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NFL viewership off 11% YOY (1 Viewer)

So it was a combo of some bad matchups, the election, and the cubs in the playoffs. Pretty much what most normal people said.

 
Those were the best games of the season so no surprise the ratings were up. It's just been kind of a blah season with the exception of a couple of teams. Match ups in primetime haven't been exactly stellar.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
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Parity sucks.  It basically means that a bunch of teams are both mediocre and thin, and these coin-flip games aren't really all that entertaining when you realize that neither team is particularly good.
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This is part of the reason I just don't find the storylines in the NFL all that compelling, particularly compared to the NBA (and even MLB). In the NBA, you are watching legacies being built every season. While the NFL does have that to some degree, the league largely just feels like who gets hot at the right time. At the end of the season, it just doesn't feel like the season meant very much in the grand scheme of things. I lose interest seeing a team be great one season then be absolutely terrible the next (see Panthers, Cardinals, much of the Roethlisberger and Rodgers eras, the last 5 years of the Falcons). Outside of Patriots (who play a soft schedule every year), and maybe the Seahawks for the next couple of seasons, it feels like we are just watching a random smattering of mediocre teams shuffle every season. Now, I realize that's a personal bias, as there are certainly compelling storylines in the NFL each season.

Then you have the NBA, where there you've got possibly the greatest player in league history writing his legacy every season, and a handful of great teams. Sure, some don't like having so many teams with no shot every year (and as a Hornets fan, I get that), but for me, it just leaves each season feeling like it meant more in the grand scheme of things.

 
pollardsvision said:
This is part of the reason I just don't find the storylines in the NFL all that compelling, particularly compared to the NBA (and even MLB). In the NBA, you are watching legacies being built every season. While the NFL does have that to some degree, the league largely just feels like who gets hot at the right time. At the end of the season, it just doesn't feel like the season meant very much in the grand scheme of things. I lose interest seeing a team be great one season then be absolutely terrible the next (see Panthers, Cardinals, much of the Roethlisberger and Rodgers eras, the last 5 years of the Falcons). Outside of Patriots (who play a soft schedule every year), and maybe the Seahawks for the next couple of seasons, it feels like we are just watching a random smattering of mediocre teams shuffle every season. Now, I realize that's a personal bias, as there are certainly compelling storylines in the NFL each season.

Then you have the NBA, where there you've got possibly the greatest player in league history writing his legacy every season, and a handful of great teams. Sure, some don't like having so many teams with no shot every year (and as a Hornets fan, I get that), but for me, it just leaves each season feeling like it meant more in the grand scheme of things.
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I'm the exact opposite. Seeing the same exact teams won every year is boring. Sure the individual accomplishments of nba players is amazing but we all know what the finals is gonna be. The season up until then is basically worthless.

 
Cleveland would win something like 57-10, if not worse..   No way Bama could handle the size, speed, and depth..  these college vs pros thing is ridiculous :lmao:

 
The last couple of weeks have featured some good, entertaining football.

Part of the problem is lack of practice time. It takes until this part of the season before players and teams figure out what they're doing.

 
Watching the game become 'soft' has been a turn-off for me personally.  I'm getting tired of seeing a safety lay out a receiver and having his clear-cut message of "don't come in this area" get neutered seconds later by a flag.  He's not a defenseless receiver; he has pads and helmet on.  Just don't go across the middle, dammit.  Every defensive player is walking on eggshells now looking for laundry on the field after every hit.  Damn shame what the game has become.  And yes I'm a baby boomer.

 
I am fine with some end zone celebration, but watching players strut around after ONE good play, needs to be scaled back.

 
Yes.  Apparently I missed a good game between the Chiefs and Broncos the other night.  But like with most things, the NFL took a fun thing and just way overdid it.  It's just like anything else.  I would imagine in the future they will attempt Thursday and Friday night games or some other such nonsense.  

 
I think what hurts is that it's almost impossible to play defense anymore. Think you made a good stop on 3rd down? Oh, there's a flag on the other side of the field for illegal contact. Automatic 1st down. Doesn't matter that it was 3rd and 15.

The only defensive penalty that isn't an automatic 1st down is offsides. Everything else, no matter the down and distance, is an automatic 1st.

 
Mr. Mojo said:
I am fine with some end zone celebration, but watching players strut around after ONE good play, needs to be scaled back.
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It's even funnier when a defensive guy is getting his ### kicked up and down the field and then a ball happens to bounce his way and he's all Dikembe Mutumbo with the finger wag.  It's like really dumb ###?  

 
MattFancy said:
I think what hurts is that it's almost impossible to play defense anymore. Think you made a good stop on 3rd down? Oh, there's a flag on the other side of the field for illegal contact. Automatic 1st down. Doesn't matter that it was 3rd and 15.

The only defensive penalty that isn't an automatic 1st down is offsides. Everything else, no matter the down and distance, is an automatic 1st.
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Yeah, the NFL has totally stacked the deck in favor of offense.  And yet they have stupid rules about how much air a ball must have in it.  I say let the QB put as much or little air as he wants in the ball.  Why not?  

 
Uruk-Hai said:
I'd offer better odds than cstu in an election year and take Cleveland every day of the week. They'd annihilate a college team.
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NFL rules and refs? Absolutely. Cleveland would cover on Bama penalties on defense alone with the size/speed difference and the Bama players compensating.

 
Mr. Mojo said:
I am fine with some end zone celebration, but watching players strut around after ONE good play, needs to be scaled back.
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So wife and I are watching Steelers vs Indy on Thanksgiving

AB scores, does his little dance, then the handshake thing.  Get a penalty.

My wife, who watches maybe 1 game a year "they got a penalty for that?, why? what was so bad about that? thats dumb"

 
Monday Final Nationals: Colts-Jets on ESPN Delivers ‘Monday Night Football’ Record-Low Among Adults 18-49

NBC wrestled the Monday night total-viewer crown away from ESPN with the combo of “The Voice” and “Timeless,” averaging 8.44 million total viewers in prime time.

Indianapolis Colts’ walloping 41-10 Week 13 victory over the New York Jets on ESPN drew the second lowest viewership ever for a “Monday Night Football” game — 8.091 million total viewers, just 44,000 above the all-time “MNF” low of 8.047 million for Falcons-Saints from Sep. 26 which had taken place opposite the first Donald Trump-Hillary Clinton presidential debate. Among adults 18-49, Colts-Jets delivered an all-time “MNF” low of 3.351 million viewers within the demographic.

 
NewlyRetired said:
Monday Final Nationals: Colts-Jets on ESPN Delivers ‘Monday Night Football’ Record-Low Among Adults 18-49

NBC wrestled the Monday night total-viewer crown away from ESPN with the combo of “The Voice” and “Timeless,” averaging 8.44 million total viewers in prime time.

Indianapolis Colts’ walloping 41-10 Week 13 victory over the New York Jets on ESPN drew the second lowest viewership ever for a “Monday Night Football” game — 8.091 million total viewers, just 44,000 above the all-time “MNF” low of 8.047 million for Falcons-Saints from Sep. 26 which had taken place opposite the first Donald Trump-Hillary Clinton presidential debate. Among adults 18-49, Colts-Jets delivered an all-time “MNF” low of 3.351 million viewers within the demographic.
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That being a stinker of a game didn't help.  I can honestly say that is the first MNF game in YEARS I didn't see a single play of.  

 
Maybe they should stop force-feeding ####ty big market teams down our throats. :shrug:  I wouldn't watch the ####ing Jets play if they were in my back yard.

The titans/Bucs/Falcons and others are exciting, young and hardly ever on national TV. 

 
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I stopped getting cable a couple years ago so I wouldn't be supporting ESPN and NFL Network (among others). I enjoy watching games but got tired of the replays, commercials, the number of talking heads involved in the pre-game and post-game shows. Why are there so many people on the broadcast talking non-sense? If a game is on NBC, FOX, or CBS, I'll watch the game until the stoppage in play gets irritating then I'll turn the channel and look over the game stats later. The networks are doing a terrible job of presenting the game.

 
gunther said:
I stopped getting cable a couple years ago so I wouldn't be supporting ESPN and NFL Network (among others). I enjoy watching games but got tired of the replays, commercials, the number of talking heads involved in the pre-game and post-game shows. Why are there so many people on the broadcast talking non-sense? If a game is on NBC, FOX, or CBS, I'll watch the game until the stoppage in play gets irritating then I'll turn the channel and look over the game stats later. The networks are doing a terrible job of presenting the game.
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Absolutely, they've killed the flow of the game.

 
I am in the Philadelphia market, and the only game they give us on CBS is the NYJ-SF game. Honestly, why in the world would they do that? i get the whole AFC-CBS, and NFC-FOX, but i can see no reason why you would want to put that on TV out of market. i have turned on some God awful TV looking for something to watch as i watch my fantasy scores on my computer. 

 
modogg said:
I am in the Philadelphia market, and the only game they give us on CBS is the NYJ-SF game. Honestly, why in the world would they do that? i get the whole AFC-CBS, and NFC-FOX, but i can see no reason why you would want to put that on TV out of market. i have turned on some God awful TV looking for something to watch as i watch my fantasy scores on my computer. 
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It's probably Goodell punishing you guys for being the NFLs worst fans

 
modogg said:
I am in the Philadelphia market, and the only game they give us on CBS is the NYJ-SF game. Honestly, why in the world would they do that? i get the whole AFC-CBS, and NFC-FOX, but i can see no reason why you would want to put that on TV out of market. i have turned on some God awful TV looking for something to watch as i watch my fantasy scores on my computer. 
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Pretty sure Philadelphia is the secondary market for New York.  Baltimore playing on Monday night and the giants playing Sunday night.

may also have to do with the rules about telecasts when the eagles play at home and cbs not having a game at the same time.  Something like that.

 
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Long Ball Larry said:
Pretty sure Philadelphia is the secondary market for New York.  Baltimore playing on Monday night and the giants playing Sunday night.
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yeah, i get that. but common sense would seem to suggest that there might be a better game to put on TV (i don't think any other AFC teams were playing at 4:00 either). just a bit of an archaic system assuming people want to watch a team because they are closest in proximity

 
Long Ball Larry said:
Pretty sure Philadelphia is the secondary market for New York.  Baltimore playing on Monday night and the giants playing Sunday night.

may also have to do with the rules about telecasts when the eagles play at home and cbs not having a game at the same time.  Something like that.
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Its the rules. When Eagles are at home you get only their game in that slot. We do get a lot of Steelers games though

 
Watched the movie "Concussion" on a flight home last night.   Wonder if this is another factor in the decline.

 
Getzlaf15 said:
probably not, but the issue is in the news, a movie and is another negative on the NFL.
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Back in the day, when a Viking would smoke an opposing player and the guy would be layed out, my friends and I would be throwing high fives all around. Now? It's silence and hoping the guy is just taking a breather.

 
Jobber said:
Back in the day, when a Viking would smoke an opposing player and the guy would be layed out, my friends and I would be throwing high fives all around. Now? It's silence and hoping the guy is just taking a breather.
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We would do the same and at times scream "knocked him out cold!!" when a player was laying there "Or get the cart" Now I don`t want to see anyone to get hit like that anymore.

  The NFL and ESPN conditioned us that the joy of the sport was the sudden high impact where bodies were sprawled all over the field. The NFL even had their own videos called "Crunch Course" that showed huge hits and KOs. Players wanted kill shots that made the highlight reel instead of just tackling a guy.

There was a big hit on Sunday in the Green Bay game and they did not even show the replay.

 
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