NHL Off-Season thread:Down goes Kane! (2 Viewers)

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Pretty lame if Oduya plays the loyal soldier, patiently waiting for Chicago and then they turn around and bring in Daley as his replacement.

Well that's really what has happened according to rumors. I just don't understand why Bowman would want anything other than cap space for Sharp.

I think Daley is better than you're giving him credit for. Guy had 16 goals last year and played 23 minutes/game that included top-pairing minutes on the PP and the PK. He should do fine as a 2nd pairing guy in Chicago.

How much cheaper of a deal would Oduya be willing to take in Chicago? If he turned down $5MM/year for 3 years already, would he stick in Chicago for $4MM? Tough to say if the Hawks could have fit him in or not.

EDIT: I realize he wasn't very good last year, but still not sure he's washed up as this article implies: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/what-trevor-daley-can-teach-us-about-defensemen-in-decline--trending-topics-180540176.html

 

[Billy Bats]

Not sure what everyone is bashing Don Sweeney for, this guy has it all figured out:

@Bruins_Stats: This morning on the radio Don Sweeney said it's as simple as Hamilton+Lucic+Smith = 41 goals, Beleskey+Hayes = 41 goals.

10:47am - 14 Jul 15

He's running a pro team like some people run their fantasy teams.

 

[Hawks64]

Pretty lame if Oduya plays the loyal soldier, patiently waiting for Chicago and then they turn around and bring in Daley as his replacement.

Well that's really what has happened according to rumors. I just don't understand why Bowman would want anything other than cap space for Sharp.

I think Daley is better than you're giving him credit for. Guy had 16 goals last year and played 23 minutes/game that included top-pairing minutes on the PP and the PK. He should do fine as a 2nd pairing guy in Chicago.

How much cheaper of a deal would Oduya be willing to take in Chicago? If he turned down $5MM/year for 3 years already, would he stick in Chicago for $4MM? Tough to say if the Hawks could have fit him in or not.

Daley is fine offensively but defensively he's not very good, not very responsible, which hurts. He's not going to pair with Hammer, who gets the shutdown role, so you put him with Keith? That's going to kill Keith and make him assume the more responsible role.

TBH I wouldn't care all that much if it weren't for Oduya potentially re-signing. The rumor was very close to his current salary. But again all rumor so who knows.

 

[northern exposure]

Pretty lame if Oduya plays the loyal soldier, patiently waiting for Chicago and then they turn around and bring in Daley as his replacement.

Well that's really what has happened according to rumors. I just don't understand why Bowman would want anything other than cap space for Sharp.

I think Daley is better than you're giving him credit for. Guy had 16 goals last year and played 23 minutes/game that included top-pairing minutes on the PP and the PK. He should do fine as a 2nd pairing guy in Chicago.How much cheaper of a deal would Oduya be willing to take in Chicago? If he turned down $5MM/year for 3 years already, would he stick in Chicago for $4MM? Tough to say if the Hawks could have fit him in or not.

Daley is fine offensively but defensively he's not very good, not very responsible, which hurts. He's not going to pair with Hammer, who gets the shutdown role, so you put him with Keith? That's going to kill Keith and make him assume the more responsible role.TBH I wouldn't care all that much if it weren't for Oduya potentially re-signing. The rumor was very close to his current salary. But again all rumor so who knows.

But, Oduya was making around 3 to 3.3 mill and the Hawks only have about a $1 mill in cap space. Bowman still has to move out some salary to add Oduya's contract.Most likely candidates are Bickell and Versteeg, but who is going to take them with their $4.5 to $4.7 mill cap hits?

 

[Hawks64]

Pretty lame if Oduya plays the loyal soldier, patiently waiting for Chicago and then they turn around and bring in Daley as his replacement.

Well that's really what has happened according to rumors. I just don't understand why Bowman would want anything other than cap space for Sharp.

I think Daley is better than you're giving him credit for. Guy had 16 goals last year and played 23 minutes/game that included top-pairing minutes on the PP and the PK. He should do fine as a 2nd pairing guy in Chicago.How much cheaper of a deal would Oduya be willing to take in Chicago? If he turned down $5MM/year for 3 years already, would he stick in Chicago for $4MM? Tough to say if the Hawks could have fit him in or not.

Daley is fine offensively but defensively he's not very good, not very responsible, which hurts. He's not going to pair with Hammer, who gets the shutdown role, so you put him with Keith? That's going to kill Keith and make him assume the more responsible role.TBH I wouldn't care all that much if it weren't for Oduya potentially re-signing. The rumor was very close to his current salary. But again all rumor so who knows.

But, Oduya was making around 3 to 3.3 mill and the Hawks only have about a $1 mill in cap space. Bowman still has to move out some salary to add Oduya's contract.

That was before the Sharp trade. If the Hawks had traded Sharp for a prospect or pick then Oduya and Kruger could have been signed. Not sure Kruger will be able to be resigned now. Oduya will sign elsewhere and it sounds likely to be Dallas.

 

[northern exposure]

Pretty lame if Oduya plays the loyal soldier, patiently waiting for Chicago and then they turn around and bring in Daley as his replacement.

Well that's really what has happened according to rumors. I just don't understand why Bowman would want anything other than cap space for Sharp.

I think Daley is better than you're giving him credit for. Guy had 16 goals last year and played 23 minutes/game that included top-pairing minutes on the PP and the PK. He should do fine as a 2nd pairing guy in Chicago.How much cheaper of a deal would Oduya be willing to take in Chicago? If he turned down $5MM/year for 3 years already, would he stick in Chicago for $4MM? Tough to say if the Hawks could have fit him in or not.

Daley is fine offensively but defensively he's not very good, not very responsible, which hurts. He's not going to pair with Hammer, who gets the shutdown role, so you put him with Keith? That's going to kill Keith and make him assume the more responsible role.TBH I wouldn't care all that much if it weren't for Oduya potentially re-signing. The rumor was very close to his current salary. But again all rumor so who knows.

But, Oduya was making around 3 to 3.3 mill and the Hawks only have about a $1 mill in cap space. Bowman still has to move out some salary to add Oduya's contract.

That was before the Sharp trade. If the Hawks had traded Sharp for a prospect or pick then Oduya and Kruger could have been signed. Not sure Kruger will be able to be resigned now. Oduya will sign elsewhere and it sounds likely to be Dallas.

nhlnumbers shows Chicago with 1.3 mill in cap space after the Sharp trade. They gave up Sharp's salary, but added Daley's and Garbutt's.

 

[Hawks64]

Pretty lame if Oduya plays the loyal soldier, patiently waiting for Chicago and then they turn around and bring in Daley as his replacement.

Well that's really what has happened according to rumors. I just don't understand why Bowman would want anything other than cap space for Sharp.

I think Daley is better than you're giving him credit for. Guy had 16 goals last year and played 23 minutes/game that included top-pairing minutes on the PP and the PK. He should do fine as a 2nd pairing guy in Chicago.How much cheaper of a deal would Oduya be willing to take in Chicago? If he turned down $5MM/year for 3 years already, would he stick in Chicago for $4MM? Tough to say if the Hawks could have fit him in or not.

Daley is fine offensively but defensively he's not very good, not very responsible, which hurts. He's not going to pair with Hammer, who gets the shutdown role, so you put him with Keith? That's going to kill Keith and make him assume the more responsible role.TBH I wouldn't care all that much if it weren't for Oduya potentially re-signing. The rumor was very close to his current salary. But again all rumor so who knows.

But, Oduya was making around 3 to 3.3 mill and the Hawks only have about a $1 mill in cap space. Bowman still has to move out some salary to add Oduya's contract.

That was before the Sharp trade. If the Hawks had traded Sharp for a prospect or pick then Oduya and Kruger could have been signed. Not sure Kruger will be able to be resigned now. Oduya will sign elsewhere and it sounds likely to be Dallas.

nhlnumbers shows Chicago with 1.3 mill in cap space after the Sharp trade. They gave up Sharp's salary, but added Daley's and Garbutt's.

Yep they did. I think it was a poor trade when you're trying to clear space. Apparently the Hawks think highly enough of Daley and Garbutt to lose Oduya and possibly Kruger as well as their best D prospect in Johns.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Not sure what everyone is bashing Don Sweeney for, this guy has it all figured out:

@Bruins_Stats: This morning on the radio Don Sweeney said it's as simple as Hamilton+Lucic+Smith = 41 goals, Beleskey+Hayes = 41 goals.

10:47am - 14 Jul 15

He's running a pro team like some people run their fantasy teams.

holy ####.

didn't Dickie Dunn post the same thing in here a week or so ago?

DD = DS?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

nhlnumbers shows Chicago with 1.3 mill in cap space after the Sharp trade. They gave up Sharp's salary, but added Daley's and Garbutt's.

that's the point.

instead of taking back Daley's $3.3mm cap hit, they could have tried to deal Sharp for practically nothing just to get his deal off the books and free up $5.9MM in cap space.

Instead they took back $4.2MM from Daley and Garbutt and gave up their top defense prospect. That left them no room to keep Oduya, and could make it tough to keep Kruger even.

Maybe they couldn't get any takers for Sharp's contract without taking back a contract in return and they decided Daley was the best of the options available. Tough to say without more inside info. Also sounds like Dallas pushed hard for Johns as part of the deal and Bowman caved. I'm guessing he didn't have as many teams interested in the Sharp contract as we might think so he had to figure out another plan. Daley is a decent option but losing Johns might suck for them. This all makes signing Seabrook to an extension a huge priority.

 

[Hawks64]

nhlnumbers shows Chicago with 1.3 mill in cap space after the Sharp trade. They gave up Sharp's salary, but added Daley's and Garbutt's.

that's the point.

instead of taking back Daley's $3.3mm cap hit, they could have tried to deal Sharp for practically nothing just to get his deal off the books and free up $5.9MM in cap space.

Instead they took back $4.2MM from Daley and Garbutt and gave up their top defense prospect. That left them no room to keep Oduya, and could make it tough to keep Kruger even.

Maybe they couldn't get any takers for Sharp's contract without taking back a contract in return and they decided Daley was the best of the options available. Tough to say without more inside info. Also sounds like Dallas pushed hard for Johns as part of the deal and Bowman caved. I'm guessing he didn't have as many teams interested in the Sharp contract as we might think.

This. Stan has put together 2 cup winning teams now (yes it's debatable but was still GM) and made some moves at the TDL that helped immensely last season. However, this move confuses me since Oduya >>> Daley if Oduya really was willing to sign for roughly his same deal. I do find it hard to believe that teams wouldn't be willing to give a pick or prospect for Sharp, but what do I know...I'm just a fan.

 

[Christo]

nhlnumbers shows Chicago with 1.3 mill in cap space after the Sharp trade. They gave up Sharp's salary, but added Daley's and Garbutt's.

that's the point.

instead of taking back Daley's $3.3mm cap hit, they could have tried to deal Sharp for practically nothing just to get his deal off the books and free up $5.9MM in cap space.

Instead they took back $4.2MM from Daley and Garbutt and gave up their top defense prospect. That left them no room to keep Oduya, and could make it tough to keep Kruger even.

Maybe they couldn't get any takers for Sharp's contract without taking back a contract in return and they decided Daley was the best of the options available. Tough to say without more inside info. Also sounds like Dallas pushed hard for Johns as part of the deal and Bowman caved. I'm guessing he didn't have as many teams interested in the Sharp contract as we might think.

This. Stan has put together 2 cup winning teams now (yes it's debatable but was still GM) and made some moves at the TDL that helped immensely last season. However, this move confuses me since Oduya >>> Daley if Oduya really was willing to sign for roughly his same deal. I do find it hard to believe that teams wouldn't be willing to give a pick or prospect for Sharp, but what do I know...I'm just a fan.

Don't we have to start from the position that Sharp had to go no matter what? And other teams are dealing with cap issues too. So teams were going to take advantage of that. It's hard to envision any trade of Sharp where Hawks fans were going to be too happy with it on its face.

 

[Hawks64]

nhlnumbers shows Chicago with 1.3 mill in cap space after the Sharp trade. They gave up Sharp's salary, but added Daley's and Garbutt's.

that's the point.

instead of taking back Daley's $3.3mm cap hit, they could have tried to deal Sharp for practically nothing just to get his deal off the books and free up $5.9MM in cap space.

Instead they took back $4.2MM from Daley and Garbutt and gave up their top defense prospect. That left them no room to keep Oduya, and could make it tough to keep Kruger even.

Maybe they couldn't get any takers for Sharp's contract without taking back a contract in return and they decided Daley was the best of the options available. Tough to say without more inside info. Also sounds like Dallas pushed hard for Johns as part of the deal and Bowman caved. I'm guessing he didn't have as many teams interested in the Sharp contract as we might think.

This. Stan has put together 2 cup winning teams now (yes it's debatable but was still GM) and made some moves at the TDL that helped immensely last season. However, this move confuses me since Oduya >>> Daley if Oduya really was willing to sign for roughly his same deal. I do find it hard to believe that teams wouldn't be willing to give a pick or prospect for Sharp, but what do I know...I'm just a fan.

Don't we have to start from the position that Sharp had to go no matter what? And other teams are dealing with cap issues too. So teams were going to take advantage of that. It's hard to envision any trade of Sharp where Hawks fans were going to be too happy with it on its face.

Sure and I understand Stan has to try and get some value but man just take a 2nd, 3rd or whatever and call it a day. You get cap space and they get Sharp.

 

[Bill Brasky]

Not sure what everyone is bashing Don Sweeney for, this guy has it all figured out:

@Bruins_Stats: This morning on the radio Don Sweeney said it's as simple as Hamilton+Lucic+Smith = 41 goals, Beleskey+Hayes = 41 goals.

10:47am - 14 Jul 15

He's running a pro team like some people run their fantasy teams.

holy ####.

didn't Dickie Dunn post the same thing in here a week or so ago?

DD = DS?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Blackout Dallas ‏@BlackoutDallas

Apparently Stars have a 2 or 3 year deal worth $4.5 million per on the table for Oduya. Buffalo has a 3 year, $5 million per on the table.

Oduya confirmed to be leaving Chicago: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/ct-blackhawks-johnny-oduya-20150714-story.html

 

[Bill Brasky]

take the Buffalo deal!

 

[tri-man 47]

Blackout Dallas ‏@BlackoutDallas

Apparently Stars have a 2 or 3 year deal worth $4.5 million per on the table for Oduya. Buffalo has a 3 year, $5 million per on the table.

Oduya confirmed to be leaving Chicago: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/ct-blackhawks-johnny-oduya-20150714-story.html

Yeah, the numbers just wouldn't allow the Hawks to keep Oduya. Now the issue is whether they can move Bickell in order to keep Kruger. :fingerscrossed:

 

[Hawks64]

Blackout Dallas ‏@BlackoutDallas

Apparently Stars have a 2 or 3 year deal worth $4.5 million per on the table for Oduya. Buffalo has a 3 year, $5 million per on the table.

Oduya confirmed to be leaving Chicago: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/ct-blackhawks-johnny-oduya-20150714-story.html

Yeah, the numbers just wouldn't allow the Hawks to keep Oduya. Now the issue is whether they can move Bickell in order to keep Kruger. :fingerscrossed:

Now way Bickell moves without a prospect or two attached or Shaw. Not a fan of either. I have heard rumors that he may wind up on LTIR with the vertigo he's had and his knee issues.

 

[Christo]

Blackout Dallas ‏@BlackoutDallas

Apparently Stars have a 2 or 3 year deal worth $4.5 million per on the table for Oduya. Buffalo has a 3 year, $5 million per on the table.

Oduya confirmed to be leaving Chicago: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/ct-blackhawks-johnny-oduya-20150714-story.html

Yeah, the numbers just wouldn't allow the Hawks to keep Oduya. Now the issue is whether they can move Bickell in order to keep Kruger. :fingerscrossed:

Now way Bickell moves without a prospect or two attached or Shaw. Not a fan of either. I have heard rumors that he may wind up on LTIR with the vertigo he's had and his knee issues.

Dammit, I'm not giving up Shaw!

 

[Statcruncher]

Blackout Dallas ‏@BlackoutDallas

Apparently Stars have a 2 or 3 year deal worth $4.5 million per on the table for Oduya. Buffalo has a 3 year, $5 million per on the table.

Oduya confirmed to be leaving Chicago: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/ct-blackhawks-johnny-oduya-20150714-story.html

This sucks.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Goals scored last season:

Lucic (18) + Soderberg (13) + Hamilton (10) = 41

Beleskey (22) + Hayes (19) = 41

Don, I just want you to know we are all very happy with the job you're doing so far up in Boston.

 

[Billy Bats]

Nice find Rud.

Erhoff is still out there Hawkees, maybe he takes another cheap gamble on himself since his first bet didn't go so well.

 

[northern exposure]

nhlnumbers shows Chicago with 1.3 mill in cap space after the Sharp trade. They gave up Sharp's salary, but added Daley's and Garbutt's.

that's the point.instead of taking back Daley's $3.3mm cap hit, they could have tried to deal Sharp for practically nothing just to get his deal off the books and free up $5.9MM in cap space.

Instead they took back $4.2MM from Daley and Garbutt and gave up their top defense prospect. That left them no room to keep Oduya, and could make it tough to keep Kruger even.

Maybe they couldn't get any takers for Sharp's contract without taking back a contract in return and they decided Daley was the best of the options available. Tough to say without more inside info. Also sounds like Dallas pushed hard for Johns as part of the deal and Bowman caved. I'm guessing he didn't have as many teams interested in the Sharp contract as we might think so he had to figure out another plan. Daley is a decent option but losing Johns might suck for them. This all makes signing Seabrook to an extension a huge priority.

My mistake, I thought Hawks64 was disputing how much cap space the Hawks had after the Sharp trade. We are all in agreement here that Bowman's biggest need was to create cap space to bring back Oduya and Kruger. The Sharp trade did not help him one bit to achieve this goal.I keep hearing rumors that Bowman is going to back himself into a corner and end up having to deal Seabrook because he can't afford to keep him after next season. I can't see anyway they can deal Crawford and his $6 mill cap hit after he won a second SC with them.

 

[Hawks64]

nhlnumbers shows Chicago with 1.3 mill in cap space after the Sharp trade. They gave up Sharp's salary, but added Daley's and Garbutt's.

that's the point.instead of taking back Daley's $3.3mm cap hit, they could have tried to deal Sharp for practically nothing just to get his deal off the books and free up $5.9MM in cap space.

Instead they took back $4.2MM from Daley and Garbutt and gave up their top defense prospect. That left them no room to keep Oduya, and could make it tough to keep Kruger even.

Maybe they couldn't get any takers for Sharp's contract without taking back a contract in return and they decided Daley was the best of the options available. Tough to say without more inside info. Also sounds like Dallas pushed hard for Johns as part of the deal and Bowman caved. I'm guessing he didn't have as many teams interested in the Sharp contract as we might think so he had to figure out another plan. Daley is a decent option but losing Johns might suck for them. This all makes signing Seabrook to an extension a huge priority.

My mistake, I thought Hawks64 was disputing how much cap space the Hawks had after the Sharp trade. We are all in agreement here that Bowman's biggest need was to create cap space to bring back Oduya and Kruger. The Sharp trade did not help him one bit to achieve this goal.I keep hearing rumors that Bowman is going to back himself into a corner and end up having to deal Seabrook because he can't afford to keep him after next season. I can't see anyway they can deal Crawford and his $6 mill cap hit after he won a second SC with them.

IMO Crawford will go before Seabrook. Seabrook is a leader on that team and should have been wearing the A since 2011, he'll get it next season. And Bowman has put himself in a very bad spot going forward, not much cap available and the D depth is very lacking in the NHL and AHL now.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

Goals scored last season:

Lucic (18) + Soderberg (13) + Hamilton (10) = 41

Beleskey (22) + Hayes (19) = 41

Don, I just want you to know we are all very happy with the job you're doing so far up in Boston.

Zuckerberg's making billions running Facebook, and I'm running the Bruins. Just a coupla Harvard guys.

 

[tom22406]

I hope Brasky has some tissues after seeing this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI5whcfXljg

The celebration after was almost as good.

 

[Christo]

Oduya to the Stars :(

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

2 years, $7.5MM? He turned down $15MM? wow (if true)

 

[Statcruncher]

Really seems like the Stars took the Blackhawks to the woodshed there.

 

[Statcruncher]

2 years, $7.5MM? He turned down $15MM? wow (if true)

Texas doesn't have a state income tax. And the other place was Buffalo.

 

[chet]

HFS

Dallas worked Chicago. Daley instead of JO and at more $$? Wow. And the Hawks get Garbutt as well. He's garbage.

 

[chet]

Stan has egg on his face after the Sharp deal.

 

[Bill Brasky]

I hope Brasky has some tissues after seeing this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI5whcfXljg

The celebration after was almost as good.

he can toe drag a stick on the ice. I can barely contain myself.

Tuch is a nice prospect but I'll save the tissues.

 

[Bill Brasky]

HFS

Dallas worked Chicago. Daley instead of JO and at more $$? Wow. And the Hawks get Garbutt as well. He's garbage.

Garbutt is a really good checker, but those guys are still a dime a dozen.

deal worked out pretty terribly for them. should have just took a 1st and Garbutt and kept Oduya.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

2 years, $7.5MM? He turned down $15MM? wow (if true)

Texas doesn't have a state income tax. And the other place was Buffalo.

an extra $1.25MM/year and a 3rd year guaranteed for a 33yo player is a lot to turn down.

Buffalo gave you Patrick Kane. show some respect.

 

[Statcruncher]

2 years, $7.5MM? He turned down $15MM? wow (if true)

Texas doesn't have a state income tax. And the other place was Buffalo.

an extra $1.25MM/year and a 3rd year guaranteed for a 33yo player is a lot to turn down.

Buffalo gave you Patrick Kane. show some respect.

Not meant as a knock on the Sabres. More of a city of Buffalo versus Dallas thing.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

2 years, $7.5MM? He turned down $15MM? wow (if true)

Texas doesn't have a state income tax. And the other place was Buffalo.

an extra $1.25MM/year and a 3rd year guaranteed for a 33yo player is a lot to turn down.

Buffalo gave you Patrick Kane. show some respect.

Not meant as a knock on the Sabres. More of a city of Buffalo versus Dallas thing.

he's from Sweden

and wanted to stay in Chicago

 

[tom22406]

NBC Sports ‏@NBCSports

Ryan Kesler just signed a six-year extension with the #Ducks for a reported $41.25 million.

 

[Bill Brasky]

NBC Sports ‏@NBCSports

Ryan Kesler just signed a six-year extension with the #Ducks for a reported $41.25 million.

he's no Bonino

 

[chet]

I thought Daley's cap hit was 4.3MM--is that wrong? Someone from the Hawks board is saying it's 3.3MM.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

I thought Daley's cap hit was 4.3MM--is that wrong? Someone from the Hawks board is saying it's 3.3MM.

its 3.3

Garbutt adds 900k

 

[Zegras11]

Dallas Hawks

 

[Hawks64]

Dallas Hawks

Hawks now have two affiliate NHL teams, the Dallas Hawks and the Florida Hawks.

 

[chet]

I thought Daley's cap hit was 4.3MM--is that wrong? Someone from the Hawks board is saying it's 3.3MM.

its 3.3

Garbutt adds 900k

thx

 

[tri-man 47]

Dallas Hawks

Hawks now have two affiliate NHL teams, the Dallas Hawks and the Florida Hawks.

Then again, the Hawks have three recent Stanley Cups and the core players in place to challenge for more.

 

[Hawks64]

Dallas Hawks

Hawks now have two affiliate NHL teams, the Dallas Hawks and the Florida Hawks.

Then again, the Hawks have three recent Stanley Cups and the core players in place to challenge for more.

Yep, sucks that the cap causes this to happen though.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 2h2 hours ago

EDM and Schultz settle one year at $3.9M

 

[Statcruncher]

Dallas Hawks

Hawks now have two affiliate NHL teams, the Dallas Hawks and the Florida Hawks.

Then again, the Hawks have three recent Stanley Cups and the core players in place to challenge for more.

Yep, sucks that the cap causes this to happen though.

The league would suck a lot more if there were no cap though.

 

[Bill Brasky]

Dallas Hawks

Hawks now have two affiliate NHL teams, the Dallas Hawks and the Florida Hawks.

Then again, the Hawks have three recent Stanley Cups and the core players in place to challenge for more.

Yep, sucks that the cap causes this to happen though.

this rhetoric is tiresome. no cap opens up other possibilities as well. who is to say that they'd be able to have their core locked up at this point if some team came and dropped a mega deal to steal one or more of them? and it's not like they're giving these guys away unless Stan chooses to like with Sharp. other than Buff and Ladd, what significant pieces have they been forced to deal until this year, and both those guys were bit players on those Hawks teams. hell, you could argue that until recently they've been at an advantage with the league structure as the cap constrains other teams while many players were on under market deals because of restricted status as they piled up picks/prospects from a decade of ####.you got 3 cups and the core locked in their prime, stop whining and ####.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

signing Bickell to a $4MM/year deal or Crawford to a $6MM/year deal seem like bigger issues than than the cap itself.

cap and CBA punishes teams for bad contracts. as it should. otherwise, a team like Toronto could just go out and buy an All Star lineup.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

article on the Flames cap situation and Giordano's contract:

http://www.matchsticksandgasoline.com/2015/7/14/8956917/treading-lightly-mark-giordanos-new-contract