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Dragons said:
TexanFan02 said:
I am not liking the triangle for heads up, I won like 80% of my matches today, but the ones I lost I had no control over, if you guess wrong as to which end the opponent shows up when you complete your 20 bonus you are screwed (i.e. if you have 80 armies in the wrong corner upon completion), you guess he will be right next to you, and he completed up top.
Or when your opponent's 14/9 attack works and ends the game...
Or when a 5 beats a 4. Oh, wait, that was a different game.
You were going to lose that fight anyway. You had no bonuses, I had 3. In the game I was referring to, JoJo and I each had 1.
Actually, that's not true. At the time, I had just secured XinJiang (18) and you had not secured East India or North India yet. You may have had Bangladesh and Bhutan (I can't confirm, as I can't see the full history yet). Next turn, I lost attacking with 9 vs 5, which would have kept North India from you. Had I held on to Nagqu the turn before, I could have abandoned and focused more armies towards North India and held on to XinJiang the following turn.

You had an advantage at that point, but it wasn't completely one sided until that loss.

I'm just pointing out that you win some, you lose some by the luck factor. If you're going to complain about marginal bad luck, you should probably also point out when luck works supremely in your favor.

14 beating 9 is nothing (the kill ratio alone is 8.4).
I did have Bangladesh and Bhutan. And Shanghai, which you couldn't have known about. North India was my 4th bonus, I got it, Tibet and maybe East India on the same turn. If you had abandoned in Tibet, I just would have focused more men in North India and the other space in Tibet next to your bonus. What really killed you on that turn wasn't luck, it was the order delay card I played that allowed me to break your only bonus. Even if you had gotten into North India, the loss of Xingjiang was your death knell. Not saying luck wasn't a factor, but that one battle didn't make or break your game. There were other things, like when I kept you from getting North India by attacking out of Nepal. Or how I was able to expand in North India and Tibet in the first place because you were using all your men to take Xingjiang and didn't oppose me at all.

Yes, I did get lucky on some rolls. I was just commenting that JoJo's roll decided our game. No one roll in the East Asia game decided the whole thing. Say you abandon in Tibet AND got into North India. I would still have taken East India and been making 41 armies to your 28.

And I wouldn't call 5 killing 4 "supremely" lucky. I should kill 3. I killed an extra 1. JoJo killed an extra .6. Don't see how one of those is marginal and one is supremely lucky.

 
By the way, if Team E and F don't already know, we swept the tournament. Total Domination, don't think any game went longer than 14 turns. Gas and Tick were totally awesome.

 
Oh, and for all the people that were in the UNC III game, I surrendered. I could have won, but I thought it would be fun for Daimyo and Sidewinder to play on, so I gifted them both some big forces and let them go at each other.

 
Anyone interested in teaming up for this tournament:

http://www.warlight.net/App.aspx?TournamentID=457

It's 5 man teams, world map, double elimination, and just for Jojo, luck is at 0%. If you haven't been invited, and are interested, let me know.

ETA: I joined team BF, in the hopes of recruiting the greatest player ever on my team.

 
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I'm in on team BF. Who's the newbie, tho?

Prince has played in 326 ranked games, guess I can't call him a newbie.

 
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I'm in on team BF. Who's the newbie, tho?Prince has played in 326 ranked games, guess I can't call him a newbie.
Some random dude.How many of those games has he won? I think we can pull the dead weight if we have to.
If we have 5 FBGs, I say we all just switch over to a new team and play there. No offense, Prince.
And some other ##### who joined.
I invited a few more FBGs and moved to team AK, in honor of our friends from the tundra.
 
Dragons said:
Dragons said:
bostonfred said:
I'm in on team BF. Who's the newbie, tho?Prince has played in 326 ranked games, guess I can't call him a newbie.
Some random dude.How many of those games has he won? I think we can pull the dead weight if we have to.
If we have 5 FBGs, I say we all just switch over to a new team and play there. No offense, Prince.
And some other ##### who joined.
I invited a few more FBGs and moved to team AK, in honor of our friends from the tundra.
Dang, I declined despite being from the tundra.
 
I'm in on team BF. Who's the newbie, tho?

Prince has played in 326 ranked games, guess I can't call him a newbie.
Playing in a quick game right now against Prince. I'll report back on any competence, or lack thereof.
hmmm, not looking good. Turn 2 of a 5 minute boot game and he's already over the time limit.
Game over. My team won. I wasn't all that impressed w/ Prince.http://www.warlight.net/App.aspx?GameID=1051963

 
I'm in on team BF. Who's the newbie, tho?

Prince has played in 326 ranked games, guess I can't call him a newbie.
Playing in a quick game right now against Prince. I'll report back on any competence, or lack thereof.
hmmm, not looking good. Turn 2 of a 5 minute boot game and he's already over the time limit.
Game over. My team won. I wasn't all that impressed w/ Prince.http://www.warlight.net/App.aspx?GameID=1051963
Team Alaska ended up full, but it's not too late to abandon team BF and get another FBG team going.
 
I'm in on team BF. Who's the newbie, tho?

Prince has played in 326 ranked games, guess I can't call him a newbie.
Playing in a quick game right now against Prince. I'll report back on any competence, or lack thereof.
hmmm, not looking good. Turn 2 of a 5 minute boot game and he's already over the time limit.
Game over. My team won. I wasn't all that impressed w/ Prince.http://www.warlight.net/App.aspx?GameID=1051963
Team Alaska ended up full, but it's not too late to abandon team BF and get another FBG team going.
I don't know. I think w/ bostonfred and humuna, the other 2 spots could be AI and we would clean up.I hope they don't ditch me, though. I'm psyched to be learning at the feet of the masters.

 
Anyone interested in teaming up for this tournament:

http://www.warlight.net/App.aspx?TournamentID=457

It's 5 man teams, world map, double elimination, and just for Jojo, luck is at 0%. If you haven't been invited, and are interested, let me know.

ETA: I joined team BF, in the hopes of recruiting the greatest player ever on my team.
OK, this is a tournament that may actually start:http://www.warlight.net/App.aspx?TournamentID=470

5 man teams, East Asia map, single elimination. Anyone interested in joining the same team? At the moment, teams D, J and L have 4 empty spots.

 
Anyone interested in teaming up for this tournament:

http://www.warlight.net/App.aspx?TournamentID=457

It's 5 man teams, world map, double elimination, and just for Jojo, luck is at 0%. If you haven't been invited, and are interested, let me know.

ETA: I joined team BF, in the hopes of recruiting the greatest player ever on my team.
OK, this is a tournament that may actually start:http://www.warlight.net/App.aspx?TournamentID=470

5 man teams, East Asia map, single elimination. Anyone interested in joining the same team? At the moment, teams D, J and L have 4 empty spots.
I'm not invited :unsure:

 
Anyone interested in teaming up for this tournament:

http://www.warlight.net/App.aspx?TournamentID=457

It's 5 man teams, world map, double elimination, and just for Jojo, luck is at 0%. If you haven't been invited, and are interested, let me know.

ETA: I joined team BF, in the hopes of recruiting the greatest player ever on my team.
OK, this is a tournament that may actually start:http://www.warlight.net/App.aspx?TournamentID=470

5 man teams, East Asia map, single elimination. Anyone interested in joining the same team? At the moment, teams D, J and L have 4 empty spots.
I'll join a FBG team if someone can float me an invite.
 
fatguyinalittlecoat said:
Dragons said:
I'll join a FBG team if someone can float me an invite.
Looks like it's full. I'd like another FBG-only team tourney like that Round Robin one with the Asia map that's finishing up. That one has been a lot of fun.
I'll set another one up. I wish there was a way to randomize teams. Would everyone like assigned teams again, or to pick teams when joining?
 
fatguyinalittlecoat said:
Dragons said:
I'll join a FBG team if someone can float me an invite.
Looks like it's full. I'd like another FBG-only team tourney like that Round Robin one with the Asia map that's finishing up. That one has been a lot of fun.
I'll set another one up. I wish there was a way to randomize teams. Would everyone like assigned teams again, or to pick teams when joining?
Either way works for me.
 
pretty sure you can randomize teams.
In normal multiplayer games you can, but there's no option in tournaments.I suppose we could set up a normal multiplayer game, have it randomize teams, then we can all join the tournament according to that team.
 
fatguyinalittlecoat said:
Dragons said:
I'll join a FBG team if someone can float me an invite.
Looks like it's full. I'd like another FBG-only team tourney like that Round Robin one with the Asia map that's finishing up. That one has been a lot of fun.
I'll set another one up. I wish there was a way to randomize teams. Would everyone like assigned teams again, or to pick teams when joining?
I liked my team :tfp:
 
Question for the group, because it's come up in the last few round robins I've played with FBGs:

Do you think it's cheating to give information about the strength of an oppponent in a foggy game?

I think it's wrong. JoJo got out to a big lead in our game in Europe, and sidewinder ended up winning because everyone teamed up on JoJo. That was actually the second time I'd seen it happen to JoJo in as many games, too. I knew sidewinder was strong, but I kept my mouth shut, because part of the strategy in a game like that is to conceal your strength and use the fog to your advantage. JoJo then had a ton of people play sanction cards against him and he got beaten down on every front. That seems fine to me if there's no fog, but if you choose to use a game mechanic that was deliberately created to keep that information private, sharing that information, even publicly, seems wrong.

It came up in another recent game, too. Somebody started talking about how he was getting ganged up on by two players, and that they were probably going to win. Then he surrendered the next turn.

This isn't intended to discuss specific players or games in progress, because I don't think anyone has deliberately done anything wrong. The reason I bring it up is that I think it goes against the spirit of the game, but I don't want to continue to put myself at a disadvantage because I choose not to do it.

 
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Question for the group, because it's come up in the last few round robins I've played with FBGs:Do you think it's cheating to give information about the strength of an oppponent in a foggy game? I think it's wrong. JoJo got out to a big lead in our game in Europe, and sidewinder ended up winning because everyone teamed up on JoJo. That was actually the second time I'd seen it happen to JoJo in as many games, too. I knew sidewinder was strong, but I kept my mouth shut, because part of the strategy in a game like that is to conceal your strength and use the fog to your advantage. JoJo then had a ton of people play sanction cards against him and he got beaten down on every front. That seems fine to me if there's no fog, but if you choose to use a game mechanic that was deliberately created to keep that information private, sharing that information, even publicly, seems wrong. It came up in another recent game, too. Somebody started talking about how he was getting ganged up on by two players, and that they were probably going to win. Then he surrendered the next turn. This isn't intended to discuss specific players or games in progress, because I don't think anyone has deliberately done anything wrong. The reason I bring it up is that I think it goes against the spirit of the game, but I don't want to continue to put myself at a disadvantage because I choose not to do it.
I'll answer yours if you answer mine. Do you think this is wrong?:
Turn 19 Waiting on bostonfred for 3 hours 5 minutesTurn 37 Waiting on bostonfred for 36 days 12 hours
 
Question for the group, because it's come up in the last few round robins I've played with FBGs:Do you think it's cheating to give information about the strength of an oppponent in a foggy game? I think it's wrong. JoJo got out to a big lead in our game in Europe, and sidewinder ended up winning because everyone teamed up on JoJo. That was actually the second time I'd seen it happen to JoJo in as many games, too. I knew sidewinder was strong, but I kept my mouth shut, because part of the strategy in a game like that is to conceal your strength and use the fog to your advantage. JoJo then had a ton of people play sanction cards against him and he got beaten down on every front. That seems fine to me if there's no fog, but if you choose to use a game mechanic that was deliberately created to keep that information private, sharing that information, even publicly, seems wrong. It came up in another recent game, too. Somebody started talking about how he was getting ganged up on by two players, and that they were probably going to win. Then he surrendered the next turn. This isn't intended to discuss specific players or games in progress, because I don't think anyone has deliberately done anything wrong. The reason I bring it up is that I think it goes against the spirit of the game, but I don't want to continue to put myself at a disadvantage because I choose not to do it.
I'll answer yours if you answer mine. Do you think this is wrong?:
Turn 19 Waiting on bostonfred for 3 hours 5 minutesTurn 37 Waiting on bostonfred for 36 days 12 hours
:grad: Boot me. Or create a heads up game on a smaller map. I can make quick moves on small maps while getting work done. It's much harder to make moves in team games on huge maps with 20 different fronts to worry about.
 
Question for the group, because it's come up in the last few round robins I've played with FBGs:Do you think it's cheating to give information about the strength of an oppponent in a foggy game? I think it's wrong. JoJo got out to a big lead in our game in Europe, and sidewinder ended up winning because everyone teamed up on JoJo. That was actually the second time I'd seen it happen to JoJo in as many games, too. I knew sidewinder was strong, but I kept my mouth shut, because part of the strategy in a game like that is to conceal your strength and use the fog to your advantage. JoJo then had a ton of people play sanction cards against him and he got beaten down on every front. That seems fine to me if there's no fog, but if you choose to use a game mechanic that was deliberately created to keep that information private, sharing that information, even publicly, seems wrong. It came up in another recent game, too. Somebody started talking about how he was getting ganged up on by two players, and that they were probably going to win. Then he surrendered the next turn. This isn't intended to discuss specific players or games in progress, because I don't think anyone has deliberately done anything wrong. The reason I bring it up is that I think it goes against the spirit of the game, but I don't want to continue to put myself at a disadvantage because I choose not to do it.
I'll answer yours if you answer mine. Do you think this is wrong?:
Turn 19 Waiting on bostonfred for 3 hours 5 minutesTurn 37 Waiting on bostonfred for 36 days 12 hours
:lmao: Boot me. Or create a heads up game on a smaller map. I can make quick moves on small maps while getting work done. It's much harder to make moves in team games on huge maps with 20 different fronts to worry about.
I would never boot you. In answer to your question, I agree that sharing that sort of information violates the spirit of the game. One solution is for everyone to voluntarily stop doing it. Another is for everyone to start spreading misinformation as well, so it's impossible to tell which info is credible. I'm not sure which solution I prefer.
 
Yeah it's probably better if ppl don't spill the beans in fog games but even realizing that I think I talked too much in gen chat just through the course of commenting on the game.

Man, I felt like I was doing good for a little bit on the East Asia map but the last few games I have just gotten hammered. The game evolves, I tell ya

 
In answer to your question, I agree that sharing that sort of information violates the spirit of the game. One solution is for everyone to voluntarily stop doing it. Another is for everyone to start spreading misinformation as well, so it's impossible to tell which info is credible. I'm not sure which solution I prefer.
I would never spread misinformation in a shallow attempt to gain an advantage. If I post it, it's true.eta: muwahahahahahahhahahahaha
 
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Do you think it's cheating to give information about the strength of an oppponent in a foggy game?
I'm not sure it can technically be classified as cheating, but there is a "conflict of purposes", if you will, in having an open, public game chat and a foggy setting.If it bothers you (or anyone) I think the best way to counteract that situation is the misinformation route you suggested. I think part of the strategy in a game like this is acquiring intelligence and knowing more than your opponent. I think it would be perfectly acceptable to use misinformation as a method of maintaining a leg up on your opponent in the intelligence department.Besides, all is fair in love and war. :lmao:
 
Before I start the tourney, after I invite and we assign and join all the FBG teams, should I open invites to other people? Maybe add a few teams of Poles? Or should we keep it FBG only?

 
If anyone is on and would like to join a team game in Greece, my team has a slot open. Would prefer a FBG than a random dude!

ETA - I'm an idiot, because I intended to post the link. But Guderian joined anyway.

 
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