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Obama: Worst President Ever? (1 Viewer)

Is Obama the worst president ever?

  • Yes

    Votes: 185 33.6%

  • No

    Votes: 365 66.4%
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Judging by the voting, there are 137 FBG's who are no more than 8 years old. That's pretty much my takeaway from this thread.

 
JohnnyU said:
Kim Jung-un wouldn't be pulling this crap with Ronnie in office.
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What would Reagan have done? He pulled people out of the middle east after the embassy bombing, only put troops on the ground in one "war" in Grenada. Don't think these were necessarily bad moves but he wasn't some tough guy either.

 
He's not the worst president in history, but he hasn't exactly been stellar.

1. His healthcare act is causing all kinds of trouble for pretty much everybody, healthcare rates are rising pretty rapidly, and the coverage offered is pretty terrible. The system needed an overhaul, and still does, but the ACA wasn't the way to do it.

2. The Middle East is still a disaster (though it has been since discovering fire was a thing), and it's clear that nobody is intimidated by his threats of action. However, the US has had a pretty terrible track record at Middle Eastern foreign policy for some time.

3. He seems to suffer the same cognitive malfunction that most liberals have, in which they blame guns for killing people, when it's clear that guns are simply the means by which the killings happen. Attempting to make guns illegal will not stop gun crimes, despite their best arguments.

4. The nation seems to be at its most divided in my lifetime, and racial tensions are once again the issue of the day. I doubt that can be blamed on him, however. Most of the folks I discuss politics with dislike him not because of his skin color, but because of his politics. That doesn't stop Obama supporters from saying that dissenters are racist, and since that is such a charged word, once it starts getting thrown around, almost all opportunities for reasonable discourse are immediately thrown out the window.

 
JohnnyU said:
Kim Jung-un wouldn't be pulling this crap with Ronnie in office.
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You realize that Jung-Un is widely regarded as a joke? He's a power-hungry dictator who no one is afraid of.  Ooooh, he launches missiles that crash into the ocean 2 miles from shore.  We're still waiting for you to tell us what he's 'pulled' that hurts or threatens the US in any way.

 
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Kal El said:
He's not the worst president in history, but he hasn't exactly been stellar.

1. His healthcare act is causing all kinds of trouble for pretty much everybody, healthcare rates are rising pretty rapidly, and the coverage offered is pretty terrible. The system needed an overhaul, and still does, but the ACA wasn't the way to do it.

2. The Middle East is still a disaster (though it has been since discovering fire was a thing), and it's clear that nobody is intimidated by his threats of action. However, the US has had a pretty terrible track record at Middle Eastern foreign policy for some time.

3. He seems to suffer the same cognitive malfunction that most liberals have, in which they blame guns for killing people, when it's clear that guns are simply the means by which the killings happen. Attempting to make guns illegal will not stop gun crimes, despite their best arguments.

4. The nation seems to be at its most divided in my lifetime, and racial tensions are once again the issue of the day. I doubt that can be blamed on him, however. Most of the folks I discuss politics with dislike him not because of his skin color, but because of his politics. That doesn't stop Obama supporters from saying that dissenters are racist, and since that is such a charged word, once it starts getting thrown around, almost all opportunities for reasonable discourse are immediately thrown out the window.
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:loco:

 
RBM said:
And on the above I'd like to see someone tell the arrogant SOB he isn't qualified to make that call. 
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You'd like someone to tell the President he isn't qualified to talk about National Security?? Ok....

Thread is just proof of the incredible damage the right-wing media has done to the Republican party.

Without all their fear mongering and framing Obama as the devil, they might not be handing the election to Hillary on a silver platter this year.

 
JuniorNB said:
You realize that Jung-Un is widely regarded as a joke? He's a power-hungry dictator who no one is afraid of.  Ooooh, he launches missiles that crash into the ocean 2 miles from shore.  We're still waiting for you to tell us what he's 'pulled' that hurts or threatens the US in any way.
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Don't under estimate what Jung-Un is doing.  If you want to ignore his regime developing delivery systems that can affect not only South Korea, but also the US, then I'm sure that's exactly what he wants.  Anyone taking him as a joke is the first mistake.  This guy is just crazy enough we should be paying attention to him.

 
JohnnyU said:
Don't under estimate what Jung-Un is doing.  If you want to ignore his regime developing delivery systems that can affect not only South Korea, but also the US, then I'm sure that's exactly what he wants.  Anyone taking him as a joke is the first mistake.  This guy is just crazy enough we should be paying attention to him.
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BO has Jung-Un exactly where he wants him.

 
Don't under estimate what Jung-Un is doing. If you want to ignore his regime developing delivery systems that can affect not only South Korea, but also the US, then I'm sure that's exactly what he wants. Anyone taking him as a joke is the first mistake. This guy is just crazy enough we should be paying attention to him.
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What is Obama doing or not doing that is significantly different from the Bush administration?

 
JohnnyU said:
Don't under estimate what Jung-Un is doing.  If you want to ignore his regime developing delivery systems that can affect not only South Korea, but also the US, then I'm sure that's exactly what he wants.  Anyone taking him as a joke is the first mistake.  This guy is just crazy enough we should be paying attention to him.
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I'm quite sure we're paying attention. And laughing. The guy is a buffoon. We could annihilate him and his country in about 12 hours.  

 
JohnnyU said:
Don't under estimate what Jung-Un is doing.  If you want to ignore his regime developing delivery systems that can affect not only South Korea, but also the US, then I'm sure that's exactly what he wants.  Anyone taking him as a joke is the first mistake.  This guy is just crazy enough we should be paying attention to him.
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Absolutely no chance. 

 
Kal El said:
3. He seems to suffer the same cognitive malfunction that most liberals have, in which they blame guns for killing people, when it's clear that guns are simply the means by which the killings happen. Attempting to make guns illegal will not stop gun crimes, despite their best arguments.
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1.  He is attempting to make guns illegal?  Do you even believe that?

2.  I used to live in a country with incredibly strict gun laws, and in a massive coincidence, they have very few gun crimes.  

 
JohnnyU said:
Worst President ever?  I don't think so, but he does seem to be a pushover.  Ronald Reagan he is not.  It does seem as if dangerous leaders around the world don't fear him at all.  Now Reagan was a President they feared.
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How many times have we been attacked by a foreign country who now thinks we are weak because Obama is a "pushover" again?

Again, right-wing media has really done a number on you guys.

 
flapgreen said:
Set this country back decades and divided the country in half.  The signs are everywhere. The Great Divider!  Horrible human being 
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Yeah! How dare he be elected President AND be black!! The nerve of some people!

Yet again, gotta hand it to the right-wing media.

Obama faces more death threats than any other President, while facing the #1 most obstructionist Congress in US history, and HE is the "great divider". Sad that it works so easily on simpletons.

 
JuniorNB said:
I'm quite sure we're paying attention. And laughing. The guy is a buffoon. We could annihilate him and his country in about 12 hours.  
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The people don't deserve to suffer for the lunacy of their leader, and besides, why would we use up a billion dollars worth of equipment and weaponry to cause $20 worth of damage, crippling their economy further?

 
flapgreen said:
Biden and Obama determined to burn as many bridges as possible in their last few months in office,  while keeping their relationship with Islam intact.  Let's trash Israel but  make excuses for Islam. Destroying our country.  The Great Divider! 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/04/19/biden-slams-netanyahu-hours-after-jerusalem-attack.html?intcmp=hppop
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You don't read for content, do you? Headlines are enough, right?

And if headlines are what you want...

 
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flapgreen said:
Biden and Obama determined to burn as many bridges as possible in their last few months in office,  while keeping their relationship with Islam intact.  Let's trash Israel but  make excuses for Islam. Destroying our country.  The Great Divider! 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/04/19/biden-slams-netanyahu-hours-after-jerusalem-attack.html?intcmp=hppop
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Did you read the article?

"I firmly believe that the actions that Israel's government has taken over the past several years -- the steady and systematic expansion of settlements, the legalization of outposts, land seizures -- they're moving us, and, more importantly, they're moving Israel in the wrong direction," Biden said.
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Is any of that an unreasonable thing to say?  Do you think Israel is innocent in their actions?  

Note: this is not condoning acts of aggression and terrorism towards them.  Just stick to what is actually said and asked.

 
sho nuff said:
Did you read the article?

Is any of that an unreasonable thing to say?  Do you think Israel is innocent in their actions?  

Note: this is not condoning acts of aggression and terrorism towards them.  Just stick to what is actually said and asked.
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You forgot the part where he made excuses for Islam:

Biden did single out Palestinian leaders, including Mahmoud Abbas, for declining to condemn specific acts of terrorism carried out against Israelis. The vice president said he didn't know whether Monday's explosion was a terrorist attack, but added that the U.S. condemns "misguided cowards" who resort to violence.
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SIMPLY THE WORST=> Obama is First President Ever to Not See Single Year of 3% GDP Growth


The rate of real economic growth is the single greatest determinate of both America’s strength as a nation and the well-being of the American people.

On Thursday the Commerce Department announced that the US economy expanded at the slowest pace in two years. GDP growth rose at an anemic 0.5% rate after a paltry 1.4% fourth quarter advance.

Ronald Reagan brought forth an annual real GDP growth of 3.5%.
Barack Obama will be lucky to average a 1.55% GDP growth rate. 

This ranks Obama as the fourth worst presidency on record.

Barack Obama will be the only U.S. president in history who did not deliver a single year of 3.0%+ economic growth.

According to Louis Woodhill, if the economy continues to perform below 2.67% GDP growth rate this year, President Barack Obama will leave office with the fourth worst economic record in US history.


Assuming 2.67% RGDP growth for 2016, Obama will leave office having produced an average of 1.55% growth. This would place his presidency fourth from the bottom of the list of 39*, above only those of Herbert Hoover (-5.65%), Andrew Johnson (-0.70%) and Theodore Roosevelt (1.41%)
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http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/04/simply-worst-obama-first-president-ever-not-see-single-year-3-gdp/

 
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Let's see - Inauguration Day 2017 is on January 20th.   What's the over/under on # of days until the next president is declared the worst ever by someone in this thread? 

 
Now the damn President is deciding for schools to allow transgender bathrooms?  Wtf dude.  This steaming pile of crap is determined to tear apart as much of this country as he can in his remaining few months.  Evil evil man. 

 
flapgreen said:
Now the damn President is deciding for schools to allow transgender bathrooms?  Wtf dude.  This steaming pile of crap is determined to tear apart as much of this country as he can in his remaining few months.  Evil evil man. 
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Another horribly misguided position and abuse of power.  And this is coming from someone who is and always has been a strong proponent of gay and transgender rights.  My issue with the position is not that transgenders will do anything inappropriate.  It's that it opens up a whole Pandora's box of possibilities that could facilitate perverts gaining easier access to women's locker rooms and bathrooms.  The law doesn't clearly spell out what it means to "identify as a woman".  Do you have to dress like one?  Talk like one?  Walk like one?  Or can you just merely say, "I identify as one"?  Not a well thought out policy and one that will backfire on him.

 
Moves like this will make people who didn't care about this law one way or the other, myself included, feel like it's being forced on the nation. 

 
flapgreen said:
Now the damn President is deciding for schools to allow transgender bathrooms?  Wtf dude.  This steaming pile of crap is determined to tear apart as much of this country as he can in his remaining few months.  Evil evil man. 
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lol Fox News sure has done a number on this poor chap.

 
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