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not sure which Taylor (Fred or jason) had the same thing done and played 2 weeks later. Its basically a surgeical wound now. Im sure it hurts. NYG fighting for their playoff lifes he will play if he can
good thing he doesn't play for Cleveland.....
I would be happy for him to be at full str week 15/16, getting S. Smith back would help too.
It was Jason Taylor (2008): http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/s...as-fairly-rare/Also, Brian Urlacher (2004): http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-35...y-Urlacher.html
sorry, I couldn't help myself.
Sounds promising! :fingercrossed:
You're probably right but it does sound like it's good news overall if they're even thinking about bringing him back week 14.For those that may need him week 15, 16 or 17, it sounds promising to me. I have him in 3 leagues, I just hope i can survive that long to use him.
I'm not counting on Nicks at all this season, but as I understand what I've read about the procedure, not closing the wound is unusual. I highly doubt Nicks would say he was planning on resuming running next week with an open wound. Just speculating of course since I have no firsthand knowledge, but they probably caught the condition early enough so that the wound was stitched up after the procedure and hasn't presented any problems since. Hence Nick's apparent optimism about an early return.
In the one league I have him, our playoffs are 15-17, so having him 100% for those weeks would be great and that is my keeper league, so knowing he is actually healthy for the future is also a good thing.
thanks doc
Incorrect. Read the Jason Taylor article posted earlier in this thread. They closed his incision immediately because the swelling went down right away ("bled out" according to the article). There are varying degrees of this injury.Of course, having gone through several major procedures myself related to sports injuries, I am always skeptical that anyone can be back performing at a high level in short order. But, these guys are freaks of nature that receive world class medical treatment, so, who knows.
I had the same surgery on my lower wrist in 2002. I cut a tendon in my hand and got compartment syndrome from an infection. They left a 4 inch incision wide open. Took weeks to heal. Took another couple of weeks to get full range of motion back and that was my wrist and hand. Lower leg would have to worse due to the pressure of running and cutting.Beleive me..I need Nicks bad, I drafted him in three leagues. Just not counting on him.
your wrist hurt in the first place? at least for nicks he didnt feel anything was all that wrong besides some typical swelling.....and then next thing he knows after an mri they tell him he needs surgery....yea i'm trying to be optimistic.Da Guru said:
Agreed, didn't they say 14 earlier this week?
This is week 14, btw.
Exactly. If he's at full speed for weeks 15-17, that's great for those who stuck with him. Even better for those with a week 15 bye because they'll be able to see how he looks.
Someone needs to tell Nicks and the Giants that there are no stiches to remove.In related news...Guru, did you get that other owner to dro Nicks or trade him to you? If so, bravo!
That's awesome news!
To think he could be playing next Sunday. I am glad I hung on to him. I'd be happy if he wants to take it easy and wait till week 15. I think all Nicks owners that have the playoffs secure would like that scenario even better. Still, if he does come back Dec 12, it will be a nice dress rehearsal for the playoffs.
yep this would be ideal situation. our playoffs are only weeks 15 and 16. so i'd love to see how he does week 14. I'd be very hesitant to start him in the playoffs for his first game back.
That would be perfect. My playoffs where I have him start week 15, so this all sounds like good news. If he can be game ready by week 14, that gives him a lot more potential to be normal come week 15. Even if I did have playoffs week 14, not sure I would start him. I don't recall too many huge fantasy games from WRs after a few weeks of layoff, not just a one week ankle scratch, but a few weeks of little or no practice.
How do you lose soemthing you never really had?
If I'm in charge at Rotoworld, and the Giants have officially stated the absence would be at least 3 weeks, and so far Nicks has still not yet been cleared to run, then I'd be saying Week 15 is the likely return, too. If I'm in your shoes, I would not be counting on much out of Nicks even if he does play in Week 14. How can you? Of course, it COULD happen, but the odds of him playing at all, let alone playing a majority of snaps, are pretty low, and even seeing a few dozen snaps does not mean Nicks will be productive.I'm guessing you know all this, so I'm sure you're getting a contingency plan in place.
Your wrist was already infected causing the compartment syndrome, that is why they left an open wound, otherwise it would just get reinfected. Nicks's compartment syndrome was not due to infection. I believe he had a leg contusion and the swelling caused it, once they decompress the compartment it can be closed.
Taking a wait and see approach. I've got a contingency plan but it stinks (Obamanu). Nicks could probably do more with less than my contingency plan.The Jerk said:
I've posted links to two articles earlier in this thread concerning Brian Urlacher and Jason Taylor, so I'm well aware that a player can come back in three weeks time (i.e., miss only two games) to play. But those two instances don't guarantee Nicks will be out there this week. Maybe the Giants will be more conservative than the Bears and Redskins. Maybe the specific site of the wound requires slightly more patience and/or could be more likely to be reopened due to the specific cuts made by a receiver vs. a defensive player. Perhaps most importantly for fantasy purposes, there is a lot of uncertainly concerning how many plays will Nicks be out there. By the way, does anyone know how many plays Urlacher and Taylor missed in their comeback games? Did they play all or most of the snaps? The Giants could decide to limit his packages (to avoid long sprints, cutting, whatever) in his first game back.Until (and possibly even after) we here something definitive from the Giants, there are a lot of maybes and questions concerning Nicks. While he could play and produce, I don't think it's being overly negative to be wary of dependence on #88 in Week 14.
If he gets in one or more days of full practice and is removed from the injury report, I don't see how you can NOT put him into your starting lineup.If, on the other hand, he misses all practices and is declared probable or it's announced that he will be starting, then I would be hesitant.
Ditto. A strong receiving corps was my chance at winning in the $ league where I own him. If I go down, I'll go down with the studs in my lineup instead of watching Nicks go for 85 and 2 TDs on my bench while I played waiver flavor of the week. Now if I had 4 good options, I'd probably take the conservative route.
You're probably right Dork. I'll have to see what they say during the week in his he's feeling etc....I don't mind playing him if the news surrounding him is good. If I get that questionable feeling, like nodody is sure, that there's still pain when doing this or that, then I may go another route.I have him in several leagues, one where I could use him this week and two where I don't really need him until week 15, and one where we play 17 weeks and I've earned a bye and don't need him till week 16.I would like to see him out there as soon as possible though. If you look at S. Rice, he took a week to kind of get his feet wet and then went off.
