*NBA THREAD* Abe will be missed (8 Viewers)

[Good Posting Judge]

WTF?

Nick Young Recounts Near-Death Dolphin Encounter

Nick Young reflects on the time he was attacked by a dolphin while on vacation in Cabo San Lucas, Mexico.

I love that guy.

http://www.nba.com/video/channels/tnt_overtime/2015/02/11/20150210-inside-chuck-analytics.nba/?cid=nbacomsocial_20150211_40305906&adbid=565409610547609600&adbpl=tw&adbpr=1373313666

some extreme butthurt coming from Chuck.

The Spurs are a super-good example of how analytics don't matter.

 

[Gr00vus]

WTF?

Nick Young Recounts Near-Death Dolphin Encounter

Nick Young reflects on the time he was attacked by a dolphin while on vacation in Cabo San Lucas, Mexico.

Even dolphins know Young sucks at defense.

 

[jamil]

Barkley's point is dumb but he is correct that the rockets got better by adding Howard and Harden, not because of analytics.

They got Harden because of analytics- that motivated the trade. You can call it a no-brainer move if you like but that's a bit of revisionist history. Harden was a sixth man who wanted a max deal when he was moved- a great sixth man, but still just a sixth man. The Wizards said no to Harden for Beal because they're not forward-thinking like the Rockets and so they missed his potential. The Rockets saw it.

In any event, Barkley's point is also wrong because analytics is just a fancy word for information. More is always good. If you choose not to use it in certain ways, like say you don't want your players overthinking shot selection, so be it, but better to have it so you can make that decision than to not be in a position to choose.

It's funny cause he mentions the Heat and Spurs...

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Franchise needs to blow things up. Not looking pretty.

Arron Afflalo is more likely to be traded prior to the Feb. 19 deadline than Wilson Chandler, according to ESPN's Marc Stein.
The Nuggets are expected to be a very active team with the deadline just over a week away, and it's not surprising to hear Afflalo's name surface in trade rumors. ESPN's Ramona Shelburne reports that Denver has discussed possible deals with the Bulls, Clippers, Heat, Kings and Trail Blazers, but they may be demanding a first-round pick as compensation. Jameer Nelson and Randy Foye are also on the trade block, and anyone who owns a Nuggets player should prepare for a seismic shift in fantasy values in the coming week.
Related: Randy Foye, Wilson Chandler, Jameer Nelson

Source: Ramona Shelburne on Twitter

My money is on the team trading Afflalo for whatever they can get at the deadline, and maybe trading one of the bench players (Hickson?). They'll re-sign Arthur to a new 3 year contract in the offseason, sign their one or two first round draft picks in the offseason, end up with 15 or 20 wins by next All-Star break and decide that is the time to blow it up, but by that time everybody's value will be half of what it is now and a quarter of what it was a year ago when they should have blown it up. So, they'll end up with a mostly clean slate of contracts going into the offseason of 2016 but have no assets to show for all the legitimate players they could have traded in 2014.

I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it.

Great deal.

 

[Kev4029]

Great deal.

I'm pretty sure Abe would agree that is a fair trade for both sides.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Great deal.

I'm pretty sure Abe would agree that is a fair trade for both sides.

Get the Nugs to throw in a 1st rounder?

 

[Frostillicus]

Can't believe this Lebron/Love thing isn't working out.

 

[Kev4029]

Great deal.

I'm pretty sure Abe would agree that is a fair trade for both sides.

Get the Nugs to throw in a 1st rounder?

Which one? I would assume that the only fair pick would be this year's unprotected lottery pick which should end up in the 6-10 range.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Great deal.

I'm pretty sure Abe would agree that is a fair trade for both sides.

Get the Nugs to throw in a 1st rounder?

Which one? I would assume that the only fair pick would be this year's unprotected lottery pick which should end up in the 6-10 range.

Works for Abe and I.

 

[chet]

What is your schtick?

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Four NBA players have scored 50 points in a game and changed teams during the same season. Who are they?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

'Melo

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Yes. Carmelo Anthony is one. Not the earliest or most recent.

 

[Village Idiot]

Can't believe this Lebron/Love thing isn't working out.

Jury is still out.Shhhhh I'm originally from Cleveland don't throw stones at our glass house.

 

[Kev4029]

Four NBA players have scored 50 points in a game and changed teams during the same season. Who are they?

Just a guess...

Wilt Chamerlain

Allen Iverson

Mo Williams

Adrian Dantley

 

[Kev4029]

Being a Nuggets fan, I probably should have remembered Melo.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Four NBA players have scored 50 points in a game and changed teams during the same season. Who are they?

Just a guess...Wilt Chamerlain

Allen Iverson

Mo Williams

Adrian Dantley

Wilt and Mo are correct. Iverson and Dantley both had several 50 point games and were traded midseason, but not in the same season. Good guesses.

 

[Kev4029]

Four NBA players have scored 50 points in a game and changed teams during the same season. Who are they?

Just a guess...Wilt Chamerlain

Allen Iverson

Mo Williams

Adrian Dantley

Wilt and Mo are correct.Iverson and Dantley both had several 50 point games and were traded midseason, but not in the same season. Good guesses.

I cheated for the 4th guy that hasn't been named yet. I actually don't even remember him being traded.

ETA: Where did you hear this stat, it would take a whole day of basketball referencing to figure this out.

ETA2: Iverson had a 46, 45 and two 44 point games with the Nuggets and Sixers the year he was traded.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Four NBA players have scored 50 points in a game and changed teams during the same season. Who are they?

Just a guess...Wilt Chamerlain

Allen Iverson

Mo Williams

Adrian Dantley

Wilt and Mo are correct.Iverson and Dantley both had several 50 point games and were traded midseason, but not in the same season. Good guesses.

I cheated for the 4th guy that hasn't been named yet. I actually don't even remember him being traded.

When I saw this question posted elsewhere this morning, my guess was Mo Williams, Carmelo Anthony, Wilt Chamberlain, and Dominique Wilkins. I probably would have guessed 50 names before getting the fourth.ETA: The president of the Association for Professional Basketball Research (APBR) posted the question in social media this morning.

 

[Kev4029]

Four NBA players have scored 50 points in a game and changed teams during the same season. Who are they?

Just a guess...Wilt Chamerlain

Allen Iverson

Mo Williams

Adrian Dantley

Wilt and Mo are correct.Iverson and Dantley both had several 50 point games and were traded midseason, but not in the same season. Good guesses.

I cheated for the 4th guy that hasn't been named yet. I actually don't even remember him being traded.

When I saw this question posted elsewhere this morning, my guess was Mo Williams, Carmelo Anthony,

The only one I was sure of was Williams, pretty fresh in my memory. I must have purged as many Melo memories in my head as I could.

 

[tommyGunZ]

http://www.nba.com/video/channels/tnt_overtime/2015/02/11/20150210-inside-chuck-analytics.nba/?cid=nbacomsocial_20150211_40305906&adbid=565409610547609600&adbpl=tw&adbpr=1373313666

LOL. Barkley hits on 17.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

http://www.nba.com/video/channels/tnt_overtime/2015/02/11/20150210-inside-chuck-analytics.nba/?cid=nbacomsocial_20150211_40305906&adbid=565409610547609600&adbpl=tw&adbpr=1373313666

LOL. Barkley hits on 17.

You MATH nerds and your blackjack "charts."

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

http://www.nba.com/video/channels/tnt_overtime/2015/02/11/20150210-inside-chuck-analytics.nba/?cid=nbacomsocial_20150211_40305906&adbid=565409610547609600&adbpl=tw&adbpr=1373313666

LOL. Barkley hits on 17.

There's a story in "Dream Team" about Barkley hitting on 19 while playing blackjack at Loews Monte Carlo. He busted.

 

[Popinski]

Four NBA players have scored 50 points in a game and changed teams during the same season. Who are they?

Just a guess...Wilt Chamerlain

Allen Iverson

Mo Williams

Adrian Dantley

Wilt and Mo are correct.Iverson and Dantley both had several 50 point games and were traded midseason, but not in the same season. Good guesses.

I cheated for the 4th guy that hasn't been named yet. I actually don't even remember him being traded.

When I saw this question posted elsewhere this morning, my guess was Mo Williams, Carmelo Anthony, Wilt Chamberlain, and Dominique Wilkins. I probably would have guessed 50 names before getting the fourth.

Tony Delk? He was traded a few times and hit 50 once, although I don't remember which year it was.

 

[tommyGunZ]

http://www.nba.com/video/channels/tnt_overtime/2015/02/11/20150210-inside-chuck-analytics.nba/?cid=nbacomsocial_20150211_40305906&adbid=565409610547609600&adbpl=tw&adbpr=1373313666

LOL. Barkley hits on 17.

There's a story in "Dream Team" about Barkley hitting on 19 while playing blackjack at Loews Monte Carlo. He busted.

Can you imagine how broke he'd be today if he'd have pulled a deuce?

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Chuck would have had trouble standing on any 19 of he'd hit that one.

The best gambling story IMO from that book was the night Magic tried to cash out and the cash cage worker thought Magic was a different MJ and was told Monsieur Jordan needed to square up on about 50 racks' worth of markers before leaving.

 

[saintfool]

http://www.nba.com/video/channels/tnt_overtime/2015/02/11/20150210-inside-chuck-analytics.nba/?cid=nbacomsocial_20150211_40305906&adbid=565409610547609600&adbpl=tw&adbpr=1373313666

LOL. Barkley hits on 17.

let's remember charles as the guy who wanted to be governor of alabama. he also wants to be the GM of a NBA team too. he wonders why no franchise will take him up on the offer?

 

[Spanky24]

http://www.nba.com/video/channels/tnt_overtime/2015/02/11/20150210-inside-chuck-analytics.nba/?cid=nbacomsocial_20150211_40305906&adbid=565409610547609600&adbpl=tw&adbpr=1373313666

LOL. Barkley hits on 17.

Is it a hard or soft 17? Cause there are times you hit, even double on a soft 17.

Regardless, I don't think Chuck cares too much when he loses at the tables.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

That cage worker seems racist imo.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

That cage worker seems racist imo.

It was 1992 in Monte Carlo, years before the WTFIsMikeWearing blog was created.

 

[Instinctive]

Did Corey Brewer hit 50 earlier this year pre-trade or was that last year?

 

[Spanky24]

Did Corey Brewer hit 50 earlier this year pre-trade or was that last year?

Last year.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Did Corey Brewer hit 50 earlier this year pre-trade or was that last year?

Brewer's 50 was near the end of the season last year.The remaining one happened after the merger but before any of the Dream Team joined the Association.

 

[Todem]

Willie Burton?

 

[Peyton Marino]

http://www.nba.com/video/channels/tnt_overtime/2015/02/11/20150210-inside-chuck-analytics.nba/?cid=nbacomsocial_20150211_40305906&adbid=565409610547609600&adbpl=tw&adbpr=1373313666

LOL. Barkley hits on 17.

Is it a hard or soft 17? Cause there are times you hit, even double on a soft 17.

Regardless, I don't think Chuck cares too much when he loses at the tables.

pretty obvious from the context that it's a hard 17.

 

[No. 16]

Did anyone catch The Grantland Basketball Hour last week? Apparently that's where Simmons finished the rest of his trade value rankings. Sucks IMO. Much prefer an actual column.

 

[Popinski]

Anthony Mason "fighting for his life" after heart attack.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Damn. Didn't realize he was 48.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

T-Pups trade Mo Williams and Troy Daniels to Hornets for Gary Neal and a 2nd

and then get Adriean Payne for a future 1st.

Does this help them out?

TIA!

The Hornets? Yeah, kind of. They have a roster full of terrible shooters so bringing in a guy is just kind of a terrible shooter should help a bit... and by that I mean maybe it keeps them in the 7th seed and getting swept in the 1st round instead of dropping to the 8th seed and getting swept.

For what it's worth, which is probably not very much ... the Hornets are 12-6 in 2015 after going 3-14 in November and then 6-9 in December. I think they'd give the Raptors or Bulls a semi-decent fight, probably would win a game or two. The Cavs maybe not so much, especially if they continue to play so well that they end up in the 2 seed.

Charlotte has made Toronto their ##### over the last few years; 5 straight Ws stretching back 3 years.

Join the club. Five straight over the Wiz, too.

Who the hell are they losing to?

On the topic of making another team your #####...

 

[AAABatteries]

Hawks and Cs bored me to sleep and I wake up to Hawks lose. No complaints after what they've done but that's a horrible loss as they had complete control of what I saw. Credit to Celtics for fighting though.

 

[SWC]

you hawks better watch out you lose one and the bucks win again we are coming for your brohans take that to the what are you smokin swc bank

 

[Frostillicus]

Corey Brewer never scored 50 points in a game, don't be ridiculous.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Corey Brewer never scored 50 points in a game, don't be ridiculous.

Let's focus on the mention of the most underrated college basketball small forward of the last 50 years, Willie Burton.

 

[Frostillicus]

Corey Brewer never scored 50 points in a game, don't be ridiculous.

Let's focus on the mention of the most underrated college basketball small forward of the last 50 years, Willie Burton.

Carried that team with the mask on his face.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Anthony Mason "fighting for his life" after heart attack.

:( Mason was one of my favorite players. He was an undersized misfit from a lower mid-major who basically willed himself into becoming an NBA player. He was a 6-7 power forward who averaged 5 assists per game -- a real throwback to the old school days.

Godspeed, Mace.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Anthony Mason "fighting for his life" after heart attack.

:( Mason was one of my favorite players. He was an undersized misfit from a lower mid-major who basically willed himself into becoming an NBA player. He was a 6-7 power forward who averaged 5 assists per game -- a real throwback to the old school days.

Godspeed, Mace.

Really fun to watch him play. And an outstanding five-category roto player in mid-late 90s.

 

[mr fancypants]

Looks like Kerr is going to be able to start Klay in the all star game along with the beard.

 

[TobiasFunke]

T-Pups trade Mo Williams and Troy Daniels to Hornets for Gary Neal and a 2nd

and then get Adriean Payne for a future 1st.

Does this help them out?

TIA!

The Hornets? Yeah, kind of. They have a roster full of terrible shooters so bringing in a guy is just kind of a terrible shooter should help a bit... and by that I mean maybe it keeps them in the 7th seed and getting swept in the 1st round instead of dropping to the 8th seed and getting swept.

For what it's worth, which is probably not very much ... the Hornets are 12-6 in 2015 after going 3-14 in November and then 6-9 in December. I think they'd give the Raptors or Bulls a semi-decent fight, probably would win a game or two. The Cavs maybe not so much, especially if they continue to play so well that they end up in the 2 seed.

Charlotte has made Toronto their ##### over the last few years; 5 straight Ws stretching back 3 years.

Join the club. Five straight over the Wiz, too.

Who the hell are they losing to?

On the topic of making another team your #####...

It's not exactly news to me that the Raptors are better than the Wizards. At this point I'd say the Bucks are better than the Wizards too.

That said, it's hard to be upset about a two point loss on the road without Beal and Humphries.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Speaking of the Bucks, funny little moment here with the Greek Freak and Reggie Evans

Evans: How old are you?

Freak: 20.

Evans: 20?

Freak: [nods]

Evans: Damn ...

 

[Kev4029]

Karl and the Kings have reached an agreement for something along the lines of 4 years and $15million. I think that is a great get for the Kings. Obviously it won't make a bit of difference for this season, but with a couple roster moves this offseason, the Kings very well could be a playoff team a year from now.