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He just stops at one point. Lol
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NFC Wild Card Game: Detroit at Dallas (1 Viewer)
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Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
GoBirds
Footballguy
NFLN Faulk mentioned there was defensive holding as well. Thats within 5 yards right so that would be before the facemask if we are looking at all penalties even uncalled?
GoBirds
Footballguy
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24652025/is-this-the-nfl-ref-czar-on-cowboys-party-bus-irate-nfl-execs-say-yes
Being Jerry Jones son has to be some kind of sweet.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
@yahmpy: @LesBowen the only Eagles game Jerry Bergman worked this year. Someone needs to refresh him on the Helmet Off rule. http://t.co/yj9uckyLPy
The General
Footballguy
Good find.
This explains what happened - linesman made a bad call, though not as bad as people are freaking out about. Morelli jumped the gun announcing the call. Not that complicated.
Sucks when refs get involved in a great game, especially a playoff game.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Beause that's it. It's that good ole Dallas hate. Everyone just hates a team that has like 2 playoff wins in 20 years. It's 2015. Stop it.
No matter who played that was some BS.
GoBirds
Footballguy
Half in the bag
Footballguy
Lol at those who think match fixing, referee bribing and point shaving doesn't exist. Its been going on for as long as the mob has been around and it isn't always going to be subtle.The General said:
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Somewhat lost in all of this, is that that was an absolutely horrible throw by Stafford.
Manster
Footballguy
They explained it. It wasn't a penalty. There was minimal contact between the players, and the most contact was Pettigrew's hand in Hitchens facemask.BobbyLayne said:
And this kinda thing happens all the time. Refs throw flags, another ref disagrees, they meet about about it, and then announce "there is not penalty for (insert infraction).
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
@PFF_Pete: Here is the position of the Head Linesman who overruled the pass interference call (h/t @footballzebras): http://t.co/uHKJhGlSig
GoBirds
Footballguy
Thats not what video shows.....Cowboys fan by chance?
Just take the freebie and own it
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
I've often wondered why the winning team fans need to argue that the call didn't effect the game (or it was the right call). Just take the gift, say ####ty call that probably effected the outcome, but we will take it.
Manster
Footballguy
So if the penalty stood, and Detroit scored and won, then its a bad call the affected the outcome. Face guarding isn't a penalty in the NFL. It was explained.
Manster
Footballguy
yea, that still is right after Pettigrew took his hand out of Hitchens eyes
Bankerguy
Footballguy
It did.....but we have fans talking about full on conspiracy. Good grief...so stupid.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Do you see where the Cowboy defender's hand is?yea, that still is right after Pettigrew took his hand out of Hitchens eyes
Bankerguy
Footballguy
He has a hand on his shoulder? You act like this is a smoking gun.
It's Football hun.
GoBirds
Footballguy
Hes pushing his shoulder and not making any attempt to play the ball. You are just making yourself look like a tool defending it. You got away with a big one and get to play next week, stop trying to defend it though it was a horrible call.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Oh, I know. I loved Joey like a son. Would have bought every single share of stock in him if he were a commodity. Broke my heart what happened to him in Detroit. Well earned scorn.jomar said:
But the Stafford hate is ludicrous, asinine and senseless, yet ubiquitous in the Detroit area.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Brong's post was gold
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Green and Gold
Footballguy
You should hear Boston talk radio. Since 2001 the Patriots have been to the conference championship 8 times out of a possible 13, yet somehow all you hear is how they can't draft, never have good off-seasons, and can't find a WR that isn't a smurf.Doctor Detroit said:
Manster
Footballguy
I almost didn't come into the shark pool, cuz I knew it'd be full on attack mode.....Couldn't resist!
Maybe someone will start a thread with a poll to vote on if the NFL wants GB or DAL to to advance.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I fully expect to one day walk into a swanky hotel lounge and see Joey playing the piano for tips.
Half in the bag
Footballguy
That's PI in a nutshell. Contact with the receiver and made no attempt to play the ball, textbook PI. Hochuli's left bicep could have called that one in his sleep
Manster
Footballguy
Watch the play again. Notice Pettigrews hand in Hitchens facemask....Is that legal?....We all know that offensive players get away with murder. We see it every game.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
He has a hand on his shoulder? You act like this is a smoking gun.
It's Football hun.
This can't be real. Can it?
Your Mother's Twin Sister
Footballguy
They're real, and they're fantastic!
Bankerguy
Footballguy
Yup.He has a hand on his shoulder? You act like this is a smoking gun.
It's Football hun.
This can't be real. Can it?
You can post a few more
to try and feel better though.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
I'll just wait for the Cowboys to choke out, and come back and say hi to you then tough guy.Yup.He has a hand on his shoulder? You act like this is a smoking gun.
It's Football hun.
This can't be real. Can it?
You can post a few more
The General
Footballguy
I'll say it could have been called PI but its close. Pettigrew previous to that pic was pulling the defender's facemask, the defender then tries to knock the hand away and then hits Pettigrew in the shoulder.He has a hand on his shoulder? You act like this is a smoking gun.
It's Football hun.
This can't be real. Can it?
General Malaise
Footballguy
He'd probably do it for fun and donate the tip money. Guy is killing it in life. Hot wife, great broadcasting career, living in his home state, never has to buy a beer anywhere he goes. I know guys who know him and from what I've learned is that he's just an awesome dude. Funny, down to earth, dorky....like us! Made his money, didn't let his NFL life define him and is beyond comfortable in his own skin. And he will not utter a negative word about Matt Millen. Always takes the high road.
Manster
Footballguy
I like how that's conveniently disregarded by those ripping the non call.I'll say it could have been called PI but its close. Pettigrew previous to that pic was pulling the defender's facemask, the defender then tries to knock the hand away and then hits Pettigrew in the shoulder.He has a hand on his shoulder? You act like this is a smoking gun.
It's Football hun.
This can't be real. Can it?
Bankerguy
Footballguy
No problem, yes we likely won't win the Superbowl and if stopping by after we do lose to troll me (in a game that doesn't involve your team) will make you feel better....then by all means feel free to do so. I assure you, I won't be crying and carrying on about 1 call when my team had multiple chances thereafter. I get it, it was a debatable play...it didn't go your way.I'll just wait for the Cowboys to choke out, and come back and say hi to you then tough guy.Yup.He has a hand on his shoulder? You act like this is a smoking gun.
It's Football hun.
This can't be real. Can it?
You can post a few more
Reminds me of the game I went to in Detroit last year. Bunch of us there in Cowboys gear being given a hard for nothing. Guys yelling at kids wearing Romo jersey's
#stay classy
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Not disregarded at all, but it would have still been third down in the case of offsetting penalties. Didn't think of that did you?I like how that's conveniently disregarded by those ripping the non call.I'll say it could have been called PI but its close. Pettigrew previous to that pic was pulling the defender's facemask, the defender then tries to knock the hand away and then hits Pettigrew in the shoulder.He has a hand on his shoulder? You act like this is a smoking gun.
It's Football hun.
This can't be real. Can it?
The General
Footballguy
I get why people think it's a bad call. Especially with the Ref announcing the call then not saying why he picked up the flag.I like how that's conveniently disregarded by those ripping the non call.I'll say it could have been called PI but its close. Pettigrew previous to that pic was pulling the defender's facemask, the defender then tries to knock the hand away and then hits Pettigrew in the shoulder.He has a hand on his shoulder? You act like this is a smoking gun.
It's Football hun.
This can't be real. Can it?
The tinfoil hat crowd though is cracking me up.
I'm a Dallas fan...
The call did effect the game, it was the right call and they shouldn't have picked up the flag. I'm so thankful that we got this gift because it no doubt effected the outcome, but we will take it.
...The Cowboys players themselves deserve no credit at all for anything good that happened, it was 100% the refs winning that game for Dallas. Furthermore, we didn't deserve the dumb decisions by Caldwell, we didn't deserve the shanked punt, we didn't deserve the sack fumble that we gave back to the Lions, We certainly didn't earn the sack/fumble on the final drive... I feel really bad for the Lions playing a perfect game and having the game ripped away from them by the zebras... But we'll take it.
Bankerguy
Footballguy
Yes we all have. Why do assume you score? Maybe Stafford fumbles for the hat trick.Not disregarded at all, but it would have still been third down in the case of offsetting penalties. Didn't think of that did you?I like how that's conveniently disregarded by those ripping the non call.I'll say it could have been called PI but its close. Pettigrew previous to that pic was pulling the defender's facemask, the defender then tries to knock the hand away and then hits Pettigrew in the shoulder.He has a hand on his shoulder? You act like this is a smoking gun.
It's Football hun.
This can't be real. Can it?
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
Are you trying to prove my point?
You don't need to legitamize the win. Just accept that you won with a game influencing call. It happens all the time. When you argue about face guarding or whatever it makes you look like a blind homer. 99% of fans that do not have a horse in this race viewed that call as horrible. You don't need to defend the referee or rationalize anything. You won.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
I lived in Texas for four years, don't try and make the Cowboys fans out to be any different. Has to be the whiniest fan base of them all, high as a kite one week and ready to burn down the whole city the next when the Cowboys lose (which they ALWAYS do).No problem, yes we likely won't win the Superbowl and if stopping by after we do lose to troll me (in a game that doesn't involve your team) will make you feel better....then by all means feel free to do so. I assure you, I won't be crying and carrying on about 1 call when my team had multiple chances thereafter. I get it, it was a debatable play...it didn't go your way.I'll just wait for the Cowboys to choke out, and come back and say hi to you then tough guy.Yup.He has a hand on his shoulder? You act like this is a smoking gun.
It's Football hun.
This can't be real. Can it?
You can post a few more
Reminds me of the game I went to in Detroit last year. Bunch of us there in Cowboys gear being given a hard for nothing. Guys yelling at kids wearing Romo jersey's
#stay classy
Manster
Footballguy
Or its facemask on Pettigrew, penalty declined, 4th down.Not disregarded at all, but it would have still been third down in the case of offsetting penalties. Didn't think of that did you?I like how that's conveniently disregarded by those ripping the non call.I'll say it could have been called PI but its close. Pettigrew previous to that pic was pulling the defender's facemask, the defender then tries to knock the hand away and then hits Pettigrew in the shoulder.He has a hand on his shoulder? You act like this is a smoking gun.
It's Football hun.
This can't be real. Can it?
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
Your sarcasm proves my point.
I'm a Seahawk fan. I have no issue with saying that the Fail Mary gave us the win. We played well enough to benefit from a really bad call.
The Cowboys played well enough to take advantage of a horrendous call.
Manster
Footballguy
disagree completely. the ones making a huge deal about the call are people who hate the Cowboys.
