NFLPA Team Report Cards (2 Viewers)

[BobbyLayne]

Thought this was interesting....

The NFLPA released its first ever team report cards based on surveying roughly 1,300 players.

For example, the Detroit Lions Team Report Card ranked 15th overall. Highest grade was in Team Travel (A 4th overall), lowest category was in Food Service/Nutrition (D- 28th overall).

Spoiler: details

Lions grades
Treatment of Families: B (Ranked 14th)

• They offer a family room and daycare, but with limited space
• Post-Game Gathering Area: Tied for 17th

Food Service / Nutrition: D- (28th)

• Players feel that there are not a lot of food options available
• All three meals provided
• Only 59% of players say there is enough room for everyone in the cafeteria.

Weight Room: B+ (tied for 13th)

• 98% feel they have enough strength coaches

Strength Staff: A- (Tied for 17th)

• The players believe that the strength coaches significantly add to their individual success. Most teams rated their strength staffs positively, which is why the Lions are tied for 17th but still receive a high grade overall.
• 83% of players believe they receive an individual plan (Tied for 27th)

Training Room: D+ (tied for 24th)

Staffing:

• 80% feel they have enough ATCs (6th worst in the league)
• 64% feel they have enough PTs (6th worst in the league)

Steam Room/Sauna:

• There is a sauna (92% feel it is big enough)
• One of only 4 teams in the NFL that does not provide a steam room

Tubs:

• 78% of players feel they have enough hot tub space
• 80% of players feel they have enough cold tub space

Training Staff: B+ (tied for 22nd)

• The players believe that the training staff moderately adds to their individual success. Most teams rated their training staffs positively, which is why the Lions are tied for 22nd but still receive a respectable grade.

Locker Room: B (tied for 14th)

• Overall, the locker room was rated as slightly above average compared to all the other teams. Not much to complain about, but nothing to brag about either.
• 93% of players feel like they have enough space (13th)

Travel: A (Tied for 4th)

• 95% of players feel like they have enough room to spread out
• No players are forced to have roommates
• A lot of first-class seats made available to players

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Cardinals with an F is not shocking

Bengals with an F is shocking

 

[BobbyLayne]

Cardinals with an F is not shocking

Bengals with an F is shocking

Mike Brown is notoriously cheap, Cincy has always had below average facility.

Michael Bidwell is another one of the "ten poorest NFL owners" which if I recall correctly puts his net worth at about $1.4Bn.

A lot of the legacy owners are like that. Steelers are 22nd overall and 29th in facilities.

Bears (13th overall) got a lot of A grades. They have been modernizing and renovating, team sucks but at least ownership is doing their part.

Similarly, Sheila Hamp (née Ford) is at Allen Park everyday and has really made an effort to improve everything. They moved the turf replacement (one of six NFL stadiums with slit film) up a full year because of the feedback she got from players this past year.

ASIDE - Josh Johnson - the QB who has been with 20 teams, most recently Titans - was there two weeks last season on the practice squad. He was on Busing with the Boys raving about what a great culture it is. D.J. Chark, now a UFA, recently contrasted Detroit and Jacksonville, and he said two things stand out: 1) everyone is accountable, not just on the team but in the building. IF you complain about something, it gets changed, and 2) they know your kids names. Like not just the stars, but like the last man on the practice squad. Everyone is treated like family.

 

[fatness]

Commanders: "We're number 32! We're number 32!"
Dan Snyder: **** off, I'm fighting the world to cover up what I did.

 

[GregR]

I'm honestly surprised... Texans #4 overall and top ten in every category. With #1 in training staff and travel. Though I suppose it's been mostly dumb front office decisions, not facilities, that has been their issue.

 

[Desert_Power]

For example, the Detroit Lions Team Report Card ranked 15th overall. Highest grade was in Team Travel (A 4th overall), lowest category was in Food Service/Nutrition (D- 28th overall).

Kneecaps are not a well rounded diet

 

[BobbyLayne]

Buried the lead:

Ranking No. 1 overall in football facilities, staff and overall treatment of players: the #Vikings, followed by the #Dolphins at 2 and #Raiders at 3.

 

[LawFitz]

This is an underrated concept. In the salary cap age, teams that can differentiate/excel in other ways (coaching, culture, facilities, lifestyle, taxation, etc.) can gain advantage. Every inch counts in the modern NFL.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

The Arizona Cardinals seem like one of the worst.
F- how do you score an F-Minus?

-Meanwhile, Miami somehow scores an A+ or an A in 7 of the 8 categories

 

[Snoopy]

The Arizona Cardinals seem like one of the worst.
F- how do you score an F-Minus?

-Meanwhile, Miami somehow scores an A+ or an A in 7 of the 8 categories

NFLPA hits Cardinals for worst weight room, charging players who eat meals at team facility - ProFootballTalk

The NFL players’ union says the Cardinals are the only team in the league that charges players to have dinner at the team facility, and have the worst the weight room in the league.The Cardinals’ report card issued by the NFL Players Association says that players on the Cardinals were the only...

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Cardinals with an F is not shocking

Bengals with an F is shocking

ASIDE - Josh Johnson - the QB who has been with 20 teams, most recently Titans - was there two weeks last season on the practice squad. He was on Busing with the Boys raving about what a great culture it is. D.J. Chark, now a UFA, recently contrasted Detroit and Jacksonville, and he said two things stand out: 1) everyone is accountable, not just on the team but in the building. IF you complain about something, it gets changed, and 2) they know your kids names. Like not just the stars, but like the last man on the practice squad. Everyone is treated like family.

Great post, but FWIW Josh Johnson was most recently with the Niners, trying to lead them to super bowl.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Cardinals with an F is not shocking

Bengals with an F is shocking

ASIDE - Josh Johnson - the QB who has been with 20 teams, most recently Titans - was there two weeks last season on the practice squad. He was on Busing with the Boys raving about what a great culture it is. D.J. Chark, now a UFA, recently contrasted Detroit and Jacksonville, and he said two things stand out: 1) everyone is accountable, not just on the team but in the building. IF you complain about something, it gets changed, and 2) they know your kids names. Like not just the stars, but like the last man on the practice squad. Everyone is treated like family.

Great post, but FWIW Josh Johnson was most recently with the Niners, trying to lead them to super bowl.

Bold description. I appreciate your creative license.

 

[massraider]

Commanders: "We're number 32! We're number 32!"
Dan Snyder: **** off, I'm fighting the world to cover up what I did.

First, let me say that Commanders fans have my unwavering empathy.

I was reading about the action filed by his minority partners, and the $50 mil line of credit Snyder had taken out. Andrew Brandt has recent podcast discussing this, and it's really a good listen. There's thought out there's that Snyder really is kind of cash poor. Issued himself a $10 mill salary, nickel and diming everything, and falsifying revenue numbers to rip off the NFL. You may know this already, I did not.

 

[massraider]

Man, that Ravens F- for strength coaches is really become a thing on Twitter. Former players dragging the team online.

EDIT: https://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2...ens-strength-coaches-following-nflpas-f-grade

 

[Leroy Hoard]

This is an underrated concept. In the salary cap age, teams that can differentiate/excel in other ways (coaching, culture, facilities, lifestyle, taxation, etc.) can gain advantage. Every inch counts in the modern NFL.

Good post. The better teams find ways to improve their team that don't involve the salary cap. And players notice this stuff.

 

[menobrown]

The Arizona Cardinals seem like one of the worst.
F- how do you score an F-Minus?

They are the only team that charges their players for some meals they get from the team cafeteria.

 

[menobrown]

This report was interesting especially when you click on each team and read details. Really crazy how much some of these teams penny pinch and the difference in how some teams operate.

One thing that really got me was seeing what I think is 7 teams that make you have a roommate on road trips. That blows. The NFL is to big of a business to make grown men have to share a room and bathroom.

 

[massraider]

They are the only team that charges their players for some meals they get from the team cafeteria.

There was an ex-scout on Twitter who was like, visiting teams always fed me for free when I was there, and these guys charge their OWN players??

 

[Ministry of Pain]

The Arizona Cardinals seem like one of the worst.
F- how do you score an F-Minus?

They are the only team that charges their players for some meals they get from the team cafeteria.

That's one beef-a-roni, sorry two beef-a-roni, didn't see that 2nd tray you were pulling there big guy.
One chicken fried-steak n gravy, mashed potatoes and then you've got one slice of blueberry pie and one slice of apple pie
Large Ice-Tea....(push and pull a few more buttons on the old cash register)
That'll be $57.24, cash or credit?

 

[BobbyLayne]

Cardinals with an F is not shocking

Bengals with an F is shocking

ASIDE - Josh Johnson - the QB who has been with 20 teams, most recently Titans - was there two weeks last season on the practice squad. He was on Busing with the Boys raving about what a great culture it is. D.J. Chark, now a UFA, recently contrasted Detroit and Jacksonville, and he said two things stand out: 1) everyone is accountable, not just on the team but in the building. IF you complain about something, it gets changed, and 2) they know your kids names. Like not just the stars, but like the last man on the practice squad. Everyone is treated like family.

Great post, but FWIW Josh Johnson was most recently with the Niners, trying to lead them to super bowl.

He'll probably have switched teams two more times by the time you see my reply.

 

[fatness]

I was reading about the action filed by his minority partners, and the $50 mil line of credit Snyder had taken out. Andrew Brandt has recent podcast discussing this, and it's really a good listen. There's thought out there's that Snyder really is kind of cash poor. Issued himself a $10 mill salary, nickel and diming everything, and falsifying revenue numbers to rip off the NFL. You may know this already, I did not.

I didn't know he was cash poor until he had to get a loan to buy out his partners. But I've known for years what a POS he is. He sued a grandmother over season ticket money.

 

[BobbyLayne]

I was reading about the action filed by his minority partners, and the $50 mil line of credit Snyder had taken out. Andrew Brandt has recent podcast discussing this, and it's really a good listen. There's thought out there's that Snyder really is kind of cash poor. Issued himself a $10 mill salary, nickel and diming everything, and falsifying revenue numbers to rip off the NFL. You may know this already, I did not.

I didn't know he was cash poor until he had to get a loan to buy out his partners. But I've known for years what a POS he is. He sued a grandmother over season ticket money.

Wealthy or cash poor, a lot of owners are not exactly swell people. David Tepper (Panthers) spent $43M to buy his old bosses house. From the guy's ex-wife. Then he bulldozed it.

(oceanfront mansion in the Hamptons)

 

[fatness]

The best thing about these team report cards is that they're based on what the players on the teams themselves reported. Not on reports from beat reporters or talking heads.

 

[Dave Stauff]

Curious about the format of the poll . . . if each team's own players are the ones rating themselves, as I would assume, then we don't have an apples to apples comparison. Appreciation of family might be a B+ on one team and a C on another - based on the perception of the players from those teams that participated in the polling. Not much to see here except some anecdotal information about specific issues that make you scratch your head (rats, pay for meals, etc.)

 

[travdogg]

I wonder if something like this could end up playing a role in where FAs sign. I'm sure some things are just known around the league, but like, why would anyone sign with Arizona unless they were offering a much larger salary then say, Miami?

 

[joey]

Raiders finally good at something.

 

[rockaction]

Gossip dirt

 

[BobbyLayne]

Gossip dirt

You don't think it's useful to measure the quality of care and facilities provided the players and their families?

Seems like an effective way to spur change. How do you manage without measuring, that kind of thing.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

why would anyone sign with Arizona

They look good in red?

 

[Snoopy]

why would anyone sign with Arizona

They look good in red?

Then often wear black.

 

[humpback]

This is an underrated concept. In the salary cap age, teams that can differentiate/excel in other ways (coaching, culture, facilities, lifestyle, taxation, etc.) can gain advantage. Every inch counts in the modern NFL.

Good post. The better teams find ways to improve their team that don't involve the salary cap. And players notice this stuff.

You would think, but it doesn't seem to be correlated. Some of the best teams are ranked the worst (KC #29th and Cincinnati #27th) while some of the worst teams are ranked the highest (the Raiders are 3rd and Houston is 4th).

 

[eighsse2]

This is an underrated concept. In the salary cap age, teams that can differentiate/excel in other ways (coaching, culture, facilities, lifestyle, taxation, etc.) can gain advantage. Every inch counts in the modern NFL.

Good post. The better teams find ways to improve their team that don't involve the salary cap. And players notice this stuff.

You would think, but it doesn't seem to be correlated. Some of the best teams are ranked the worst (KC #29th and Cincinnati #27th) while some of the worst teams are ranked the highest (the Raiders are 3rd and Houston is 4th).

Where did you find an overall ranking? All I could find was the 8 separate categories. Unless you added things up yourself.

ETA: Nevermind, just found it, simply click the team name.

 

[massraider]

You don't think it's useful to measure the quality of care and facilities provided the players and their families?

Seems like an effective way to spur change. How do you manage without measuring, that kind of thing

I think a bunch of former players hitting Twitter to accuse a team of basically wrecking their careers (Ravens) is a pretty big deal.

Anyone who hasn't followed it, Rashod Batemen tweeted at his GM about keeping players healthy, and a bunch of former Ravens confirmed it, with details. Ravens just fired their strength coach of 8 years.

 

[fatness]

Curious about the format of the poll

It's down below the table of results but there's an explanation there.

Questions were sent to every player on the 2022 team rosters asking them their opinions about their Club’s facilities, certain Club personnel/coaches, and other work-related categories, such as Club’s treatment of families and team travel (players were not asked questions about any Club other than their 2022 employer). As a result of the confidential questionnaire, 1,300 players responded. There then was a qualitative follow up by the union, which resulted in the following “report card.”

The questions called for both quantitative and qualitative answers; for example: “Grade your weight room with 1 reflecting best rating, 5 reflecting lowest rating” and “What would you change about your weight room?” The numerical ratings for each sub-category of questions were tallied and averaged. The questionnaire also sought to elicit the opinion of players on some issues that have a direct impact on the quality of life for NFL players. These qualitative responses, which are inherently subjective, were reviewed and evaluated by the union and then factored into providing an overall rating that was intended to reflect player opinions.

Based upon all of this information, the rankings from Club to Club were determined by comparing how each Club graded in each category.

 

[TripleThreat]

The Arizona Cardinals seem like one of the worst.
F- how do you score an F-Minus?

-Meanwhile, Miami somehow scores an A+ or an A in 7 of the 8 categories

Ross has never been shy about opening his checkbook.

 

[Ilov80s]

Thought this was interesting....

The NFLPA released its first ever team report cards based on surveying roughly 1,300 players.

For example, the Detroit Lions Team Report Card ranked 15th overall. Highest grade was in Team Travel (A 4th overall), lowest category was in Food Service/Nutrition (D- 28th overall).

Spoiler: details

Lions grades
Treatment of Families: B (Ranked 14th)

• They offer a family room and daycare, but with limited space
• Post-Game Gathering Area: Tied for 17th

Food Service / Nutrition: D- (28th)

• Players feel that there are not a lot of food options available
• All three meals provided
• Only 59% of players say there is enough room for everyone in the cafeteria.

Weight Room: B+ (tied for 13th)

• 98% feel they have enough strength coaches

Strength Staff: A- (Tied for 17th)

• The players believe that the strength coaches significantly add to their individual success. Most teams rated their strength staffs positively, which is why the Lions are tied for 17th but still receive a high grade overall.
• 83% of players believe they receive an individual plan (Tied for 27th)

Training Room: D+ (tied for 24th)

Staffing:

• 80% feel they have enough ATCs (6th worst in the league)
• 64% feel they have enough PTs (6th worst in the league)

Steam Room/Sauna:

• There is a sauna (92% feel it is big enough)
• One of only 4 teams in the NFL that does not provide a steam room

Tubs:

• 78% of players feel they have enough hot tub space
• 80% of players feel they have enough cold tub space

Training Staff: B+ (tied for 22nd)

• The players believe that the training staff moderately adds to their individual success. Most teams rated their training staffs positively, which is why the Lions are tied for 22nd but still receive a respectable grade.

Locker Room: B (tied for 14th)

• Overall, the locker room was rated as slightly above average compared to all the other teams. Not much to complain about, but nothing to brag about either.
• 93% of players feel like they have enough space (13th)

Travel: A (Tied for 4th)

• 95% of players feel like they have enough room to spread out
• No players are forced to have roommates
• A lot of first-class seats made available to players

Knowing the Lions current management, I would bet they take this seriously and attempt to improve in the low areas.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

This is an underrated concept. In the salary cap age, teams that can differentiate/excel in other ways (coaching, culture, facilities, lifestyle, taxation, etc.) can gain advantage. Every inch counts in the modern NFL.

I do think it matters, but not as much as where a person lives. Most of these guys have families. They are looking for the same things a lot of us are ... good schools, good weather, things to do, for family to be close, keep the wife happy, how far can my money go here (taxes), etc. They are only in the building ~25 weeks a year. And they only travel with the team to about ~11 games per year. Hotels, planes,, food, and training tables are niceties. Fact is most of these guys had better facilities and niceties in college. I think they probably care more about their offseason wish list than in-season wish list.

 

[JohnnyU]

why would anyone sign with Arizona

They look good in red?

I hate when teams deviate from Their traditional uniforms for all black uniforms. Same for New Orleans, Eagles, Ravens, Jets maybe? I can’t remember. Panthers don’t look bad in all black however.

 

[BobbyLayne]

I somehow missed that the Cardinals are the only team in the NFL to make players pay for meals they consume at the facility. It's a payroll deduction.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Been a lot of talk about these reports on podcasts this week. I learned everybody loves their strength coach. That guy and his staff have to be on, everyday, don't even think about coming in if you're not bringing energy and intensity. Even the teams that gave their team an F in facilities (or in the case of Arizona, F-), they all rated their strength coach and training staff B or above.

Detroit fired their strength & conditioning coach (+ staff) at the end of 2016 and again in 2019. In both cases I heard/read rumors they were both cancerous and brought a lot of negativity to the building. You can't have a bad day in that job, if you're prone to being moody you're in the wrong profession.

 

[GroveDiesel]

So basically the LA teams built this amazing $2B stadium and years later neither team has built their actual training facilities (the report says the Rams haven’t even broken ground on theirs). Oof.

 

[Sarlakticacid]

So basically the LA teams built this amazing $2B stadium and years later neither team has built their actual training facilities (the report says the Rams haven’t even broken ground on theirs). Oof.

What do you expect from Kronke?

Wasn’t it being said, not sure when, that he was having financial issues while building the stadium or just after?