need advice as commish (1 Viewer)

[dotman]

Not sure what to do here.

We're having our annual rookie draft on MFL...with a 12 hour time limit. At around 1PM today, the guy with the 2.01 timed out...immediatly I got on our message board and at 1:44pm said that I'd be going to work soon, so if he wanted me to pick someone for him, to call me and I'd get the pick put in...well I never got any calls...and I got home only to find out, that at 2:35pm, he posted who he wanted on our league message board (directly below my post) and just left it at that.

Unfortunatly some owners didn't see this, and made picks and the draft went all the way down to 2.11 since many other owners had players predrafted.

What would you do if you were commish?

 

[Fantasy Football Junkie]

Skip his pick. Way too much work to go back and change picks. He should be more involved and been aware of deadline.

 

[Red Apples]

the guy made a pick on the public message board so i say he gets that pick.

id like to know why he had to go that route but he did make a claim.

when were the other picks made before or after his claim?

 

[AnonymousBob]

There's no reason he shouldn't have done more than merely post it on a message board. However, he posted it within the limit? Depends on the type of league. In my league I'm rag on him and let him know no slack will be cut next time but I'd let his pick go through. We play for relatively small bucks (about 500), more ruthless groups may not let it fly. What type of people you play with?

 

[-OZ-]

Not sure what to do here.

We're having our annual rookie draft on MFL...with a 12 hour time limit. At around 1PM today, the guy with the 2.01 timed out...immediatly I got on our message board and at 1:44pm said that I'd be going to work soon, so if he wanted me to pick someone for him, to call me and I'd get the pick put in...well I never got any calls...and I got home only to find out, that at 2:35pm, he posted who he wanted on our league message board (directly below my post) and just left it at that.

Unfortunatly some owners didn't see this, and made picks and the draft went all the way down to 2.11 since many other owners had players predrafted.

What would you do if you were commish?

Depends on your rules, but in my leagues, when a pick times out, that owner can make a replacement pick on the board when they get a chance to. They would (presumably, I don't think we've ever had a conflict) get that player even if another team selected him after the post was made. But this is because it follows our rules. If your require something different, use that.

 

[Cunning Linguist]

waht do you mear times out immediately? Sodtware glitch?

 

[P Boy]

I'm completely confused.

Did all owners know that you were drafting at the league management site? If so, how did this guy not know that? Had he made any previous picks in the 1st at the site? Did he send anyone a message that he couldn't access the site board?

And after he was skipped and then posted at the league message board, how did not one other owner in the league see it until pick 2.11 & stop the draft or at least give fair warning to the rest of the league as to what happened? Do owners not post at all or check the message board during the draft?

Here's the real question that ought to be asked, though: Why in the middle of May are you putting a 12 hour time limit in picks? You ought to have considered going with no time limit - we just finished a 14 team, 8 round dynasty IDP rookie draft in 2 1/2 weeks. Keep the draft flowing by having an owner that makes a selection e-mail the next 2 to 3 guys on the draft list that they are up or coming up if you want to increase the speeed - we didn't, but I know from past experience that this is very effective.

In any case, what's the big hurry? It's off-season for another 2 months. Enjoy the time that the FF draft takes as league involvement during the normally dead time.

I hate to say it, but your entire league created this problem, and it was inevitable that it would happen. Now you've either got to unweave almost an entire round of the draft to honor the skipped owner's time stamped pick, or you have to screw over the skipped owner. Personally, I'd take the former over the latter, because it's the most fair, but either way someone is going to be pissed off.

 

[P Boy]

waht do you mear times out immediately? Sodtware glitch?

On league management sites like myfantasyleague.com you can set a time limit for the picks - just like the 15 minute time limit for the 1st round of the NFL draft - and then chose the option that the site will pick a player for the timed-out owner once they exceed the time limit or skip the timed-out owner and proceed with the draft.If it is a dynasty rookie draft, I believe that the only option is that the owner who exceeds the set time limit gets skipped.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

If he timed out, he timed out.

That's the rules you all agreed to when participating in the league.

If he posted on the Message Board before he timed out, he has a case to get his guy. Otherwise, if he posted after he timed out, the autopicks stand.

I'd go by the timestamp of all actions as a basis for making a ruling.

This may be a case where:

A. Your rule book may not cover this example.

B. You may have to make a tough decision - but that's why Commissioners exist.

C. Whatever you decide, explain your actions.

I would suspend the draft and make a ruling immediately. Explain yourself, what's going on, why you are doing what you are doing, and document it.

Finally:

D. Use this instance to improve your rule book. Add in message board postings and time stamps as basis for Commish rulings.

Be firm but be fair.

Good luck.

 

[TheRegulator]

waht do you mear times out immediately?  Sodtware glitch?

On league management sites like myfantasyleague.com you can set a time limit for the picks - just like the 15 minute time limit for the 1st round of the NFL draft - and then chose the option that the site will pick a player for the timed-out owner once they exceed the time limit or skip the timed-out owner and proceed with the draft.If it is a dynasty rookie draft, I believe that the only option is that the owner who exceeds the set time limit gets skipped.

a couple other tidbits....The problem with the MFL is that it then skips the pick forever and DOES NOT allow the owner to make that selection once the timer has run out. The commish must insert that pick. That is why the pick was made on the messageboard...... This wasn't a race lost to the podium or anything like that.... The pick was posted before anyone else selected.

 

[Pipes]

I'm completely confused.

Did all owners know that you were drafting at the league management site? If so, how did this guy not know that? Had he made any previous picks in the 1st at the site? Did he send anyone a message that he couldn't access the site board?

And after he was skipped and then posted at the league message board, how did not one other owner in the league see it until pick 2.11 & stop the draft or at least give fair warning to the rest of the league as to what happened? Do owners not post at all or check the message board during the draft?

Here's the real question that ought to be asked, though: Why in the middle of May are you putting a 12 hour time limit in picks? You ought to have considered going with no time limit - we just finished a 14 team, 8 round dynasty IDP rookie draft in 2 1/2 weeks. Keep the draft flowing by having an owner that makes a selection e-mail the next 2 to 3 guys on the draft list that they are up or coming up if you want to increase the speeed - we didn't, but I know from past experience that this is very effective.

In any case, what's the big hurry? It's off-season for another 2 months. Enjoy the time that the FF draft takes as league involvement during the normally dead time.

I hate to say it, but your entire league created this problem, and it was inevitable that it would happen. Now you've either got to unweave almost an entire round of the draft to honor the skipped owner's time stamped pick, or you have to screw over the skipped owner. Personally, I'd take the former over the latter, because it's the most fair, but either way someone is going to be pissed off.

No need to have a time limit in May...that's what created the problem. Most people have lives outside of fantasy football and shouldn't have to check in a couple of times in May to make a draft pick.

 

[FrostBite]

The problem here is that MFL wouldn't allow him to make his pick after he timed out. Had he been able to do that, he would have still gotten his pick in before the next owner made his pick because that owner didn't predraft.

So the owner that had his pick expire went to the leagues message board and posted his pick there (still before the 2.02 pick was made).

The fair thing to do is go back to 2.01 and start from there.

Agree with others that the draft should have started without a timer, although I'm in one league where a guy dissappeared right in the middle of a draft and hasn't drafted for 10 days and hasn't taken the time to tell anyone what the heck is going on.

 

[Thunderchicken]

The problem here is that MFL wouldn't allow him to make his pick after he timed out. Had he been able to do that, he would have still gotten his pick in before the next owner made his pick because that owner didn't predraft.

So the owner that had his pick expire went to the leagues message board and posted his pick there (still before the 2.02 pick was made).

The fair thing to do is go back to 2.01 and start from there.

Agree with others that the draft should have started without a timer, although I'm in one league where a guy dissappeared right in the middle of a draft and hasn't drafted for 10 days and hasn't taken the time to tell anyone what the heck is going on.

 

[Turf Toe killed Me]

The almighty (and banned) Pino's involved in the mess up............nuff said.

Get some

 

[WhoDat]

Seek first to understand.

We just had this same exact scenario happen in a Zealots rookie draft. A very good owner vanished and timed out. A few other picks where made but the draft eventually stopped, when the owner surfaced.

The owner had an urgent matter at work that kept him away from the site and email. More importantly, MFL has extremely unreliable communication. It is not timely nor do emails and trade offers arrive at a reliable rate. Getting into the he said, she said of emails, message board postings and league management sites is potentially risky, if you use MFL. From personal experience I know I receive some messages within seconds and others anywhere from 24-48 hours after the fact.

As it was said, people have lives outside of FF. If this was an instance of work or family, you do the right thing. You reset the picks. As they say, stuff happens. Our matter was easily resolved with a quick vote and message board dialogue. I think the finally count was 11-1 in favor of resetting the draft.

Conversely, if you find out the owner has no reasonable explanation for his absence, then make a ruling he is timed out. It is one thing to miss the pick due to a series of mature and proper actions. You reward or stand by that behavior. It is something entirely different to miss the pick because you are less than bright.

Finally, take into consideration the history of the owner. If there has never been any problems with him and he has what can be classified as a legitimate reason to have timed out, you give him the benefit of the doubt. The rest of the league should understand, if they have a general sense of maturity. If he is a repeat or habitual offender, then you make a quick yet firm ruling in favor of the league and time him out.

 

[Raptors]

Assuming your rules allow for a replacement pick to be made upon the skipped owner notifying the league of such pick, the message board post should suffice and the draft backed up to that pick. To avoid future instances like this, perhaps an email to the entire league is also in order to make missed picks?

 

[Dave Stauff]

Agree with others that the draft should have started without a timer, although I'm in one league where a guy dissappeared right in the middle of a draft and hasn't drafted for 10 days and hasn't taken the time to tell anyone what the heck is going on.

Let's all hope nothing of tragic consequence has happened in his life before we condemn him for missing a draft pick or two

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I'm completely confused.

Did all owners know that you were drafting at the league management site?  If so, how did this guy not know that?  Had he made any previous picks in the 1st at the site?  Did he send anyone a message that he couldn't access the site board?

And after he was skipped and then posted at the league message board, how did not one other owner in the league see it until pick 2.11 & stop the draft or at least give fair warning to the rest of the league as to what happened?  Do owners not post at all or check the message board during the draft?

Here's the real question that ought to be asked, though:  Why in the middle of May are you putting a 12 hour time limit in picks?  You ought to have considered going with no time limit - we just finished a 14 team, 8 round dynasty IDP rookie draft in 2 1/2 weeks.  Keep the draft flowing by having an owner that makes a selection e-mail the next 2 to 3 guys on the draft list that they are up or coming up if you want to increase the speeed - we didn't, but I know from past experience that this is very effective.

In any case, what's the big hurry?  It's off-season for another 2 months.  Enjoy the time that the FF draft takes as league involvement during the normally dead time.

I hate to say it, but your entire league created this problem, and it was inevitable that it would happen.  Now you've either got to unweave almost an entire round of the draft to honor the skipped owner's time stamped pick, or you have to screw over the skipped owner.  Personally, I'd take the former over the latter, because it's the most fair, but either way someone is going to be pissed off.

No need to have a time limit in May...that's what created the problem. Most people have lives outside of fantasy football and shouldn't have to check in a couple of times in May to make a draft pick.

Terrible posting. That's what the predraft list is for: so you DON'T have to check in every couple of hours. Why people do not predraft when they know they aren't going to be around is beyond me.

 

[Pipes]

I'm completely confused.

Did all owners know that you were drafting at the league management site?  If so, how did this guy not know that?  Had he made any previous picks in the 1st at the site?  Did he send anyone a message that he couldn't access the site board?

And after he was skipped and then posted at the league message board, how did not one other owner in the league see it until pick 2.11 & stop the draft or at least give fair warning to the rest of the league as to what happened?  Do owners not post at all or check the message board during the draft?

Here's the real question that ought to be asked, though:  Why in the middle of May are you putting a 12 hour time limit in picks?  You ought to have considered going with no time limit - we just finished a 14 team, 8 round dynasty IDP rookie draft in 2 1/2 weeks.  Keep the draft flowing by having an owner that makes a selection e-mail the next 2 to 3 guys on the draft list that they are up or coming up if you want to increase the speeed - we didn't, but I know from past experience that this is very effective.

In any case, what's the big hurry?  It's off-season for another 2 months.  Enjoy the time that the FF draft takes as league involvement during the normally dead time.

I hate to say it, but your entire league created this problem, and it was inevitable that it would happen.  Now you've either got to unweave almost an entire round of the draft to honor the skipped owner's time stamped pick, or you have to screw over the skipped owner.  Personally, I'd take the former over the latter, because it's the most fair, but either way someone is going to be pissed off.

No need to have a time limit in May...that's what created the problem. Most people have lives outside of fantasy football and shouldn't have to check in a couple of times in May to make a draft pick.

Terrible posting. That's what the predraft list is for: so you DON'T have to check in every couple of hours. Why people do not predraft when they know they aren't going to be around is beyond me.

It's friggen MAY!!! The season doesn't start for 4 months. Man some of you need to get lives. Predraft in May....LMFAO

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I'm completely confused.

Did all owners know that you were drafting at the league management site?  If so, how did this guy not know that?  Had he made any previous picks in the 1st at the site?  Did he send anyone a message that he couldn't access the site board?

And after he was skipped and then posted at the league message board, how did not one other owner in the league see it until pick 2.11 & stop the draft or at least give fair warning to the rest of the league as to what happened?  Do owners not post at all or check the message board during the draft?

Here's the real question that ought to be asked, though:  Why in the middle of May are you putting a 12 hour time limit in picks?  You ought to have considered going with no time limit - we just finished a 14 team, 8 round dynasty IDP rookie draft in 2 1/2 weeks.  Keep the draft flowing by having an owner that makes a selection e-mail the next 2 to 3 guys on the draft list that they are up or coming up if you want to increase the speeed - we didn't, but I know from past experience that this is very effective.

In any case, what's the big hurry?  It's off-season for another 2 months.  Enjoy the time that the FF draft takes as league involvement during the normally dead time.

I hate to say it, but your entire league created this problem, and it was inevitable that it would happen.  Now you've either got to unweave almost an entire round of the draft to honor the skipped owner's time stamped pick, or you have to screw over the skipped owner.  Personally, I'd take the former over the latter, because it's the most fair, but either way someone is going to be pissed off.

No need to have a time limit in May...that's what created the problem. Most people have lives outside of fantasy football and shouldn't have to check in a couple of times in May to make a draft pick.

Terrible posting. That's what the predraft list is for: so you DON'T have to check in every couple of hours. Why people do not predraft when they know they aren't going to be around is beyond me.

It's friggen MAY!!! The season doesn't start for 4 months. Man some of you need to get lives. Predraft in May....LMFAO

Okay. So you don't want owners to have to check in once or twice a day during the draft, because, you know, it's too much of a bother. And now you don't want owners to have to predraft. I would go insane in a league full of owners like that. That's not meant as a crack on you, because it's cool if a bunch of guys want to have a laid-back league, but that's not me. This is the kind of thing that really shows how important it is to have a good match among owners.

 

[Maelstrom]

I think the fact that he posted his pick prior to anyone else picking (and the fact that MFL doesn't let you make your pick after you time out), means that you should start back with that pick.

In our league, if you are skipped, you can post you pick, but you lose any rights to anyone picked between the time you are skipped and you post your pick. Kinda like the Vikings a couple years ago - they slid down, but don't lose their pick, and once a pick is made, it stands where it was made, time wise.

Which means, since he was the first one to post a pick after being skipped, he lucks out and gets his pick. Sucks to redo the rest of the round, but it is May and so there is plenty of time.

 

[mike11162]

The owner that had his pick skipped should get the player he asked for in his post based on who was still available, no matter what his reason was for missing his pick. This is the same thing as when the Vikings missed their pick in the draft a couple years ago. The next team got the opportunity to pick their player but the Vikings got the opportunity to turn in their pick whenever it was ready. If anyone was picked before his time stamped message post, then that was his penalty for being late with his pick; otherwise, it was simply late. The software limitation was the only thing stopping him from making the pick himself. This would be analogous to the Vikings having turned in their card and the commissioner not announcing their pick until after the next few teams picked, even though they turned in their card first.

So give the owner the player he asked for in his post (assuming he was still on the board at the time stamp of the post) and revert the draft back as needed.

 

[mike11162]

Okay. So you don't want owners to have to check in once or twice a day during the draft, because, you know, it's too much of a bother. And now you don't want owners to have to predraft.

I would go insane in a league full of owners like that. That's not meant as a crack on you, because it's cool if a bunch of guys want to have a laid-back league, but that's not me. This is the kind of thing that really shows how important it is to have a good match among owners.

Well, the only thing I will add is what if an owner works a 12 hour shift, or say he's a fireman and works a 24 hour shift like most firemen do? And say he got called in for an emergency and didn't have time to post or send an email about his situation? Or any type of similar profession. There's other situations that can happen without notice where someone might not be able to access their internet, like power failure caused by bad weather (I live in the hurricane belt of 2004, so believe me I know this lol) or accident (this happened on my street a couple months ago lol). Don't know what the situation was with the owner missing the pick, but stuff happens and it's not always because an owner is just inconsiderate.

 

[The Jerk]

I'm completely confused.

Did all owners know that you were drafting at the league management site?  If so, how did this guy not know that?  Had he made any previous picks in the 1st at the site?  Did he send anyone a message that he couldn't access the site board?

And after he was skipped and then posted at the league message board, how did not one other owner in the league see it until pick 2.11 & stop the draft or at least give fair warning to the rest of the league as to what happened?  Do owners not post at all or check the message board during the draft?

Here's the real question that ought to be asked, though:  Why in the middle of May are you putting a 12 hour time limit in picks?  You ought to have considered going with no time limit - we just finished a 14 team, 8 round dynasty IDP rookie draft in 2 1/2 weeks.  Keep the draft flowing by having an owner that makes a selection e-mail the next 2 to 3 guys on the draft list that they are up or coming up if you want to increase the speeed - we didn't, but I know from past experience that this is very effective.

In any case, what's the big hurry?  It's off-season for another 2 months.  Enjoy the time that the FF draft takes as league involvement during the normally dead time.

I hate to say it, but your entire league created this problem, and it was inevitable that it would happen.  Now you've either got to unweave almost an entire round of the draft to honor the skipped owner's time stamped pick, or you have to screw over the skipped owner.  Personally, I'd take the former over the latter, because it's the most fair, but either way someone is going to be pissed off.

No need to have a time limit in May...that's what created the problem. Most people have lives outside of fantasy football and shouldn't have to check in a couple of times in May to make a draft pick.

Terrible posting. That's what the predraft list is for: so you DON'T have to check in every couple of hours. Why people do not predraft when they know they aren't going to be around is beyond me.

It's friggen MAY!!! The season doesn't start for 4 months. Man some of you need to get lives. Predraft in May....LMFAO

Okay. So you don't want owners to have to check in once or twice a day during the draft, because, you know, it's too much of a bother. And now you don't want owners to have to predraft. I would go insane in a league full of owners like that. That's not meant as a crack on you, because it's cool if a bunch of guys want to have a laid-back league, but that's not me. This is the kind of thing that really shows how important it is to have a good match among owners.

I am a Commissioner and I would make sure that the draft pick was given to the owner who barely missed the time limit. Clearly there is enough time for the draft to complete before the season begins, so re-doing one round of the draft isn't a big problem, and I don't think any significant competive advantage is gained or that there was complete absenteeism by the owner. More importantly, you can poison a league by being completely inflexible on rules, especially if there is some wiggle room as I perceive there to be in this case. However, the league rules should be updated and made very clear on both procedure and penalty going forward from this point in time.I agree that having similar perspectives and intensity across owners is a good idea, but most leagues still end up with some range of personality type in it. In a highly competitive league made up of former college buddies, I ended up losing in last year's semifinal to a team that should not have advanced in their quarterfinal game. I'll spare you the details, but it came down to two owners and the Commissioners not being active enough to avoid an unusual but simple problem. And this was in the playoffs!

So you have two choices as an owner in a league like this. You can yell and scream and quit the league, or you can try to remember that there is more than just winning and losing. There is something to be said for friendship and class. In my case, no one was getting an unfair advantage, although I will always remember that I lost the championship on a technicality. So what? I enjoy the competition and the people involved. While I take it very seriously, there is more to life than fantasy football. You need to keep perspective in situations like these.

 

[md8]

I'm completely confused.

Did all owners know that you were drafting at the league management site?  If so, how did this guy not know that?  Had he made any previous picks in the 1st at the site?  Did he send anyone a message that he couldn't access the site board?

And after he was skipped and then posted at the league message board, how did not one other owner in the league see it until pick 2.11 & stop the draft or at least give fair warning to the rest of the league as to what happened?  Do owners not post at all or check the message board during the draft?

Here's the real question that ought to be asked, though:  Why in the middle of May are you putting a 12 hour time limit in picks?  You ought to have considered going with no time limit - we just finished a 14 team, 8 round dynasty IDP rookie draft in 2 1/2 weeks.  Keep the draft flowing by having an owner that makes a selection e-mail the next 2 to 3 guys on the draft list that they are up or coming up if you want to increase the speeed - we didn't, but I know from past experience that this is very effective.

In any case, what's the big hurry?  It's off-season for another 2 months.  Enjoy the time that the FF draft takes as league involvement during the normally dead time.

I hate to say it, but your entire league created this problem, and it was inevitable that it would happen.  Now you've either got to unweave almost an entire round of the draft to honor the skipped owner's time stamped pick, or you have to screw over the skipped owner.  Personally, I'd take the former over the latter, because it's the most fair, but either way someone is going to be pissed off.

No need to have a time limit in May...that's what created the problem. Most people have lives outside of fantasy football and shouldn't have to check in a couple of times in May to make a draft pick.

Terrible posting. That's what the predraft list is for: so you DON'T have to check in every couple of hours. Why people do not predraft when they know they aren't going to be around is beyond me.

It's friggen MAY!!! The season doesn't start for 4 months. Man some of you need to get lives. Predraft in May....LMFAO

Okay. So you don't want owners to have to check in once or twice a day during the draft, because, you know, it's too much of a bother. And now you don't want owners to have to predraft. I would go insane in a league full of owners like that. That's not meant as a crack on you, because it's cool if a bunch of guys want to have a laid-back league, but that's not me. This is the kind of thing that really shows how important it is to have a good match among owners.

Yeah I couldn't stand to be in a league where owners were taking days to make a pick. Taking 12 hours is long enough

 

[radballs]

I agree with the Jerk and others that he should get to keep his pick. What I really question is why the other people just continued to keep on picking when it was apparent that he made an effort to post his pick on the league message board. That seems kind of lame unless nobody was checking the message board. Still, this is a no brainer imo to let him get his guy.

 

[SSOG]

As I see it, this is what happened.

2.01 timed out, but got in the selection before 2.02

2.02 didn't see the pick and drafted.

2.03-2.10 autodrafted

2.11 stopped, and the situation was realized.

Is that it? If that is, I don't see what the problem is. Reset the picks, give 2.01 the guy he posted requesting, let 2.02 pick, and then let autodraft handle picks 2.03-2.10 all over again. Really, there's only one owner even inconvenienced (2.02).

If there were multiple manual picks in that string of auto-picks, then it becomes messier, but the fact remains that you *HAVE* to reset the picks. 2.01 posted his selection before anyone else, so the selection is his.

 

[Red Apples]

As I see it, this is what happened.

2.01 timed out, but got in the selection before 2.02

2.02 didn't see the pick and drafted.

2.03-2.10 autodrafted

2.11 stopped, and the situation was realized.

Is that it? If that is, I don't see what the problem is. Reset the picks, give 2.01 the guy he posted requesting, let 2.02 pick, and then let autodraft handle picks 2.03-2.10 all over again. Really, there's only one owner even inconvenienced (2.02).

If there were multiple manual picks in that string of auto-picks, then it becomes messier, but the fact remains that you *HAVE* to reset the picks. 2.01 posted his selection before anyone else, so the selection is his.

 

[DropKick]

The owner that had his pick skipped should get the player he asked for in his post based on who was still available, no matter what his reason was for missing his pick. This is the same thing as when the Vikings missed their pick in the draft a couple years ago. The next team got the opportunity to pick their player but the Vikings got the opportunity to turn in their pick whenever it was ready. If anyone was picked before his time stamped message post, then that was his penalty for being late with his pick; otherwise, it was simply late. The software limitation was the only thing stopping him from making the pick himself. This would be analogous to the Vikings having turned in their card and the commissioner not announcing their pick until after the next few teams picked, even though they turned in their card first.

So give the owner the player he asked for in his post (assuming he was still on the board at the time stamp of the post) and revert the draft back as needed.

Agreed.I find the 12 hour limit hilarious this time of year. Ok, I'm on the clock at 1:00 AM? Hmmm... From bed to work and no time to play a game? Oh, the humanity!

 

[mike11162]

The owner that had his pick skipped should get the player he asked for in his post based on who was still available, no matter what his reason was for missing his pick. This is the same thing as when the Vikings missed their pick in the draft a couple years ago. The next team got the opportunity to pick their player but the Vikings got the opportunity to turn in their pick whenever it was ready. If anyone was picked before his time stamped message post, then that was his penalty for being late with his pick; otherwise, it was simply late. The software limitation was the only thing stopping him from making the pick himself. This would be analogous to the Vikings having turned in their card and the commissioner not announcing their pick until after the next few teams picked, even though they turned in their card first.

So give the owner the player he asked for in his post (assuming he was still on the board at the time stamp of the post) and revert the draft back as needed.

Agreed.I find the 12 hour limit hilarious this time of year. Ok, I'm on the clock at 1:00 AM? Hmmm... From bed to work and no time to play a game? Oh, the humanity!

Another thing is this is said to be a dynasty ROOKIE draft. Now I don't know the parameters of this league, whether it's a pure dynasty or has some type of salary cap or contract system, and how many picks they have, IDP or not, etc. but odds are there aren't more than 3-5 rookie rounds, so why the need for a 12 hour time clock in May? I could see maybe if you were doing this a week or two before the season but not now. Not ripping on the commish, it was probably an honest mistake about the time judgement, so fix the problem and move on.

 

[coolnerd]

The owner that had his pick skipped should get the player he asked for in his post based on who was still available, no matter what his reason was for missing his pick. This is the same thing as when the Vikings missed their pick in the draft a couple years ago. The next team got the opportunity to pick their player but the Vikings got the opportunity to turn in their pick whenever it was ready. If anyone was picked before his time stamped message post, then that was his penalty for being late with his pick; otherwise, it was simply late. The software limitation was the only thing stopping him from making the pick himself. This would be analogous to the Vikings having turned in their card and the commissioner not announcing their pick until after the next few teams picked, even though they turned in their card first.

So give the owner the player he asked for in his post (assuming he was still on the board at the time stamp of the post) and revert the draft back as needed.

Agreed.I find the 12 hour limit hilarious this time of year. Ok, I'm on the clock at 1:00 AM? Hmmm... From bed to work and no time to play a game? Oh, the humanity!

Another thing is this is said to be a dynasty ROOKIE draft. Now I don't know the parameters of this league, whether it's a pure dynasty or has some type of salary cap or contract system, and how many picks they have, IDP or not, etc. but odds are there aren't more than 3-5 rookie rounds, so why the need for a 12 hour time clock in May? I could see maybe if you were doing this a week or two before the season but not now. Not ripping on the commish, it was probably an honest mistake about the time judgement, so fix the problem and move on.

I can see some definate differences in league personalities. All of leagues I participate have some version of a "clock" for rookie drafts. One is 24 hours and the other 12 hours with some at least 6 hour of late nigh sleep time. In two specifically the rookie drafts were finished in under 48 hours. Getting the draft finished was the most "humane" and time considerate thing we could do.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I find the 12 hour limit hilarious this time of year. Ok, I'm on the clock at 1:00 AM? Hmmm... From bed to work and no time to play a game? Oh, the humanity!

You obviously don't understand the concept of a 12 hour timer.