NFL Head Coaches on the hottt seat (1 Viewer)

[tdmills]

Chan Gailey - Buffalo

I don't think he makes it to next season in Buffalo. They spent all this money and saw no return.

Jason Garrett - Dallas

50/50 he returns next season.

Andy Reid - Philly

No chance he returns next season.

Rex Ryan - NYJ

50/50 he returns next season.

Jim Schwartz - Detroit

75% of returning. The leadership is lacking in Detroit and it starts from the top.

Pat Shurmur - Browns

New ownership, see ya Pat.

Ron Rivera - Carolina

No chance he returns next season

Mike Mularkey - Jacksonville

No chance he returns next season

Mike Munchak - Tennessee

50/50 chance he returns next season

Ken Whisenhunt - Arizona

No chance he returns next season

Romeo Crennel - Kansas City

No chance he returns next season

Dennis Allen - Oakland

25% he returns next season

Norv Turner - San Diego

It's time to move on in SD.

I'd say about 8 new HC's for sure, maximum of 13.

 

[azgroover]

Ken Whisenhunt - ArizonaNo chance he returns next season

FWIW, a local sports radio guy was openly wondering if Whisenhunt is actually trying to get fired given his decision to leave Lindley in the NY game.Not sure what the motivation would be, but an interesting theory.

 

[delusional]

I wouldn't be so sure about the no chance on Reid returning. I know as screwed up as it sounds, him being here another season & GM Roseman getting the axe instead is a possibility

 

[Mentos]

I also think Reid could get another year.

Anyway, I like Jay Gruden, Ray Horton and Winston Moss as candidates for jobs in 2013.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Jim Schwartz - Detroit75% of returning. The leadership is lacking in Detroit and it starts from the top.

Agree, but I would put it more like 90%. Owner has an ultra slow firing hand plus they are only one year removed from the playoffs.

 

[MAC_32]

Ken Whisenhunt - ArizonaNo chance he returns next season

FWIW, a local sports radio guy was openly wondering if Whisenhunt is actually trying to get fired given his decision to leave Lindley in the NY game.Not sure what the motivation would be, but an interesting theory.

His GM's incompetence in building an offense for him to use would be one angle.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Jim Schwartz - Detroit

75% of returning. The leadership is lacking in Detroit and it starts from the top.

Agree, but I would put it more like 90%. Owner has an ultra slow firing hand plus they are only one year removed from the playoffs.

99%Rogers was hired by the Detroit Lions in 1985 as head coach. He went 7–9 in 1985, 5–11 in 1986, 4–11 in 1987, and 2–9 in 1988, for a career record with the Lions of 18–40. One of his more famous quotes during his unsuccessful tenure with the Lions was when he once wondered aloud to reporters after a loss,

"What does a coach have to do around here to get fired?"

He was succeeded by Wayne Fontes.

 

[MAC_32]

Chan Gailey - Buffalo

I don't think he makes it to next season in Buffalo. They spent all this money and saw no return. - If the Fitzpatrick extension and Mario signing were primarily Nix ideas I could Chan get another year.

Jason Garrett - Dallas

50/50 he returns next season. - Playoffs, he'll be back. No playoffs, I give him a slight chance but not much of one.

Andy Reid - Philly

No chance he returns next season. - I agree, wouldn't be surprised if Lurie already told him

Rex Ryan - NYJ

50/50 he returns next season. - I'd be very surprised if he is let go, if anyone goes there it's Tanny. More likely scenario is both are given one last shot in 2013 with a different QB. This is why I wouldn't be surprised if they end up with Vick, out of sheer desperation.

Jim Schwartz - Detroit

75% of returning. The leadership is lacking in Detroit and it starts from the top. - He will be back, but he will be put on notice.

Pat Shurmur - Browns

New ownership, see ya Pat. - Foregone conclusion, yippee!

Ron Rivera - Carolina

No chance he returns next season - I agree, can't see any scenario he comes back. Entire new house being brought in to build around Cam.

Mike Mularkey - Jacksonville

No chance he returns next season - Gene Smith is done, not so sure on Mularkey. Smith brought him in because he said he thinks Gabbert deserves a shot whereas the other half dozen candidates they brought in correctly said he did not, but I find it hard to point the finger at Mularkey for all that's gone wrong. This team lacks talent, that's on Smith.

Mike Munchak - Tennessee

50/50 chance he returns next season Very important December, I think he's at 50/50 right now and whether he stays or goes depends if they go 3-1 or 1-3.

Ken Whisenhunt - Arizona

No chance he returns next season Again, maybe I'm just not tuned in but this is a GM problem to me. Whis can't coach a #### sandwich and that's what he's been given.

Romeo Crennel - Kansas City

No chance he returns next season Never earned a 2nd shot, no idea what Pioli was thinking.

Dennis Allen - Oakland

25% he returns next season - 90% chance. Oakland wasn't playing for this year. Hue Jackson made that ridiculous trade for Carson, Al Davis killed their cap, and they didn't have a top 100 pick in the draft last year on a team void of star players. Despite Allen and McKenzie not being on the same page too often I can't see either going after at least 2 years, McKenzie will get more time, unless their relationship is fractured that much.

Norv Turner - San Diego

It's time to move on in SD. - Signed, 2010.

I'd say about 8 new HC's for sure, maximum of 13.

See, bolded.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Rex Ryan - NYJ50/50 he returns next season.

Don't see this happening. Tannenbaum is probably gone. No, I don't mean the fir tree.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

If the Vikes lose out (which they likely will) Leslie Frazier's seat will be on fire.

 

[Matt Bitonti]

Rex Ryan has taken the Jets to 2 AFC CG in 4 years. besides Parcells 1998 run, that's the closest this team has gotten to the super bowl for decades. Rex isn't gonna get fired.

 

[tdmills]

Rex Ryan has taken the Jets to 2 AFC CG in 4 years. besides Parcells 1998 run, that's the closest this team has gotten to the super bowl for decades. Rex isn't gonna get fired.

NFL=what have you done for me lately. It's been going downhill in a hurry in NY and his act is growing old.

 

[tdmills]

Jim Schwartz - Detroit

75% of returning. The leadership is lacking in Detroit and it starts from the top.

Agree, but I would put it more like 90%. Owner has an ultra slow firing hand plus they are only one year removed from the playoffs.

99%Rogers was hired by the Detroit Lions in 1985 as head coach. He went 7–9 in 1985, 5–11 in 1986, 4–11 in 1987, and 2–9 in 1988, for a career record with the Lions of 18–40. One of his more famous quotes during his unsuccessful tenure with the Lions was when he once wondered aloud to reporters after a loss,

"What does a coach have to do around here to get fired?"

He was succeeded by Wayne Fontes.

I get that the Lions were horrible before he arrived. But all of the off the field + on field incidents doesn't paint a great picture. Now enter in a down season after a Wildcard birth and you have some debate. Was 2011 the outlier in Detroit?

 

[Matt Bitonti]

NFL=what have you done for me lately. It's been going downhill in a hurry in NY and his act is growing old.

pure numbers Rex was 9-7 in year 1, 11-5 in year 2, 8-8 in year 3 and don't be surprised if they are 8-8 or 9-7 in year 4 (the rest of the schedule is cake). If they can get to 500 without Revis it would be a miracle. I don't see anything to fire the guy about. I also don't think a better coach would have more wins. People hate his big mouth but Rex is a football lifer who will keep his job.

 

[MAC_32]

If the Vikes lose out (which they likely will) Leslie Frazier's seat will be on fire.

Good. No way that team is a consistent winner with that coaching staff and that QB under center. If they're around next year they're just delaying the inevitable.

 

[MAC_32]

Rex Ryan has taken the Jets to 2 AFC CG in 4 years. besides Parcells 1998 run, that's the closest this team has gotten to the super bowl for decades. Rex isn't gonna get fired.

NFL=what have you done for me lately. It's been going downhill in a hurry in NY and his act is growing old.

Predictably going down the same path as his dad. Same style, same result.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Ken Whisenhunt - ArizonaNo chance he returns next season

FWIW, a local sports radio guy was openly wondering if Whisenhunt is actually trying to get fired given his decision to leave Lindley in the NY game.Not sure what the motivation would be, but an interesting theory.

He took AZ to a place they have never been and will likely never return. They let a lot of good players walk, even though they are supposed to spend a certain amount now, Whisenhunt will be scooped up by a better organization and he will go on to better things. I would want out if I were him as well. Too many open jobs this off season.

 

[FUBAR]

Pat Shurmur - Browns

New ownership, see ya Pat. - Foregone conclusion, yippee!

I'm certainly not saying he needs to stay, but given the hand he was dealt, his record isn't all that bad. 8-20 within his tenure, 4-8 this year while starting a lot of rookies at key positions. Unless there's more to it, I'd give him another year.

 

[FUBAR]

Ken Whisenhunt - ArizonaNo chance he returns next season

FWIW, a local sports radio guy was openly wondering if Whisenhunt is actually trying to get fired given his decision to leave Lindley in the NY game.Not sure what the motivation would be, but an interesting theory.

He took AZ to a place they have never been and will likely never return. They let a lot of good players walk, even though they are supposed to spend a certain amount now, Whisenhunt will be scooped up by a better organization and he will go on to better things. I would want out if I were him as well. Too many open jobs this off season.

I'd expect the Browns or Jets to scoop him up if those jobs are available. He has short history with both.

 

[Texasmouth]

Chan Gailey - Buffalo

Who else WANTS to go to Buffalo and have to compete with New England every year? Gailey will be back.

Jason Garrett - Dallas

This is Jerry's puppet. Probably not going anywhere unless maybe Dallas loses out and Holmgren wants to coach there. Jerry loves Holmgren.

Andy Reid - Philly

Zero chance that he is back. 100% chance he is the new coach in San Diego. Just my opinion.

Rex Ryan - NYJ

What a strange situation there. No idea on this one. I would bet he is back though.

Jim Schwartz - Detroit

Good young coach but has really mismanaged talent in Detroit. I think he will be back but will have to make some assistant changes I bet.

Pat Shurmur - Browns

Shurmur will be back in Cleveland. This is the first time there has been any type of hope in Cleveland. If they are smart, they provide a little consistency for once in Cleveland and keep this guy around and give him a couple more drafts to get this ship turned around. They have a solid young group now and are a few players from being competitive in my opinion.

Ron Rivera - Carolina

ZERO chance this guy is back. ZERO. They will beg steal and borrow to get the Chin in Carolina. Not sure if that happens or not. Cam reminds me a lot of Big Ben though. May convince Chin out of his comfy chair. If not, I think they make a run at a college coach that coaches an offense Cam can flourish in.

Mike Mularkey - Jacksonville

This one is a little bit of a head scratcher to me. I dont think anyone wants this job either. Some decent young talent there and will have a good draft pick with a solid crop of QB's coming out. Not 100% sold that he is gone.

Mike Munchak - Tennessee

I think the organization is loyal to this guy and he will get one more shot to make some progress.

Ken Whisenhunt - Arizona

100% chance he will be the first coach fired, maybe before the end of the season. QB situation is a train wreck.

Romeo Crennel - Kansas City

No chance he returns. Maybe they can get Brian Shotty in there and have his dad in some type of management position.

Dennis Allen - Oakland

Doubt they fire him already. He inherited a mess.

Norv Turner - San Diego

No way in hell this guy is back. One of the worst head coaches in the NFL in my opinion. Still dont understand how this guy has had so many jobs. He wasnt great. The 90's Cowboys were great, not because of Norv Turner, because of the fact that they bought a pro bowl team. He has lived off of that for too long. I am sure someone will give him another job. Andy Reid will be the next head coach in San Diego. AJ Smith should be gone too. Rivers needs some new blood there.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Chan Gailey - Buffalo

I don't think he makes it to next season in Buffalo. They spent all this money and saw no return.

-I'm not so sure, they spent a lot of money, they may need to give him a QB who can up the offense some and limit the turnovers. Buffalo is better than some think

Jason Garrett - Dallas

50/50 he returns next season.

-It doesn't matter. Until Jerry Jones steps down from being the GM/President of the team which ain't happening, this is a very undesirable position right now in the NFL. It's Al Davis Pt.2

Andy Reid - Philly

No chance he returns next season.

-Reid needs to go relax on a beach somewhere for the next 2-3 years and find himself.

Rex Ryan - NYJ

50/50 he returns next season.

-He went to 2 straight AFC Championships, he gets another year. If he is let go, he will be insta hired somewhere.

Jim Schwartz - Detroit

75% of returning. The leadership is lacking in Detroit and it starts from the top.

-95% chance he returns IMO. He took over a team that went 0-16, took them to the playoffs, he gets another year.

Pat Shurmur - Browns

New ownership, see ya Pat.

-Gone

Ron Rivera - Carolina

No chance he returns next season

-Gone



Mike Mularkey - Jacksonville

No chance he returns next season

-50/50, the Jags are playing better now that Gabbert is done for the year.

Mike Munchak - Tennessee

50/50 chance he returns next season

-Only in year 2 post Fisher, this team let Fisher coach without making the playoffs for like 3-4 years when he 1st took over. I think they keep him 1 more year.

Ken Whisenhunt - Arizona

No chance he returns next season

-Will be coaching somewhere else quickly. Has a solid resume and teams will line up to interview him.

Romeo Crennel - Kansas City

No chance he returns next season

-Not sure after this recent event if the club kicks him to the curb. I could see him stepping down but not fired.

Dennis Allen - Oakland

25% he returns next season

-Gone, the way they let coaches come and go, this guy looks like a blundering idiot most weeks I see him on the TV.

Norv Turner - San Diego

It's time to move on in SD.

-Gone

I'd say about 8 new HC's for sure, maximum of 13.

If a guy like Whisenhunt is let go, that could prompt other teams that are on the fence to fire their coach and try to make a move for him. Other big names that could force guys out would be the likes of Gruden obviously.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Norv Turner - San DiegoNo way in hell this guy is back. One of the worst head coaches in the NFL in my opinion. Still dont understand how this guy has had so many jobs. He wasnt great. The 90's Cowboys were great, not because of Norv Turner, because of the fact that they bought a pro bowl team. He has lived off of that for too long. I am sure someone will give him another job. Andy Reid will be the next head coach in San Diego. AJ Smith should be gone too. Rivers needs some new blood there.

He is one of the worst HC however he is one helluva OC and he has the track record to prove it.

 

[pantherclub]

Who are the hot coaching names out there?

Do you think the Oregon coach would be a good NFL coach?

thanks I will hang up and listen

 

[MAC_32]

Pat Shurmur - Browns

New ownership, see ya Pat. - Foregone conclusion, yippee!

I'm certainly not saying he needs to stay, but given the hand he was dealt, his record isn't all that bad. 8-20 within his tenure, 4-8 this year while starting a lot of rookies at key positions. Unless there's more to it, I'd give him another year.

If you have this take I imagine you haven't watched the Browns more than 2-3 times in his 28 game sample, I have never seen consistent game mismanagement like this in my entire lifetime of watching sports.

 

[FUBAR]

Pat Shurmur - Browns

New ownership, see ya Pat. - Foregone conclusion, yippee!

I'm certainly not saying he needs to stay, but given the hand he was dealt, his record isn't all that bad. 8-20 within his tenure, 4-8 this year while starting a lot of rookies at key positions. Unless there's more to it, I'd give him another year.

If you have this take I imagine you haven't watched the Browns more than 2-3 times in his 28 game sample, I have never seen consistent game mismanagement like this in my entire lifetime of watching sports.

Nope, the Browns usually aren't carried here so I'm on the outside looking in.

 

[Mentos]

Who are the hot coaching names out there?Do you think the Oregon coach would be a good NFL coach?thanks I will hang up and listen

I do not know if Kelly will be good or not.I think Jay Gruden, Winston Moss and Ray Horton will be good NFL head coaches. I like Horton the most. Mike McCoy, Greg Roman and Mike Zimmer are some other hot names who could get NFL head coaching jobs in January.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

Rex Ryan has taken the Jets to 2 AFC CG in 4 years. besides Parcells 1998 run, that's the closest this team has gotten to the super bowl for decades. Rex isn't gonna get fired.

Mark Sanchez has taken the Jets to 2 AFC CG in 4 years, too. Where does that leave him next year?

 

[MAC_32]

Pat Shurmur - Browns

New ownership, see ya Pat. - Foregone conclusion, yippee!

I'm certainly not saying he needs to stay, but given the hand he was dealt, his record isn't all that bad. 8-20 within his tenure, 4-8 this year while starting a lot of rookies at key positions. Unless there's more to it, I'd give him another year.

If you have this take I imagine you haven't watched the Browns more than 2-3 times in his 28 game sample, I have never seen consistent game mismanagement like this in my entire lifetime of watching sports.

Nope, the Browns usually aren't carried here so I'm on the outside looking in.

Your eyes thank you. The Browns are where they are because of Shurmur, Holmgren pushing Weeden on Heckert after neither had the balls to trade for RG3, and poor evaluations of skill position talent. This team isn't far away from playoff contention, but the coaching and skill position talent must be upgraded immediately. Whether that's QB, WR, or TE will be up to the new regime.

 

[Heatman]

If the Vikes lose out (which they likely will) Leslie Frazier's seat will be on fire.

Lose out! His seat should already be on fire. The problem is Zygi seems to want to stick with whats not working. It doesn't take much to see that Frazier (Though an improvement over Childress) is not the answer.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Jim Schwartz - Detroit

75% of returning. The leadership is lacking in Detroit and it starts from the top.

Agree, but I would put it more like 90%. Owner has an ultra slow firing hand plus they are only one year removed from the playoffs.

99%Rogers was hired by the Detroit Lions in 1985 as head coach. He went 7–9 in 1985, 5–11 in 1986, 4–11 in 1987, and 2–9 in 1988, for a career record with the Lions of 18–40. One of his more famous quotes during his unsuccessful tenure with the Lions was when he once wondered aloud to reporters after a loss,

"What does a coach have to do around here to get fired?"

He was succeeded by Wayne Fontes.

I get that the Lions were horrible before he arrived. But all of the off the field + on field incidents doesn't paint a great picture. Now enter in a down season after a Wildcard birth and you have some debate. Was 2011 the outlier in Detroit?

I say 99% because that's how WCF Sr rolls. Back in the 1950s WCF married a Firestone heiress and took over as head of the Continental Division. They had big plans, but a year or two after he was named VP, they merged with the Lincoln division. They cut a lot of jobs, scrapped new models, and most of R&D projects. If you want to understand the 87 year old Ford - the last grandchild of Henry Ford - you have to realize that was the defining period in shaping his worldview. He will never be disloyal or fire someone prematurely, not until they have had every conceivable chance to succeed. He will never do to others what was done to him as a young executive.

In 1967, Ford hired an accountant named Russ Thomas to be the Lions' general manager. His teams never won a playoff game. Thomas remained general manager until 1989, when he retired. He was, without question, the worst GM in sports, and he never got fired. He couldn't fire Matt Millen, and probably never would have if Bill Ford Jr. hadn't publicly come out and stated flatly he has to go.

The Lions are the most popular franchise in the state of Michigan. It's not close. They can call Detroit Hockeytown, and the Red Wings have been the dominant NHL franchise of the last two decades - but it's not their town. The Pistons have 3 world championships, but they were never near and dear to the hearts of Michiganders. The Tigers have come close the last few years, and their popularity is comparable, but they've also been (relatively speaking) more successful than the NFL franchise.

If the Lions ever built a winning team, they would blow the roof off Ford Field. That is a football town.

Schwartz is going nowhere. WCF Sr won't allow it, until it is untenable to keep him any longer. They're not there yet.

 

[JaxBill]

Mularkey has about a 1 in 4 chance to return next year. It all depends on what new GM they bring in.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

Rex Ryan has taken the Jets to 2 AFC CG in 4 years. besides Parcells 1998 run, that's the closest this team has gotten to the super bowl for decades. Rex isn't gonna get fired.

Mark Sanchez has taken the Jets to 2 AFC CG in 4 years, too. Where does that leave him next year?

On the bench?

 

[MCguidance]

Rex Ryan has taken the Jets to 2 AFC CG in 4 years. besides Parcells 1998 run, that's the closest this team has gotten to the super bowl for decades. Rex isn't gonna get fired.

Mark Sanchez has taken the Jets to 2 AFC CG in 4 years, too. Where does that leave him next year?

Apples and oranges, don't be silly.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Jim Schwartz - Detroit

75% of returning. The leadership is lacking in Detroit and it starts from the top.

Agree, but I would put it more like 90%. Owner has an ultra slow firing hand plus they are only one year removed from the playoffs.

99%Rogers was hired by the Detroit Lions in 1985 as head coach. He went 7–9 in 1985, 5–11 in 1986, 4–11 in 1987, and 2–9 in 1988, for a career record with the Lions of 18–40. One of his more famous quotes during his unsuccessful tenure with the Lions was when he once wondered aloud to reporters after a loss,

"What does a coach have to do around here to get fired?"

He was succeeded by Wayne Fontes.

I get that the Lions were horrible before he arrived. But all of the off the field + on field incidents doesn't paint a great picture. Now enter in a down season after a Wildcard birth and you have some debate. Was 2011 the outlier in Detroit?

I say 99% because that's how WCF Sr rolls. Back in the 1950s WCF married a Firestone heiress and took over as head of the Continental Division. They had big plans, but a year or two after he was named VP, they merged with the Lincoln division. They cut a lot of jobs, scrapped new models, and most of R&D projects. If you want to understand the 87 year old Ford - the last grandchild of Henry Ford - you have to realize that was the defining period in shaping his worldview. He will never be disloyal or fire someone prematurely, not until they have had every conceivable chance to succeed. He will never do to others what was done to him as a young executive.

In 1967, Ford hired an accountant named Russ Thomas to be the Lions' general manager. His teams never won a playoff game. Thomas remained general manager until 1989, when he retired. He was, without question, the worst GM in sports, and he never got fired. He couldn't fire Matt Millen, and probably never would have if Bill Ford Jr. hadn't publicly come out and stated flatly he has to go.

The Lions are the most popular franchise in the state of Michigan. It's not close. They can call Detroit Hockeytown, and the Red Wings have been the dominant NHL franchise of the last two decades - but it's not their town. The Pistons have 3 world championships, but they were never near and dear to the hearts of Michiganders. The Tigers have come close the last few years, and their popularity is comparable, but they've also been (relatively speaking) more successful than the NFL franchise.

If the Lions ever built a winning team, they would blow the roof off Ford Field. That is a football town.

Schwartz is going nowhere. WCF Sr won't allow it, until it is untenable to keep him any longer. They're not there yet.

Schwartz wont get fired. However I think OC/DC or both might get fired/replaced.

 

[Tanner9919]

Chan Gailey - Buffalo

I don't think he makes it to next season in Buffalo. They spent all this money and saw no return.

Jason Garrett - Dallas

50/50 he returns next season...with so many other coaches available ( Andy Reid is one), it's doubtful that Dallas would keep JG around..

Andy Reid - Philly

No chance he returns next season.

Rex Ryan - NYJ

50/50 he returns next season. he brings attention to the team that Woody J loves, he's a decent coach but needs to revamp his coaching staff, and the Christmas Tree Mike Tannenbaum is likely gone..

Jim Schwartz - Detroit

75% of returning. The leadership is lacking in Detroit and it starts from the top. Schwartz needs to go..this team should be a

playoff contender , year in/year out.with THAT talent, there's no excuse for missing the playoffs and floundering about like the Lions have under Schwartz, he obviously has no control over the team..it's time for a change..

Pat Shurmur - Browns

New ownership, see ya Pat.

Ron Rivera - Carolina

No chance he returns next season

Mike Mularkey - Jacksonville

No chance he returns next season

Mike Munchak - Tennessee

50/50 chance he returns next season

Ken Whisenhunt - Arizona

No chance he returns next season..he's a horrible head coach..

Romeo Crennel - Kansas City

No chance he returns next season

Dennis Allen - Oakland

25% he returns next season

Norv Turner - San Diego

It's time to move on in SD.

I'd say about 8 new HC's for sure, maximum of 13.

can't say you can blame everything on Norv Turner in SD - Philip Rivers tosses 4th Quarter int's like he's giving out free ice cream..not sure you can win with Rivers..anyways, as a Ray Rice owner I'd love nothing more than to see the Cam Cameron leave Baltimore, and they subsequently hire Norv Turner as OC..his track record with Rb's is outstanding..

T. Sparano is on the hot seat..and I'm not so sure Rob Ryan's job in Dallas is set in stone,either..

if Washington fails to make the postseason, is Shanahan's job secure? seriously , since Jon Elway retired, what has Shanny done as a head coach?

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Jim Schwartz - Detroit

75% of returning. The leadership is lacking in Detroit and it starts from the top.

Agree, but I would put it more like 90%. Owner has an ultra slow firing hand plus they are only one year removed from the playoffs.

99%Rogers was hired by the Detroit Lions in 1985 as head coach. He went 7–9 in 1985, 5–11 in 1986, 4–11 in 1987, and 2–9 in 1988, for a career record with the Lions of 18–40. One of his more famous quotes during his unsuccessful tenure with the Lions was when he once wondered aloud to reporters after a loss,

"What does a coach have to do around here to get fired?"

He was succeeded by Wayne Fontes.

I get that the Lions were horrible before he arrived. But all of the off the field + on field incidents doesn't paint a great picture. Now enter in a down season after a Wildcard birth and you have some debate. Was 2011 the outlier in Detroit?

I say 99% because that's how WCF Sr rolls. Back in the 1950s WCF married a Firestone heiress and took over as head of the Continental Division. They had big plans, but a year or two after he was named VP, they merged with the Lincoln division. They cut a lot of jobs, scrapped new models, and most of R&D projects. If you want to understand the 87 year old Ford - the last grandchild of Henry Ford - you have to realize that was the defining period in shaping his worldview. He will never be disloyal or fire someone prematurely, not until they have had every conceivable chance to succeed. He will never do to others what was done to him as a young executive.

In 1967, Ford hired an accountant named Russ Thomas to be the Lions' general manager. His teams never won a playoff game. Thomas remained general manager until 1989, when he retired. He was, without question, the worst GM in sports, and he never got fired. He couldn't fire Matt Millen, and probably never would have if Bill Ford Jr. hadn't publicly come out and stated flatly he has to go.

The Lions are the most popular franchise in the state of Michigan. It's not close. They can call Detroit Hockeytown, and the Red Wings have been the dominant NHL franchise of the last two decades - but it's not their town. The Pistons have 3 world championships, but they were never near and dear to the hearts of Michiganders. The Tigers have come close the last few years, and their popularity is comparable, but they've also been (relatively speaking) more successful than the NFL franchise.

If the Lions ever built a winning team, they would blow the roof off Ford Field. That is a football town.

Schwartz is going nowhere. WCF Sr won't allow it, until it is untenable to keep him any longer. They're not there yet.

Schwartz wont get fired. However I think OC/DC or both might get fired/replaced.

If Norv or Chan are fired either would be a big improvement as an OC over Linehan.

 

[MAC_32]

if Washington fails to make the postseason, is Shanahan's job secure? seriously , since Jon Elway retired, what has Shanny done as a head coach?

I think he's safe. Washington has some glaring holes and they knew it when they went up and got RG3, but they saw the big picture with him. RG3 will bring some excitement to the fans for a couple of years while they're pick deprived, which will ultimately keep them for competing for the title, but once he's entering his prime he will be surrounded by the other core players that will take them to title contention. Shannahan's scheme and RG3 are why the offense has been successful, they are surrounded by garbage otherwise. The 6th round rookie RB Morris has been a pleasant surprise, but the o line is not good and the only outside weapon (Garcon) has missed half the season and been limited in every other game. The rest of them drop more balls than they catch. Defensively they have a pretty sound front 7, but once Orakpo went down the passing defense was done for because the secondary is atrocious. Its going to take some time to get the secondary, outside weapons, and o line fixed and without the 1st round picks in the near future it will take a little longer. Still, strong foundation to build from, Shanny's not going anywhere.

 

[Obie Wan]

Chan will be the coach until Ralph dies and ownership changes

Won't be able to attract anyone with a pulse until then anyway

 

[The Kuhn]

Jim Schwartz - Detroit

75% of returning. The leadership is lacking in Detroit and it starts from the top.

Agree, but I would put it more like 90%. Owner has an ultra slow firing hand plus they are only one year removed from the playoffs.

99%Rogers was hired by the Detroit Lions in 1985 as head coach. He went 7–9 in 1985, 5–11 in 1986, 4–11 in 1987, and 2–9 in 1988, for a career record with the Lions of 18–40. One of his more famous quotes during his unsuccessful tenure with the Lions was when he once wondered aloud to reporters after a loss,

"What does a coach have to do around here to get fired?"

He was succeeded by Wayne Fontes.

I get that the Lions were horrible before he arrived. But all of the off the field + on field incidents doesn't paint a great picture. Now enter in a down season after a Wildcard birth and you have some debate. Was 2011 the outlier in Detroit?

I say 99% because that's how WCF Sr rolls. Back in the 1950s WCF married a Firestone heiress and took over as head of the Continental Division. They had big plans, but a year or two after he was named VP, they merged with the Lincoln division. They cut a lot of jobs, scrapped new models, and most of R&D projects. If you want to understand the 87 year old Ford - the last grandchild of Henry Ford - you have to realize that was the defining period in shaping his worldview. He will never be disloyal or fire someone prematurely, not until they have had every conceivable chance to succeed. He will never do to others what was done to him as a young executive.

In 1967, Ford hired an accountant named Russ Thomas to be the Lions' general manager. His teams never won a playoff game. Thomas remained general manager until 1989, when he retired. He was, without question, the worst GM in sports, and he never got fired. He couldn't fire Matt Millen, and probably never would have if Bill Ford Jr. hadn't publicly come out and stated flatly he has to go.

The Lions are the most popular franchise in the state of Michigan. It's not close. They can call Detroit Hockeytown, and the Red Wings have been the dominant NHL franchise of the last two decades - but it's not their town. The Pistons have 3 world championships, but they were never near and dear to the hearts of Michiganders. The Tigers have come close the last few years, and their popularity is comparable, but they've also been (relatively speaking) more successful than the NFL franchise.

If the Lions ever built a winning team, they would blow the roof off Ford Field. That is a football town.

Schwartz is going nowhere. WCF Sr won't allow it, until it is untenable to keep him any longer. They're not there yet.

Schwartz wont get fired. However I think OC/DC or both might get fired/replaced.

Pleasepleaseplease bring Marty "the bar is high" Mornhinweg back to Detroit!!! With the new playoff format, you can take the wind and not get ridiculed for it!

 

[Amused to Death]

if Washington fails to make the postseason, is Shanahan's job secure? seriously , since Jon Elway retired, what has Shanny done as a head coach?

I think he's safe. Washington has some glaring holes and they knew it when they went up and got RG3, but they saw the big picture with him. RG3 will bring some excitement to the fans for a couple of years while they're pick deprived, which will ultimately keep them for competing for the title, but once he's entering his prime he will be surrounded by the other core players that will take them to title contention. Shannahan's scheme and RG3 are why the offense has been successful, they are surrounded by garbage otherwise. The 6th round rookie RB Morris has been a pleasant surprise, but the o line is not good and the only outside weapon (Garcon) has missed half the season and been limited in every other game. The rest of them drop more balls than they catch. Defensively they have a pretty sound front 7, but once Orakpo went down the passing defense was done for because the secondary is atrocious. Its going to take some time to get the secondary, outside weapons, and o line fixed and without the 1st round picks in the near future it will take a little longer. Still, strong foundation to build from, Shanny's not going anywhere.

Mike & Mike this morning were discussing Shanahan as a possible Coach of the Year candidate.

 

[Donnybrook]

Ken Whisenhunt - ArizonaNo chance he returns next season

FWIW, a local sports radio guy was openly wondering if Whisenhunt is actually trying to get fired given his decision to leave Lindley in the NY game.Not sure what the motivation would be, but an interesting theory.

I haven't watched many Cardinal games lately but I have to wonder if Arizona is tanking by removing a health Skelton as the starter. With Percy Harvin on IR, I am wondering if the Vikings should do the same. I know that Peterson would not accept it especially with the rushing title on the line but the smart thing for the Vikings would be to bench Peterson. There is no need for him to injured in a meaningless game like last year.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

If the Vikes lose out (which they likely will) Leslie Frazier's seat will be on fire.

Lose out! His seat should already be on fire. The problem is Zygi seems to want to stick with whats not working. It doesn't take much to see that Frazier (Though an improvement over Childress) is not the answer.

However, if they win 8 games this year (with Harvin playing in only half the games), he should be coach of the year!

 

[Whizzinator]

Chan will be the coach until Ralph dies and ownership changesWon't be able to attract anyone with a pulse until then anyway

Worth remembering as we project these jobs that the alternatives for many of them won't be that great.If you're Dallas, you are confident someone will take the job; if you are Jacksonville can you be so sure that attractive candidates will say yes? Carolina? Buffalo for sure has that issue, as you note.This is why Reid has a small chance of staying---he's immediately the best proven NFL coach available if he's let go, and probably only after Chip Kelly and Cowher (if he comes back) overall, isn't he? Even if you feel like change is needed in Philly, that only drops Reid a few spots on the list for them---you still need to get one of a small handfull of candidates for it to make sense for them to do it, seems to me

 

[treat88]

Whizz was planning on starting Leinart over Warner.

Whizz was part of the FO that signed Kolb to be the franchise.

Whizz is part of the team that has failed to draft a single impactful offensive player outside of (kinda) Steve Breaston.

Whizz and his staff either have a problem recognizing talent or coaching talent. It is one or the other.

 

[Kiddnets]

As a Jet fan I appreciate the run Rex had with the team a few years ago....but its time to go.

Since the last AFCCG Rex has regressed as a HC:

Complete focus on defense and no interest in the offense

Lost the locker room last year and didnt even know it - makes Holmes a captain - lol - then wasn't even aware of Holmes situation before and during the game lst year with meltdown

Draft and FA pick up solely on defense - and still hasnt found impact playrs - ton of $ on Bart Scott - his key signing was a bust along with his draft picks so far. He has too much say in the draft and Tanny is a clueless bean counter

Failed to give Sanchez any coaching development - kept an awful QB coach in place...replaced an awful OC with possibly the only OC that could be worse.

Failed to give Sanchez any weapons - then approves and endorses Tebow disaster - allows the same plays to be called with Tebow time after time.

Allows Tebow to be active for NE game as backup when he clearly could not play - had no other QBs active

Defense continues free fall....then chirps about shutting down wost QB NFL has ever seen.

Blind loyalty to Sanchez when he clearly should be benched - worst QB in the NFL.

I give him 2013 not because he earned it but no other decent Coach would come into this situation as they have Sanchez and Holmes on the books next year for over $20M. However empty seats talk - and if no one shows to the JEts last home game Woody will get nervous and have to make some kind of change - maybe it will be reassigning Tanny but that may not be enough...remember he canned Mangini after a pretty good run....Woody is ALL about the PSLs!

 

[MAC_32]

Whizz was planning on starting Leinart over Warner.Whizz was part of the FO that signed Kolb to be the franchise.Whizz is part of the team that has failed to draft a single impactful offensive player outside of (kinda) Steve Breaston.Whizz and his staff either have a problem recognizing talent or coaching talent. It is one or the other.

Who is making those calls? Seriously asking, I don't know. In most front offices the GM is the decision maker, the coaches have a voice, but the final call is not theirs. Is that how Arizona is set up? or does Whiz have a bigger voice? I just can't imagine his voice is a big one in that room given the tools he's had to work with. A smart QB and strong o line is needed to run that offense and they don't have either.I've always felt Graves caved to the Fitzgerald pressure on the Kolb signing. Also felt like Leinart was being forced on the coaching staff rather than them wanting to play him. Don't know what led them to Floyd last year though, maybe just the general weakness of the OT class. They got a decent RT for cheap, steady improvement throughout the season, so that was a smart move. Maybe this year they can get the QB or LT.

 

[asuterlowe]

Whizz was planning on starting Leinart over Warner.Whizz was part of the FO that signed Kolb to be the franchise.Whizz is part of the team that has failed to draft a single impactful offensive player outside of (kinda) Steve Breaston.Whizz and his staff either have a problem recognizing talent or coaching talent. It is one or the other.

Who is making those calls? Seriously asking, I don't know. In most front offices the GM is the decision maker, the coaches have a voice, but the final call is not theirs. Is that how Arizona is set up? or does Whiz have a bigger voice? I just can't imagine his voice is a big one in that room given the tools he's had to work with. A smart QB and strong o line is needed to run that offense and they don't have either.I've always felt Graves caved to the Fitzgerald pressure on the Kolb signing. Also felt like Leinart was being forced on the coaching staff rather than them wanting to play him. Don't know what led them to Floyd last year though, maybe just the general weakness of the OT class. They got a decent RT for cheap, steady improvement throughout the season, so that was a smart move. Maybe this year they can get the QB or LT.

I think we might be prematurely writing Kolb off. He was stuck behind the worst Oline in the league and had no running game to speak of. I doubt he's ever going to be a superstar, but this team has other priorities, I could easily see him playing at a Flacco/Schaub/Fitz level.

 

[MAC_32]

Whizz was planning on starting Leinart over Warner.Whizz was part of the FO that signed Kolb to be the franchise.Whizz is part of the team that has failed to draft a single impactful offensive player outside of (kinda) Steve Breaston.Whizz and his staff either have a problem recognizing talent or coaching talent. It is one or the other.

Who is making those calls? Seriously asking, I don't know. In most front offices the GM is the decision maker, the coaches have a voice, but the final call is not theirs. Is that how Arizona is set up? or does Whiz have a bigger voice? I just can't imagine his voice is a big one in that room given the tools he's had to work with. A smart QB and strong o line is needed to run that offense and they don't have either.I've always felt Graves caved to the Fitzgerald pressure on the Kolb signing. Also felt like Leinart was being forced on the coaching staff rather than them wanting to play him. Don't know what led them to Floyd last year though, maybe just the general weakness of the OT class. They got a decent RT for cheap, steady improvement throughout the season, so that was a smart move. Maybe this year they can get the QB or LT.

I think we might be prematurely writing Kolb off. He was stuck behind the worst Oline in the league and had no running game to speak of. I doubt he's ever going to be a superstar, but this team has other priorities, I could easily see him playing at a Flacco/Schaub/Fitz level.

I've never been a fan. Thrived in offenses in college that did not require him to read defenses and there was no reason to expect that to change in the Pros. Since he got to the pros he has struggled and I believe it has to do with 2 big issues that aren't correctable - one is already mentioned, the other is he plays scared in the pocket. Can't be successful in any offense with those two issues.

 

[UKColt]

Norv Turner - San DiegoNo way in hell this guy is back. One of the worst head coaches in the NFL in my opinion. Still dont understand how this guy has had so many jobs. He wasnt great. The 90's Cowboys were great, not because of Norv Turner, because of the fact that they bought a pro bowl team. He has lived off of that for too long. I am sure someone will give him another job. Andy Reid will be the next head coach in San Diego. AJ Smith should be gone too. Rivers needs some new blood there.

He is one of the worst HC however he is one helluva OC and he has the track record to prove it.

If Bruce Arians gets a HC job on the back of this season with the Colts, I'd want Norv to replace him as OC.

 

[Matt Bitonti]

As a Jet fan I appreciate the run Rex had with the team a few years ago....but its time to go. Since the last AFCCG Rex has regressed as a HC:

the steelers gave bill cowher 10+ years. I wonder how long he'd last in NY.i've seen the Jets fire people every year for decades it seems, firing coaches doesn't seem to make things better. Rex is the best coach they've had since Parcells, firing him for who (Reid? Chip Kelly?) wouldn't be an upgrade.