NFC Championship GB@Seattle (3 Viewers)

[TDorBust]

I still take Rodgers over anyone. Let's see how Seattle does once Russell is making top dollar. He makes what? 5% or what Other top Qbs make? That's why I hope Seattle wins. He'll be one of the highest paid players in the NFL is he wins another super bowl.

I'll take Russell over him. He is 3-0 against Rodgers now.

If they switched teams do you still take Wilson?

I think in that scenario, Rodgers is 3-0 vs Wilson.

I do. He's younger, has the most wins through his first 3 years in NFL history, more mobile, 10-0 against Superbowl winning QBs, has more comeback wins in his career than Rodgers (15 to 11), has the same number of playoff wins and far fewer losses.

After Sunday I can see why Wilson has more comebacks. Don't you believe the Seahawks were a better team by a long shot? So the Packers even being in the game was a miracle that Rodgers and team allowed. Wilson threw a few interceptions to allow himself to chalk up another comeback.

Comeback more like blown game by Wilson with the last couple of mins being good for him.

ImTheScientist response? Just wondering your thoughts?

 

[thatguythere]

Seattle was the bettercte for sure. What I find funny is the articles stating it wasn't one play that did the Packers in. It wasn't Bosticka fault, wasn't Slocum or Mccarthys fault, wasn't Ha Has fault. The left a lot of plays out there. Blah blah blah. That type of thinking smacks of lack of accountability. In reality it was every single one of those guys' faults. Because another guy failed, doesn't mean you didn't fail. Losers talk like that.

The thing is, only Bostick stood up and took the blame. Good on him for that. Maybe he's the only one on that team with the true heart of a champion. Rodgers didn't take blame. He said "we" all the time. He's the one that threw the puck to start the game and missed Jordy. McCarthy never takes any blame. Thompson hasn't said anything at all. Ha ha hasn't said a peep. Hawk hasn't talked about bagging up the fake field goal.

Only Bostick has taken his lumps.

Thus meltdown didn't happen to the Packers. They did it. They screwed the pooch. The "we" didn't capitalize mentality is merely a BS line the losers use to escape blame.

To me this attitude starts at the top doesn't it?

Absolutely. Starts with McCarthy and Thompson. The difference between McCarthy and Thompson in my opinion is humility. Thompson has it, McCarthy does not.

Yep, and it trickles down through the team and the fan base. Makes it easy to dislike the team and the fans when a large percentage (read: not all) are so blatantly arrogant. I really don't see it as much up here with the Michigan Packer fans, so it must be something in the water. Or maybe they are just acting like their coach.

 

[MG345]

Also, Seattle homers, I've been wondering lately about the development of Cassius Marsh... Any of you guys care to chime in? That dude, if he ever becomes a legit player, he's going to be scary. He has the meanest mean steak I think I've ever seen.

Cassius Marsh was actually really starting to come on when he was hurt. It wasn't showing up in the stat sheet, but he was getting consistent pressure coming off the bench. He kinda looks like he will be a Michael Bennett clone, if he continues to improve.

Looked to me like GB was in a fake-aware formation on the fake FG but Hawk totally abandoned his responsibility. Even if the DL didn't prevent a first down, no way the holder was going to score

I've read all the comment about this. The mechanics of the play; who takes the blame, etc. I just watched this again about 10 times (it's on NFLN right now).... bottom line, if Hawk runs with the 400-lb. eligible receiver, Green Bay wins. Ryan may get the corner, but he has ZERO shot to run for the 1st down and nobody else to throw the ball to. Hawk's lack of discipline made that play happen.

This play was designed as an option to isolate whoever was in coverage on either side. It was predicated on where GB's LB Jones lined up, and could be run either way to Gilliam or to Willson. So in this particular case, it isolated Hawk and regardless of which choice he makes, it is the wrong one. The reason why this play works is because a lot of people underestimate Jon Ryan. He is a hell of athlete, RB/WR in HS, played WR in college and in the CFL, the guy is no slouch running the ball. There was almost no chance Davon House catches up to Ryan before he has a legit shot at picking up the first down. Ryan supposedly ran a 4.4 40yd dash, I mean the guy is NOT slow. Hawk was the only one that had a real chance of stopping the run, and I think it was the right choice. Ryan has never thrown a TD in his career, and Hawk forced him to throw on the run without his feet set in a high pressure situation. He had a better chance of rattling Ryan to force an incomplete, than House did of catching Ryan from behind before he picked up the first.

Ultimately, it was just a really well designed play that took advantage of GB's tendency to have Jones crash hard on the kick. Seattle's special team coaches are putting in some work in back to back weeks.

 

[Sabertooth]

Also, Seattle homers, I've been wondering lately about the development of Cassius Marsh... Any of you guys care to chime in? That dude, if he ever becomes a legit player, he's going to be scary. He has the meanest mean steak I think I've ever seen.

Cassius Marsh was actually really starting to come on when he was hurt. It wasn't showing up in the stat sheet, but he was getting consistent pressure coming off the bench. He kinda looks like he will be a Michael Bennett clone, if he continues to improve.

Looked to me like GB was in a fake-aware formation on the fake FG but Hawk totally abandoned his responsibility. Even if the DL didn't prevent a first down, no way the holder was going to score

I've read all the comment about this. The mechanics of the play; who takes the blame, etc. I just watched this again about 10 times (it's on NFLN right now).... bottom line, if Hawk runs with the 400-lb. eligible receiver, Green Bay wins. Ryan may get the corner, but he has ZERO shot to run for the 1st down and nobody else to throw the ball to. Hawk's lack of discipline made that play happen.

This play was designed as an option to isolate whoever was in coverage on either side. It was predicated on where GB's LB Jones lined up, and could be run either way to Gilliam or to Willson. So in this particular case, it isolated Hawk and regardless of which choice he makes, it is the wrong one. The reason why this play works is because a lot of people underestimate Jon Ryan. He is a hell of athlete, RB/WR in HS, played WR in college and in the CFL, the guy is no slouch running the ball. There was almost no chance Davon House catches up to Ryan before he has a legit shot at picking up the first down. Ryan supposedly ran a 4.4 40yd dash, I mean the guy is NOT slow. Hawk was the only one that had a real chance of stopping the run, and I think it was the right choice. Ryan has never thrown a TD in his career, and Hawk forced him to throw on the run without his feet set in a high pressure situation. He had a better chance of rattling Ryan to force an incomplete, than House did of catching Ryan from behind before he picked up the first.

Ultimately, it was just a really well designed play that took advantage of GB's tendency to have Jones crash hard on the kick. Seattle's special team coaches are putting in some work in back to back weeks.

If Hawk runs with the wideout, that play fails. Also I think the Packers probably know about Jon Ryan's athletic ability seeing as he was on the team in 2008.

 

[theplayer11]

I still take Rodgers over anyone. Let's see how Seattle does once Russell is making top dollar. He makes what? 5% or what Other top Qbs make? That's why I hope Seattle wins. He'll be one of the highest paid players in the NFL is he wins another super bowl.

I'll take Russell over him. He is 3-0 against Rodgers now.

oh jeez..another who thinks QBs play each other..Team sport

 

[MG345]

Also, Seattle homers, I've been wondering lately about the development of Cassius Marsh... Any of you guys care to chime in? That dude, if he ever becomes a legit player, he's going to be scary. He has the meanest mean steak I think I've ever seen.

Cassius Marsh was actually really starting to come on when he was hurt. It wasn't showing up in the stat sheet, but he was getting consistent pressure coming off the bench. He kinda looks like he will be a Michael Bennett clone, if he continues to improve.

Looked to me like GB was in a fake-aware formation on the fake FG but Hawk totally abandoned his responsibility. Even if the DL didn't prevent a first down, no way the holder was going to score

I've read all the comment about this. The mechanics of the play; who takes the blame, etc. I just watched this again about 10 times (it's on NFLN right now).... bottom line, if Hawk runs with the 400-lb. eligible receiver, Green Bay wins. Ryan may get the corner, but he has ZERO shot to run for the 1st down and nobody else to throw the ball to. Hawk's lack of discipline made that play happen.

This play was designed as an option to isolate whoever was in coverage on either side. It was predicated on where GB's LB Jones lined up, and could be run either way to Gilliam or to Willson. So in this particular case, it isolated Hawk and regardless of which choice he makes, it is the wrong one. The reason why this play works is because a lot of people underestimate Jon Ryan. He is a hell of athlete, RB/WR in HS, played WR in college and in the CFL, the guy is no slouch running the ball. There was almost no chance Davon House catches up to Ryan before he has a legit shot at picking up the first down. Ryan supposedly ran a 4.4 40yd dash, I mean the guy is NOT slow. Hawk was the only one that had a real chance of stopping the run, and I think it was the right choice. Ryan has never thrown a TD in his career, and Hawk forced him to throw on the run without his feet set in a high pressure situation. He had a better chance of rattling Ryan to force an incomplete, than House did of catching Ryan from behind before he picked up the first.

Ultimately, it was just a really well designed play that took advantage of GB's tendency to have Jones crash hard on the kick. Seattle's special team coaches are putting in some work in back to back weeks.

If Hawk runs with the wideout, that play fails. Also I think the Packers probably know about Jon Ryan's athletic ability seeing as he was on the team in 2008.

So you think a stumbling House catches Jon Ryan in a full sprint? Likely not. I know Ryan was a member of the Packers, hell he gave the discount double check to the GB sideline when he scored. Just because he was a team member doesn't mean that any particular player (House specifically) respect his speed.

Either way, we know the outcome. Everything else is just conjecture. I was at the game, I had a great vantage point on the play, House was not going to catch him IMO and Hawk made the best play he could.

 

[Neofight]

You are a terrible person if you don't pull for Russell Wilson.

I'll own it. I'm horrible. The guy comes across like Marinovich 2.0.

What the what?

Dude has about as much in common with the Hubble Telescope as he does with Todd Marinovich

Bred by his dad to be a quarterback. He is a much better player than Todd M, but every time he opens his mouth, all I hear is "This is what a leader is supposed to say, because I am a leader, and as a leader I will say what a leader is supposed to say. This has been a pre-recorded message." Dad was so fanatic about breeding a QB, he even got his meal ticket to be media savvy.

Good job, pops. You just earned your way into a nicer assisted living center.

Daddy issues?

 

[ImTheScientist]

I still take Rodgers over anyone. Let's see how Seattle does once Russell is making top dollar. He makes what? 5% or what Other top Qbs make? That's why I hope Seattle wins. He'll be one of the highest paid players in the NFL is he wins another super bowl.

I'll take Russell over him. He is 3-0 against Rodgers now.

oh jeez..another who thinks QBs play each other..Team sport

Did Rodgers do this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx2pcCQlr28

I don't think so. Champions close......pretenders dont.

 

[Wingnut]

This thread has become pretty hilarious.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Lots of pics from the all-22 coming out now. It sure looks like Burnett had room to run after the int. Peppers reportedly told him to go down. Its hard to criticize given the game was almost certainly over at that point by any reasonable measure.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B70maYKIIAAAN6m.jpg:large

Here's a moment later, when he slides - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B70nCRxIIAA5Fj3.jpg:large

Could Burnett get the edge on those linemen? If Peppers turns and blocks, it seems likely.

 

[thatguy]

Lots of pics from the all-22 coming out now. It sure looks like Burnett had room to run after the int. Peppers reportedly told him to go down. Its hard to criticize given the game was almost certainly over at that point by any reasonable measure.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B70maYKIIAAAN6m.jpg:large

Here's a moment later, when he slides - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B70nCRxIIAA5Fj3.jpg:large

Could Burnett get the edge on those linemen? If Peppers turns and blocks, it seems likely.

Wow. Without a single block he probably gets close to 15 yards. With solid blocking, FG range. Great blocking and making a few guys miss, he could have scored. Unreal. I mean I understand being safe, but he could have picked up 10-15 more yards before even having to worry about contact.

 

[SproutDaddy]

I still take Rodgers over anyone. Let's see how Seattle does once Russell is making top dollar. He makes what? 5% or what Other top Qbs make? That's why I hope Seattle wins. He'll be one of the highest paid players in the NFL is he wins another super bowl.

I'll take Russell over him. He is 3-0 against Rodgers now.

Right. Because it's a 1 man team.

 

[Freelove]

I still take Rodgers over anyone. Let's see how Seattle does once Russell is making top dollar. He makes what? 5% or what Other top Qbs make? That's why I hope Seattle wins. He'll be one of the highest paid players in the NFL is he wins another super bowl.

I'll take Russell over him. He is 3-0 against Rodgers now.

If they switched teams do you still take Wilson?

I think in that scenario, Rodgers is 3-0 vs Wilson.

I do. He's younger, has the most wins through his first 3 years in NFL history, more mobile, 10-0 against Superbowl winning QBs, has more comeback wins in his career than Rodgers (15 to 11), has the same number of playoff wins and far fewer losses.

After Sunday I can see why Wilson has more comebacks. Don't you believe the Seahawks were a better team by a long shot? So the Packers even being in the game was a miracle that Rodgers and team allowed. Wilson threw a few interceptions to allow himself to chalk up another comeback.

Comeback more like blown game by Wilson with the last couple of mins being good for him.

ImTheScientist response? Just wondering your thoughts?

If Andrew Luck and Russell Wilson switch teams, the Hawks are 15-1, and the Colts are 4-12.

You can't manage a game from behind.

 

[The Kerminator]

The Seahawks played the Packers twice this year, went 2-0 with a cumulative score of 64-38 - a 13 point average margin of victory. If you are not a packers fan, it's pretty clear who the better team is.

By this same logic, the Chargers, Chiefs and Cowboys are all better teams than the Seahawks. If your not a Seahawks fan, it's pretty clear who the better team is.

Jesus let it go. The Seahawks are the better team since they won the game. Any talk of the Packers outplayed them crap for 3 quarters is just sour grapes.

Merely pointing out that the poster's logic why Seattle was the better team is flawed.

Lots of pics from the all-22 coming out now. It sure looks like Burnett had room to run after the int. Peppers reportedly told him to go down. Its hard to criticize given the game was almost certainly over at that point by any reasonable measure.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B70maYKIIAAAN6m.jpg:large

Here's a moment later, when he slides - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B70nCRxIIAA5Fj3.jpg:large

Could Burnett get the edge on those linemen? If Peppers turns and blocks, it seems likely.

I saw this earlier. Makes me even sicker. Everybody likes to condemn Bostick but what was Burnett thinking?

 

[MaxThreshold]

The Seahawks played the Packers twice this year, went 2-0 with a cumulative score of 64-38 - a 13 point average margin of victory. If you are not a packers fan, it's pretty clear who the better team is.

By this same logic, the Chargers, Chiefs and Cowboys are all better teams than the Seahawks. If your not a Seahawks fan, it's pretty clear who the better team is.

Jesus let it go. The Seahawks are the better team since they won the game. Any talk of the Packers outplayed them crap for 3 quarters is just sour grapes.

Merely pointing out that the poster's logic why Seattle was the better team is flawed.

Lots of pics from the all-22 coming out now. It sure looks like Burnett had room to run after the int. Peppers reportedly told him to go down. Its hard to criticize given the game was almost certainly over at that point by any reasonable measure.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B70maYKIIAAAN6m.jpg:large

Here's a moment later, when he slides - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B70nCRxIIAA5Fj3.jpg:large

Could Burnett get the edge on those linemen? If Peppers turns and blocks, it seems likely.

I saw this earlier. Makes me even sicker. Everybody likes to condemn Bostick but what was Burnett thinking?

The fact is that there were MULTIPLE instances where the Packers should have put their foot on the throat of the Hawks and crushed it, but they didn't. From McCarthy's play calling, to Capers DEF collapsing to players not doing their job or becoming too relaxed because they thought they won.

Bostick is the easy scapegoat, but there was too many other things to point to that all played into that EPIC defeat.

 

[Mario Kart]

Lots of pics from the all-22 coming out now. It sure looks like Burnett had room to run after the int. Peppers reportedly told him to go down. Its hard to criticize given the game was almost certainly over at that point by any reasonable measure.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B70maYKIIAAAN6m.jpg:large

Here's a moment later, when he slides - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B70nCRxIIAA5Fj3.jpg:large

Could Burnett get the edge on those linemen? If Peppers turns and blocks, it seems likely.

That is just terrible. Wish I didn't see that picture.

 

[Neofight]

I still take Rodgers over anyone. Let's see how Seattle does once Russell is making top dollar. He makes what? 5% or what Other top Qbs make? That's why I hope Seattle wins. He'll be one of the highest paid players in the NFL is he wins another super bowl.

I'll take Russell over him. He is 3-0 against Rodgers now.

If they switched teams do you still take Wilson?I think in that scenario, Rodgers is 3-0 vs Wilson.

I do. He's younger, has the most wins through his first 3 years in NFL history, more mobile, 10-0 against Superbowl winning QBs, has more comeback wins in his career than Rodgers (15 to 11), has the same number of playoff wins and far fewer losses.

After Sunday I can see why Wilson has more comebacks. Don't you believe the Seahawks were a better team by a long shot? So the Packers even being in the game was a miracle that Rodgers and team allowed. Wilson threw a few interceptions to allow himself to chalk up another comeback.Comeback more like blown game by Wilson with the last couple of mins being good for him.

ImTheScientist response? Just wondering your thoughts?

If Andrew Luck and Russell Wilson switch teams, the Hawks are 15-1, and the Colts are 4-12. You can't manage a game from behind.

Wilson has more 4th Qtr comeback victories than Luck, and rarely makes the mental mistakes Luck makes with regularity (i.e. Luck plays from behind due to his own error much of the time). And yet, when Wilson goes out and has a Luck-y game, he still manages to march his team 87 yards downfield in 6 plays for the game winning OT TD.

 

[mrmits]

The more I think about it, I'm loving how a 12-4 team with the best offensive AND best defensive player left playing, is set up as the underdog.

Who do you think your best defensive player is? I know two names worth talking about but I don't think they particularly would be even better than their Seattle counterparts--and those two aren't who I would call the best defensive players Seattle has...

Best Defensive player in the NFL not named Watt is Clay Matthews .... fact.

Matthews was "exhausted"?

 

[The General]

The more I think about it, I'm loving how a 12-4 team with the best offensive AND best defensive player left playing, is set up as the underdog.

Who do you think your best defensive player is? I know two names worth talking about but I don't think they particularly would be even better than their Seattle counterparts--and those two aren't who I would call the best defensive players Seattle has...

Best Defensive player in the NFL not named Watt is Clay Matthews .... fact.

Matthews was "exhausted"?

His hair looked fabulous though.

 

[Neofight]

The more I think about it, I'm loving how a 12-4 team with the best offensive AND best defensive player left playing, is set up as the underdog.

Who do you think your best defensive player is? I know two names worth talking about but I don't think they particularly would be even better than their Seattle counterparts--and those two aren't who I would call the best defensive players Seattle has...

Best Defensive player in the NFL not named Watt is Clay Matthews .... fact.

Matthews was "exhausted"?

I noticed this during the game. Figured he needed some keratin therapy.

 

[Sabertooth]

Lots of pics from the all-22 coming out now. It sure looks like Burnett had room to run after the int. Peppers reportedly told him to go down. Its hard to criticize given the game was almost certainly over at that point by any reasonable measure.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B70maYKIIAAAN6m.jpg:large

Here's a moment later, when he slides - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B70nCRxIIAA5Fj3.jpg:large

Could Burnett get the edge on those linemen? If Peppers turns and blocks, it seems likely.

Wow. Without a single block he probably gets close to 15 yards. With solid blocking, FG range. Great blocking and making a few guys miss, he could have scored. Unreal. I mean I understand being safe, but he could have picked up 10-15 more yards before even having to worry about contact.

Makes you wonder if the coaches told them to down the ball if they picked it.

 

[Sabertooth]

Weird that the Seahawks never really did squat when he was on the field.

 

[Neofight]

Weird that the Seahawks never really did squat when he was on the field.

He'll have all off season to ponder what could have been.

ETA: He played the OT. Didn't have time to get winded, one would imagine.

 

[The General]

Weird that the Seahawks never really did squat when he was on the field.

If only he didn't get tired.

 

[Hooper31]

Weird that the Seahawks never really did squat when he was on the field.

87 yard drive in OT not count?

 

[MarcO]

At the risk of beating a dead horse...

http://www.fieldgulls.com/seahawks-analysis/2015/1/20/7863311/seahawks-packers-super-bowl-nfl-the-better-team

Fun fact: In last year's Super Bowl, the Broncos gained 306 yards of offense on 65 plays from scrimmage. In Sunday's NFCCG, the Packers gained 306 yards of offense on 65 plays from scrimmage.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Great story here:

Emotions ran high as the Seattle Seahawks played the Green Bay Packers on Sunday, in which the Seahawks pulled ahead at the last minute to become the NFC Champions and a Super Bowl team for the second year in a row. The Packers carried the game, leading 16-0 until Seattle came out of nowhere and just kept on scoring. They took the game into overtime, where a touchdown made the final score, 28-22. And the crowd went wild.

As Seahawk fans cheered and Packers fans sat stunned, one young Packers fan was glad to see his rivals take the gold. Because he knew one fan needed it.

Early Monday morning, a 55-year-old dad from Orlando took to Craigslist to publicly thank Seattle for helping his 10-year-old son find peace after the death of his dog, reported Q13 FOX. The father and son duo unexpectedly received game tickets from a friend, which put them on a plane and in Seahawk territory. As fate would have it, they sat next to a Seattle family, and light banter made for an enjoyable experience.

Recommended: How much do you know about the Seattle Seahawks?

The boy chatted with the family’s 12-year-old daughter throughout the game, and their interaction shows how empathy can unite even the biggest—or smallest—rivals.


“We all know that the Packers played a great game but a win was not to be had. After Seattle scored in overtime I noticed the young girl was crying and still sitting in her seat. Her father talked to her and gave her a hug,” the father said in his letter.

When they left, he asked the other dad if she was crying for joy. He answered ‘no.’

“She was crying because she wanted the Packers to win because she knew my son had lost his dog and she thought he needed this more than she did.”

Upon arriving home, the family was having dinner when the son said he was glad that Seattle won. Surprised, the father asked why, and his son’s answer showed him the depth of the moment the kids had shared.

“He looked at me and told me the girl sitting next to him had lost her cat to a dog attack only the day before and he wanted her to have something to help her feel better,” the father said in his open letter. “Football will never be the same to me. So Thank You Seattle for the great game, and Thank You God for putting so much love for others to these two young people.”

He concludes his letter by wishing them all the best in Super Bowl XLIX, but also sends a playful warning for next season.

“The Pack Will Be Back!”

 

[Limp Ditka]

I turned this game off 2 days ago. Is it really still going on?

 

[MG345]

Also, Seattle homers, I've been wondering lately about the development of Cassius Marsh... Any of you guys care to chime in? That dude, if he ever becomes a legit player, he's going to be scary. He has the meanest mean steak I think I've ever seen.

Cassius Marsh was actually really starting to come on when he was hurt. It wasn't showing up in the stat sheet, but he was getting consistent pressure coming off the bench. He kinda looks like he will be a Michael Bennett clone, if he continues to improve.

Looked to me like GB was in a fake-aware formation on the fake FG but Hawk totally abandoned his responsibility. Even if the DL didn't prevent a first down, no way the holder was going to score

I've read all the comment about this. The mechanics of the play; who takes the blame, etc. I just watched this again about 10 times (it's on NFLN right now).... bottom line, if Hawk runs with the 400-lb. eligible receiver, Green Bay wins. Ryan may get the corner, but he has ZERO shot to run for the 1st down and nobody else to throw the ball to. Hawk's lack of discipline made that play happen.

This play was designed as an option to isolate whoever was in coverage on either side. It was predicated on where GB's LB Jones lined up, and could be run either way to Gilliam or to Willson. So in this particular case, it isolated Hawk and regardless of which choice he makes, it is the wrong one. The reason why this play works is because a lot of people underestimate Jon Ryan. He is a hell of athlete, RB/WR in HS, played WR in college and in the CFL, the guy is no slouch running the ball. There was almost no chance Davon House catches up to Ryan before he has a legit shot at picking up the first down. Ryan supposedly ran a 4.4 40yd dash, I mean the guy is NOT slow. Hawk was the only one that had a real chance of stopping the run, and I think it was the right choice. Ryan has never thrown a TD in his career, and Hawk forced him to throw on the run without his feet set in a high pressure situation. He had a better chance of rattling Ryan to force an incomplete, than House did of catching Ryan from behind before he picked up the first.

Ultimately, it was just a really well designed play that took advantage of GB's tendency to have Jones crash hard on the kick. Seattle's special team coaches are putting in some work in back to back weeks.

If Hawk runs with the wideout, that play fails. Also I think the Packers probably know about Jon Ryan's athletic ability seeing as he was on the team in 2008.

So you think a stumbling House catches Jon Ryan in a full sprint? Likely not. I know Ryan was a member of the Packers, hell he gave the discount double check to the GB sideline when he scored. Just because he was a team member doesn't mean that any particular player (House specifically) respect his speed.

Either way, we know the outcome. Everything else is just conjecture. I was at the game, I had a great vantage point on the play, House was not going to catch him IMO and Hawk made the best play he could.

https://vine.co/v/OIqIXlOL0ZF

 

[Snoopy]

Now for the fall guy: Packers release special teams coordinator Slocum

 

[sho nuff]

Now for the fall guy: Packers release special teams coordinator Slocum

To be fair...he should have fallen several years ago.

 

[Sabertooth]

Hope Capers is next. Then Bostick.

 

[mrmits]

they fired the wrong guy

 

[sho nuff]

they fired the wrong guy

Not really.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Now for the fall guy: Packers release special teams coordinator Slocum

For as much as went wrong the Packers in the last few minutes of the game, that fake FG/TD by Seattle was terrible coaching by GB. At that point, you concede the FG and make sure you don't get burned by a fake...and they did. Seattle is known for trickery when it comes to stuff like that, yet the Packers special teams were still completely fooled. A terrible gaffe.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

they fired the wrong guy

Not really.

From ESPN Wisconsin:

Since Slocum replaced Stock in 2009, the Packers have ranked 31st in 2009, 29th in 2010, tied for 13th in 2011, 12th in 2012, 20th in 2013 and now 32nd. When they ranked 29th in 2010, it tied them with the 2009 New Orleans Saints for the lowest ranking ever for a Super Bowl champion.

Slocum was special teams coordinator for 6 years. The average rating of the special teams during his tenure was 23rd. If that doesn't get you fired, I don't know what does.

 

[sho nuff]

they fired the wrong guy

Not really.

From ESPN Wisconsin:

Since Slocum replaced Stock in 2009, the Packers have ranked 31st in 2009, 29th in 2010, tied for 13th in 2011, 12th in 2012, 20th in 2013 and now 32nd. When they ranked 29th in 2010, it tied them with the 2009 New Orleans Saints for the lowest ranking ever for a Super Bowl champion.

Slocum was special teams coordinator for 6 years. The average rating of the special teams during his tenure was 23rd. If that doesn't get you fired, I don't know what does.

Exactly...he should have been gone a few years ago.

As for Capers next...maybe, I don't see him being fired. Maybe "resigning/retiring"...just don't see MM firing him. He coached a decent season and for much of that game coached well. The 3rd and long rushing only 2ish was inexcusable though.

 

[Sabertooth]

Capers blows. Can him. He and Bostick can share a cab down to Chicago. Bums. I still can't believe they didn't release Bostick right away. He didn't just screw up, he historically ignored his job and cost his employer dearly. #### him.

 

[sho nuff]

Capers blows. Can him. He and Bostick can share a cab down to Chicago. Bums. I still can't believe they didn't release Bostick right away. He didn't just screw up, he historically ignored his job and cost his employer dearly. #### him.

Why would they cut a young guy now for making that mistake?

Just dumb reasoning and a dumb emotional response.

 

[Sabertooth]

Meh he's trash. He's what the third string tight end behind a journeyman and a rookie? Those guys need to contribute in special teams. What he did was the opposite of contributing. He flew too close to the sun and his wings melted. Let him stink for somebody else.

Being young is one thing but he's 25. Cut him and show you'll hold players accountable.

Careful what you wish for Brandon. You wanted to be remembered for that play, that's why you went for it, and you will. Now you get to be highlighted on NFL films for all eternity.

 

[Old Smiley]

I put that more on Slocum. These guys are all young and eager. It's your job as coach to make him eager to do his part in the play you've got called. I feel like that young man was let down by his coaching. I feel bad for him.

So many times I would watch GB this year and there'd be a great play by Rogers or someone else, and then a "Really, Dude?" special teams play.

I'd be interested to know how many times that unit negatively affected the teams win probability.

 

[Sabertooth]

You feel bad for a 25 year old man who couldn't follow directions? I have a word for people like that - #######.

Either he was too dumb and didn't know the play. Or he did know the play and decided he knew better than the coach. Neither is acceptable. 25 year old third string tight ends with ego problems and bad hands are a dime a dozen.

He's totally fungible, he's reviled by a good portion of the fan base, and he sucks. No thanks.

Feeling bad for somebody isn't a reason to keep him. Blaming his coach is laughable. This isn't Madden. You are never going to coach stupid put of a player. Some people just don't know their place. He obviously didn't know his place when he jumped up in front of a pro bowl receiver against the play call. Maybe he isn't cut out for the pressure cooker of the NFL.

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

I do feel bad for Bostick, he made a huge mistake he will never forget.

No way he makes the team this year, GB will let him go and he will have a chance at a fresh start elsewhere.

 

[Old Smiley]

Thing is, the guy who left his man on a quixotic fg block attempt on the fake that got Seattle on the board had been doing that same thing all year. Was that in spite of his coaching, too? Or because of it. If you're not fixing it, you're coaching it.

Anyway Slocum's gone. A justifiable firing if there ever was.

 

[Mr.Pack]

Anyone blaming Bostick for the loss is delusional and just not living in reality.

 

[Sabertooth]

Bostick among others is to blame. Doesn't mean he didn't #### the bed.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Burnett deserves a lot of blame, too. Unless going down ends the game in real terms (meaning you can 100% run the clock out with kneel downs), you never piss away a scoring opportunity and fall to the ground like that. In essence, that INT was them pressing the foot on the throats of the Seahawks, and Burnett going down was releasing the pressure and giving them life again, when returning the pick could have given them an insurmountable lead. If I were a Packers fan, the Bostick bumble would definitely hurt the most, but Burnett would be 1b.

 

[Old Smiley]

There were so many things. How about not challenging Sherman when he's holding his arm like it's in a sling? Golic said he could still extend but so what? RUN somebody at him. Find out if he can tackle, for crying out loud.

One of the worst pucker jobs I've seen, and not the first one from McCarthy.

I think going down on the pick is one more reflection of that "Let's don't lose this" mindset.

 

[Sabertooth]

Burnett deserves a lot of blame, too. Unless going down ends the game in real terms (meaning you can 100% run the clock out with kneel downs), you never piss away a scoring opportunity and fall to the ground like that. In essence, that INT was them pressing the foot on the throats of the Seahawks, and Burnett going down was releasing the pressure and giving them life again, when returning the pick could have given them an insurmountable lead. If I were a Packers fan, the Bostick bumble would definitely hurt the most, but Burnett would be 1b.

I always assumed The defense was told to go down if they picked the ball. Peppers was motioning h to go Down and McCarthy said he didn't disagree with that.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Burnett deserves a lot of blame, too. Unless going down ends the game in real terms (meaning you can 100% run the clock out with kneel downs), you never piss away a scoring opportunity and fall to the ground like that. In essence, that INT was them pressing the foot on the throats of the Seahawks, and Burnett going down was releasing the pressure and giving them life again, when returning the pick could have given them an insurmountable lead. If I were a Packers fan, the Bostick bumble would definitely hurt the most, but Burnett would be 1b.

I always assumed The defense was told to go down if they picked the ball. Peppers was motioning h to go Down and McCarthy said he didn't disagree with that.

Then that's bad coaching. In a game where scoring was at a premium, you don't piss away a scoring opportunity. But they did, which I guess is why they aren't playing today.