NFL History Studs - Streak Without back to Back Losses? (1 Viewer)

[Joe Bryant]

As you know, the Pats streak of games without back to back losses just ended. What was it, somehthing like 57 games?

I commented on it in the Random Shots this week and have a guy telling me that was nothing compared to the 49ers of the mid 90s.

I know New England was close to the record with their streak. What was the record?

And anyone know how many games the 49ers have gone without back to back losses ever? (Maybe they're the record holder, I dunno)

Thanks.

J

 

[ZenMaster]

I was watching the game when they showed the graphic. The '95-'99 49ers hold the record with 60 games without back to back losses.

 

[The Jerk]

I was watching the game when they showed the graphic. The 49ers are the record holder with 72 games (I think). The announcers commented that if the Patriots had won on Sunday, they would have done no worse than tie.

I saw the graphic as well, and I believe the 49ers streak was from 1995-1999. I'll look up p-f-r.com and see how long the streak was myself.EDIT: As I see Mr. Sparkle has already posted (below), the streak is 60 games: the last 7 games of 1995, 48 from 1996-1998, and the first 5 of 1999. The 49ers actually lost 8 in a row at that point, 14 of 15 (including the first 3 games of 2000), and 19 of 22. One of the great examples of the cyclical nature of the NFL.

 

[Mr. Sparkle]

It is 60 games.

The Patriots coach certainly had no reason to embrace the protege who angered him by leaving for the New York Jets. After all, the Jets had just won 17-14 on a rainy Sunday, tightening the AFC East race that once loomed as a runaway for New England.

"I have a lot of great memories from here," Mangini said. "I'd like to add this to it."

Belichick has refused to refer to the Jets coach by name since Mangini left after serving five years as his defensive backs coach and last season as defensive coordinator, helping the Patriots win three Super Bowl titles. Their first midfield meeting after the Patriots won in New York this season wasn't a study in warmth either.

Then again, why should any of the Patriots be happy after their 57-game streak without consecutive losses ended? The record of 60 games was set by San Francisco from 1995-99.

 

[The Jerk]

OK, so what's the record the other way? I don't know, but I'd be curious to find out which franchise has gone the longest without consecutive wins. How about it, Dr. Drinen?

 

[The Man With No Name]

OK, so what's the record the other way? I don't know, but I'd be curious to find out which franchise has gone the longest without consecutive wins. How about it, Dr. Drinen?

Not sure if it's the longest, but Tampa Bay went 75 straight without winning consecutive games in the 80's.

 

[Ozymandias]

It is 60 games.The Patriots coach certainly had no reason to embrace the protege who angered him by leaving for the New York Jets. After all, the Jets had just won 17-14 on a rainy Sunday, tightening the AFC East race that once loomed as a runaway for New England."I have a lot of great memories from here," Mangini said. "I'd like to add this to it."Belichick has refused to refer to the Jets coach by name since Mangini left after serving five years as his defensive backs coach and last season as defensive coordinator, helping the Patriots win three Super Bowl titles. Their first midfield meeting after the Patriots won in New York this season wasn't a study in warmth either.

Kind of ironic, since Belichick was hardly a model of loyalty. Didn't he bail out on the Jets when he was the anointed coach? What goes around comes around, I guess.

 

[Phokus]

It is 60 games.The Patriots coach certainly had no reason to embrace the protege who angered him by leaving for the New York Jets. After all, the Jets had just won 17-14 on a rainy Sunday, tightening the AFC East race that once loomed as a runaway for New England."I have a lot of great memories from here," Mangini said. "I'd like to add this to it."Belichick has refused to refer to the Jets coach by name since Mangini left after serving five years as his defensive backs coach and last season as defensive coordinator, helping the Patriots win three Super Bowl titles. Their first midfield meeting after the Patriots won in New York this season wasn't a study in warmth either.

Kind of ironic, since Belichick was hardly a model of loyalty. Didn't he bail out on the Jets when he was the anointed coach? What goes around comes around, I guess.

He had a good reason, he would've been under Parcell's complete control. I can understand why belichick is angry, mangini didn't really pay his dues and only coached as a defensive coordinator for 1 year.

 

[stevegamer]

OK, so what's the record the other way? I don't know, but I'd be curious to find out which franchise has gone the longest without consecutive wins. How about it, Dr. Drinen?

Not sure if it's the longest, but Tampa Bay went 75 straight without winning consecutive games in the 80's.

I'm thinking it's that Tampa team - I checked some of the woeful franchise on p-f-r, and many of those teams had a winning season thrown in to a stretch of suckitude.Th Cardinals came close, they had a stretch of season where they won 11 of 75, but 2 wins were consectutive in '42, I think. There were more losses piled in carryover seasons at either end, but that 2-0 start must have thrown their fans.

 

[DrJ]

OK, so what's the record the other way? I don't know, but I'd be curious to find out which franchise has gone the longest without consecutive wins. How about it, Dr. Drinen?

Not sure if it's the longest, but Tampa Bay went 75 straight without winning consecutive games in the 80's.

I'm thinking it's that Tampa team - I checked some of the woeful franchise on p-f-r, and many of those teams had a winning season thrown in to a stretch of suckitude.Th Cardinals came close, they had a stretch of season where they won 11 of 75, but 2 wins were consectutive in '42, I think. There were more losses piled in carryover seasons at either end, but that 2-0 start must have thrown their fans.

Even the Saints were able to get consecutive wins from time to time and the longest streak I could find for them was 48 games.

 

[eddie077]

The reason Belicheck despises Mangini right now is as i heard it reported, Mangini knew he was going to get the Jets job two weeks in advance of when he actually was named HC. In those two weeks he tried to convince many members of the Patriots staff (coaches, assistants etc.) to leave and go with him. Belicheck found out and this is the reason for his attitude toward Mangini.

 

[Phokus]

The reason Belicheck despises Mangini right now is as i heard it reported, Mangini knew he was going to get the Jets job two weeks in advance of when he actually was named HC. In those two weeks he tried to convince many members of the Patriots staff (coaches, assistants etc.) to leave and go with him. Belicheck found out and this is the reason for his attitude toward Mangini.

well that would do it

 

[Pat Patriot]

The reason Belicheck despises Mangini right now is as i heard it reported, Mangini knew he was going to get the Jets job two weeks in advance of when he actually was named HC. In those two weeks he tried to convince many members of the Patriots staff (coaches, assistants etc.) to leave and go with him. Belicheck found out and this is the reason for his attitude toward Mangini.

well that would do it

Isnt that pretty standard practice though? If you are trying to assemble a staff wouldnt your first choices be guys you have worked with already?

 

[Doug Drinen]

I was watching the game when they showed the graphic. The '95-'99 49ers hold the record with 60 games without back to back losses.

Interesting.I show the Cowboys without back-to-back losses for 67 games from mid-1965 to mid-1970.Four possibilites:1. My data is wrong.2. The program I wrote is wrong (although it correctly identifies the 49ers at 60 and the Pats at 57)3. The stat referenced in the graphic only counted teams since the merger (I went back to 1940).4. The stat referenced in the graphic was counting ties as losses. Twice during that run, the Cowboys had two consecutive non-wins. Here, according to my program, is each franchise's longest streak of games without two consecutive losses:

ENDEDTM   Streak   YR	WK----------------------dal	67	1970	9sfo	60	1999	6gnb	59	1945	8nwe	57	2006   10den	53	1979   16mia	52	1975   10min	51	1978	7cle	48	1954	1chi	46	1987   14rai	45	1978	9phi	45	2003	1pit	44	1980	7ram	43	1976   10clt	40	1972	1oti	39	1980	1was	39	1992	1buf	38	1992	6det	36	1955	2nyg	32	1960	9kan	31	1970	1cin	30	1983	2sdg	29	1980	6nyj	27	1986   13crd	26	1976   12nor	26	1988   10sea	26	2006	8atl	25	1999	2jax	23	2006	4tam	23	2003   10rav	17	2004   13car	16	2006	2htx	 6	2004   10

For The Jerk, here is each franchise's streak without two consecutive wins:

ENDEDTM   Streak   YR	WK----------------------tam	63	1989	1buf	62	1987	6det	49	1949   12nor	49	1973	5nwe	47	1991   16oti	46	1984   12crd	45	1946	7nyj	45	1997	5dal	43	1990   12ram	42	1994	1atl	41	1969   13nyg	40	1975   14clt	39	1983	5sfo	38	1980	2was	37	1963	3rai	36	1963	1kan	35	1978   14htx	35	2004	4chi	34	1976	1phi	33	1943	4mia	31	1970	3cle	30	2000	3cin	28	1999   13min	28	1964	1gnb	27	1959	2sea	27	1977   14den	27	1965	4sdg	25	2004	1pit	24	1970	5car	22	1998   17rav	20	2005   16jax	18	2003   14

I can't find a streak of 75 for the Bucs.

 

[Doug Drinen]

FYI:

According to my calculations, the 49ers went 285 games without losing three in a row. That steak lasted from the last week of 1980 until week 7 of 1999.

The next longest such streak is the Vikings, with 159, ending in 1979.

 

[radballs]

OK, so what's the record the other way? I don't know, but I'd be curious to find out which franchise has gone the longest without consecutive wins. How about it, Dr. Drinen?

Not sure if it's the longest, but Tampa Bay went 75 straight without winning consecutive games in the 80's.

That's an amazing streak of futility. I can't see that ever happening again in the salary cap era.

 

[The Jerk]

For The Jerk, here is each franchise's streak without two consecutive wins...

 

[The Man With No Name]

OK, so what's the record the other way? I don't know, but I'd be curious to find out which franchise has gone the longest without consecutive wins. How about it, Dr. Drinen?

Not sure if it's the longest, but Tampa Bay went 75 straight without winning consecutive games in the 80's.

That's an amazing streak of futility. I can't see that ever happening again in the salary cap era.

I guess it's only 63. I missed the back to back wins the last game of 1988+ the first game of 1989. Still a long streak with a lot of losses.

 

[Dr Phil's Posse]

wow

FYI:

According to my calculations, the 49ers went 285 games without losing three in a row. That steak lasted from the last week of 1980 until week 7 of 1999.

The next longest such streak is the Vikings, with 159, ending in 1979.