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[Breesisdaman]

News:

The Houston Chronicle reports that Texans RB Steve Slaton is unlikely to play at Jacksonville in Week 13 due to a neck injury that has gotten worse this week. Specifically, the paper reports that Slaton is suffering numbness in his arms related to a previously undisclosed shoulder injury. "It's something he has been dealing with for awhile but it's gotten worse in the last 24 hours," head coach Gary Kubiak said. Chris Brown is expected to start and see significant reps against the Jaguars on Sunday; Ryan Moats may also contribute.

Sleeper value this week? I am debating between him and Cartright if for some reason SJax is unable to go this week. Jacksonville is not a pushover as far as the running defense is concerned but I do think Houston will move the ball well and get Brown around the goal line a few times. Thoughts? Anyone else looking at C Brown?

 

[Fiddles]

and 2 minutes after you start this thread someone bumps my auction bid

thanks buddy

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I scooped him up in a TD heavy league. J.I.C he seems to be getting the goalline love anyway

 

[PosterNutBag]

here is the talk about Chris Brown ... still on page one

 

[gianmarco]

and 2 minutes after you start this thread someone bumps my auction bidthanks buddy

Next time, just start another thread first to let us know that they're is someone you're bidding on so we won't do it again in the future.....

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I picked him up early this morning ahead of the news. Loved his schedule and Slaton was never a lock to keep his job anyway. Brown had 5.1 ypc last gm with 3 catches each of last 2 games in platoon duty.

It was news to me that Slaton was downgraded to out. I think Brown instantly becomes a low end RB #2. I was debating having to start M. Bell or Buckhalter, now my choice is easy.

 

[dwashington]

I picked him up early this morning ahead of the news. Loved his schedule and Slaton was never a lock to keep his job anyway. Brown had 5.1 ypc last gm with 3 catches each of last 2 games in platoon duty.

It was news to me that Slaton was downgraded to out. I think Brown instantly becomes a low end RB #2. I was debating having to start M. Bell or Buckhalter, now my choice is easy.

Is that official?

 

[PosterNutBag]

I picked him up early this morning ahead of the news. Loved his schedule and Slaton was never a lock to keep his job anyway. Brown had 5.1 ypc last gm with 3 catches each of last 2 games in platoon duty.

It was news to me that Slaton was downgraded to out. I think Brown instantly becomes a low end RB #2. I was debating having to start M. Bell or Buckhalter, now my choice is easy.

Is that official?

no ... he is a gametime decision ... but Brown was named the week 13 starter today and it doesn't look good for Slaton at this point to be active this week

 

[MNTom]

and 2 minutes after you start this thread someone bumps my auction bid

thanks buddy

There has been a thread on here since the info came out:http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=509458

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I picked him up early this morning ahead of the news. Loved his schedule and Slaton was never a lock to keep his job anyway. Brown had 5.1 ypc last gm with 3 catches each of last 2 games in platoon duty.

It was news to me that Slaton was downgraded to out. I think Brown instantly becomes a low end RB #2. I was debating having to start M. Bell or Buckhalter, now my choice is easy.

Is that official?

no ... he is a gametime decision ... but Brown was named the week 13 starter today and it doesn't look good for Slaton at this point to be active this week

Sorry, I had some premature info on Slaton. What I read indicated he was being held out for precautionary reasons. The numbness that he was feelling was supposed to be the overriding factor. I recognize the info on GTD as correct.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Regarding Slaton, Neck/shoulder injuries with possible nerve damage are serious business. Think Priest Holmes prior to his decision to hang em up last season.

Houston is a high powered offense and Kubiac for some reason always liked Chris Brown even when Slaton was the man. He was always the TD "vulture".

If it wasn't for Brown's injuries, Slaton may never have had the chance to be the starter.

As far as Brown's value, he gets the Rams in week 15.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Regarding Slaton, Neck/shoulder injuries with possible nerve damage are serious business. Think Priest Holmes prior to his decision to hang em up last season. Houston is a high powered offense and Kubiac for some reason always liked Chris Brown even when Slaton was the man. He was always the TD "vulture".If it wasn't for Brown's injuries, Slaton may never have had the chance to be the starter.As far as Brown's value, he gets the Rams in week 15.

I picked up Chris Brown, I'm in desperation mode as I have Turner out, Forsett is dinged and not starting for me, Ronnie Brown out, and now Scott out from the Bengals.I don't love the matchup, but Jax's offense hasn't been doing much either lately so at least Houston won't have to feel like they have to open up the flood gates to keep up or play from behind. There should be plenty of opportunities to run the ball and he could end up with 80 yards and a TD, I'm hoping anyway.BTW, I keep reading in various posts that Brown has this easy run schedule come playoff time. There's no gaurantee or something remotely close to that that Brown is now the starter come week 15. Who knows, Slaton could be back in week 14. With guys like Chris Brown, it's 1 week at a time at best. If he shows up and has a solid game, then there may be some promise for the remainer of the season but that's a big if, I certainly could use him this week though.

 

[Banger]

not a Brown fan at all but he should be a decent spot start this week. I'd expect him to get 15+ carries, a couple catches and whatever goal line work there is.

 

[Futz]

While Brown looks like the obvious play, I wouldn't sleep on Moats. He'll get some touches.

I've already picked up Brown, and I've got a waiver claim in for Moats as we speak in case Slaton's injury turns for the worse. Nerve damage is treated with oven gloves just like concussions now a days. Slaton could be finished for awhile if not the fantasy year.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

While Brown looks like the obvious play, I wouldn't sleep on Moats. He'll get some touches.

I've already picked up Brown, and I've got a waiver claim in for Moats as we speak in case Slaton's injury turns for the worse. Nerve damage is treated with oven gloves just like concussions now a days. Slaton could be finished for awhile if not the fantasy year.

Slaton finished for the year is what I was thinking, I see someone else is thinking the same thing. I think he may be finished for his career ala Priest Holmes.

 

[rjv]

I have maclin as my flex in a ppr league, should I grab Brown for flex instead?

 

[PosterNutBag]

I have maclin as my flex in a ppr league, should I grab Brown for flex instead?

you never know who has the better week since TD opportunities sometimes come in bunches for RBs, but Maclin seems like the better play this week to me (assuming Jackson is out for Philly)

 

[rjv]

I have maclin as my flex in a ppr league, should I grab Brown for flex instead?

you never know who has the better week since TD opportunities sometimes come in bunches for RBs, but Maclin seems like the better play this week to me (assuming Jackson is out for Philly)

yeah true. D Jax is out so Maclin could have a huge day I hope.

 

[greenline]

Not that anyone cares but with DeSean Jackson and Slaton out, I'll be starting Kevin Walter and Chris Brown with Schaub at QB. I'm 5-7 with an outside shot (getting more outside with every Texan I start) of making the playoffs.

SAVE ME GARY KUBIAK

 

[jimmy b]

Not that anyone cares but with DeSean Jackson and Slaton out, I'll be starting Kevin Walter and Chris Brown with Schaub at QB. I'm 5-7 with an outside shot (getting more outside with every Texan I start) of making the playoffs. SAVE ME GARY KUBIAK

Thanks, I'll Alert the Media.

 

[greenline]

Not that anyone cares but with DeSean Jackson and Slaton out, I'll be starting Kevin Walter and Chris Brown with Schaub at QB. I'm 5-7 with an outside shot (getting more outside with every Texan I start) of making the playoffs. SAVE ME GARY KUBIAK

Thanks, I'll Alert the Media.

That's not going to help. Try alerting the Jags. TIA.

 

[Futz]

While Brown looks like the obvious play, I wouldn't sleep on Moats. He'll get some touches.

I've already picked up Brown, and I've got a waiver claim in for Moats as we speak in case Slaton's injury turns for the worse. Nerve damage is treated with oven gloves just like concussions now a days. Slaton could be finished for awhile if not the fantasy year.

Well, at least there's a little more clairity in the backfield with Slaton being placed on IR. I'm rolling with Moats though because it seems he always gets more touches when he and Brown are sharing the backfield.

 

[Chaka]

While Brown looks like the obvious play, I wouldn't sleep on Moats. He'll get some touches.

I've already picked up Brown, and I've got a waiver claim in for Moats as we speak in case Slaton's injury turns for the worse. Nerve damage is treated with oven gloves just like concussions now a days. Slaton could be finished for awhile if not the fantasy year.

Well, at least there's a little more clairity in the backfield with Slaton being placed on IR. I'm rolling with Moats though because it seems he always gets more touches when he and Brown are sharing the backfield.

After that unconscionable INT last week on the option play I believe Brown might have the lowest football IQ of any RB in the league. Kubiak should be fired if Brown is on the field for even one play (heck he should probably be fired for not cutting Brown on Sunday night).Roll the dice on Moats going forward.

 

[Futz]

While Brown looks like the obvious play, I wouldn't sleep on Moats. He'll get some touches.

I've already picked up Brown, and I've got a waiver claim in for Moats as we speak in case Slaton's injury turns for the worse. Nerve damage is treated with oven gloves just like concussions now a days. Slaton could be finished for awhile if not the fantasy year.

Well, at least there's a little more clairity in the backfield with Slaton being placed on IR. I'm rolling with Moats though because it seems he always gets more touches when he and Brown are sharing the backfield.

After that unconscionable INT last week on the option play I believe Brown might have the lowest football IQ of any RB in the league. Kubiak should be fired if Brown is on the field for even one play (heck he should probably be fired for not cutting Brown on Sunday night).Roll the dice on Moats going forward.

Hard to hold Brown accountable for the play (although I didn't visually see it). Kubiak put him in a position to fail at a real unoppurtune time. If Kubiak doesn't win out, he's toast. I agree though, Moats is the more viable option. Less of a chance to bust completely IMO.

 

[Chaka]

While Brown looks like the obvious play, I wouldn't sleep on Moats. He'll get some touches.

I've already picked up Brown, and I've got a waiver claim in for Moats as we speak in case Slaton's injury turns for the worse. Nerve damage is treated with oven gloves just like concussions now a days. Slaton could be finished for awhile if not the fantasy year.

Well, at least there's a little more clairity in the backfield with Slaton being placed on IR. I'm rolling with Moats though because it seems he always gets more touches when he and Brown are sharing the backfield.

After that unconscionable INT last week on the option play I believe Brown might have the lowest football IQ of any RB in the league. Kubiak should be fired if Brown is on the field for even one play (heck he should probably be fired for not cutting Brown on Sunday night).Roll the dice on Moats going forward.

Hard to hold Brown accountable for the play (although I didn't visually see it). Kubiak put him in a position to fail at a real unoppurtune time. If Kubiak doesn't win out, he's toast. I agree though, Moats is the more viable option. Less of a chance to bust completely IMO.

1:58 Thoughts?

 

[thevidon]

While Brown looks like the obvious play, I wouldn't sleep on Moats. He'll get some touches.

I've already picked up Brown, and I've got a waiver claim in for Moats as we speak in case Slaton's injury turns for the worse. Nerve damage is treated with oven gloves just like concussions now a days. Slaton could be finished for awhile if not the fantasy year.

Well, at least there's a little more clairity in the backfield with Slaton being placed on IR. I'm rolling with Moats though because it seems he always gets more touches when he and Brown are sharing the backfield.

After that unconscionable INT last week on the option play I believe Brown might have the lowest football IQ of any RB in the league. Kubiak should be fired if Brown is on the field for even one play (heck he should probably be fired for not cutting Brown on Sunday night).Roll the dice on Moats going forward.

Hard to hold Brown accountable for the play (although I didn't visually see it). Kubiak put him in a position to fail at a real unoppurtune time. If Kubiak doesn't win out, he's toast. I agree though, Moats is the more viable option. Less of a chance to bust completely IMO.

1:58 Thoughts?

Arian Foster will emerge from this mess as the HOU back to own. Just a hunch.

 

[Chaka]

Arian Foster will emerge from this mess as the HOU back to own. Just a hunch.

Until he does I think Moats is the safer play. If it turns out to be Brown then Kubiak should be fired.

 

[TommyGilmore]

Arian Foster will emerge from this mess as the HOU back to own. Just a hunch.

Everybody loves the unknown backup.

 

[thevidon]

Arian Foster will emerge from this mess as the HOU back to own. Just a hunch.

Everybody loves the unknown backup.

I love RB's who run like Foster and are stepping into a situation where the best back in front of them is Steve Slaton.

 

[Lobary]

Arian Foster will emerge from this mess as the HOU back to own. Just a hunch.

I hope you're right but that is not Kubiak's M.O. He will stick with Brown and Moats and maybe use Arian Foster once or twice a game, even though he just told Nick Scurfield that Foster will be involved this Sunday.

 

[loose circuits]

any more to this Foster buzz? Does he have a legitimate shot at playing time? at who's expense?

what a mess

 

[duece2626]

Chris Henry

 

[Buckna]

Arian Foster will emerge from this mess as the HOU back to own. Just a hunch.

Everybody loves the unknown backup.

I love RB's who run like Foster and are stepping into a situation where the best back in front of them is Steve Slaton.

I don't love undrafted FA's who couldn't beat out Chris Brown or Ryan Moats or get off the practice squad until Slaton's injury got serious.

 

[Nate]

Arian Foster will emerge from this mess as the HOU back to own. Just a hunch.

Everybody loves the unknown backup.

I love RB's who run like Foster and are stepping into a situation where the best back in front of them is Steve Slaton.

I don't love undrafted FA's who couldn't beat out Chris Brown or Ryan Moats or get off the practice squad until Slaton's injury got serious.

Any active RB is one good half away from a starting job at this point.

 

[slawman]

Moats might be the guy to have in Houston.

 

[wiersface]

#### chris brown he runs falling over

 

[lyon812]

From Rotoworld:

Texans coach Gary Kubiak said he'd like RB Arian Foster to "touch the ball five times and give me a reason for him to touch it 10."

Chris Brown will start, but this is shaping up to be some form of a three-headed committee. Ryan Moats and Foster will share time behind Brown and will likely get some series to themselves. Brown figures to get all the goal-line work, although Foster does have good size (6'1/215). Foster should be owned, but leave him benched while Kubiak sorts this out.

Source: Houston Chronicle

 

[pollardsvision]

From Rotoworld:Texans coach Gary Kubiak said he'd like RB Arian Foster to "touch the ball five times and give me a reason for him to touch it 10."Chris Brown will start, but this is shaping up to be some form of a three-headed committee. Ryan Moats and Foster will share time behind Brown and will likely get some series to themselves. Brown figures to get all the goal-line work, although Foster does have good size (6'1/215). Foster should be owned, but leave him benched while Kubiak sorts this out.Source: Houston Chronicle

From the times I've watched HOU this season, I can't imagine Kubiak trusts him too much. He might single-handedly have cost Kubiak his job.If Foster's any good at all, I could envision a purely Moats/Foster timeshare. Moats has looked pretty good in the times I've seen him.

 

[Chaka]

From Rotoworld:Texans coach Gary Kubiak said he'd like RB Arian Foster to "touch the ball five times and give me a reason for him to touch it 10."Chris Brown will start, but this is shaping up to be some form of a three-headed committee. Ryan Moats and Foster will share time behind Brown and will likely get some series to themselves. Brown figures to get all the goal-line work, although Foster does have good size (6'1/215). Foster should be owned, but leave him benched while Kubiak sorts this out.Source: Houston Chronicle

From the times I've watched HOU this season, I can't imagine Kubiak trusts him too much. He might single-handedly have cost Kubiak his job.If Foster's any good at all, I could envision a purely Moats/Foster timeshare. Moats has looked pretty good in the times I've seen him.

He deserves to lose his job if he keeps starting this guy.

 

[PahtyTom]

From Rotoworld:Texans coach Gary Kubiak said he'd like RB Arian Foster to "touch the ball five times and give me a reason for him to touch it 10."Chris Brown will start, but this is shaping up to be some form of a three-headed committee. Ryan Moats and Foster will share time behind Brown and will likely get some series to themselves. Brown figures to get all the goal-line work, although Foster does have good size (6'1/215). Foster should be owned, but leave him benched while Kubiak sorts this out.Source: Houston Chronicle

This is a mess. I thought Moats might be a decent start vs easy defenses weeks 15 and 16, but who knows how this will shake out. Moats is the best pass catcher and has been the most effective runner too, but that doesn't mean much it seems. Chris Brown hasn't been good, but Kubiak has stated that he is the best pass blocker out of the RBs. Foster is a bigger back like Chris Brown, so I'd assume he will take some of his carries away. Bottomline, looks like they will all take most of the value away from each other this year.

 

[Futz]

From Rotoworld:Texans coach Gary Kubiak said he'd like RB Arian Foster to "touch the ball five times and give me a reason for him to touch it 10."Chris Brown will start, but this is shaping up to be some form of a three-headed committee. Ryan Moats and Foster will share time behind Brown and will likely get some series to themselves. Brown figures to get all the goal-line work, although Foster does have good size (6'1/215). Foster should be owned, but leave him benched while Kubiak sorts this out.Source: Houston Chronicle

From the times I've watched HOU this season, I can't imagine Kubiak trusts him too much. He might single-handedly have cost Kubiak his job.If Foster's any good at all, I could envision a purely Moats/Foster timeshare. Moats has looked pretty good in the times I've seen him.

He deserves to lose his job if he keeps starting this guy.

Kubiak is going to lose his job if he doesn't win out and his best chance at RB success is Moats right now. He's shown to be quite effective. Kubiak isn't going to start throwing blind darts with Foster or Henry. He's just preparing them mentally in case they need to play due to injury.When it's been Moats & C.Brown as the "featured" backs, Moats gets more touches. Moats is the conservative 7-8pt play with an outside chance at a TD while Brown is the high risk high reward play. He may get two TDS and some yards or he might get very little of anything.

 

[cr8f]

From Rotoworld:

Texans coach Gary Kubiak said he'd like RB Arian Foster to "touch the ball five times and give me a reason for him to touch it 10."

Chris Brown will start, but this is shaping up to be some form of a three-headed committee. Ryan Moats and Foster will share time behind Brown and will likely get some series to themselves. Brown figures to get all the goal-line work, although Foster does have good size (6'1/215). Foster should be owned, but leave him benched while Kubiak sorts this out.

Source: Houston Chronicle

From the times I've watched HOU this season, I can't imagine Kubiak trusts him too much. He might single-handedly have cost Kubiak his job.If Foster's any good at all, I could envision a purely Moats/Foster timeshare. Moats has looked pretty good in the times I've seen him.

He deserves to lose his job if he keeps starting this guy.

Kubiak is going to lose his job if he doesn't win out and his best chance at RB success is Moats right now. He's shown to be quite effective. Kubiak isn't going to start throwing blind darts with Foster or Henry. He's just preparing them mentally in case they need to play due to injury.When it's been Moats & C.Brown as the "featured" backs, Moats gets more touches. Moats is the conservative 7-8pt play with an outside chance at a TD while Brown is the high risk high reward play. He may get two TDS and some yards or he might get very little of anything.

Effective in one game? I'd like to see what Foster can do.

 

[MrSoup]

#### chris brown he runs falling over

He actually falls into the handoff.

 

[Futz]

From Rotoworld:

Texans coach Gary Kubiak said he'd like RB Arian Foster to "touch the ball five times and give me a reason for him to touch it 10."

Chris Brown will start, but this is shaping up to be some form of a three-headed committee. Ryan Moats and Foster will share time behind Brown and will likely get some series to themselves. Brown figures to get all the goal-line work, although Foster does have good size (6'1/215). Foster should be owned, but leave him benched while Kubiak sorts this out.

Source: Houston Chronicle

From the times I've watched HOU this season, I can't imagine Kubiak trusts him too much. He might single-handedly have cost Kubiak his job.If Foster's any good at all, I could envision a purely Moats/Foster timeshare. Moats has looked pretty good in the times I've seen him.

He deserves to lose his job if he keeps starting this guy.

Kubiak is going to lose his job if he doesn't win out and his best chance at RB success is Moats right now. He's shown to be quite effective. Kubiak isn't going to start throwing blind darts with Foster or Henry. He's just preparing them mentally in case they need to play due to injury.When it's been Moats & C.Brown as the "featured" backs, Moats gets more touches. Moats is the conservative 7-8pt play with an outside chance at a TD while Brown is the high risk high reward play. He may get two TDS and some yards or he might get very little of anything.

Effective in one game? I'd like to see what Foster can do.

I'd say that Moats was effective enough to put this discussion to bed.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

I'd say that Moats was effective enough to put this discussion to bed.

Really? 10 carries for 43 yards, and a fumble? Not exactly impressive.

 

[beavers]

I'd say that Moats was effective enough to put this discussion to bed.

Really? 10 carries for 43 yards, and a fumble? Not exactly impressive.

Didn't Moats score a TD?

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

I'd say that Moats was effective enough to put this discussion to bed.

Really? 10 carries for 43 yards, and a fumble? Not exactly impressive.

Didn't Moats score a TD?

Oh, well then let's get him ready for the Pro Bowl.

 

[beavers]

I'd say that Moats was effective enough to put this discussion to bed.

Really? 10 carries for 43 yards, and a fumble? Not exactly impressive.

Didn't Moats score a TD?

Oh, well then let's get him ready for the Pro Bowl.

No need to get snippy. And I'm not sure why you would leave out the TD? I hope it's not to try to help you prove your point. Chris Brown had 3 carries, 7 yards. It looks like Foster will cut into the playing time of Moats.

 

[Futz]

I'd say that Moats was effective enough to put this discussion to bed.

Really? 10 carries for 43 yards, and a fumble? Not exactly impressive.

Conveniently leaving out the TD helps your argument. But I'd like to also mention:Arian --- 13 for 34 2.6 ypcC.Brown --- 3 for 7 2.3 ypcI think the obvious conclusion from the Houston running game is that the OL is just not very good. However, Moats has been a pretty decent play when it's known that he's part of the mix and he's been the most effective. I'm not claiming that Moats is an upper echelon back. moreso that he's the only true play in the Houston backfield.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

I'd say that Moats was effective enough to put this discussion to bed.

Really? 10 carries for 43 yards, and a fumble? Not exactly impressive.

Didn't Moats score a TD?

Oh, well then let's get him ready for the Pro Bowl.

No need to get snippy. And I'm not sure why you would leave out the TD? I hope it's not to try to help you prove your point. Chris Brown had 3 carries, 7 yards. It looks like Foster will cut into the playing time of Moats.

TD was an honest omission. 10 carries for 43 yds really didn't excite me in a game where it would have been nice to see him hit the century mark. The fumble is just icing on the cake. A guy who isn't uber-talented cannot afford to put the ball on the turf. That said, Foster didn't exactly set the world on fire. LOL at Chris Brown. All the hype about him starting, then he lays a giant egg. Stick a fork in him.