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New Jersey Drone Invasion (2 Viewers)
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Maik Jeaunz
Footballguy
I for one welcome our new drone overlords.
ChiefD
Footballguy
Not me. I don't want them watching me pee in my front yard.
And they would have to bring the large format camera too.
HellToupee
Footballguy
Chat GPT’s drone take on some possible scenarios. Here's what it said:………
Alright, let’s dive into some intelligent conjecture. Connecting the dots between mysterious drones over New Jersey and Russia's abrupt travel advisory raises some intriguing possibilities.
The Setup:
1. Mysterious Drones Over New Jersey:
Advanced, evasive drones are being seen near sensitive locations (Trump’s Bedminster golf course, military bases). These are no off-the-shelf gadgets; their sophistication screams state-of-the-art tech, likely military-grade or intelligence-operated.
2. Russia’s Travel Advisory:
The Kremlin warning its citizens against traveling to the U.S., Canada, and the EU suggests something bigger is at play than just "deteriorating relations." This could be a prelude to significant geopolitical maneuvers or fear of retaliation.
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The Theory:
These events may indicate the escalation of a covert "gray war" between global superpowers. Here’s what might be happening:
1. A Prelude to a Cyber or Kinetic Attack?
Drones as Recon: The drones could be part of an adversary's intelligence-gathering operation. They're mapping critical infrastructure, testing defense systems, or even preparing for sabotage. Why New Jersey? It could be tied to nearby major telecom hubs, financial institutions, or power grids.
Disrupting Elections or Policy: With Trump’s Bedminster estate in the vicinity, the drones may be linked to efforts to either destabilize or gain intel on U.S. domestic political developments ahead of a critical turning point.
2. A False Flag Operation?
Creating a Villain Narrative: Could the U.S. or its allies be staging this? Painting a foreign adversary (like Russia or China) as a threat to ramp up domestic unity or justify new policies could be in play.
Drone ‘Sightings’ as Propaganda: This narrative could be used to drum up support for military or economic action while distracting from domestic issues like economic instability or political infighting.
3. Covert Signals of Escalation in a Global Standoff:
Russia’s Advisory: They might know something we don’t. Are they aware of planned escalations or retaliatory moves within the U.S.? Their travel warning could signal fears of spy-catching operations or even large-scale retaliations.
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The Wild Speculation:
HAARP or Electromagnetic Experiments: Some theorists might connect these drone sightings to electromagnetic interference tech being deployed or tested. If these drones “disappear” when spotted, could they be cloaked using advanced tech? Are they delivering payloads invisible to conventional radar?
Setting the Stage for "Alien" Narratives: The drone phenomenon might also be co-opted into a larger disinformation campaign, spinning the story towards "UFOs" to mask geopolitical threats.
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Final Prediction:
We could be in the prelude to a major escalation: a cyber/physical attack on U.S. infrastructure or financial systems to destabilize power balances. The synchronized timing of the travel advisory and the drone sightings smells of something bigger brewing behind the scenes—likely to unfold in months or weeks.
Alright, let’s dive into some intelligent conjecture. Connecting the dots between mysterious drones over New Jersey and Russia's abrupt travel advisory raises some intriguing possibilities.
The Setup:
1. Mysterious Drones Over New Jersey:
Advanced, evasive drones are being seen near sensitive locations (Trump’s Bedminster golf course, military bases). These are no off-the-shelf gadgets; their sophistication screams state-of-the-art tech, likely military-grade or intelligence-operated.
2. Russia’s Travel Advisory:
The Kremlin warning its citizens against traveling to the U.S., Canada, and the EU suggests something bigger is at play than just "deteriorating relations." This could be a prelude to significant geopolitical maneuvers or fear of retaliation.
---
The Theory:
These events may indicate the escalation of a covert "gray war" between global superpowers. Here’s what might be happening:
1. A Prelude to a Cyber or Kinetic Attack?
Drones as Recon: The drones could be part of an adversary's intelligence-gathering operation. They're mapping critical infrastructure, testing defense systems, or even preparing for sabotage. Why New Jersey? It could be tied to nearby major telecom hubs, financial institutions, or power grids.
Disrupting Elections or Policy: With Trump’s Bedminster estate in the vicinity, the drones may be linked to efforts to either destabilize or gain intel on U.S. domestic political developments ahead of a critical turning point.
2. A False Flag Operation?
Creating a Villain Narrative: Could the U.S. or its allies be staging this? Painting a foreign adversary (like Russia or China) as a threat to ramp up domestic unity or justify new policies could be in play.
Drone ‘Sightings’ as Propaganda: This narrative could be used to drum up support for military or economic action while distracting from domestic issues like economic instability or political infighting.
3. Covert Signals of Escalation in a Global Standoff:
Russia’s Advisory: They might know something we don’t. Are they aware of planned escalations or retaliatory moves within the U.S.? Their travel warning could signal fears of spy-catching operations or even large-scale retaliations.
---
The Wild Speculation:
HAARP or Electromagnetic Experiments: Some theorists might connect these drone sightings to electromagnetic interference tech being deployed or tested. If these drones “disappear” when spotted, could they be cloaked using advanced tech? Are they delivering payloads invisible to conventional radar?
Setting the Stage for "Alien" Narratives: The drone phenomenon might also be co-opted into a larger disinformation campaign, spinning the story towards "UFOs" to mask geopolitical threats.
---
Final Prediction:
We could be in the prelude to a major escalation: a cyber/physical attack on U.S. infrastructure or financial systems to destabilize power balances. The synchronized timing of the travel advisory and the drone sightings smells of something bigger brewing behind the scenes—likely to unfold in months or weeks.
NutterButter
Footballguy
It took Fat Nick 6 days to get the same number of posts in his competing NJ drone thread. Impressive MOP.
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
HellToupee
Footballguy
Non-Nation-State Hostile Intelligence Service (NNSHIS)
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
FRONT yard? How big is your front yard?
rockaction
Footballguy
I’m not being flip about this. I told my parents I thought a significant war was coming based on the four months I spent on Twitter and they looked at me like I was nuts. I’ve been worried about WWIII since we assassinated the Iranian National Guard leader back in 2017 or 2018 (?). It’s documented on this very board. So I’m just getting it out there.
But in the spirit of your comment, here you go. This is the guy I was going to use for MAD 31 #4 (#3?)
Drones Over BKLYN - El-P
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rockaction
Footballguy
I deleted a few posts but I’m going to put them back up. The protests this spring at the campuses were largely funded by communists and the Middle East, and in some cases, people that support both communism and Islamism (People’s Liberation Front of Palestine). The PLFP* had a representative show up a dinner in Detroit at a conference deceptively titled as a campus/town protest about the Palestinian war. Rashida Tlaib attended. Terrorists attended.
This was a disaster. These protests were funded by really bad people. Our unsuspecting college students, playing with fire, opened us up to intel gathering and poking and prodding and testing for soft spots for terror. And there are a whole lot of them.
This was really bad for our country. Our colleges, writ large, have accepted 16 BN from Middle Eastern countries in the past two decades. That’s 16. Billion. What are they doing? What are we doing?
It’s nuts.
If Iran is behind this, then I am very worried.
eta* What’s awesome after McBokonon’s comment is that the group is actually the PFLP, which means the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, not the People’s Liberation Front of Palestine. I knew it was the PFLP but couldn’t get the words to make sense, so I figured I was wrong. Welp!
This was a disaster. These protests were funded by really bad people. Our unsuspecting college students, playing with fire, opened us up to intel gathering and poking and prodding and testing for soft spots for terror. And there are a whole lot of them.
This was really bad for our country. Our colleges, writ large, have accepted 16 BN from Middle Eastern countries in the past two decades. That’s 16. Billion. What are they doing? What are we doing?
It’s nuts.
If Iran is behind this, then I am very worried.
eta* What’s awesome after McBokonon’s comment is that the group is actually the PFLP, which means the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, not the People’s Liberation Front of Palestine. I knew it was the PFLP but couldn’t get the words to make sense, so I figured I was wrong. Welp!
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McBokonon
Footballguy
“We’re not the People’s Liberation Front of Palestine! We’re the Palestine Liberation Front for People!
(mutters)People’s Liberation Front of Palestine. (humph). SPLITTERS!”
rockaction
Footballguy
That’s Monty Python, isn’t it?
I feel like asking if that’s a communist swallow or a democratic socialist swallow.
McBokonon
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
Seen it and never made it through thinking, “yeah, yeah, I get the joke.” You got me to watch it. Very cool. Very funny. “No! He’s the Popular Front of Judea. Splitter!”
That’s really clever. John Cleese is young in that. My word.
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
From Urban Dictionary - “Massive Dong”: a nickname in the hinterlands of Wisconsin for a ridiculously large shovel collection. Used in a sentence, “Much to his wife’s chagrin, ChiefD spends most of his weekends in the garage buffing and polishing his massive dong.”
ChiefD
Footballguy
Massive laugh emoji inserted here…..
HellToupee
Footballguy
beer 30
Footballguy
The best explanation I've heard so far is these are defense contractors deploying to test out design, function over a large urban area. The DoD was pretty specific to say what these drones aren't yesterday:
- They aren't a foreign entity (Iran)
- They aren't US military
- They aren't alien (maybe)
- No one is doing anything about them. if they were a threat, we would be shooting them down and threatening whoever sent them
Jaysus
Good times!
What's the other option for the DoD? "Dear enemies, we are definitely testing out some new top secret stuff that we are going to use on you in the future. Good luck with that."
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
That sounds about right
HellToupee
Footballguy
Never heard the term Non-Nation-State Hostile Intelligence Service (NNSHIS) until yesterday
Don Quixote
Footballguy
I think that overall makes sense, but only thing that I don’t really get is how much the lights are on on the drones. Would think folks in the defense industry would be less visible about it. Unless it really is some kind of social experiment like you indicated.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
Possible - but it just keeps continuing. If it was that I would think the DoD would shut it down at this point.
Chaos34
Footballguy
I'm not saying I believe the false flag theory but it would be kind of funny if there was this plan to scare us into rallying around a military response to a foreign presence and nobody cared so they just kept going and going.
Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
In all seriousness, I think this is the best argument that it really IS US military, and that they are doing an actual thing. If it were just testing, they'd shut it down. If it weren't us, they'd be taking very decisive action.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I would put the probability of a near-term significant war directly involving the United States at something like 25% or so, which is much higher than I would like. In other words, I do not actually think that such a war is coming, but I am very worried about the possibility. Part of my uncertainty and, frankly, unease stems from the fact that the world is different than it has been at any time in my life, or even at any time since WWII. I'm used to the cold war. I had to adjust to the period of US hegemony that followed that, and obviously the US no longer even resembles a hegemon. We already have a major conflict on Europe's back door, and a bunch of conflicts in the Middle East. (Regional war in the Arab world? Well now I've seen it all!) How much longer until China makes a move on Taiwan, or until North Korea makes a move on the South?
I’m not being flip about this. I told my parents I thought a significant war was coming based on the four months I spent on Twitter and they looked at me like I was nuts. I’ve been worried about WWIII since we assassinated the Iranian National Guard leader back in 2017 or 2018 (?). It’s documented on this very board. So I’m just getting it out there.
But in the spirit of your comment, here you go. This is the guy I was going to use for MAD 31 #4 (#3?)
Drones Over BKLYN - El-P
We "know" that China is using social media to stir unrest in the US. We know that Iran is messing with us. Those Hamas-supporting students probably didn't buy those tents themselves. If I were China, and I wanted to destabilize the US prior to embarking upon you-know-what, I would do pretty much exactly what we all think China is doing. This is what the US did to other countries for all those decades. We've seen this playbook, because it's ours.
I frequently see people with Ukrainian flags in their bio who seem perfectly happy to get us all nuked as long as Ukraine doesn't lose any territory. I don't understand that, but there are a lot of people out there who confuse "being on the right side" with having a missile defense system. Those two things are not substitutes.
I don't have a great model for how international relations works in a world like this. I know enough history to know that this is not actually the situation that countries found themselves in prior to WWI, but it kind of feels like that. We have several proxy wars going on at the moment between the US/EU and Russia/China/NK/Iran. I don't know what it takes to push one of those from "proxy war" to "war," and I would prefer not to find out.
HellToupee
Footballguy
If we are to believe the Pentagon yesterday it’s not US military so that leaves a black budget project with the CIA & Lockheed Martin etc. I’d rather it be official US military
Mister CIA
Footballguy
You nailed it.
HellToupee
Footballguy
No answers but lots of questions
“Belleville, NJ Mayor Michael Melham provided a shocking update following an unprecedented briefing for 500 mayors about mysterious drones evading detection across the state.
According to Melham, the six-foot drones are undetectable by New Jersey’s advanced detection equipment and have unknown origins. Key details include:
— Drones loitering for 6-7 hours, far exceeding typical drone capabilities.
— Lights shutting off when approached.
— Flying over critical infrastructure, including reservoirs, Picatinny Arsenal, Trump Bedminster, and a nuclear power plant.
— Authorities have no information on launch or landing sites, ownership, or drone types.
Melham emphasized the lack of federal or state ownership, leaving officials scrambling for answers as these drones continue to breach high-security zones.”
“Belleville, NJ Mayor Michael Melham provided a shocking update following an unprecedented briefing for 500 mayors about mysterious drones evading detection across the state.
According to Melham, the six-foot drones are undetectable by New Jersey’s advanced detection equipment and have unknown origins. Key details include:
— Drones loitering for 6-7 hours, far exceeding typical drone capabilities.
— Lights shutting off when approached.
— Flying over critical infrastructure, including reservoirs, Picatinny Arsenal, Trump Bedminster, and a nuclear power plant.
— Authorities have no information on launch or landing sites, ownership, or drone types.
Melham emphasized the lack of federal or state ownership, leaving officials scrambling for answers as these drones continue to breach high-security zones.”
dkp993
Footballguy
The Tik-tac sightings in the early 2000’s with Commander David Fravor off the coast of San Diego happened daily for weeks. 20 yrs later, still no answers.it’s wild this has been going on for weeks and all we get is. If these drones are Chinese/Russian/Iranian we have a problem. If these drones are not Chinese/Russian/Iranian we have a problem
beer 30
Footballguy
They're just making **** up at this point
It is the US military, it's just them having plausible deniability by saying it isn't them. They can't really say, "it isn't us because we didn't put a decal on it but we instructed our defense contracts to do it and we'd cover for them." Cause that's kinda what they said yesterday without saying it.
The alternative is every facet of our defensive capabilities is completely inept and they all, collectively really do have zero clue.
Out of the two scenarios, I know what allows me to sleep better at night.
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Mister CIA
Footballguy
TLEF316
Footballguy
I would put the probability of a near-term significant war directly involving the United States at something like 25% or so, which is much higher than I would like. In other words, I do not actually think that such a war is coming, but I am very worried about the possibility. Part of my uncertainty and, frankly, unease stems from the fact that the world is different than it has been at any time in my life, or even at any time since WWII. I'm used to the cold war. I had to adjust to the period of US hegemony that followed that, and obviously the US no longer even resembles a hegemon. We already have a major conflict on Europe's back door, and a bunch of conflicts in the Middle East. (Regional war in the Arab world? Well now I've seen it all!) How much longer until China makes a move on Taiwan, or until North Korea makes a move on the South?
I’m not being flip about this. I told my parents I thought a significant war was coming based on the four months I spent on Twitter and they looked at me like I was nuts. I’ve been worried about WWIII since we assassinated the Iranian National Guard leader back in 2017 or 2018 (?). It’s documented on this very board. So I’m just getting it out there.
But in the spirit of your comment, here you go. This is the guy I was going to use for MAD 31 #4 (#3?)
Drones Over BKLYN - El-P
We "know" that China is using social media to stir unrest in the US. We know that Iran is messing with us. Those Hamas-supporting students probably didn't buy those tents themselves. If I were China, and I wanted to destabilize the US prior to embarking upon you-know-what, I would do pretty much exactly what we all think China is doing. This is what the US did to other countries for all those decades. We've seen this playbook, because it's ours.
I frequently see people with Ukrainian flags in their bio who seem perfectly happy to get us all nuked as long as Ukraine doesn't lose any territory. I don't understand that, but there are a lot of people out there who confuse "being on the right side" with having a missile defense system. Those two things are not substitutes.
I don't have a great model for how international relations works in a world like this. I know enough history to know that this is not actually the situation that countries found themselves in prior to WWI, but it kind of feels like that. We have several proxy wars going on at the moment between the US/EU and Russia/China/NK/Iran. I don't know what it takes to push one of those from "proxy war" to "war," and I would prefer not to find out.
Yup. China is absolutely playing the long game. Just keep making our young folks useless with Tik Tok until we have nobody left to defend ourselves. Between the GenZ brainrot and the political division, we're becoming less and less likely to put up a fight every day. If they ever get the advantage in drone tech or cyber warfare, we're in major trouble.
HellToupee
Footballguy
John Kirby gaslighting the situation . Every denial erodes trust further and further
John Kirby on drone activity in and around New Jersey: "We have no evidence at this time that the reported drone sightings pose a national security or a public safety threat or have a foreign nexus... We have not been able to...corroborate any of the reported visual sightings."
John Kirby on drone activity in and around New Jersey: "We have no evidence at this time that the reported drone sightings pose a national security or a public safety threat or have a foreign nexus... We have not been able to...corroborate any of the reported visual sightings."
fatness
Footballguy
Here's a funny one:
"Mystery drone emerges out of the ocean and heads towards Oyster Creek Nuclear Plant - NJ"
Accompanied by a video showing no water, nothing emerging from anything, no power plant, and what looks like airplane lights (red on one side, green on the other)
And yet people buy right in.
"Mystery drone emerges out of the ocean and heads towards Oyster Creek Nuclear Plant - NJ"
Accompanied by a video showing no water, nothing emerging from anything, no power plant, and what looks like airplane lights (red on one side, green on the other)
And yet people buy right in.
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
Are these soccer teams?
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Given the amount of trust that Americans have in major institutions at the moment, I don't think it would be a good idea for the US military to run experiments on US civilian populations. I can't believe that needs to be said out loud.
Sand
Footballguy
And since urban New Jersey is probably the most similar to places like Mogadishu, Tehran, and Kabul that also makes sense.
belljr
Footballguy
Bro. I live in the suburbs where they are flying now. The state park farmland they fly over does not look like the middle east
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