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New York Giants Vs. Dallas Cowboys (1 Viewer)

By the way, I Tivo'd the Dallas vs. Denver game.......if you'd like me to tape it for you and send it your way I'd do that. Denve won by a field goal and should have lost the game. It was evenly played, Denver was extremely fortunate to come out of that game with a win........kill I think not.
Coulda, woulda. shoulda. The game was in Dallas and the Broncos still won the game. End of story. Thanks for playing. :P
I don't think that was his point.His point was that the Broncos wouldn't kill the Cowboys in any situation. I don't see where he was whining at all in that post.
Oh, I know, but I am sick of these people who ##### when their team loses and tries to say the other team was lucky or fortunate to win the game.
And I'm saying, Cowboy is far from one of those people.I'm a Broncos fan, too, and I like giving Cowboy crap, but it's just not justified here.
Perhaps, but you don't say things like this, "Denver won by a field goal and should have lost the game. It was evenly played, Denver was extremely fortunate to come out of that game with a win," and expect every Bronco fans to just say, "gee whiz, you are right. My team was so lucky to beat you great team. Me feel so fortunate." :P
 
By the way, I Tivo'd the Dallas vs. Denver game.......if you'd like me to tape it for you and send it your way I'd do that. Denve won by a field goal and should have lost the game. It was evenly played, Denver was extremely fortunate to come out of that game with a win........kill I think not.
Coulda, woulda. shoulda. The game was in Dallas and the Broncos still won the game. End of story. Thanks for playing. :P
I don't think that was his point.His point was that the Broncos wouldn't kill the Cowboys in any situation. I don't see where he was whining at all in that post.
Oh, I know, but I am sick of these people who ##### when their team loses and tries to say the other team was lucky or fortunate to win the game.
And I'm saying, Cowboy is far from one of those people.I'm a Broncos fan, too, and I like giving Cowboy crap, but it's just not justified here.
Perhaps, but you don't say things like this, "Denver won by a field goal and should have lost the game. It was evenly played, Denver was extremely fortunate to come out of that game with a win," and expect every Bronco fans to just say, "gee whiz, you are right. My team was so lucky to beat you great team. Me feel so fortunate." :P
You can't tell me you don't feel fortunate that Dallas can't find a consistent kicker to save their lives. :)
 
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2 teams battling it out for the 4th seed in the NFC.

Kind of like watching 2 40 yr old spinsters duke it out over who's going to catch the bouquet at the reception while the younger, prettier things leave them in the dust.
Not sure how this is playing for fourth seed with five games left, but I will have to write this off as either knuckleheadedness or an attempt to stir the pot from the fan of a third team...
 
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By the way, I Tivo'd the Dallas vs. Denver game.......if you'd like me to tape it for you and send it your way I'd do that. Denve won by a field goal and should have lost the game. It was evenly played, Denver was extremely fortunate to come out of that game with a win........kill I think not.
Coulda, woulda. shoulda. The game was in Dallas and the Broncos still won the game. End of story. Thanks for playing. :P
I don't think that was his point.His point was that the Broncos wouldn't kill the Cowboys in any situation. I don't see where he was whining at all in that post.
Oh, I know, but I am sick of these people who ##### when their team loses and tries to say the other team was lucky or fortunate to win the game.
And I'm saying, Cowboy is far from one of those people.I'm a Broncos fan, too, and I like giving Cowboy crap, but it's just not justified here.
Perhaps, but you don't say things like this, "Denver won by a field goal and should have lost the game. It was evenly played, Denver was extremely fortunate to come out of that game with a win," and expect every Bronco fans to just say, "gee whiz, you are right. My team was so lucky to beat you great team. Me feel so fortunate." :P
You can't tell me you don't feel fortunate that Dallas can't find a consistent kicker to save their lives. :)
This is a foregone conclusion when it comes to Dallas teams. We are never to have a top 25 kicker even. It just isn't happening.
 
Count me in as well....Cowboys beat the Giants in the middle of the Meadow 31-17. I think one of the things that hasn't been mentioned is the return of Patrick Crayton. He was an absolute cructch to Bledsoe on 3rd downs and always seems to make a play. Bledsoe has even said that "he may have the best hands of any WR he's ever played with" which is huge in my eyes.

If Henry plays, Plex will be a non factor once again. One thing I noticed though is that in the first game Eli focused on Plex entirely too much up until the end of the 3rd quarter which is when he started to look for Shockey. I think this game Shockey will be his primary read...if this happens the Giants have a much better chance to win provided he can withstand the crushing blows of Trouble T-Roy for 4 full quarters.

 
Ghost Rider,I didn't mean to say Denver as lucky to win, just fortunate as Dallas would have been in that game if they won because it was pretty much an evenly played game I thought.I was just responding to Keys comment on Denve killing anyone in the NFC, which I know he was just trying to get a rise out of us.....which worked.Denver's a good team, probably the 2nd best team in the NFL right now. Unfortunately for them they're in the same side as Indy, not that they couldn't beat them on any given Sunday. Although I don't like what some of those Denver players will be thinking heading into that game, sort of like what Indy players would think in the back of their minds if they were to play New England. However, New England may not even get there, which is probably a good thing for Indy fans.Edit to add: Go Dallas, beat N.Y.

 
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I'm in on this sig bet. The Giants shoulda won AT seattle which is a much tougher game than the cowboys in the meadowlands. I think this is going to be a close game but Tiki and my giants come out on top.Please for the sake of George Carlin, I hope i'm right.

 
Perhaps, but you don't say things like this, "Denver won by a field goal and should have lost the game. It was evenly played, Denver was extremely fortunate to come out of that game with a win," and expect every Bronco fans to just say, "gee whiz, you are right. My team was so lucky to beat you great team. Me feel so fortunate." :P
2nd Philly game we were outplayed and should have rightfully lost. I can pull out a lot more positives from the loss to Denver than the win over Philly. Analysis is not the same as whining. I really hope Denver can get past Indy :lmao: and make it to the SB. It just means we have a good shot to win it. This time I will just have to hold a box of Krispy Kreme on the sideline so doughboy Dayne will run outta bounds instead of towards the endzone.

 
You can't tell me you don't feel fortunate that Dallas can't find a consistent kicker to save their lives. :)
Considering that the Cowboys only tied the game off a turnover where their guy recovered the ball while out of bound, I think Dallas should have felt fortunate to be the in the position where a FG would have given them the lead. :D
Ghost Rider,

I didn't mean to say Denver as lucky to win, just fortunate as Dallas would have been in that game if they won because it was pretty much an evenly played game I thought.

I was just responding to Keys comment on Denve killing anyone in the NFC, which I know he was just trying to get a rise out of us.....which worked.

Denver's a good team, probably the 2nd best team in the NFL right now. Unfortunately for them they're in the same side as Indy, not that they couldn't beat them on any given Sunday. Although I don't like what some of those Denver players will be thinking heading into that game, sort of like what Indy players would think in the back of their minds if they were to play New England. However, New England may not even get there, which is probably a good thing for Indy fans.
I see what you are saying and it is all good. :) And as a diehard Broncos fan, knowing that the Colts are above us is keeping me from getting too excited. This is the best Denver team since '98, but I do not think they can beat the Colts. The only hope I have is that the Broncos get the number 2 seed and that the Patriots get in and reeastablish their control over the Colts in the 2nd round, thereby giving Denver a home game in the AFC title game, assuming they win their 2nd round game.

 
Really it doesn't matter what your record is "Right Now" alot can change in the next five weeks. Five weeks ago just about everyone were pimping both the Skinz and Philly. I believe I was the only one that said the Giants would finish at the top of the NFC and I was told that I was wrong because of the Giants def. (It was an NFC poll thread I believe)The truth is the entire NFC, no matter what their "Record" is right now is too close to call. All the games I've seen out of the NFC, the team lost or won a very close game, there is absolutly no reason to believe this game will be different. Only because I'm a Cowboy fan.............I'm rooting for them.I believe it will come down to the play of Eli, he looks great sometimes, yet sometimes he looks shaky. Never the less, this will be a great game. :popcorn:Edit to add: I believe both SEA and Chi will prove to be smoke and mirrors and neither one will be in the NFC Championship game.

 
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Really it doesn't matter what your record is "Right Now" alot can change in the next five weeks. Five weeks ago just about everyone were pimping both the Skinz and Philly. I believe I was the only one that said the Giants would finish at the top of the NFC and I was told that I was wrong because of the Giants def. (It was an NFC poll thread I believe)

The truth is the entire NFC, no matter what their "Record" is right now is too close to call.
I agree and it is for this simple reason that I am surprised some are still saying the Bears have no shot come playoff time. A great defense is one thing you can always count on and the Bears have it, which gives them just as good a shot as any in the playoffs in the NFC.Edit: I don't see the Bears playing great defense as smoke and mirrors. Can you imagine what their defense would do to Drew Bledsoe at Soldier Field in January?

 
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Sig bets are the 2nd lamest thing on this planet.The first is Cowboys fans.Giants 24 Cowboys 13TIKI IS A MAN!!

 
Forgot my prediction ....Feely kicks the game winner ... achieves media and fan redemption.Dallas fans immediately begin whining about Giants extra home game in the aftermath.

 
Cowboys are over-rated but can still do well with that defence. I think the Giants will win and the Seatle game will be all but forgotten in the long run. Feeley is a very good kicker and should redeem himself.My moneys on the Giants and i think they will win.I wont even try to predict a score though.GO GIANTS!!!

 
Really it doesn't matter what your record is "Right Now" alot can change in the next five weeks. Five weeks ago just about everyone were pimping both the Skinz and Philly. I believe I was the only one that said the Giants would finish at the top of the NFC and I was told that I was wrong because of the Giants def. (It was an NFC poll thread I believe)

The truth is the entire NFC, no matter what their "Record" is right now is too close to call. 
I agree and it is for this simple reason that I am surprised some are still saying the Bears have no shot come playoff time. A great defense is one thing you can always count on and the Bears have it, which gives them just as good a shot as any in the playoffs in the NFC.Edit: I don't see the Bears playing great defense as smoke and mirrors. Can you imagine what their defense would do to Drew Bledsoe at Soldier Field in January?
Didn't mean that the defense is smoke and mirrors but I believe the record is, they have the best defense without a shadow of a doubt. As far as what they'll do against Bledsoe at Soldier Field, only time will tell but what makes you so sure it'll be at Soldier Field? :popcorn:
 
Sig bets are the 2nd lamest thing on this planet.

The first is Cowboys fans.

Giants 24 Cowboys 13

TIKI IS A MAN!!
Why is the always a need to insult another person or other people? Is this your best reply to insult somone?Someone of you are quicker to put down Cowboy fans or other fans for that matter and yet the first to say what we will do.

Case in point:

Forgot my prediction ....

Feely kicks the game winner ... achieves media and fan redemption.

Dallas fans immediately begin whining about Giants extra home game in the aftermath.
Why do you post without laying out your claim? How do you know what someone is going to do?These type of postings are so ####### frustrating. What, you guys can't make an arguement without putting someone down?

Post a good arguement or don't post at all. :hot:

 
How am I not making my claim? I just predicted the Giants would win by a field goal.Sorry to have hit on your sensitivities.The "exra home game" reference has become my favorite joke. It seems the Giants can't be given credit for anything they've done this season without some jackass bringing up the extra home game. Don't take it so personal

 
Forgot my prediction ....

Feely kicks the game winner ... achieves media and fan redemption.

Dallas fans immediately begin whining about Giants extra home game in the aftermath.
Could care less how many Giant home games there are. Cowboys :own3d: Giants in 05
 
Cowboys are over-rated but can still do well with that defence. I think the Giants will win and the Seatle game will be all but forgotten in the long run. Feeley is a very good kicker and should redeem himself.My moneys on the Giants and i think they will win.I wont even try to predict a score though.

GO GIANTS!!!
The Dallas Cowboys are 7-4. How are they overrated? They lost to Seattle, after winning just about the entire game. They lost to Washington after dominating most of that game. They lost to Denver after they had a chance to win but missed a very makeable field goal.If you win those games, youre 10-1. Now, then with that record I'd say Dallas is overrated........compared to other 10-1 teams in history.

However, at 7-4 Dallas is a very solid. They couldn't have been much worse than that......if anything underrated.

 
Can I just say that I'm already excited that I have Monday off........which means I'm going to have a few :banned: at a local sports bar with some buddies and have a few :2cents: on the game.Edit to Add: Pokes over G-Men

 
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The Cowboys win no problem; a minimum of 6 points. Why you ask?A) The Cowboys' Defense again holds Manning to below 50% completionsB) The Cowboys' Defense again holds Barber to less than 20 touches and 100 total yardsC) Bledsoe will pick apart the Giants secondary which is in the bottom 1/3 of the leagueD) The Cowboys will utilize Julius Jones more effectively than the RBBC of Barber and Thomas

 
Good point, but with Drew Bledsoe and no really young Wr's on their team they wont keep this up. The Giants are going to own the division for years to come. All i know is it should be a good game and both teams deserve to make the playoffs and probally will.

 
The Dallas Cowboys are 7-4. How are they overrated? They lost to Seattle, after winning just about the entire game. They lost to Washington after dominating most of that game. They lost to Denver after they had a chance to win but missed a very makeable field goal.

If you win those games, youre 10-1. Now, then with that record I'd say Dallas is overrated........compared to other 10-1 teams in history.

However, at 7-4 Dallas is a very solid. They couldn't have been much worse than that......if anything underrated.
In all fairness, Dallas was dominated by Philly a few weeks ago and won at the end, so that cancels out the Washington loss if you want to talk about close calls. And if Cundiff hits that FG last week, that doesn't mean Dallas would have automatically won the game. Remember the lack of urgency the Broncos showed on their last drive in regulation, almost like they were content to go to OT to decide it? Had they been trailing by 3, they obviously would have played that differently. And once again, please do not forget that Dallas' last TD came as the result of a turnover that shouldn't have counted.

And the Giants getting an extra home game did give them a competitive advantage, whether Giants' fans want to admit it or not.

 
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The Dallas Cowboys are 7-4.  How are they overrated?  They lost to Seattle, after winning just about the entire game.  They lost to Washington after dominating most of that game.  They lost to Denver after they had a chance to win but missed a very makeable field goal.

If you win those games, youre 10-1.  Now, then with that record I'd say Dallas is overrated........compared to other 10-1 teams in history.

However, at 7-4 Dallas is a very solid.  They couldn't have been much worse than that......if anything underrated.
In all fairness, Dallas was dominated by Philly a few weeks ago and won at the end, so that cancels out the Washington loss if you want to talk about close calls. And if Cundiff hits that FG last week, that doesn't mean Dallas would have automatically won the game. Remember the lack of urgency the Broncos showed on their last drive in regulation, almost like they were content to go to OT to decide it? Had they been trailing by 3, they obviously would have played that differently. And once again, please do not forget that Dallas' last TD came as the result of a turnover that shouldn't have counted.

And the Giants getting an extra home game did give them a competitive advantage, whether Giants' fans want to admit it or not.
Fair enough, I agree Dallas was outplayed in the Philly loss.
 
I was just responding to Keys comment on Denve killing anyone in the NFC, which I know he was just trying to get a rise out of us.....which worked.
I'm sorry. :P I had my fun for the day, I'm done.

 
I cannot BELIEVE how many people think Dallas will win this game in here.

Shocked.
Why? If the Vikings can win in New York, why can't Dallas? And don't give me this "Minnesota got lucky" garbage. A win is a win.
 
I know this is really going to chaff some butts, but the NFL doesn't begin or end in the NFC East.The winner of this game is no better than the 5th best team in the NFC, behind SEA, CHI, and the first & 2nd place teams in the NFC South. And the NFC is a weaker conference by a bit than the AFC.Facts is facts. The winner of this game is no more than playoff fodder. It ought to be an entertaining regular season game between two slightly better-than-average teams.

 
I know this is really going to chaff some butts, but the NFL doesn't begin or end in the NFC East.

The winner of this game is no better than the 5th best team in the NFC, behind SEA, CHI, and the first & 2nd place teams in the NFC South. And the NFC is a weaker conference by a bit than the AFC.

Facts is facts. The winner of this game is no more than playoff fodder. It ought to be an entertaining regular season game between two slightly better-than-average teams.
:fishing:
 
Dallas and the Giants are two very similar teams. Both have "old-time" coaches who believe in controlling the clock, playing good defense, and winning the turnover battle. Both have fairly balanced offenses. Both have pro bowl tight ends. Both have QBs taken #1 overall in the draft. Both have defenses that have been very good over the last month or so.In the first game this year, Dallas outgained the Gmen and won the time of possession battle. The Giants didnt mount any offense until the 4th quarter. It was a defensive battle that Dallas won in overtime.I expect much the same again this week. Both teams are playing well. Unless there are some unusual plays (like the Ron Dayne overtime run on Thanksgiving), I'd expect another low scoring outing. The Giant's two pro bowl calibur defensive ends are a big matchup problem for Dallas. Despite Unemiory's (SP) success against Walter Jones, I actually think Tucker will not be horrible against him. In the first matchup, with Tucker coming in for about a quarter after Flozell went down, Tucker did ok. Strahan, however, ate Pettiti for lunch the first time around and I don't expect much different here.I also expect Plaxico to have a better game than last time. Henry is not yet ready. He missed practice yesterday. Aaron Glenn, all 5'9" of him, will play Plaxico tougher than most think. He really did an excellent job on the big Lions' receivers a couple of weeks ago, even on jump-ball type throws. But as good as he is, Plaxico does have 8 inches on him, or so. A redzone look or two is coming Plaxico's way, I expect.Shockey also will probably have a better game. Last time, Dallas put Newman on him for the first 3 quarters. Newman shut him down as he has just about every other receiver this year. (Newman hasnt been getting much love from the media this year, but he has been playing at an all-pro level corner this year.) With Henry likely out or at least ineffective, Newman will have to be used on the outside. So Shockey will likely draw a safety, none of whom are that great in coverage for Dallas. A decent game for Shockey seems in order.I don't expect a big game from Tiki. Something about like last time. What, 20 touches and about 70 yards? He certainly can break one though. But I don't like the odds of it happening. If it does, it will most likely be to the right where Dallas is really struggling to get effective play out of the LOLB spot.So where does this leave us? Probably a more even game in terms of time of possession and number of plays. A defensive struggle. Big plays will play a big part. The team that gets a breakaway TD, a return TD, etc., will most likely win. If not, it comes down to the kickers. Given their respective performances last week, the game may end in a tie.Regardless, I am looking forward to it. As a big cowboy fan, I expect a good game from them. And I will hazard a sig bet for anyone willing to bet against me.Cowboys in a close one. 17-13.

 
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I know this is really going to chaff some butts, but the NFL doesn't begin or end in the NFC East.

The winner of this game is no better than the 5th best team in the NFC, behind SEA, CHI, and the first & 2nd place teams in the NFC South. And the NFC is a weaker conference by a bit than the AFC.

Facts is facts. The winner of this game is no more than playoff fodder. It ought to be an entertaining regular season game between two slightly better-than-average teams.
Assuming the 2 wild cards are the 2nd place team in the East and South I wouldn't rule any of the NFC Teams from advancing to the SuperBowl. Out of this list are any of these teams decisively better than the other?Seattle, Chicago, Carolina, Tampa, NY or Dallas? Hell, throw Atlanta in there if you really want. My point is any of these teams could eliminate the other in a playoff game, no matter where it's played.

In three pages of this thread I didn't see anybody chestthumping the NFC East as the best in football. I did see fans on opposite sides of the rivalry getting pumped for the matchup. Sort of odd that you seemingly care so little about the game but felt it so important to share your opinion on it.

 
No way Dallas loses this game. They'll shut down Plaxico, control the line and pound Tiki, and pick off Manning at least once. Look for big passing plays to the Dallas receivers, maybe a quick, long score from Bledsoe to Glenn. Bledsoe will have his share of picks and sacks, but will get the job done. Perhaps most concerning to me is how the Dallas running game will function, but I think Jones and Barber will prevail.Cowboys beats the Giants 24-17 -- and I'm in for any sig bet. :boxing:

 
Unfortunately for the Cowboys they don't get to play week 5 road Eli again. They have to face week 13 home Eli, which they will learn (the hard way) is not the same thing. A coin toss will not save them this time.Question: When will it become painfully obvious to the entire Cowboy nation that their prospects (for this season and beyond) are severly limited by a QB who is 10 years past his prime?Answer: Sunday, December 4, 2005Final Score: Giants 27 - Cowboys 19

 
Question: When will it become painfully obvious to the entire Cowboy nation that their prospects (for this season and beyond) are severly limited by a QB who is 10 years past his prime?

Answer: Sunday, December 4, 2005
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :thumbup:
 
Question: When will it become painfully obvious to the entire Cowboy nation that their prospects (for this season and beyond) are severly limited by a QB who is 10 years past his prime?

Answer: Sunday, December 4, 2005
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :thumbup:
Construction Jim called it, baby!!!!!
 
As I said, 4 turnovers would be a big problem for the Cowboys. Now we all know who the best defense in the NFC East is.The Giants :own3d: the 'pokes.Funny thing is where are all the loud mouth 'boys fans that were posting in this thread before the game. You're lucky we didn't set any parameters for the signiture bet.Just know that you and your second place team were :own3d: by the first place New York Giants... :banned:

 
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While the Cowboys certainly played poorly, this might have been Eli's worst games - and the passing games worst effort of the year. One of the worst two, at least. Even so, we found a way to win. The Defense was unreal. Anyone know if Pierce is ok? Looked like cramps but want to make sure.tia

 
Now introducing your NFC champions....

New York Football Giants!

alright maybe im jumping the gun a bit.
Um, considering they are the worst division leader in the NFC, I would think so.
Record wise, or team wise?I think the Giants are a better team than the Bears (yes, Bears have a great defense, but no offense at all. Their D might have trouble with the Giants many weapons, if they get a kicker).

Seattle and the Giants are just about even, as demonstrated last week.

I would have to say the Carolina is probably the best division leader, but in reality, I dont see much difference between the Giants, Carolina and Seattle. All three are good, not great. One should emerge.

Dont count out Minny and the Cowboys especially, nor Vick. Pretty much 5-6 teams that are all pretty good and not much better nor worse than each other.

Looking forward, however, the Giants next year should be that much better with another year for Eli and the anticipated improvement (via FA, trade or draft) for the corners. :thumbup:

 

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