New drill? (1 Viewer)

[Tick]

I've had a DeWalt 12V cordless drill for 18 years, and it's been great. One of the batteries just went bad, and a new one is $65. I've noticed that new drills have a shorter barrel, which would be convenient. This might be the time to replace it.

So... what's a good price point for a new drill with a spare battery at Home Depot or Lowe's?

 

[Metallurgist]

Quick search on edealinfo

 

[Tick]

Okay, looking at an 18V and a 20V set on Home Depot...

http://www.homedepot.com/p/compare/?errorURL=ProductAttributeErrorView&langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053&prodComp_0=202019943&prodComp_1=204279858&keyword=drill+dewalt

The 20V model is $30 more, is smaller, and weighs considerably less. What differences aren't shown on that chart? Battery run time? Battery life?

 

[Tick]

Also, there are kits that include an impact driver... I've never had one before. That little thing isn't a hammer drill, is it? What can a standard drill do that the little impact driver can't?

 

[Tick]

Okay, this is full of good information:

http://www.wwgoa.com/do-i-really-need-an-impact-driver/

 

[the moops]

Get the 18V Makita drill/driver combo. Should be able to find it for under 200 bucks.

 

[GTBilly]

Impact gun is for torque. No it's not a hammer drill. I use mine for screwing down subfloors so picture hundreds and hundreds of 2 1/2" screws over and over. If ya don't get the concept of torque think more twisting and screwing power.

 

[avoiding injuries]

I got this a year ago and it's great. I had a 12v previously and the difference is remarkable.

http://m.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-18-Volt-ONE-1-2-in-Cordless-Lithium-Ion-Drill-Kit-with-2-Batteries-P817/203406858

 

[Gordo]

This is a great set.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M12-12-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-Drill-Driver-Impact-Driver-Combo-Kit-2-Tool-2494-22/203111686

Impact drivers are awesome little tools.

Impact driver is for driving screws or lag bolts or can be used on nut & bolts, but is not for drilling holes.

 

[Annyong]

Get the 18V Makita drill/driver combo. Should be able to find it for under 200 bucks.

Damn right.

 

[mr roboto]

Get the 18V Makita drill/driver combo. Should be able to find it for under 200 bucks.

Damn right.

Yes. Makita impact the best tool I've bought.

 

[Johnny Rock]

I'm partial to my 18v DeWalt tools.

 

[the moops]

I work in an academic shop. We have gone through hundreds of cordless tools over the years. The Makita drill/driver set is the hands down winner, IMO. Yea, the Dewalt or the Milwaukee are fine tools. The Ryobi is crap.

Unless you want to spend 600 bucks on a Festool

 

[belljr]

How heavy duty do you need it?

I got a small 3rill and it's been awesome

http://www.amazon.com/Rockwell-RK2515K2-LithiumTech-12-Volt-Impact/dp/B004U4BAI8

 

[Tick]

I work in an academic shop. We have gone through hundreds of cordless tools over the years. The Makita drill/driver set is the hands down winner, IMO. Yea, the Dewalt or the Milwaukee are fine tools. The Ryobi is crap.

Unless you want to spend 600 bucks on a Festool

This is what my woodworker father-in-law told me as well - Makita/Milwaukee/DeWalt are good, Ryobi isn't.

I'll take a look at Depot tomorrow and decide between the DeWalt Lithium 12V and 20V drill/impact combos.

Thanks for the info, everyone.

 

[GTBilly]

I work in an academic shop. We have gone through hundreds of cordless tools over the years. The Makita drill/driver set is the hands down winner, IMO. Yea, the Dewalt or the Milwaukee are fine tools. The Ryobi is crap.

Unless you want to spend 600 bucks on a Festool

Wow, I'd pick Red over Blue everyday with Yellow being an obvious third. Gotta ask, what is an academic shop?(Fancy name for Highschool Shop Teacher?)

ETA: That sounds rude and condescending and it isn't meant to be.

 

[pollardsvision]

My dad's been building houses for over 40 years now, and as all builders do, has a ####load of tools piled up. Lately, he's switched over to Hitachi drills for general use stuff because every joint on his body is shot and they are really lightweight.

 

[derek245583]

The impact driver is the greatest thing I ever bought.

I rarely use the drill anymore and I am not shy about doing DIY projects.

 

[Fat Nick]

I'm partial to my 18v DeWalt tools.

This.

Yes, the 20V are more technologically advanced, but at this point, most contractors are still using the 18V because they were on the market for years. That means they'll continue to support them at a better price point, while they sell the 20V at a premium. I've got a pretty extensive set of the 18V DeWalts. Drill, Impact Driver, Circular Saw, Jig Saw, Recip Saw, Grinder...Can't really complain about any of them.

Get the Hammer Drill/Impact Driver combo with the battery + Charger. Usually can find it on sale somewhere. If you often use your drill to drive screws, you'll appreciate an impact driver. I used to use my drill for drilling and driving...now that I have an impact driver, I probably only use my drill 20% of the times I used to. Impact drivers are stronger, and safer because you won't get that wrist-breaking torque. They're super strong too. I've broken the head off of many screws from overtightening.

 

[Fat Nick]

I will add that if you want to pay a premium for something that will last, look at the new Milwaukee brushless stuff. I think DeWalt has some brushless too. The brushless motors should last a long long time.

 

[ChiefD]

Get the set with the Lithium Ion batteries. I worked for DeWalt years ago. Way better battery. I wouldn't even consider a set with a NiCad battery.

 

[the moops]

I work in an academic shop. We have gone through hundreds of cordless tools over the years. The Makita drill/driver set is the hands down winner, IMO. Yea, the Dewalt or the Milwaukee are fine tools. The Ryobi is crap.

Unless you want to spend 600 bucks on a Festool

Wow, I'd pick Red over Blue everyday with Yellow being an obvious third. Gotta ask, what is an academic shop?(Fancy name for Highschool Shop Teacher?)

ETA: That sounds rude and condescending and it isn't meant to be.

University shop for design students. I teach occasional furniture design classes, design and fabricate prototypes for University researchers (anything from medical devices to toy designs), run our digital lab (CNC routers, plasma cutters, lasers, 3d printers, etc), and make sure students don't chop off fingers in the traditional wood/metal shop.

 

[mr roboto]

I work in an academic shop. We have gone through hundreds of cordless tools over the years. The Makita drill/driver set is the hands down winner, IMO. Yea, the Dewalt or the Milwaukee are fine tools. The Ryobi is crap.

Unless you want to spend 600 bucks on a Festool

Wow, I'd pick Red over Blue everyday with Yellow being an obvious third. Gotta ask, what is an academic shop?(Fancy name for Highschool Shop Teacher?)

ETA: That sounds rude and condescending and it isn't meant to be.

University shop for design students. I teach occasional furniture design classes, design and fabricate prototypes for University researchers (anything from medical devices to toy designs), run our digital lab (CNC routers, plasma cutters, lasers, 3d printers, etc), and make sure students don't chop off fingers in the traditional wood/metal shop.

You in the Twin Cities? Which school?

 

[the moops]

College of Design at the U

 

[the moops]

180 bucks

http://www.cpoindustrialpowertools.com/factory-reconditioned-makita-lct200w-r-18v-cordless-lithium-ion-1-2-in--compact-drill-driver-and-impact-driver-combo-kit/mktrlct200w-r,default,pd.html?ref=criteo&zmam=31282435&zmas=47&zmac=693&zmap=mktrlct200w-r&utm_source=criteo&utm_medium=retargeting&utm_campaign=banner728x90&ref=criteo

 

[The Z Machine]

The Bosch brushless line looks niiiice.

 

[Hawks64]

I will add that if you want to pay a premium for something that will last, look at the new Milwaukee brushless stuff. I think DeWalt has some brushless too. The brushless motors should last a long long time.

Best advice ever.

 

[McGarnicle]

I have pretty much the entire Ryobi 18v line from Home Depot. Pure 100% crap.

 

[GTBilly]

I have pretty much the entire Ryobi 18v line from Home Depot. Pure 100% crap.

Why did you keep buying them if they're crap?

 

[McGarnicle]

I have pretty much the entire Ryobi 18v line from Home Depot. Pure 100% crap.

Why did you keep buying them if they're crap?

They're cheap and I had the batteries. I'd have a project that needed a tool I didn't have, that's what I'd buy. For most household projects, they're adequate. For anything requiring above average power/torque, or running for long intervals, forget it. Worst offender is the circular saw. You can make one pass through plywood before the battery is toast, and that's if you can actually get through it.

 

[Dickies]

When I was starting my tool collection my dad told me "If you want a tool to last a lifetime, buy Milwuakee. If you want it to last a day, buy Ryobi." A few weeks after that, my friend bought a Ryobi orbital sander and asked me to come over and help him refinish his kitchen table and chairs. The sander crapped out before we even finished 75% of the table.

I don't really think you can go wrong with Milwuakee, Makita or DeWalt. I have some tools from all three and they are all excellent. Do not buy Ryobi. You may save a few bucks up front, but you'll pay more and be frustrated at the end.

 

[jwb]

When I was starting my tool collection my dad told me "If you want a tool to last a lifetime, buy Milwuakee. If you want it to last a day, buy Ryobi." A few weeks after that, my friend bought a Ryobi orbital sander and asked me to come over and help him refinish his kitchen table and chairs. The sander crapped out before we even finished 75% of the table.

I don't really think you can go wrong with Milwuakee, Makita or DeWalt. I have some tools from all three and they are all excellent. Do not buy Ryobi. You may save a few bucks up front, but you'll pay more and be frustrated at the end.

People have their preferences, but like you, I have found all three to be first rate.

This thread got me thinking about a new drill (like the OP, I had an old Dewalt 12v). Picked up the Dewalt 20v set the other day. Love it. Never had an impact driver before - really like that tool.

 

[McGarnicle]

I wonder if I could get $150 on CL for my Ryobi drill, ripsaw, circular saw, sander, flashlight, charger and two batteries. :thinking:

 

[McGarnicle]

This is what I'd get

 

[GTBilly]

This is what I'd get

Only problem is the OP needs a drill.

 

[Otis]

I've had a Dewalt cordless drill/screwdriver for nearly ten years that some furniture assembly and delivery guy left behind at my house. It's nearing end of life I fear. So blackdot for the latest and greatest.

 

[McGarnicle]

This is what I'd get

Only problem is the OP needs a drill.

Yeah we've moved past that now thanks.

 

[the moops]

I've had a Dewalt cordless drill/screwdriver for nearly ten years that some furniture assembly and delivery guy left behind at my house. It's nearing end of life I fear. So blackdot for the latest and greatest.

Festool for you my friend.

 

[GTBilly]

This is what I'd get

Only problem is the OP needs a drill.

Yeah we've moved past that now thanks.

No, you moved past. We're still being helpful. Also, we established that he shouldn't buy anything but the latest and greatest of the big 3. Now unknot yer britches and enjoy a beer.

 

[Otis]

I've had a Dewalt cordless drill/screwdriver for nearly ten years that some furniture assembly and delivery guy left behind at my house. It's nearing end of life I fear. So blackdot for the latest and greatest.

Festool for you my friend.

Why so expensive? Sounds like the fancy new Milwaukee or Dewalt job will do, no? You may have heard that I often sub this stuff out..........

 

[Otis]

$635 feels steep

 

[pollardsvision]

Picked up a cheap, crappy hammer drill to re-anchor a barstool into concrete. $70 Porter Cable. I didn't need it to go very deep into concrete, but it did handle with relative ease.

I've got 23 more barstools that are all 40 years old getting bumped into each day just waiting to need to be re-anchored, so I thought it made sense to buy. Though maybe I just wanted a reason to buy something called a hammer drill......

Nice having a back-up when you don't feel like remembering to charge a cordless battery too.

Going through stainless steel with my aging cordless Dewalt isn't a whole lot of fun either.

 

[The Z Machine]

There's a reason that corded drills still exist.

 

[Fat Nick]

I've had a Dewalt cordless drill/screwdriver for nearly ten years that some furniture assembly and delivery guy left behind at my house. It's nearing end of life I fear. So blackdot for the latest and greatest.

Festool for you my friend.

Why so expensive? Sounds like the fancy new Milwaukee or Dewalt job will do, no? You may have heard that I often sub this stuff out..........

Festool is honestly geared towards professional woodworkers. It's not for the DIY around the house guy. GREAT stuff, but not worth the price. I'm a very heavy DIY guy around my house, and I've never needed more than my 18V Dewalt stuff. I'm re-doing our deck, expanding it to 25'x20', and the only thing I might buy is a corded circular saw. The Dewalt stuff is plenty for me.

 

[the moops]

Come on folks, we have read plenty of Otis threads. We can for sure convince him to buy way expensive stuff that he doesn't need

I had a student in one furniture class, super wealthy student, parents owned the Lee Kum Ken food company, who had nothing but Festool stuff. it is outrageously expensive, but those things are super slick. The track saw was especially so.

Any of the Dewalt, Makita, Milwaukee, Panasonic drill/drivers are fine. The brushless will last longer, but depending on what you are doing, it may not be worth the extra scratch. I would avoid the batteried kits. Cordless drills are incredible. The rest (circ saw, hammer drill, sander, etc) will just leave you frustrated. And nobody really needs a flashlight anyway.

 

[Tick]

I just ordered this:

http://amazon.com/DEWALT-DCK280C2-20-Volt-Li-Ion-Compact/dp/B0052MIIX2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422376781&sr=8-1&keywords=Dewalt+280C2

 

[the moops]

I just ordered this:

http://amazon.com/DEWALT-DCK280C2-20-Volt-Li-Ion-Compact/dp/B0052MIIX2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422376781&sr=8-1&keywords=Dewalt+280C2

good price

 

[Spanky267]

I just ordered this:

http://amazon.com/DEWALT-DCK280C2-20-Volt-Li-Ion-Compact/dp/B0052MIIX2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422376781&sr=8-1&keywords=Dewalt+280C2

Nice choice. I sell DeWalt, Makita, Milwaukee and Bosch tools, among other things, for a living. Cant really go wrong with the set you purchased. It will last you a good long time. I would suggest you find the nearest DeWalt Service Center. I am not saying this because I think the tool will fail. But if I remember correctly, if you take the tool back to them within the 1 year warranty period they will go through it, clean it up and replace any wear items. At least they used to do that. I dont work with their Service Centers as much as I used to.

 

[jwb]

I just ordered this:

http://amazon.com/DEWALT-DCK280C2-20-Volt-Li-Ion-Compact/dp/B0052MIIX2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422376781&sr=8-1&keywords=Dewalt+280C2

Yes, nice price. It's the exact set I bought at Lowes for $190.

 

[glumpy]

Had exceptional use from both Dewalts and Bosch cordless. Dewalts in particular will charge a battery faster than we could run one down using standard drill; I've driven 1/4x6" lagbolts decking with the Bosch 12v impact driver. I've got an 18v. Craftsman that might put both to shame but never seem to have had the need for it yet.