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Neighbor dumping his grass clippings (1 Viewer)

It's a private course so these ******** are trespassing, too.
Problem is, a lot of these are neighbors and friends with my wife.
So are these club members (neighbors) or random people out for a stroll? I would think if they are club members there is an easy solution of reporting them to the club. If they are randoms, can you call the cops?

I get the wife doesn't want to ruffle feathers but this is serious issue of damaging property. It's not just a joke.
They're almost all not club members (if they were, I'd actually be okay with that as it's an equity club and if they want to walk on the course and not be in the way they should be able to) but non-members who live on the course or vacation renters renting a home on the course.

I'm on my club's board. This has been an ongoing issue and we have tried law enforcement in the past but they really don't want to do anything. In fairness, they probably do have better things to be doing as this is perhaps the quintessential 1% percenter problem.

Problem is, because everybody has thrown their hands up and nothing is done, the walkers feel emboldened. A couple of years ago after I yelled at walkers to move from the path in the middle of the fairway and then hit, they had the audacity to yell at me for almost hitting them and that I should have waited (this was on hole 18 and I was trying to get the round in).

Drives me nuts and bothers me enough to make these rants. Because apparently I'm old now. :bag:
I mean the only reasonable reaction here is **** those people
I assume this would be any golfer's take. For a non-golfer though, apparently I'm the old men yelling at teenagers on his lawn.
I ran this by my wife, and her reaction was "why would you walk on a golf course, especially with a dog? Isn't that dangerous and not allowed?"
 
Part of me wants to rat him out, but I haven’t.
the other part of you should sleep with his wife.
Hilarious. Guy has a problem with gras clippings and the board wants him to move to adultery as the solution. Chatgpt checks out as good advice. Ha ha
New here?

15plus year shtick with the "sleep with his wife" comment. I think dating back to the Man in the Yellow Hat's thread?
Where did that guy go?
 
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It's a private course so these ******** are trespassing, too.
Problem is, a lot of these are neighbors and friends with my wife.
So are these club members (neighbors) or random people out for a stroll? I would think if they are club members there is an easy solution of reporting them to the club. If they are randoms, can you call the cops?

I get the wife doesn't want to ruffle feathers but this is serious issue of damaging property. It's not just a joke.
They're almost all not club members (if they were, I'd actually be okay with that as it's an equity club and if they want to walk on the course and not be in the way they should be able to) but non-members who live on the course or vacation renters renting a home on the course.

I'm on my club's board. This has been an ongoing issue and we have tried law enforcement in the past but they really don't want to do anything. In fairness, they probably do have better things to be doing as this is perhaps the quintessential 1% percenter problem.

Problem is, because everybody has thrown their hands up and nothing is done, the walkers feel emboldened. A couple of years ago after I yelled at walkers to move from the path in the middle of the fairway and then hit, they had the audacity to yell at me for almost hitting them and that I should have waited (this was on hole 18 and I was trying to get the round in).

Drives me nuts and bothers me enough to make these rants. Because apparently I'm old now. :bag:
I mean the only reasonable reaction here is **** those people
I assume this would be any golfer's take. For a non-golfer though, apparently I'm the old men yelling at teenagers on his lawn.
I ran this by my wife, and her reaction was "why would you walk on a golf course, especially with a dog? Isn't that dangerous and not allowed?"
The first why is simple - the course is heavily lined with homes abutting the course and it's in a nice residential neighborhood so the walking paths, the manicured grass, etc. are fantastic for dog walkers and super convenient if you live on or near the course. I imagine if I were a dog being able to run on an open, manicured grass area would be awesome compared to the general limited options in an urban community. Personally, I have a four hole loop where I'll jog on the cart path some early mornings before play starts and I feel fine doing that as I am an equity member of the course and am not impacting play at all. So, I get the attraction and the allure especially with those who believe their dogs take the utmost priority of using the course as a great spot to walk your dog.

The "isn't that dangerous and not allowed?" question is incredibly fair and the source of my frustration. It's also literally criminal trespassing for those who aren't equity members . But people are selfish and stupid and, in my life experience, wholly irrational when it comes to their pets. So, I just get to be angry every night and look like the angry old man when I get annoyed that my course which I care a lot about turns into a ****ing dog park and golfers are expected to cater to them as if it were an actual dog park.
 
Part of me wants to rat him out, but I haven’t.
the other part of you should sleep with his wife.
Hilarious. Guy has a problem with gras clippings and the board wants him to move to adultery as the solution. Chatgpt checks out as good advice. Ha ha
New here?

15plus year shtick with the "sleep with his wife" comment. I think dating back to the Man in the Yellow Hat's thread?
Wher did that guy go?
Hopefully to sleep with the other guy's wife.
 
So, I just get to be angry every night and look like the angry old man when I get annoyed that my course which I care a lot about turns into a ****ing dog park and golfers are expected to cater to them as if it were an actual dog park.
Next time you get angry like this.....find the nearest dog park, take your clubs over there, and start teeing off at the patrons and see how they like it.
 
So, I just get to be angry every night and look like the angry old man when I get annoyed that my course which I care a lot about turns into a ****ing dog park and golfers are expected to cater to them as if it were an actual dog park.
Next time you get angry like this.....find the nearest dog park, take your clubs over there, and start teeing off at the patrons and see how they like it.
Oh, that was literally my threat to the group two weeks ago. Our city actually has a beautiful walking route at the base of the mountain that is an ideal loop for a dog walker so my standard, sarcastic line is, "You know, you guys walk here and I'll head over to [insert name of beautiful walking path/park] and hit wedges. That cool?"
 
It's a private course so these ******** are trespassing, too.
Problem is, a lot of these are neighbors and friends with my wife.
So are these club members (neighbors) or random people out for a stroll? I would think if they are club members there is an easy solution of reporting them to the club. If they are randoms, can you call the cops?

I get the wife doesn't want to ruffle feathers but this is serious issue of damaging property. It's not just a joke.
They're almost all not club members (if they were, I'd actually be okay with that as it's an equity club and if they want to walk on the course and not be in the way they should be able to) but non-members who live on the course or vacation renters renting a home on the course.

I'm on my club's board. This has been an ongoing issue and we have tried law enforcement in the past but they really don't want to do anything. In fairness, they probably do have better things to be doing as this is perhaps the quintessential 1% percenter problem.

Problem is, because everybody has thrown their hands up and nothing is done, the walkers feel emboldened. A couple of years ago after I yelled at walkers to move from the path in the middle of the fairway and then hit, they had the audacity to yell at me for almost hitting them and that I should have waited (this was on hole 18 and I was trying to get the round in).

Drives me nuts and bothers me enough to make these rants. Because apparently I'm old now. :bag:
I mean the only reasonable reaction here is **** those people
I assume this would be any golfer's take. For a non-golfer though, apparently I'm the old men yelling at teenagers on his lawn.
I ran this by my wife, and her reaction was "why would you walk on a golf course, especially with a dog? Isn't that dangerous and not allowed?"
The first why is simple - the course is heavily lined with homes abutting the course and it's in a nice residential neighborhood so the walking paths, the manicured grass, etc. are fantastic for dog walkers and super convenient if you live on or near the course. I imagine if I were a dog being able to run on an open, manicured grass area would be awesome compared to the general limited options in an urban community. Personally, I have a four hole loop where I'll jog on the cart path some early mornings before play starts and I feel fine doing that as I am an equity member of the course and am not impacting play at all. So, I get the attraction and the allure especially with those who believe their dogs take the utmost priority of using the course as a great spot to walk your dog.

The "isn't that dangerous and not allowed?" question is incredibly fair and the source of my frustration. It's also literally criminal trespassing for those who aren't equity members . But people are selfish and stupid and, in my life experience, wholly irrational when it comes to their pets. So, I just get to be angry every night and look like the angry old man when I get annoyed that my course which I care a lot about turns into a ****ing dog park and golfers are expected to cater to them as if it were an actual dog park.
Yeah i mean I'd be getting trespass signs put up, paying for a couple cameras myself, and trying to pursue charges from local LEOs. It's ********.

My point was just - it's not only because you play golf. These people are self indulgent wieners who think having dog means they can do whatever they want.
 
It's a private course so these ******** are trespassing, too.
Problem is, a lot of these are neighbors and friends with my wife.
So are these club members (neighbors) or random people out for a stroll? I would think if they are club members there is an easy solution of reporting them to the club. If they are randoms, can you call the cops?

I get the wife doesn't want to ruffle feathers but this is serious issue of damaging property. It's not just a joke.
They're almost all not club members (if they were, I'd actually be okay with that as it's an equity club and if they want to walk on the course and not be in the way they should be able to) but non-members who live on the course or vacation renters renting a home on the course.

I'm on my club's board. This has been an ongoing issue and we have tried law enforcement in the past but they really don't want to do anything. In fairness, they probably do have better things to be doing as this is perhaps the quintessential 1% percenter problem.

Problem is, because everybody has thrown their hands up and nothing is done, the walkers feel emboldened. A couple of years ago after I yelled at walkers to move from the path in the middle of the fairway and then hit, they had the audacity to yell at me for almost hitting them and that I should have waited (this was on hole 18 and I was trying to get the round in).

Drives me nuts and bothers me enough to make these rants. Because apparently I'm old now. :bag:
I mean the only reasonable reaction here is **** those people
I assume this would be any golfer's take. For a non-golfer though, apparently I'm the old men yelling at teenagers on his lawn.
I ran this by my wife, and her reaction was "why would you walk on a golf course, especially with a dog? Isn't that dangerous and not allowed?"
The first why is simple - the course is heavily lined with homes abutting the course and it's in a nice residential neighborhood so the walking paths, the manicured grass, etc. are fantastic for dog walkers and super convenient if you live on or near the course. I imagine if I were a dog being able to run on an open, manicured grass area would be awesome compared to the general limited options in an urban community. Personally, I have a four hole loop where I'll jog on the cart path some early mornings before play starts and I feel fine doing that as I am an equity member of the course and am not impacting play at all. So, I get the attraction and the allure especially with those who believe their dogs take the utmost priority of using the course as a great spot to walk your dog.

The "isn't that dangerous and not allowed?" question is incredibly fair and the source of my frustration. It's also literally criminal trespassing for those who aren't equity members . But people are selfish and stupid and, in my life experience, wholly irrational when it comes to their pets. So, I just get to be angry every night and look like the angry old man when I get annoyed that my course which I care a lot about turns into a ****ing dog park and golfers are expected to cater to them as if it were an actual dog park.
Yeah i mean I'd be getting trespass signs put up, paying for a couple cameras myself, and trying to pursue charges from local LEOs. It's ********.

My point was just - it's not only because you play golf. These people are self indulgent wieners who think having dog means they can do whatever they want.
PREACH!

This past February or March, I even had to deal with some guy who two days in a row came on to my actual property from the path to use my kids' ninja warrior obstacle course thingy. First day I was so amazed it was happening and home by myself I just didn't do anything. Second day, when he came back, I went outside and pretty politely said, "Can I help you?" He paused, and then said, "No... my kids just want to play on that [point to the ninja warrior thing clearly on my private backyard." Before I could say anything further his unleashed dog came running at me (I was standing in the doorframe of our sliding glass door, so I had to back inside). I just said, "please call your dog!" He did so, then proceeded to stand there so his kids could play on my playset thingy. I said, "hey!" and gave him a shrug. He realized I was implying he should leave so his response was to call me an ******* and let one of the kids finish the circuit before leaving.

I knew moving onto a golf course would reduce some expectation of privacy but I totally underestimated human stupidity and selfishness when doing so.
 
It's a private course so these ******** are trespassing, too.
Problem is, a lot of these are neighbors and friends with my wife.
So are these club members (neighbors) or random people out for a stroll? I would think if they are club members there is an easy solution of reporting them to the club. If they are randoms, can you call the cops?

I get the wife doesn't want to ruffle feathers but this is serious issue of damaging property. It's not just a joke.
They're almost all not club members (if they were, I'd actually be okay with that as it's an equity club and if they want to walk on the course and not be in the way they should be able to) but non-members who live on the course or vacation renters renting a home on the course.

I'm on my club's board. This has been an ongoing issue and we have tried law enforcement in the past but they really don't want to do anything. In fairness, they probably do have better things to be doing as this is perhaps the quintessential 1% percenter problem.

Problem is, because everybody has thrown their hands up and nothing is done, the walkers feel emboldened. A couple of years ago after I yelled at walkers to move from the path in the middle of the fairway and then hit, they had the audacity to yell at me for almost hitting them and that I should have waited (this was on hole 18 and I was trying to get the round in).

Drives me nuts and bothers me enough to make these rants. Because apparently I'm old now. :bag:
I mean the only reasonable reaction here is **** those people
I assume this would be any golfer's take. For a non-golfer though, apparently I'm the old men yelling at teenagers on his lawn.
I ran this by my wife, and her reaction was "why would you walk on a golf course, especially with a dog? Isn't that dangerous and not allowed?"
The first why is simple - the course is heavily lined with homes abutting the course and it's in a nice residential neighborhood so the walking paths, the manicured grass, etc. are fantastic for dog walkers and super convenient if you live on or near the course. I imagine if I were a dog being able to run on an open, manicured grass area would be awesome compared to the general limited options in an urban community. Personally, I have a four hole loop where I'll jog on the cart path some early mornings before play starts and I feel fine doing that as I am an equity member of the course and am not impacting play at all. So, I get the attraction and the allure especially with those who believe their dogs take the utmost priority of using the course as a great spot to walk your dog.

The "isn't that dangerous and not allowed?" question is incredibly fair and the source of my frustration. It's also literally criminal trespassing for those who aren't equity members . But people are selfish and stupid and, in my life experience, wholly irrational when it comes to their pets. So, I just get to be angry every night and look like the angry old man when I get annoyed that my course which I care a lot about turns into a ****ing dog park and golfers are expected to cater to them as if it were an actual dog park.
Yeah i mean I'd be getting trespass signs put up, paying for a couple cameras myself, and trying to pursue charges from local LEOs. It's ********.

My point was just - it's not only because you play golf. These people are self indulgent wieners who think having dog means they can do whatever they want.
PREACH!

This past February or March, I even had to deal with some guy who two days in a row came on to my actual property from the path to use my kids' ninja warrior obstacle course thingy. First day I was so amazed it was happening and home by myself I just didn't do anything. Second day, when he came back, I went outside and pretty politely said, "Can I help you?" He paused, and then said, "No... my kids just want to play on that [point to the ninja warrior thing clearly on my private backyard." Before I could say anything further his unleashed dog came running at me (I was standing in the doorframe of our sliding glass door, so I had to back inside). I just said, "please call your dog!" He did so, then proceeded to stand there so his kids could play on my playset thingy. I said, "hey!" and gave him a shrug. He realized I was implying he should leave so his response was to call me an ******* and let one of the kids finish the circuit before leaving.

I knew moving onto a golf course would reduce some expectation of privacy but I totally underestimated human stupidity and selfishness when doing so.
Some people just suck.

We live by SMU. 99% of the time it's never an issue. Some neighbors have moved, rent to a group of students, and it's kind of an awesome way to keep a house and turn it into income. Love it.

But any time one of the renting groups fully graduates and it turns over, without fail, the new ones who move in park cars on both sides of the street. It's not the widest street. You can only park on one side. There are signs. It's annoying, especially at night.

So we've reached the point where in a week or two when the new tenants come in and this inevitably happens, we drop off a care/welcome package with a nice note that also says "by the way, the Dallas PD parking enforcement is really aggressive about only parking on the right side of the street. We've gotten used to it, and it makes sense because it can be dangerous and annoying to navigate cars on both sides, but now you know! If you ever need something, knock on anyone's door - this place is great!"

And then if someone parks on the other side the neighborhood group text has multiple check in within like an hour of noticing to report that they've filed the "please ticket and remove this vehicle" with the PD's parking enforcement. And they just come over and over. Last year some kid's BMW had 14 parking tickets on it - two weeks straight where he must have moved in and then gone back home before the semester or something. LOL.
 
It's a private course so these ******** are trespassing, too.
Problem is, a lot of these are neighbors and friends with my wife.
So are these club members (neighbors) or random people out for a stroll? I would think if they are club members there is an easy solution of reporting them to the club. If they are randoms, can you call the cops?

I get the wife doesn't want to ruffle feathers but this is serious issue of damaging property. It's not just a joke.
They're almost all not club members (if they were, I'd actually be okay with that as it's an equity club and if they want to walk on the course and not be in the way they should be able to) but non-members who live on the course or vacation renters renting a home on the course.

I'm on my club's board. This has been an ongoing issue and we have tried law enforcement in the past but they really don't want to do anything. In fairness, they probably do have better things to be doing as this is perhaps the quintessential 1% percenter problem.

Problem is, because everybody has thrown their hands up and nothing is done, the walkers feel emboldened. A couple of years ago after I yelled at walkers to move from the path in the middle of the fairway and then hit, they had the audacity to yell at me for almost hitting them and that I should have waited (this was on hole 18 and I was trying to get the round in).

Drives me nuts and bothers me enough to make these rants. Because apparently I'm old now. :bag:
I mean the only reasonable reaction here is **** those people
I assume this would be any golfer's take. For a non-golfer though, apparently I'm the old men yelling at teenagers on his lawn.
F that. I don’t golf. Find a way to turn the sprinklers on when they’re out there
 
It's a private course so these ******** are trespassing, too.
Problem is, a lot of these are neighbors and friends with my wife.
So are these club members (neighbors) or random people out for a stroll? I would think if they are club members there is an easy solution of reporting them to the club. If they are randoms, can you call the cops?

I get the wife doesn't want to ruffle feathers but this is serious issue of damaging property. It's not just a joke.
They're almost all not club members (if they were, I'd actually be okay with that as it's an equity club and if they want to walk on the course and not be in the way they should be able to) but non-members who live on the course or vacation renters renting a home on the course.

I'm on my club's board. This has been an ongoing issue and we have tried law enforcement in the past but they really don't want to do anything. In fairness, they probably do have better things to be doing as this is perhaps the quintessential 1% percenter problem.

Problem is, because everybody has thrown their hands up and nothing is done, the walkers feel emboldened. A couple of years ago after I yelled at walkers to move from the path in the middle of the fairway and then hit, they had the audacity to yell at me for almost hitting them and that I should have waited (this was on hole 18 and I was trying to get the round in).

Drives me nuts and bothers me enough to make these rants. Because apparently I'm old now. :bag:
I mean the only reasonable reaction here is **** those people
I assume this would be any golfer's take. For a non-golfer though, apparently I'm the old men yelling at teenagers on his lawn.
F that. I don’t golf. Find a way to turn the sprinklers on when they’re out there
Get Carl Spackler to take care of it.
 
It's a private course so these ******** are trespassing, too.
Problem is, a lot of these are neighbors and friends with my wife.
So are these club members (neighbors) or random people out for a stroll? I would think if they are club members there is an easy solution of reporting them to the club. If they are randoms, can you call the cops?

I get the wife doesn't want to ruffle feathers but this is serious issue of damaging property. It's not just a joke.
They're almost all not club members (if they were, I'd actually be okay with that as it's an equity club and if they want to walk on the course and not be in the way they should be able to) but non-members who live on the course or vacation renters renting a home on the course.

I'm on my club's board. This has been an ongoing issue and we have tried law enforcement in the past but they really don't want to do anything. In fairness, they probably do have better things to be doing as this is perhaps the quintessential 1% percenter problem.

Problem is, because everybody has thrown their hands up and nothing is done, the walkers feel emboldened. A couple of years ago after I yelled at walkers to move from the path in the middle of the fairway and then hit, they had the audacity to yell at me for almost hitting them and that I should have waited (this was on hole 18 and I was trying to get the round in).

Drives me nuts and bothers me enough to make these rants. Because apparently I'm old now. :bag:
I mean the only reasonable reaction here is **** those people
I assume this would be any golfer's take. For a non-golfer though, apparently I'm the old men yelling at teenagers on his lawn.
F that. I don’t golf. Find a way to turn the sprinklers on when they’re out there
Get Carl Spackler to take care of it.
Hopefully he'll do the same thing but with dogs (and more importantly their owners).
 
It's a private course so these ******** are trespassing, too.
Problem is, a lot of these are neighbors and friends with my wife.
So are these club members (neighbors) or random people out for a stroll? I would think if they are club members there is an easy solution of reporting them to the club. If they are randoms, can you call the cops?

I get the wife doesn't want to ruffle feathers but this is serious issue of damaging property. It's not just a joke.
They're almost all not club members (if they were, I'd actually be okay with that as it's an equity club and if they want to walk on the course and not be in the way they should be able to) but non-members who live on the course or vacation renters renting a home on the course.

I'm on my club's board. This has been an ongoing issue and we have tried law enforcement in the past but they really don't want to do anything. In fairness, they probably do have better things to be doing as this is perhaps the quintessential 1% percenter problem.

Problem is, because everybody has thrown their hands up and nothing is done, the walkers feel emboldened. A couple of years ago after I yelled at walkers to move from the path in the middle of the fairway and then hit, they had the audacity to yell at me for almost hitting them and that I should have waited (this was on hole 18 and I was trying to get the round in).

Drives me nuts and bothers me enough to make these rants. Because apparently I'm old now. :bag:
I mean the only reasonable reaction here is **** those people
I assume this would be any golfer's take. For a non-golfer though, apparently I'm the old men yelling at teenagers on his lawn.
F that. I don’t golf. Find a way to turn the sprinklers on when they’re out there
Get Carl Spackler to take care of it.
Hopefully he'll do the same thing but with dogs (and more importantly their owners).

Maybe run a hose out there with a waving sprinkler and turn it on and leave it running. may run up your water bill but water is cheap?
 
It's a private course so these ******** are trespassing, too.
Problem is, a lot of these are neighbors and friends with my wife.
So are these club members (neighbors) or random people out for a stroll? I would think if they are club members there is an easy solution of reporting them to the club. If they are randoms, can you call the cops?

I get the wife doesn't want to ruffle feathers but this is serious issue of damaging property. It's not just a joke.
They're almost all not club members (if they were, I'd actually be okay with that as it's an equity club and if they want to walk on the course and not be in the way they should be able to) but non-members who live on the course or vacation renters renting a home on the course.

I'm on my club's board. This has been an ongoing issue and we have tried law enforcement in the past but they really don't want to do anything. In fairness, they probably do have better things to be doing as this is perhaps the quintessential 1% percenter problem.

Problem is, because everybody has thrown their hands up and nothing is done, the walkers feel emboldened. A couple of years ago after I yelled at walkers to move from the path in the middle of the fairway and then hit, they had the audacity to yell at me for almost hitting them and that I should have waited (this was on hole 18 and I was trying to get the round in).

Drives me nuts and bothers me enough to make these rants. Because apparently I'm old now. :bag:
I mean the only reasonable reaction here is **** those people
I assume this would be any golfer's take. For a non-golfer though, apparently I'm the old men yelling at teenagers on his lawn.
I ran this by my wife, and her reaction was "why would you walk on a golf course, especially with a dog? Isn't that dangerous and not allowed?"
The first why is simple - the course is heavily lined with homes abutting the course and it's in a nice residential neighborhood so the walking paths, the manicured grass, etc. are fantastic for dog walkers and super convenient if you live on or near the course. I imagine if I were a dog being able to run on an open, manicured grass area would be awesome compared to the general limited options in an urban community. Personally, I have a four hole loop where I'll jog on the cart path some early mornings before play starts and I feel fine doing that as I am an equity member of the course and am not impacting play at all. So, I get the attraction and the allure especially with those who believe their dogs take the utmost priority of using the course as a great spot to walk your dog.

The "isn't that dangerous and not allowed?" question is incredibly fair and the source of my frustration. It's also literally criminal trespassing for those who aren't equity members . But people are selfish and stupid and, in my life experience, wholly irrational when it comes to their pets. So, I just get to be angry every night and look like the angry old man when I get annoyed that my course which I care a lot about turns into a ****ing dog park and golfers are expected to cater to them as if it were an actual dog park.
Yeah i mean I'd be getting trespass signs put up, paying for a couple cameras myself, and trying to pursue charges from local LEOs. It's ********.

My point was just - it's not only because you play golf. These people are self indulgent wieners who think having dog means they can do whatever they want.
PREACH!

This past February or March, I even had to deal with some guy who two days in a row came on to my actual property from the path to use my kids' ninja warrior obstacle course thingy. First day I was so amazed it was happening and home by myself I just didn't do anything. Second day, when he came back, I went outside and pretty politely said, "Can I help you?" He paused, and then said, "No... my kids just want to play on that [point to the ninja warrior thing clearly on my private backyard." Before I could say anything further his unleashed dog came running at me (I was standing in the doorframe of our sliding glass door, so I had to back inside). I just said, "please call your dog!" He did so, then proceeded to stand there so his kids could play on my playset thingy. I said, "hey!" and gave him a shrug. He realized I was implying he should leave so his response was to call me an ******* and let one of the kids finish the circuit before leaving.

I knew moving onto a golf course would reduce some expectation of privacy but I totally underestimated human stupidity and selfishness when doing so.
WOW! I was growing frustrated reading about your dog walkers on the curse but someone coming onto your property and using your stuff without even asking really gets my blood pressure up!

I know there are idiots everywhere, but what part of the country are you in?
 
It's a private course so these ******** are trespassing, too.
Problem is, a lot of these are neighbors and friends with my wife.
So are these club members (neighbors) or random people out for a stroll? I would think if they are club members there is an easy solution of reporting them to the club. If they are randoms, can you call the cops?

I get the wife doesn't want to ruffle feathers but this is serious issue of damaging property. It's not just a joke.
They're almost all not club members (if they were, I'd actually be okay with that as it's an equity club and if they want to walk on the course and not be in the way they should be able to) but non-members who live on the course or vacation renters renting a home on the course.

I'm on my club's board. This has been an ongoing issue and we have tried law enforcement in the past but they really don't want to do anything. In fairness, they probably do have better things to be doing as this is perhaps the quintessential 1% percenter problem.

Problem is, because everybody has thrown their hands up and nothing is done, the walkers feel emboldened. A couple of years ago after I yelled at walkers to move from the path in the middle of the fairway and then hit, they had the audacity to yell at me for almost hitting them and that I should have waited (this was on hole 18 and I was trying to get the round in).

Drives me nuts and bothers me enough to make these rants. Because apparently I'm old now. :bag:
I mean the only reasonable reaction here is **** those people
I assume this would be any golfer's take. For a non-golfer though, apparently I'm the old men yelling at teenagers on his lawn.
I ran this by my wife, and her reaction was "why would you walk on a golf course, especially with a dog? Isn't that dangerous and not allowed?"
The first why is simple - the course is heavily lined with homes abutting the course and it's in a nice residential neighborhood so the walking paths, the manicured grass, etc. are fantastic for dog walkers and super convenient if you live on or near the course. I imagine if I were a dog being able to run on an open, manicured grass area would be awesome compared to the general limited options in an urban community. Personally, I have a four hole loop where I'll jog on the cart path some early mornings before play starts and I feel fine doing that as I am an equity member of the course and am not impacting play at all. So, I get the attraction and the allure especially with those who believe their dogs take the utmost priority of using the course as a great spot to walk your dog.

The "isn't that dangerous and not allowed?" question is incredibly fair and the source of my frustration. It's also literally criminal trespassing for those who aren't equity members . But people are selfish and stupid and, in my life experience, wholly irrational when it comes to their pets. So, I just get to be angry every night and look like the angry old man when I get annoyed that my course which I care a lot about turns into a ****ing dog park and golfers are expected to cater to them as if it were an actual dog park.
Yeah i mean I'd be getting trespass signs put up, paying for a couple cameras myself, and trying to pursue charges from local LEOs. It's ********.

My point was just - it's not only because you play golf. These people are self indulgent wieners who think having dog means they can do whatever they want.
PREACH!

This past February or March, I even had to deal with some guy who two days in a row came on to my actual property from the path to use my kids' ninja warrior obstacle course thingy. First day I was so amazed it was happening and home by myself I just didn't do anything. Second day, when he came back, I went outside and pretty politely said, "Can I help you?" He paused, and then said, "No... my kids just want to play on that [point to the ninja warrior thing clearly on my private backyard." Before I could say anything further his unleashed dog came running at me (I was standing in the doorframe of our sliding glass door, so I had to back inside). I just said, "please call your dog!" He did so, then proceeded to stand there so his kids could play on my playset thingy. I said, "hey!" and gave him a shrug. He realized I was implying he should leave so his response was to call me an ******* and let one of the kids finish the circuit before leaving.

I knew moving onto a golf course would reduce some expectation of privacy but I totally underestimated human stupidity and selfishness when doing so.
WOW! I was growing frustrated reading about your dog walkers on the curse but someone coming onto your property and using your stuff without even asking really gets my blood pressure up!

I know there are idiots everywhere, but what part of the country are you in?
High desert in Arizona (Flagstaff). It's the most temperate climate in Arizona and the only ski option so we get a lot of recreational visitors and second-home owners.

I think there's just this warp sense of my neighborhood and course/path being almost like some sort of massive playground where the notion of private property just doesn't exist. The course has lots of no trespassing signs - with several particular warning about how no dog walking is allowed - but so many people violate it that it's nearly impossible to enforce. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if the homes open for vacation rental directly advertise that there is a great walking path for one's dog(s).
 
I do have to say this thread has made be feel better about my outrage for what I described. My wife and in-laws tell me every time to calm down about it.
 
I would invite him over. Have a few beers. Get to know the guy.

A few months of this and he becomes a buddy. Then two things happen: you have a new friend and you can then tell him to stop dumping his ****ing **** on city property.
Maybe go with kombucha? 20 something, right?
 
It's a private course so these ******** are trespassing, too.
Problem is, a lot of these are neighbors and friends with my wife.
So are these club members (neighbors) or random people out for a stroll? I would think if they are club members there is an easy solution of reporting them to the club. If they are randoms, can you call the cops?

I get the wife doesn't want to ruffle feathers but this is serious issue of damaging property. It's not just a joke.
They're almost all not club members (if they were, I'd actually be okay with that as it's an equity club and if they want to walk on the course and not be in the way they should be able to) but non-members who live on the course or vacation renters renting a home on the course.

I'm on my club's board. This has been an ongoing issue and we have tried law enforcement in the past but they really don't want to do anything. In fairness, they probably do have better things to be doing as this is perhaps the quintessential 1% percenter problem.

Problem is, because everybody has thrown their hands up and nothing is done, the walkers feel emboldened. A couple of years ago after I yelled at walkers to move from the path in the middle of the fairway and then hit, they had the audacity to yell at me for almost hitting them and that I should have waited (this was on hole 18 and I was trying to get the round in just before dark).

Drives me nuts and bothers me enough to make these rants. Because apparently I'm old now. :bag:
Short term rentals can be a problem when everyone does not know or respect the rules. Our neighborhood does not allow them. We have lots of dogs in our neighborhood and people do sometimes walk their dogs on the cart paths. As far as I know, these people do respect the golfers and stay out of their way . On a few occasions I have seen owners let their dogs run on the fairways, but only late in the evening. I am not really cool with this, but I am not a golfer so I have not complained. As far as people just ignoring the golfers, I say do so at your own risk.
 
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It's a private course so these ******** are trespassing, too.
Problem is, a lot of these are neighbors and friends with my wife.
So are these club members (neighbors) or random people out for a stroll? I would think if they are club members there is an easy solution of reporting them to the club. If they are randoms, can you call the cops?

I get the wife doesn't want to ruffle feathers but this is serious issue of damaging property. It's not just a joke.
They're almost all not club members (if they were, I'd actually be okay with that as it's an equity club and if they want to walk on the course and not be in the way they should be able to) but non-members who live on the course or vacation renters renting a home on the course.

I'm on my club's board. This has been an ongoing issue and we have tried law enforcement in the past but they really don't want to do anything. In fairness, they probably do have better things to be doing as this is perhaps the quintessential 1% percenter problem.

Problem is, because everybody has thrown their hands up and nothing is done, the walkers feel emboldened. A couple of years ago after I yelled at walkers to move from the path in the middle of the fairway and then hit, they had the audacity to yell at me for almost hitting them and that I should have waited (this was on hole 18 and I was trying to get the round in).

Drives me nuts and bothers me enough to make these rants. Because apparently I'm old now. :bag:
I mean the only reasonable reaction here is **** those people
I assume this would be any golfer's take. For a non-golfer though, apparently I'm the old men yelling at teenagers on his lawn.
I ran this by my wife, and her reaction was "why would you walk on a golf course, especially with a dog? Isn't that dangerous and not allowed?"
The first why is simple - the course is heavily lined with homes abutting the course and it's in a nice residential neighborhood so the walking paths, the manicured grass, etc. are fantastic for dog walkers and super convenient if you live on or near the course. I imagine if I were a dog being able to run on an open, manicured grass area would be awesome compared to the general limited options in an urban community. Personally, I have a four hole loop where I'll jog on the cart path some early mornings before play starts and I feel fine doing that as I am an equity member of the course and am not impacting play at all. So, I get the attraction and the allure especially with those who believe their dogs take the utmost priority of using the course as a great spot to walk your dog.

The "isn't that dangerous and not allowed?" question is incredibly fair and the source of my frustration. It's also literally criminal trespassing for those who aren't equity members . But people are selfish and stupid and, in my life experience, wholly irrational when it comes to their pets. So, I just get to be angry every night and look like the angry old man when I get annoyed that my course which I care a lot about turns into a ****ing dog park and golfers are expected to cater to them as if it were an actual dog park.
Yeah i mean I'd be getting trespass signs put up, paying for a couple cameras myself, and trying to pursue charges from local LEOs. It's ********.

My point was just - it's not only because you play golf. These people are self indulgent wieners who think having dog means they can do whatever they want.
PREACH!

This past February or March, I even had to deal with some guy who two days in a row came on to my actual property from the path to use my kids' ninja warrior obstacle course thingy. First day I was so amazed it was happening and home by myself I just didn't do anything. Second day, when he came back, I went outside and pretty politely said, "Can I help you?" He paused, and then said, "No... my kids just want to play on that [point to the ninja warrior thing clearly on my private backyard." Before I could say anything further his unleashed dog came running at me (I was standing in the doorframe of our sliding glass door, so I had to back inside). I just said, "please call your dog!" He did so, then proceeded to stand there so his kids could play on my playset thingy. I said, "hey!" and gave him a shrug. He realized I was implying he should leave so his response was to call me an ******* and let one of the kids finish the circuit before leaving.

I knew moving onto a golf course would reduce some expectation of privacy but I totally underestimated human stupidity and selfishness when doing so.
I can't fathom this.
 
It's a private course so these ******** are trespassing, too.
Problem is, a lot of these are neighbors and friends with my wife.
So are these club members (neighbors) or random people out for a stroll? I would think if they are club members there is an easy solution of reporting them to the club. If they are randoms, can you call the cops?

I get the wife doesn't want to ruffle feathers but this is serious issue of damaging property. It's not just a joke.
They're almost all not club members (if they were, I'd actually be okay with that as it's an equity club and if they want to walk on the course and not be in the way they should be able to) but non-members who live on the course or vacation renters renting a home on the course.

I'm on my club's board. This has been an ongoing issue and we have tried law enforcement in the past but they really don't want to do anything. In fairness, they probably do have better things to be doing as this is perhaps the quintessential 1% percenter problem.

Problem is, because everybody has thrown their hands up and nothing is done, the walkers feel emboldened. A couple of years ago after I yelled at walkers to move from the path in the middle of the fairway and then hit, they had the audacity to yell at me for almost hitting them and that I should have waited (this was on hole 18 and I was trying to get the round in).

Drives me nuts and bothers me enough to make these rants. Because apparently I'm old now. :bag:
I mean the only reasonable reaction here is **** those people
I assume this would be any golfer's take. For a non-golfer though, apparently I'm the old men yelling at teenagers on his lawn.
I ran this by my wife, and her reaction was "why would you walk on a golf course, especially with a dog? Isn't that dangerous and not allowed?"
The first why is simple - the course is heavily lined with homes abutting the course and it's in a nice residential neighborhood so the walking paths, the manicured grass, etc. are fantastic for dog walkers and super convenient if you live on or near the course. I imagine if I were a dog being able to run on an open, manicured grass area would be awesome compared to the general limited options in an urban community. Personally, I have a four hole loop where I'll jog on the cart path some early mornings before play starts and I feel fine doing that as I am an equity member of the course and am not impacting play at all. So, I get the attraction and the allure especially with those who believe their dogs take the utmost priority of using the course as a great spot to walk your dog.

The "isn't that dangerous and not allowed?" question is incredibly fair and the source of my frustration. It's also literally criminal trespassing for those who aren't equity members . But people are selfish and stupid and, in my life experience, wholly irrational when it comes to their pets. So, I just get to be angry every night and look like the angry old man when I get annoyed that my course which I care a lot about turns into a ****ing dog park and golfers are expected to cater to them as if it were an actual dog park.
Yeah i mean I'd be getting trespass signs put up, paying for a couple cameras myself, and trying to pursue charges from local LEOs. It's ********.

My point was just - it's not only because you play golf. These people are self indulgent wieners who think having dog means they can do whatever they want.
PREACH!

This past February or March, I even had to deal with some guy who two days in a row came on to my actual property from the path to use my kids' ninja warrior obstacle course thingy. First day I was so amazed it was happening and home by myself I just didn't do anything. Second day, when he came back, I went outside and pretty politely said, "Can I help you?" He paused, and then said, "No... my kids just want to play on that [point to the ninja warrior thing clearly on my private backyard." Before I could say anything further his unleashed dog came running at me (I was standing in the doorframe of our sliding glass door, so I had to back inside). I just said, "please call your dog!" He did so, then proceeded to stand there so his kids could play on my playset thingy. I said, "hey!" and gave him a shrug. He realized I was implying he should leave so his response was to call me an ******* and let one of the kids finish the circuit before leaving.

I knew moving onto a golf course would reduce some expectation of privacy but I totally underestimated human stupidity and selfishness when doing so.
I can't fathom this.
It happens.
 
Is this the ***Official*** Retirement thread?
Yep. This thread remains me that I'm not young anymore.

After working my tail off for 15 years, a few years ago I bought a home on my golf course. I'm just off hole one green. It's awesome. The rub though is that around 5:00 PM my course turns a ******* dog park. Due a particularly bad winter the course came into season in bad shape and it is still recovering - stating this only to state that unlike most years the health of the greens and fairways are a concern.

Just about every night my wife has to tell me not to go out and yell at the dog owners and they're stupid dogs for treating the fairway and green like a ******* dog run. Drives me insane. It's a private course so these ******** are trespassing, too. She'll let me go say something if it's particularly egregious like a couple of nights ago when a ****ing dog was literally digging on the green with the owner's encouragement.

A couple weeks ago after lots of holes and whisky we needed to break some betting ties around 6:30 PM on hole one green. My wife was gone for the weekend and we teed off with about 15 idiots and their stupid dogs on the green looking at us like we were intruding on them. I drove up and sarcastically stated, "I recognize this is a dog park, but do you mind if we play through or will that bother Fido and his friends!?" They chirped back and - bear in mind this is very unlike me - it got a little heated and I kept telling them this isn't a dog park. Problem is, a lot of these are neighbors and friends with my wife.

In short, get off my lawn green!
I’ve heard “Lawn sprayed recently with poison” signs work.
 
See if the city accepts anonymous complaints. If so, file one.
My day job is spent in regulation and code enforcement. Those laws are on the books for good reason.
 
It's a private course so these ******** are trespassing, too.
Problem is, a lot of these are neighbors and friends with my wife.
So are these club members (neighbors) or random people out for a stroll? I would think if they are club members there is an easy solution of reporting them to the club. If they are randoms, can you call the cops?

I get the wife doesn't want to ruffle feathers but this is serious issue of damaging property. It's not just a joke.
They're almost all not club members (if they were, I'd actually be okay with that as it's an equity club and if they want to walk on the course and not be in the way they should be able to) but non-members who live on the course or vacation renters renting a home on the course.

I'm on my club's board. This has been an ongoing issue and we have tried law enforcement in the past but they really don't want to do anything. In fairness, they probably do have better things to be doing as this is perhaps the quintessential 1% percenter problem.

Problem is, because everybody has thrown their hands up and nothing is done, the walkers feel emboldened. A couple of years ago after I yelled at walkers to move from the path in the middle of the fairway and then hit, they had the audacity to yell at me for almost hitting them and that I should have waited (this was on hole 18 and I was trying to get the round in).

Drives me nuts and bothers me enough to make these rants. Because apparently I'm old now. :bag:
I mean the only reasonable reaction here is **** those people
I assume this would be any golfer's take. For a non-golfer though, apparently I'm the old men yelling at teenagers on his lawn.
I ran this by my wife, and her reaction was "why would you walk on a golf course, especially with a dog? Isn't that dangerous and not allowed?"
The first why is simple - the course is heavily lined with homes abutting the course and it's in a nice residential neighborhood so the walking paths, the manicured grass, etc. are fantastic for dog walkers and super convenient if you live on or near the course. I imagine if I were a dog being able to run on an open, manicured grass area would be awesome compared to the general limited options in an urban community. Personally, I have a four hole loop where I'll jog on the cart path some early mornings before play starts and I feel fine doing that as I am an equity member of the course and am not impacting play at all. So, I get the attraction and the allure especially with those who believe their dogs take the utmost priority of using the course as a great spot to walk your dog.

The "isn't that dangerous and not allowed?" question is incredibly fair and the source of my frustration. It's also literally criminal trespassing for those who aren't equity members . But people are selfish and stupid and, in my life experience, wholly irrational when it comes to their pets. So, I just get to be angry every night and look like the angry old man when I get annoyed that my course which I care a lot about turns into a ****ing dog park and golfers are expected to cater to them as if it were an actual dog park.
Yeah i mean I'd be getting trespass signs put up, paying for a couple cameras myself, and trying to pursue charges from local LEOs. It's ********.

My point was just - it's not only because you play golf. These people are self indulgent wieners who think having dog means they can do whatever they want.
this is my thing i walk around a lake near my shack and dogs are by law supposed to be on a leash there no longer than six feet but who cares about that the point is that i have seen unleashed dogs get into it with both leashed dogs and unleashed dogs and had one bite my leg just on the pants no blood but the point is that every time the owner says oh i dont get it so and so is a good boy i mean cripes the entitlement is just insane and heaven forbid you say hey there is a dog park about a quarter mile away but they have to be on a leash in here and then its here comes karen and man the sheer insanity of it all just make me laugh and wonder about where we are heading even more than i already do take that to the bank bromigos
 
I would invite him over. Have a few beers. Get to know the guy.

A few months of this and he becomes a buddy. Then two things happen: you have a new friend and you can then tell him to stop dumping his ****ing **** on city property.
Or I could send him a dead fish wrapped in newspapers. The thing that pisses me off is that I told him when he first moved in, about three years ago, that the city already sent out nastygrams about it, but I suppose he didn’t believe me, or just doesn’t care.
This is the problem. Indirect communication. He views you as a co-conspirator since you told him that a third party might get upset. The reality is, YOU are upset. if you told him that directly he may oblige you. He doesn't care about the bogeyman and has no social contract to care about them.
This is it.

This dude is in his 20's. I guarantee he doesn't know why it could be a problem.
When he finds out, he probably still won't think it's a big deal.
At his age, nothing is a big deal.

You either got to befriend him enough to tell him it bothers you, or call the city.

Or wait for him to get sick of doing stupid **** like collecting grass clippings. Only 20 year olds and 80 year olds do that.
 
We have a lot of late day dog walkers at our course too despite the signs and not too subtle warnings. I don't live on the course, but when I play after work, sometimes they are in the way and I'm forced to yell Fore! or something to get their attention. Not a big deal.

What chaps me is when they don't clean up their dog mess. I was looking for a ball in the rough a few weeks back and stepped in a huge pile. Cleaning that out of golf shoes is a nightmare due to the waffle tread on spikeless golf shoes (no water hazard or trees on this hole to help with cleanup). You don't want to be tracking it onto the greens or carts, so I was dragging my foot around for 10 minutes cursing the dog owners profusely. Probably looked and sounded a bit crazy. Unbelievably rude and inconsiderate.
 
And Zow, you're only option is work some more hours and get to a nicer golf course neighborhood.

You're living amongst new money poors that work 9-5 and walk their own dogs.

Health of the greens and fairways is a concern?

My dear heavens, get out of this ghetto immediately.
Sigh. I already work too much to be one of these "new money poors" except my focus in the golf course versus my dog.
 

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