shot attempt.

Tyson Chandler had a two handed block that looked like he was defending net at a volleyball game. It was pretty cool.

Wizards would have won that one if they were competently coached. My personal favorite last night was the Kris Humphries isolation play coming out of a timeout

The coaching disparity was stark. And frustrating, considering Witt is in the first year of a three year deal and the bar is so low in this city that a winning record will protect him.

I came away thinking the Mavs are a title contender if Chandler stays healthy. He looked re-energized back with the Mavs..They look like an older but deeper version of the 2011 champs.

Not a fan of the Barea/ Nelson combo

 

[Juxtatarot]

If you were Blatt, who would be your crunch time SG? Waiters, Dellavedova, or Joe Harris?

 

[Sammy3469]

If you were Blatt, who would be your crunch time SG? Waiters, Dellavedova, or Joe Harris?

None of the Above?

Serious answer is Ray Allen or Mike Miller. They're spacing isn't right when the game gets tight.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

bucks pull it out and are a game over five hondo what do you know what do you know basketball might be fun in brewtown again take that to the bank bromigos

I don't expect the two 19 year olds to hold up as the season drags on, but they are definitely giving Bucks fans reason for hope. Unlike last year, I'd probably take some free tickets and go see them, assuming lower level.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

If you were Blatt, who would be your crunch time SG? Waiters, Dellavedova, or Joe Harris?

Whom ever is the best shooter for where they want him. If they have to do something other than catch and shoot, something has went terribly wrong.

 

[rodg12]

If you were Blatt, who would be your crunch time SG? Waiters, Dellavedova, or Joe Harris?

None of the Above?

Serious answer is Ray Allen or Mike Miller. They're spacing isn't right when the game gets tight.

Is Miller banged up or are they just trying to figure out what they have with the other guys and keeping him healthy until later in the season? I don't get him playing 11 min a game.

 

[Todem]

Also this Varejao Vine is my new favorite thing from the season so far.

All I can keep singing to myself watching that video is the "Afro Circus" bit Chris Rock sang in Madagascar 3.

Priceless.

 

[TobiasFunke]

If you were Blatt, who would be your crunch time SG? Waiters, Dellavedova, or Joe Harris?

None of the Above?

Serious answer is Ray Allen or Mike Miller. They're spacing isn't right when the game gets tight.

Is Miller banged up or are they just trying to figure out what they have with the other guys and keeping him healthy until later in the season? I don't get him playing 11 min a game.

Joe Harris can shoot. He's at 40% on this season, which is obviously a small sample size, but he was a nightmare in college too. Was at 40.7% for his college career, which, yeah, shorter line, but not by much if he's staying in the corner, plus UVa didn't have floor-spacing passer quite as good as LeBron.

 

[Bobcat10]

If you were Blatt, who would be your crunch time SG? Waiters, Dellavedova, or Joe Harris?

None of the Above?

Serious answer is Ray Allen or Mike Miller. They're spacing isn't right when the game gets tight.

Harris SHOULD be better than Miller in this situation by the Spring. Looks like he can knock down a 3 just fine. Has to be more nimble than Miller.

Delly offers the best defense and hustle, but is undersized and unreliable beyond the arc. I found it very interesting he was Blatt's first choice for this role this year.

Allen is far fetched imo, but who knows really.

Oh ya, and Waiters will be gone I think.

 

[Todem]

Wade and Deng highly doubtful tonight vs The Clippers.

 

[Sammy3469]

If you were Blatt, who would be your crunch time SG? Waiters, Dellavedova, or Joe Harris?

None of the Above?

Serious answer is Ray Allen or Mike Miller. They're spacing isn't right when the game gets tight.

Is Miller banged up or are they just trying to figure out what they have with the other guys and keeping him healthy until later in the season? I don't get him playing 11 min a game.

Joe Harris can shoot. He's at 40% on this season, which is obviously a small sample size, but he was a nightmare in college too. Was at 40.7% for his college career, which, yeah, shorter line, but not by much if he's staying in the corner, plus UVa didn't have floor-spacing passer quite as good as LeBron.

He never struck me as having NBA range in college, but as you note as long as he can stay in the corner it doesn't matter much.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

I'd probably take some free tickets and go see them, assuming lower level.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Weird rule quirk that showed up last night that I'm curious about: the Mavs throw a ton of lobs. The Wiz were twice called for fouling the potential dunker in the act of shooting when replay showed the defender was simply attempting to box out the guy for a rebound. Here's Brandon Wright destroying Kevin Seraphin for a three point play on one of these that would have been an over the back foul on Wright if the pass was considered a shot (it looked like one), and it happened earlier in the game with Chandler and Nene as well.

How are you supposed to call that? Seems like a gray area. Defenders can't possibly determine whether a soft lob at the rim is a pass or a shot until they see where it ends up. Anyone know if there's a rule here about how it's supposed to be called?

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Weird rule quirk that showed up last night that I'm curious about: the Mavs throw a ton of lobs. The Wiz were twice called for fouling the potential dunker in the act of shooting when replay showed the defender was simply attempting to box out the guy for a rebound. Here's Brandon Wright destroying Kevin Seraphin for a three point play on one of these that would have been an over the back foul on Wright if the pass was considered a shot (it looked like one), and it happened earlier in the game with Chandler and Nene as well.

How are you supposed to call that? Seems like a gray area. Defenders can't possibly determine whether a soft lob at the rim is a pass or a shot until they see where it ends up. Anyone know if there's a rule here about how it's supposed to be called?

I think that instance it would be the same type of call as running into someone receiving a pass on the wing. If Seraphin was in position first and held his ground, its an offensive foul (except he's in the circle) -- but in this case he's running into (boxing out) the offensive player receiving the pass. He just also happens to be in the air and throwing down a monster dunk.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

I'd probably take some free tickets and go see them, assuming lower level.

It sounds snooty I know, but professionals in downtown Milwaukee honestly couldn't give away Bucks tickets the past 2 seasons. I could not be bothered to waste a night watching a disinterested 15 win team play before a silent crowd (other than away fans, Heat or Bulls games). Marquette U plays in the same gym, and its a completely different experience and a very tough ticket. New owners, a new gym in 2017, and a few fresh faces may help.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Weird rule quirk that showed up last night that I'm curious about: the Mavs throw a ton of lobs. The Wiz were twice called for fouling the potential dunker in the act of shooting when replay showed the defender was simply attempting to box out the guy for a rebound. Here's Brandon Wright destroying Kevin Seraphin for a three point play on one of these that would have been an over the back foul on Wright if the pass was considered a shot (it looked like one), and it happened earlier in the game with Chandler and Nene as well.

How are you supposed to call that? Seems like a gray area. Defenders can't possibly determine whether a soft lob at the rim is a pass or a shot until they see where it ends up. Anyone know if there's a rule here about how it's supposed to be called?

I think that instance it would be the same type of call as running into someone receiving a pass on the wing. If Seraphin was in position first and held his ground, its an offensive foul (except he's in the circle) -- but in this case he's running into (boxing out) the offensive player receiving the pass. He just also happens to be in the air and throwing down a monster dunk.

Right, but if that's a shot attempt by Barea then there's either no foul or a loose ball foul for over the back, right? So given that it's impossible for a defender to determine if a running underhand throw towards the rim is a shot or a pass, what is the defender to do? Assume a pass and attempt to bat it away before it arrives, giving away two points on a goaltend if they're wrong? Or assume it's a shot and box out the incoming offensive player, risking a foul in the act of shooting?

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Weird rule quirk that showed up last night that I'm curious about: the Mavs throw a ton of lobs. The Wiz were twice called for fouling the potential dunker in the act of shooting when replay showed the defender was simply attempting to box out the guy for a rebound. Here's Brandon Wright destroying Kevin Seraphin for a three point play on one of these that would have been an over the back foul on Wright if the pass was considered a shot (it looked like one), and it happened earlier in the game with Chandler and Nene as well.

How are you supposed to call that? Seems like a gray area. Defenders can't possibly determine whether a soft lob at the rim is a pass or a shot until they see where it ends up. Anyone know if there's a rule here about how it's supposed to be called?

I think that instance it would be the same type of call as running into someone receiving a pass on the wing. If Seraphin was in position first and held his ground, its an offensive foul (except he's in the circle) -- but in this case he's running into (boxing out) the offensive player receiving the pass. He just also happens to be in the air and throwing down a monster dunk.

Right, but if that's a shot attempt by Barea then there's either no foul or a loose ball foul for over the back, right? So given that it's impossible for a defender to determine if a running underhand throw towards the rim is a shot or a pass, what is the defender to do? Assume a pass and attempt to bat it away before it arrives, giving away two points on a goaltend if they're wrong? Or assume it's a shot and box out the incoming offensive player, risking a foul in the act of shooting?

Defender is fuxored I guess.

 

[rodg12]

Weird rule quirk that showed up last night that I'm curious about: the Mavs throw a ton of lobs. The Wiz were twice called for fouling the potential dunker in the act of shooting when replay showed the defender was simply attempting to box out the guy for a rebound. Here's Brandon Wright destroying Kevin Seraphin for a three point play on one of these that would have been an over the back foul on Wright if the pass was considered a shot (it looked like one), and it happened earlier in the game with Chandler and Nene as well.

How are you supposed to call that? Seems like a gray area. Defenders can't possibly determine whether a soft lob at the rim is a pass or a shot until they see where it ends up. Anyone know if there's a rule here about how it's supposed to be called?

I think that instance it would be the same type of call as running into someone receiving a pass on the wing. If Seraphin was in position first and held his ground, its an offensive foul (except he's in the circle) -- but in this case he's running into (boxing out) the offensive player receiving the pass. He just also happens to be in the air and throwing down a monster dunk.

Right, but if that's a shot attempt by Barea then there's either no foul or a loose ball foul for over the back, right? So given that it's impossible for a defender to determine if a running underhand throw towards the rim is a shot or a pass, what is the defender to do? Assume a pass and attempt to bat it away before it arrives, giving away two points on a goaltend if they're wrong? Or assume it's a shot and box out the incoming offensive player, risking a foul in the act of shooting?

Defender has to not get in that position in the first place. Either has to rotate to the driver earlier, or not let his man get that deep. Once you're in the position Seraphin was in...you're effed. Just concede it and don't foul.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Weird rule quirk that showed up last night that I'm curious about: the Mavs throw a ton of lobs. The Wiz were twice called for fouling the potential dunker in the act of shooting when replay showed the defender was simply attempting to box out the guy for a rebound. Here's Brandon Wright destroying Kevin Seraphin for a three point play on one of these that would have been an over the back foul on Wright if the pass was considered a shot (it looked like one), and it happened earlier in the game with Chandler and Nene as well.

How are you supposed to call that? Seems like a gray area. Defenders can't possibly determine whether a soft lob at the rim is a pass or a shot until they see where it ends up. Anyone know if there's a rule here about how it's supposed to be called?

I think that instance it would be the same type of call as running into someone receiving a pass on the wing. If Seraphin was in position first and held his ground, its an offensive foul (except he's in the circle) -- but in this case he's running into (boxing out) the offensive player receiving the pass. He just also happens to be in the air and throwing down a monster dunk.

Right, but if that's a shot attempt by Barea then there's either no foul or a loose ball foul for over the back, right? So given that it's impossible for a defender to determine if a running underhand throw towards the rim is a shot or a pass, what is the defender to do? Assume a pass and attempt to bat it away before it arrives, giving away two points on a goaltend if they're wrong? Or assume it's a shot and box out the incoming offensive player, risking a foul in the act of shooting?

In every NBA game the refs choose to ignore certain actions that are technically fouls because they aren't severe enough to stop the flow of the game. In my opinion, the ref should have decided to make this such a no-call.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Weird rule quirk that showed up last night that I'm curious about: the Mavs throw a ton of lobs. The Wiz were twice called for fouling the potential dunker in the act of shooting when replay showed the defender was simply attempting to box out the guy for a rebound. Here's Brandon Wright destroying Kevin Seraphin for a three point play on one of these that would have been an over the back foul on Wright if the pass was considered a shot (it looked like one), and it happened earlier in the game with Chandler and Nene as well.

How are you supposed to call that? Seems like a gray area. Defenders can't possibly determine whether a soft lob at the rim is a pass or a shot until they see where it ends up. Anyone know if there's a rule here about how it's supposed to be called?

I think that instance it would be the same type of call as running into someone receiving a pass on the wing. If Seraphin was in position first and held his ground, its an offensive foul (except he's in the circle) -- but in this case he's running into (boxing out) the offensive player receiving the pass. He just also happens to be in the air and throwing down a monster dunk.

Right, but if that's a shot attempt by Barea then there's either no foul or a loose ball foul for over the back, right? So given that it's impossible for a defender to determine if a running underhand throw towards the rim is a shot or a pass, what is the defender to do? Assume a pass and attempt to bat it away before it arrives, giving away two points on a goaltend if they're wrong? Or assume it's a shot and box out the incoming offensive player, risking a foul in the act of shooting?

Defender has to not get in that position in the first place. Either has to rotate to the driver earlier, or not let his man get that deep. Once you're in the position Seraphin was in...you're effed. Just concede it and don't foul.

I guess. Seems like a weird little gap in the rules, though, if there isn't one applicable to this situation, where it's impossible to determine whether a pass or a shot is heading in your direction and you'll get dinged if you pick wrong. Like I said it happened twice last night, made me curious about it.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

I'd probably take some free tickets and go see them, assuming lower level.

It sounds snooty I know, but professionals in downtown Milwaukee honestly couldn't give away Bucks tickets the past 2 seasons. I could not be bothered to waste a night watching a disinterested 15 win team play before a silent crowd (other than away fans, Heat or Bulls games). Marquette U plays in the same gym, and its a completely different experience and a very tough ticket. New owners, a new gym in 2017, and a few fresh faces may help.

Sorry Cletius, wasn't having a go at you or anything. It makes perfect sense -- just made me laugh in a 'damning with faint praise' sort of way.

 

[thecatch]

Seraphin slid under him a little bit while Wright was already in the air jumping. If Seraphin starts the box out while Wright is on the ground there likely isn't a problem.

 

[mcintyre1]

Oh TimberTrolls, how would we get through these terrible seasons without you (NSFW)

 

[TobiasFunke]

Seraphin slid under him a little bit while Wright was already in the air jumping. If Seraphin starts the box out while Wright is on the ground there likely isn't a problem.

Guess that works for me, at least on that one (the other one by Chandler was even more obviously a boxout attempt, can't find the clip though). Thanks, all.

 

[Instinctive]

Wizards brought some serious physicality in the first half tonight. Really slowed down the Mavs, but they bounced back strong in the second half.

Observations:

Damn John Wall is fast. So incredibly fast.

Bradley Beal has a really pretty shot.

Brandan Wright may be the "springiest" player in the league. He goes from on the ground to arms at the top of the backboard faster than anyone else I've seen.

Al-Farouq Aminu has been wasted with bad coaches his whole career. Because his role with Dallas is perfect. Every game he gets an offensive board or two that seem impossible, and every game he jumps from behind the on-ball defender and swats the living hell out of somebody's shot attempt.

Tyson Chandler had a two handed block that looked like he was defending net at a volleyball game. It was pretty cool.

Wizards would have won that one if they were competently coached. My personal favorite last night was the Kris Humphries isolation play coming out of a timeout

The coaching disparity was stark. And frustrating, considering Witt is in the first year of a three year deal and the bar is so low in this city that a winning record will protect him.

I came away thinking the Mavs are a title contender if Chandler stays healthy. He looked re-energized back with the Mavs..They look like an older but deeper version of the 2011 champs.

Not a fan of the Barea/ Nelson combo

Jameer Nelson has far and away been the least valuable Mav so far. Do not like how much playing time he has. Really hurt us last night.

I think the most stark impact Chandler has is on attitude. Having watched a ton of these games over the years...the last couple years the Mavs would get scored on and just be happy to go score for themselves again. This year? Players are visibly upset every time they get scored on. Like, pissed off and determined not to let it happen again. Total attitude thing, and awesome to see.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Kobe is trash

Yeah you keep repeating this over and over. It gets a little old.

That does seem like it would be annoying.

 

[Village Idiot]

If I'm playing the Lakers I say let Kobe jack up as many shots as he wants.

His FG% is bad.

38.6% from the field and 28.8% from 3.

42.4% from 2 range.

Team stats are 44% from the field and 30.3% from 3.

47.2% from 2 range.

 

[EYLive]

Village Idiot, on 20 Nov 2014 - 11:04 AM, said:If I'm playing the Lakers I say let Kobe jack up as many shots as he wants.

His FG% is bad.

38.6% from the field and 28.8% from 3.

42.4% from 2 range.

Team stats are 44% from the field and 30.3% from 3.

47.2% from 2 range.

He's going to jack up shots whether you let him or not. It's not like he'll stop shooting if you play good defense. He'll end up around 40% for the year regardless.

 

[TobiasFunke]

If I'm playing the Lakers I say let Kobe jack up as many shots as he wants.

His FG% is bad.

38.6% from the field and 28.8% from 3.

42.4% from 2 range.

Team stats are 44% from the field and 30.3% from 3.

47.2% from 2 range.

Yes, but let's remember that he's making up for it with his outstanding mentoring and leadership skills and his tremendous effort on the defensive end.

 

[tommyGunZ]

If I'm playing the Lakers I say let Kobe jack up as many shots as he wants.

His FG% is bad.

38.6% from the field and 28.8% from 3.

42.4% from 2 range.

Team stats are 44% from the field and 30.3% from 3.

47.2% from 2 range.

Yes, but let's remember that he's making up for it with his outstanding mentoring and leadership skills and his tremendous effort on the defensive end.

I guess defenses should double Otto Porter and Rasual Butler as well, and let John Wall shoot all day, right?

 

[scoobus]

If you were Blatt, who would be your crunch time SG? Waiters, Dellavedova, or Joe Harris?

None of the Above?

Serious answer is Ray Allen or Mike Miller. They're spacing isn't right when the game gets tight.

Is Miller banged up or are they just trying to figure out what they have with the other guys and keeping him healthy until later in the season? I don't get him playing 11 min a game.

He's looked unbelievably bad so far on both ends of the court. Hopefully he's just getting into playing shape or whatever, but thus far he looks done. That's why he's not playing more, and that's why he isn't and shouldn't being considered to close games.

 

[TobiasFunke]

If I'm playing the Lakers I say let Kobe jack up as many shots as he wants.

His FG% is bad.

38.6% from the field and 28.8% from 3.

42.4% from 2 range.

Team stats are 44% from the field and 30.3% from 3.

47.2% from 2 range.

Yes, but let's remember that he's making up for it with his outstanding mentoring and leadership skills and his tremendous effort on the defensive end.

I guess defenses should double Otto Porter and Rasual Butler as well, and let John Wall shoot all day, right?

Not sure what that idea has to do with the previous posts, but sure. That would be wonderful.

 

[randall146]

Leonard owns Lebron right now. Lebron's second half was dismal.

Smart move by Heaters to let him go before the decline

 

[tommyGunZ]

If I'm playing the Lakers I say let Kobe jack up as many shots as he wants.

His FG% is bad.

38.6% from the field and 28.8% from 3.

42.4% from 2 range.

Team stats are 44% from the field and 30.3% from 3.

47.2% from 2 range.

Yes, but let's remember that he's making up for it with his outstanding mentoring and leadership skills and his tremendous effort on the defensive end.

I guess defenses should double Otto Porter and Rasual Butler as well, and let John Wall shoot all day, right?

Not sure what that idea has to do with the previous posts, but sure. That would be wonderful.

Porter and Butler are both shooting higher percentages than the team averages from the field and from 3, while Wall is shooting worse than the team averages from both.

Just applying the same logic Villiage Idiot used, that you seemed to agree with.

 

[SWC]

hey todem brohan are you the guy that said aaron rogers would never be anything and would get cut i just want to know if i am remembering right thanks in advance and as always take that to the bank

 

[Card Trader]

Kobe is trash

Yeah you keep repeating this over and over. It gets a little old.

Lakers with their second straight win. Kobe with 29 points, 5 rebounds, 7 assists, 1 steal.

When he stops being trash I'll stop calling him that, not only is he shooting like Hellen Keller but he plays defense like a matador.

 

[randall146]

. . . thanks in advance and as always take that to the bank

 

[thecatch]

The 1994 Warriors - Suns playoff game on NBA TV right now is way better than the TNT game.

 

[Todem]

hey todem brohan are you the guy that said aaron rogers would never be anything and would get cut i just want to know if i am remembering right thanks in advance and as always take that to the bank

I don't think so. If I did...I must have been pissed off and drunk.

I am the guy who was the biggest Chris Johnson fan boy before he was drafted and was being laughed at by just about everyone when I said he was a super star RB in the making.Same with Jamal Charles...drafted him in every dynasty league I was in in the second round of rookie drafts...and was being looked at as crazy with Larry Johnson as the lead dog. And I have made some bad calls too.....just like everyone on this board.

I touted Jared Cook......guys sucks.

Touted Lamar Miller.....now he is finally doing something.

Touted some gems, touted some bums.....we all do it.

 

[Todem]

Leonard owns Lebron right now. Lebron's second half was dismal.

Smart move by Heaters to let him go before the decline

Wish we still had him. Best player in the world.

But even they have bad games.