NYC assassination news thread - Please no politics (2 Viewers)

[fatness]

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[El Floppo]

Saw the pictures for the first time. My immediate thought is thats the largest nose bridge I’ve ever seen. The brazen manner in which he doesn’t hide his face makes me wonder if he’s wearing some form of mask.

Like this?

Inka Dinka don't

 

[Scoresman]

Yea this is a wild story. Something kinda like out of Fargo.

It is crazy. As is the online "public" reaction.

Agreed. Thank y'all for keeping this thread more cool.

Some of the stuff on social was awful. A man was murdered. And kids lost their dad. This is real life and real humans. This isn't John Wick.

Thank y'all for being civil.

I agree with this but aren't all of the people who died or went bankrupt because of denied coverage “real life and real humans too?”

As I said in the previous thread, I will never condone murder as a means of justice for this problem, and I’ll shut up if you don’t want this as part of the conversation, but there’s a very real and human reason why people are so upset that they end up celebrating this incident. I don’t agree with it, but I do understand it.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Yea this is a wild story. Something kinda like out of Fargo.

It is crazy. As is the online "public" reaction.

Agreed. Thank y'all for keeping this thread more cool.

Some of the stuff on social was awful. A man was murdered. And kids lost their dad. This is real life and real humans. This isn't John Wick.

Thank y'all for being civil.

I agree with this but aren't all of the people who died or went bankrupt because of denied coverage “real life and real humans too?”

As I said in the previous thread, I will never condone murder as a means of justice for this problem, and I’ll shut up if you don’t want this as part of the conversation, but there’s a very real and human reason why people are so upset that they end up celebrating this incident. I don’t agree with it, but I do understand it.

Of course other people are real humans too. But I don't want us ever to be cheering for people to die. Or celebrating a murder. Like I saw in other places with this.

There can be a real discussion about insurance businesses and health care. But the "guy got what he deserved" stuff is not what I want here and I'm thankful folks didn't bring that here.

As I said, this isn't a John Wick movie.

 

[ShamrockPride]

And we all thank you @Joe Bryant , despite all of our past transgressions as a collective forum, for allowing us the opportunity to discuss this kind of content in a civil manner.

 

[Joe Bryant]

And we all thank you @Joe Bryant , despite all of our past transgressions as a collective forum, for allowing us the opportunity to discuss this kind of content in a civil manner.

Credit is to you folks. Y'all have done a great job keeping this civil. Thanks.

 

[bagger]

just an observation most people i hear talking about this in my life say murder is bad and they feel bad for his kids but no one and i mean no one is defending the insurance industry and everyone is saying they totally understand why someone would want to take this guys life and that is pretty scary to me to be honest take that to the bank brohans

Remember Sammy Jankis.

 

[BeTheMatch]

Apparently the backpack they found in Central Park was full of Monopoly money.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

Is the reward still $10K? That seems so piddly. It's $250k for the top 10 FBI most wanted. Seems United Healthcare would offer up significantly more than $10k. There are people in NYC that wouldn't walk to the corner for 10k.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

Yea this is a wild story. Something kinda like out of Fargo.

It is crazy. As is the online "public" reaction.

Agreed. Thank y'all for keeping this thread more cool.

Some of the stuff on social was awful. A man was murdered. And kids lost their dad. This is real life and real humans. This isn't John Wick.

Thank y'all for being civil.

I agree with this but aren't all of the people who died or went bankrupt because of denied coverage “real life and real humans too?”

As I said in the previous thread, I will never condone murder as a means of justice for this problem, and I’ll shut up if you don’t want this as part of the conversation, but there’s a very real and human reason why people are so upset that they end up celebrating this incident. I don’t agree with it, but I do understand it.

Of course other people are real humans too. But I don't want us ever to be cheering for people to die. Or celebrating a murder. Like I saw in other places with this.

There can be a real discussion about insurance businesses and health care. But the "guy got what he deserved" stuff is not what I want here and I'm thankful folks didn't bring that here.

As I said, this isn't a John Wick movie.

There are plenty of people in the world we would be cheering to die. Putin. Kim Jong Il. etc. People cheered Hitlers death. They weren't wrong for it. This is not that situation, but there are many times when one persons death saves millions of others.

 

[the moops]

Exactly. Imagine the 5 closest people in your life. If you saw their photo exactly like the suspect in this case, you would immediately say “OMG, that’s my friend Billy.”

Yea, if this guy was even just one of my neighbors who I only kinda knew I would recognize him from that photo

 

[Capella]

Apparently the backpack they found in Central Park was full of Monopoly money.

Bro this man is the joker what the hell

 

[TennesseeJed]

If their latest update 72 hours later is "they think he left New York", I'm thinking this guy got away with it.

IMO, any expectation that they get this guy is at a minimum right now.

Not a good look for NYPD at all. At some point I’d bet they get him but to murder someone and make it free this long is not good.

"While the rate at which murders are solved or "cleared" has been declining for decades, it has now dropped to slightly below 50% in 2020 - a new historic low. And several big cities, including Chicago, have seen the number of murder cases resulting in at least one arrest dip into the low to mid-30% range."

https://www.npr.org/2023/04/29/1172775448/people-murder-unsolved-killings-record-high

Seems that this is par for the course - although most murders don't get the kind of media coverage this one got. It won't be long before the media move on, and the next big story takes its turn in the public conscience.

 

[the moops]

Apparently the backpack they found in Central Park was full of Monopoly money.

Bro this man is the joker what the hell

Wait this is real? Holy ****

 

[GoBirds]

If their latest update 72 hours later is "they think he left New York", I'm thinking this guy got away with it.

IMO, any expectation that they get this guy is at a minimum right now.

Not a good look for NYPD at all. At some point I’d bet they get him but to murder someone and make it free this long is not good.

"While the rate at which murders are solved or "cleared" has been declining for decades, it has now dropped to slightly below 50% in 2020 - a new historic low. And several big cities, including Chicago, have seen the number of murder cases resulting in at least one arrest dip into the low to mid-30% range."

https://www.npr.org/2023/04/29/1172775448/people-murder-unsolved-killings-record-high

Seems that this is par for the course - although most murders don't get the kind of media coverage this one got. It won't be long before the media move on, and the next big story takes its turn in the public conscience.

That’s a pretty sad stat. In the middle of the street in broad daylight with people around, cameras everywhere is what makes this one shocking. To me at least. Not only escapes the scene but is long gone in a different state most likely. Maybe I’m naive, didn’t know we were this bad.

 

[Terminalxylem]

There can be a real discussion about insurance businesses and health care.

Not if that thread was locked

 

[Capella]

Apparently the backpack they found in Central Park was full of Monopoly money.

Bro this man is the joker what the hell

Wait this is real? Holy ****

It’s all over Twitter so I assume so.

 

[the moops]

If their latest update 72 hours later is "they think he left New York", I'm thinking this guy got away with it.

IMO, any expectation that they get this guy is at a minimum right now.

Not a good look for NYPD at all. At some point I’d bet they get him but to murder someone and make it free this long is not good.

"While the rate at which murders are solved or "cleared" has been declining for decades, it has now dropped to slightly below 50% in 2020 - a new historic low. And several big cities, including Chicago, have seen the number of murder cases resulting in at least one arrest dip into the low to mid-30% range."

https://www.npr.org/2023/04/29/1172775448/people-murder-unsolved-killings-record-high

Seems that this is par for the course - although most murders don't get the kind of media coverage this one got. It won't be long before the media move on, and the next big story takes its turn in the public conscience.

That’s a pretty sad stat. In the middle of the street in broad daylight with people around, cameras everywhere is what makes this one shocking. To me at least. Not only escapes the scene but is long gone in a different state most likely. Maybe I’m naive, didn’t know we were this bad.

What exactly are you expecting out of our law enforcement in these situations? I imagine you would not be in favor of a police state where nobody can travel between states without checkpoints - so not sure what else the NYPD could have done

 

[El Floppo]

Apparently the backpack they found in Central Park was full of Monopoly money.

Bro this man is the joker what the hell

Wait this is real? Holy ****

It’s all over Twitter so I assume so.

In MSM as well.

Backpack had his jacket and monopoly money.

NY Post reported mayor Adams said police have the guys name and others are running with that. But when I read what Adams actually said, it wasn't entirely clear to me that that was the case.

 

[Payne]

I still think this guy was a pro and knew exactly what he was doing.

I agree with whoever above said maybe his face was in disguise. I think he is leading the police on a wild goose chase.
The backpack with potentially monopoly money included.

 

[Jayrod]

Is this the new D.B. Cooper?

 

[dickey moe]

Apparently the backpack they found in Central Park was full of Monopoly money.

Bro this man is the joker what the hell

Wait this is real? Holy ****

It’s all over Twitter so I assume so.

 

[fatness]

NYPD divers were searching a body of water in New York’s Central Park on Saturday for the firearm used in the fatal shooting of a health care executive in Manhattan

"On Friday evening, authorities found a backpack in the park which will be tested at a forensic lab in Queens, a law enforcement official told CNN. No gun was found in the backpack believed to have belonged to the gunman, law enforcement officials said Saturday. Authorities have yet to officially confirm the bag’s origins, an official told CNN Friday.

The Peak Design backpack contained a Tommy Hilfiger jacket, according to the officials. It was not immediately clear if other items were in the backpack, officials said."

 

[Capella]

NYPD divers were searching a body of water in New York’s Central Park on Saturday for the firearm used in the fatal shooting of a health care executive in Manhattan

"On Friday evening, authorities found a backpack in the park which will be tested at a forensic lab in Queens, a law enforcement official told CNN. No gun was found in the backpack believed to have belonged to the gunman, law enforcement officials said Saturday. Authorities have yet to officially confirm the bag’s origins, an official told CNN Friday.

The Peak Design backpack contained a Tommy Hilfiger jacket, according to the officials. It was not immediately clear if other items were in the backpack, officials said."

Ok you got the murder weapon but no prints since it’s been sitting in the lake for a 5 days so how do you tie it to him.

 

[scoobus]

Attached to the gun was a Joker playing card...

 

[SteelCurtain]

Is the reward still $10K? That seems so piddly. It's $250k for the top 10 FBI most wanted. Seems United Healthcare would offer up significantly more than $10k. There are people in NYC that wouldn't walk to the corner for 10k.

Reward is now $50k.

I find it hard to believe the police don’t know his name. They just may not know where he is but I have to believe they know who they are looking for.

 

[The Z Machine]

Is the reward still $10K? That seems so piddly. It's $250k for the top 10 FBI most wanted. Seems United Healthcare would offer up significantly more than $10k. There are people in NYC that wouldn't walk to the corner for 10k.

Reward is now $50k.

I find it hard to believe the police don’t know his name. They just may not know where he is but I have to believe they know who they are looking for.

Why? All they have is a face that might have been disguised. Not saying they don't have a name, but it's very possible they don't have a name. The only physical evidence is a backpack with a jacket in it, some casings, and maybe a water bottle.

 

[Navin Johnson]

Is the reward still $10K? That seems so piddly. It's $250k for the top 10 FBI most wanted. Seems United Healthcare would offer up significantly more than $10k. There are people in NYC that wouldn't walk to the corner for

Is the reward still $10K? That seems so piddly. It's $250k for the top 10 FBI most wanted. Seems United Healthcare would offer up significantly more than $10k. There are people in NYC that wouldn't walk to the corner for 10k.

Reward is now $50k.

I find it hard to believe the police don’t know his name. They just may not know where he is but I have to believe they know who they are looking for.

Reward is contigent on the info leading to the arrest and conviction. It doesn't get paid out if he never stands trial.

 

[Joe Bryant]

There can be a real discussion about insurance businesses and health care.

Not if that thread was locked

You are able to start a new thread.

Maybe that one wouldn't completely derail.

 

[Navin Johnson]

There can be a real discussion about insurance businesses and health care.

Not if that thread was locked

You are able to start a new thread.

Maybe that one wouldn't completely derail.

The justification of murdering innocents is exponentially worse in a few other threads that continue to remain unlocked.

 

[Joe Bryant]

There can be a real discussion about insurance businesses and health care.

Not if that thread was locked

You are able to start a new thread.

Maybe that one wouldn't completely derail.

The justification of murdering innocents is exponentially worse in a few other threads that continue to remain unlocked.

Please report any posts you see that are over the line there. It may be we have to close all threads discussing war if that's what people want. We can take a look. Thanks.

 

[culdeus]

Has anyone said that his face has a little bit of a guy fawkes look? What if he went all mission impossible here.

 

[TheAristocrat]

Backpack identifies the shooter as Jan Sport. I was way off.

 

[McBokonon]

I really wish I hadn't just rewatched Sopranos again because now I can't help but assume this guy is already back in an Italian village drinking an espresso.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

This is all too weird.
Sneaking suspicion, it was some macabre domestic rage with a jilted partner that led to this very-public act coupled with an elaborate and bizarre cover story as every one of these idiosyncratic bits of evidence that has been leaked get more like a bad movie script.

 

[TennesseeJed]

Here’s what authorities are still trying to find:

• The confirmed identity of the suspect
• The weapon used in the shooting
• The bicycle the suspect used to get away

And here are some of the key pieces of evidence they’ve gathered:

• Images of the suspect’s unmasked face
• Video evidence of the path he took to escape
• The backpack possibly worn by the suspect, with a jacket inside
• DNA from a discarded Starbucks water bottle
• A partial fingerprint from the water bottle
• A discarded “burner” cell phone
• 9 mm shell casings with the words “delay,” “deny” and “depose” written on them

per cnn

 

[TennesseeJed]

Assuming there is decent DNA evidence from the water bottle - I would think its only a matter of time before they can identify the shooter.

His DNA may not be in any database - but with all the genealogy sites, it seems probable that a family member has DNA on file somewhere - and I think once they get a close link, they can start to narrow down family members.

 

[Capella]

And here are some of the key pieces of evidence they’ve gathered:

10 billion dollar agency and they have a paper cup and some board game money lol

 

[SteelCurtain]

Is the reward still $10K? That seems so piddly. It's $250k for the top 10 FBI most wanted. Seems United Healthcare would offer up significantly more than $10k. There are people in NYC that wouldn't walk to the corner for 10k.

Reward is now $50k.

I find it hard to believe the police don’t know his name. They just may not know where he is but I have to believe they know who they are looking for.

Why? All they have is a face that might have been disguised. Not saying they don't have a name, but it's very possible they don't have a name. The only physical evidence is a backpack with a jacket in it, some casings, and maybe a water bottle.

They just released another photo from a cab. You can see his eyes much better there.

I would think they know who he was based on the photo and getting tips from the public. However, since they just released another photo, it makes me feel like I'm wrong and they are still figuring it out.

 

[the moops]

Is the reward still $10K? That seems so piddly. It's $250k for the top 10 FBI most wanted. Seems United Healthcare would offer up significantly more than $10k. There are people in NYC that wouldn't walk to the corner for 10k.

Reward is now $50k.

I find it hard to believe the police don’t know his name. They just may not know where he is but I have to believe they know who they are looking for.

Why? All they have is a face that might have been disguised. Not saying they don't have a name, but it's very possible they don't have a name. The only physical evidence is a backpack with a jacket in it, some casings, and maybe a water bottle.

They just released another photo from a cab. You can see his eyes much better there.

I would think they know who he was based on the photo and getting tips from the public. However, since they just released another photo, it makes me feel like I'm wrong and they are still figuring it out.

They may know who he is but still release images so maybe someone sitting next to him on a greyhound bus or whatever may recognize him.

 

[Sand]

NY Post reported mayor Adams said police have the guys name and others are running with that.

Maybe just me, but when I saw the pictures I thought it was Jake Gyllenhall. Obviously not him, but the similarity is uncanny - I guess everyone has a doppleganger.

 

[El Floppo]

NY Post reported mayor Adams said police have the guys name and others are running with that.

Maybe just me, but when I saw the pictures I thought it was Jake Gyllenhall. Obviously not him, but the similarity is uncanny - I guess everyone has a doppleganger.

NYC just a had a " come as Timothy Chalomet" event, that Chamlomet crashed. Smiley looks like that.

 

[SWC]

just an observation most people i hear talking about this in my life say murder is bad and they feel bad for his kids but no one and i mean no one is defending the insurance industry and everyone is saying they totally understand why someone would want to take this guys life and that is pretty scary to me to be honest take that to the bank brohans

Remember Sammy Jankis.

if you were him you wouldnt take that to the bank brohan

 

[Sammy3469]

I hope I'm wrong on this, but I don't get the sense they have any idea where he went. Even if they know who he is and are sitting on his normal haunts, he pretty clearly hasn't returned to them.

 

[El Floppo]

I hope I'm wrong on this, but I don't get the sense they have any idea where he went. Even if they know who he is and are sitting on his normal haunts, he pretty clearly hasn't returned to them.

They don't know who he is.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

NY Post reported mayor Adams said police have the guys name and others are running with that.

Maybe just me, but when I saw the pictures I thought it was Jake Gyllenhall. Obviously not him, but the similarity is uncanny - I guess everyone has a doppleganger.

I also thought of Jake. That’s funny.

 

[Chemical X]

I really wish I hadn't just rewatched Sopranos again because now I can't help but assume this guy is already back in an Italian village drinking an espresso.

i’ll look around

 

[beer 30]

That’s a pretty sad stat. In the middle of the street in broad daylight with people around, cameras everywhere is what makes this one shocking. To me at least. Not only escapes the scene but is long gone in a different state most likely. Maybe I’m naive, didn’t know we were this bad.

I think people get spoiled watching TV and movies. Reality is, if you plan out a crime like this, you stand a pretty good chance of getting away with it in a city the size of NY. It's not on the cops, I think 1.) they are doing the best they can right now with the information they have and 2.) I think they probably know a little more than they are sharing with the public. Remember, the NYPD is like a small army. There probably isn't a more surveilled city in the US. It's getting harder, especially w/phone data but you can still defeat that by buying a burner then ditching it.

I'm not shocked he's still running around, probably will be for a while unless he slips up.

 

[Mister CIA]

If this guy's plans included prep to hunker somewhere out of site for a few months, it might be almost impossible to catch him now, especially if a disguise (or other sorts of misdirection) was used.

 

[Joe Bryant]

If this guy's plans included prep to hunker somewhere out of site for a few months, it might be almost impossible to catch him now, especially if a disguise (or other sorts of misdirection) was used.

I wondered that too.

Also, I have no idea if this post is right, but it seems for mask stuff, it's way more simple than Mission Impossible level super spy special mask stuff. https://x.com/ReturnOfKappy/status/1864525424929231294