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NY Jet mess! (1 Viewer)

Not a lot of talk about possibly the biggest screw up. Apart from last year Martin was showing the signs of the aging running back he is. At the same time Jordan was performing. Never an attempt to get him the ball more to see if he could outperform the aging Martin. Then, they go ahead and get rid of him, making the Raiders very happy. I was pissed when they did it, and still can't understand the move.

 
Some golden snippets from the Terry Bradaway train wreck press conference:Herm "earned the right to go to KC"Despite Herm talking to KC all year - clearly no tampering - he will not fileSpoke of KC like it was the promised land (since he will end up there in a few years).talked to many execs in the league and all say 4th rder was a great dealHe is doing a great job as GM - took credit for Santana Moss making the Pro BowlTouted Hasslett and Tice as great coaches :bag: I am not making this up! :bag:

 
Some golden snippets from the Terry Bradaway train wreck press conference:

Herm "earned the right to go to KC"

Despite Herm talking to KC all year - clearly no tampering - he will not file

Spoke of KC like it was the promised land (since he will end up there in a few years).

talked to many execs in the league and all say 4th rder was a great deal

He is doing a great job as GM - took credit for Santana Moss making the Pro Bowl

Touted Hasslett and Tice as great coaches

:bag:

I am not making this up!

:bag:
Don't forget that 16 teams haven't drafted Pro Bowls the last 4 years and NE only has one (Seymour).
 
Some golden snippets from the Terry Bradaway train wreck press conference:

Herm "earned the right to go to KC"

Despite Herm talking to KC all year - clearly no tampering - he will not file

Spoke of KC like it was the promised land (since he will end up there in a few years).

talked to many execs in the league and all say 4th rder was a great deal

He is doing a great job as GM - took credit for Santana Moss making the Pro Bowl

Touted Hasslett and Tice as great coaches

:bag:

I am not making this up!

:bag:
Don't forget that 16 teams haven't drafted Pro Bowls the last 4 years and NE only has one (Seymour).
And him giving Jim Haslett credit for three playoff appearances, when he only coached in two playoff games in one year.
 
Some golden snippets from the Terry Bradaway train wreck press conference:

Herm "earned the right to go to KC"

Despite Herm talking to KC all year - clearly no tampering - he will not file

Spoke of KC like it was the promised land (since he will end up there in a few years).

talked to many execs in the league and all say 4th rder was a great deal

He is doing a great job as GM - took credit for Santana Moss making the Pro Bowl

Touted Hasslett and Tice as great coaches

:bag:

I am not making this up!

:bag:
Are you serious?If you are then the Jets are in bigger trouble than I originally thought.

The Jets could have gotten more than a 4th rounder. They had all the leverage. Even if they filed a bogus tampering charge they would have gotten a better draft pick.

 
You got the feeling that Bradaway was scard to death of Peterson - if he filed tampering charges he wouldn't get a Christmas card this year.BTW - Where the F was Woody Johnson??????

 
Some golden snippets from the Terry Bradaway train wreck press conference:

Herm "earned the right to go to KC"

Despite Herm talking to KC all year - clearly no tampering - he will not file

Spoke of KC like it was the promised land (since he will end up there in a few years).

talked to many execs in the league and all say 4th rder was a great deal

He is doing a great job as GM - took credit for Santana Moss making the Pro Bowl

Touted Hasslett and Tice as great coaches

:bag:

I am not making this up!

:bag:
Are you serious?If you are then the Jets are in bigger trouble than I originally thought.

The Jets could have gotten more than a 4th rounder. They had all the leverage. Even if they filed a bogus tampering charge they would have gotten a better draft pick.
I don't know about that. The Jets weren't going to keep Herm -- Woody didn't want him around, and Herm was unhappy with Woody and his contract. The Jets need to replace Herm, and every day they keep him around is a day they can't hire a new coach. They already missed out on Childress, and the sooner they begin the process to find a replacement the better. Getting a 4th rounder is dissapointing, but not more dissapointing than getting a 2nd rounder and a bad coach, or a 2nd rounder and an unhappy front office.
 
You got the feeling that Bradaway was scard to death of Peterson - if he filed tampering charges he wouldn't get a Christmas card this year.

BTW - Where the F was Woody Johnson??????
I got this feeling too, but I thought I was just :tinfoilhat:
 
Some golden snippets from the Terry Bradaway train wreck press conference:

Herm "earned the right to go to KC"

Despite Herm talking to KC all year - clearly no tampering - he will not file

Spoke of KC like it was the promised land (since he will end up there in a few years).

talked to many execs in the league and all say 4th rder was a great deal

He is doing a great job as GM - took credit for Santana Moss making the Pro Bowl

Touted Hasslett and Tice as great coaches

:bag:

I am not making this up!

:bag:
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :yucky: :X

And I used to think Allard Baird was the most inept executive in all of sports...

 
For all the Terry Bradway hate, he put the Jets in a position where most people thought they were SB contenders this year.

 
Joe Namath made a deal with the Devil, and part of that deal included a 100 year drought for the Jets.

 
I don't know about that. The Jets weren't going to keep Herm -- Woody didn't want him around, and Herm was unhappy with Woody and his contract. The Jets need to replace Herm, and every day they keep him around is a day they can't hire a new coach. They already missed out on Childress, and the sooner they begin the process to find a replacement the better. Getting a 4th rounder is dissapointing, but not more dissapointing than getting a 2nd rounder and a bad coach, or a 2nd rounder and an unhappy front office.
If the Jets were to get rid of Herm no matter what, which of the following scenarios represent the smartest business decision?1) Fire him and potentially pay him 2 million dollars per year for the next two years

or

2) Trade him for a pick (any pick).

If the front offices of other clubs believed he was about to be fired - I'd certainly go with #2

 
Some golden snippets from the Terry Bradaway train wreck press conference:

Herm "earned the right to go to KC"

Despite Herm talking to KC all year - clearly no tampering - he will not file

Spoke of KC like it was the promised land (since he will end up there in a few years).

talked to many execs in the league and all say 4th rder was a great deal

He is doing a great job as GM - took credit for Santana Moss making the Pro Bowl

Touted Hasslett and Tice as great coaches

:bag:

I am not making this up!

:bag:
Are you serious?If you are then the Jets are in bigger trouble than I originally thought.

The Jets could have gotten more than a 4th rounder. They had all the leverage. Even if they filed a bogus tampering charge they would have gotten a better draft pick.
I don't know about that. The Jets weren't going to keep Herm -- Woody didn't want him around, and Herm was unhappy with Woody and his contract. The Jets need to replace Herm, and every day they keep him around is a day they can't hire a new coach. They already missed out on Childress, and the sooner they begin the process to find a replacement the better. Getting a 4th rounder is dissapointing, but not more dissapointing than getting a 2nd rounder and a bad coach, or a 2nd rounder and an unhappy front office.
The Jets had Herm under contract for the next 2 years. The Chiefs REALLY wanted him. How many dinners has Herm had with KC this year. "IF" there was no connection between the Jets and KC I would bet that tampering charges would have been filed.KC got a friendly discount and the coach they wanted all along.

Now the Jets are looking at the likes of Mike Tice. They could have waited until March to hire the likes of Mike Tice. I'm sorry but the term "urgency" and interviewing Mike Tice should not be mentioned in the same sentance.

 
Can NE block the JEts from interviewing him even though it is a HC position? Do the JEts have to wait until NE is eliminated?

Reported that Hasslett was interviewed last night and Vitt will be next. Hope to God this is just window dresssing! :yucky:
They need to interview a minority candidate, Haslett isn't, Mangini doesn;t sound like he is and Vitt I don't know about.NYJ will have to wait for NE to finish the playoffs in order to get access to Mangini - no way NE will give them authorization before even if it was allowed by NFL rules which I am pretty sure it isn't.

 
I'm sorry but the term "urgency" and interviewing Mike Tice should not be mentioned in the same sentance.
Urgency refers more to ahving enough time to assemble a coaching staff to prepare for the draft IMHO than to hiring Tice as such.
 
I don't know about that. The Jets weren't going to keep Herm -- Woody didn't want him around, and Herm was unhappy with Woody and his contract. The Jets need to replace Herm, and every day they keep him around is a day they can't hire a new coach. They already missed out on Childress, and the sooner they begin the process to find a replacement the better. Getting a 4th rounder is dissapointing, but not more dissapointing than getting a 2nd rounder and a bad coach, or a 2nd rounder and an unhappy front office.
If the Jets were to get rid of Herm no matter what, which of the following scenarios represent the smartest business decision?

1) Fire him and potentially pay him 2 million dollars per year for the next two years

or

2) Trade him for a pick (any pick).

If the front offices of other clubs believed he was about to be fired - I'd certainly go with #2

How about #3

Play some freaking poker and tell Herm he is the coach at his salary no matter what next year and if KC wants you they will have to pony up a #1 or #2 pick. If they don't and the Jets really don't want him commin back - wait until all the vacancies are filled - fire Herm and replace him with a coordinator on staff.

At least you have diginity!

A 4th rd pick in this case is like tossing a $1,000 per night call girl a $5 tip after you get a freebie from a friend. In either case its the Jets that got screwed!
 
Can NE block the JEts from interviewing him even though  it is a HC position?  Do the JEts have to wait until NE is eliminated? 

Reported that Hasslett was interviewed last night and Vitt will be next.  Hope to God this is just window dresssing!  :yucky:
They need to interview a minority candidate, Haslett isn't, Mangini doesn;t sound like he is and Vitt I don't know about.NYJ will have to wait for NE to finish the playoffs in order to get access to Mangini - no way NE will give them authorization before even if it was allowed by NFL rules which I am pretty sure it isn't.
Donnie hnderson will be interviewed this week
 
How about #3

Play some freaking poker and tell Herm he is the coach at his salary no matter what next year and if KC wants you they will have to pony up a #1 or #2 pick. If they don't and the Jets really don't want him commin back - wait until all the vacancies are filled - fire Herm and replace him with a coordinator on staff.

At least you have diginity!

A 4th rd pick in this case is like tossing a $1,000 per night call girl a $5 tip after you get a freebie from a friend. In either case its the Jets that got screwed!

Thank you.

At least someone sees what I'm talking about.

 
I don't know about that. The Jets weren't going to keep Herm -- Woody didn't want him around, and Herm was unhappy with Woody and his contract. The Jets need to replace Herm, and every day they keep him around is a day they can't hire a new coach. They already missed out on Childress, and the sooner they begin the process to find a replacement the better. Getting a 4th rounder is dissapointing, but not more dissapointing than getting a 2nd rounder and a bad coach, or a 2nd rounder and an unhappy front office.
I agree.This actually turned out to be a good situation for Woody. Clearly he wanted Herm out, and when the Chiefs came a-calling, they saved him from having to make a tough decision from a public relations standpoint. And yes, despite the 4-12 year, there are plenty of local media that would have questioned Woody's decision to get rid of Herm and start anew. Especially considering Herm had to deal with the massive injuries, had them playing hard, and got them to the playoffs the last 3 out of 4 years.

 
#3 may not have been an option that Woody allowed Bradshaw to consider. We do not have the whole story here. But it might have been the better choice.

 
They need to interview a minority candidate, Haslett isn't, Mangini doesn;t sound like he is and Vitt I don't know about.

NYJ will have to wait for NE to finish the playoffs in order to get access to Mangini - no way NE will give them authorization before even if it was allowed by NFL rules which I am pretty sure it isn't.
I'm pretty sure they are giving interviews to the coordinators, so Henderson will take care of that.
 
NY papers reporting that Bradaway is going up to NE to interview Mangini this week. He seems to be the #1 candidate with the fallback being....gulp....Mike Tice. :o Isn't that like going after a nice sports car with your fallback being an old Rambler? Only the Jets - leaving themselves open for Bellichick to screw them again. I would love to have Mangini but I'm just as sure that BB will steer his protege away from "HC of the NYJ."Welcome to NY Meathead! Book your tickets on the Circle Line early! :bag:

 
:hot: i wont worry aboot coaches yet, until someone is hired. i am scared of the prospects of haslett & tice, but dont think bradway would do that to himself.that said, i missed the memo on when herm became vince lombardi. the guy hired 2 of the worst coordinators possible in cotrell & hackett. he needed to hire a clock management coach, cause herm became befuddled by the clock on a constant basis. in fact, this became quite the joke. herm, a dungy deciple, is content on playing 13-10 games regardless of the personnel. this is all fine and dandy if you know how to manage a game. hindsight on bradway is great, but i dont disagree with a lot of what he's done. its nice to be able to keep your free agents, but if stupid offers are made, you have to let guys go (i.e. mackenzie, coles). pennington was signed prior to his first shoulder injury. robertson, who hasn't been anything special, was a well regarded prospect by all teams and bradway had the nads to move to get him. moss could never stay on the field.coles gets a pass this year in my book. martin is a bigger issue, but he's such a 'good soldier', the jets got themselves married to the guy. i lok at martin like eddie george. long solid career, but even he got cut.
 

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