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I thought Obama gave the best speeches ever.
Looking fwd to the day when you recognize that the Keynesians were right, and the fiscal conservatives who wanted to slash spending during the economic crisis were wrong. Perhaps then you will give credit where credit is due.Sp you have no specific criticism to offer? As to your comment, you're correct, I don't know when to stop. I think President Obama has been a mediocre President overall, but a terrific foreign policy President. I have consistently listed specific reasons why in this forum. If you disagree then I ask that you do the same. If you're unwilling or incapable of doing so, then I can only conclude that you have no idea what you're talking about.You never know when to stop!Those of you who are critical of the speech: any specifics? Please name a sentence or phrase in the speech you did not like and explain why.
the parts where he killed all those strawmenThose of you who are critical of the speech: any specifics? Please name a sentence or phrase in the speech you did not like and explain why.
I was in the military 20 years and currently work with them daily. I dont need a link to anything...No high ranking military officer is going to say that publicly anyway....Link to a military authority who has either said this or implied it in any way?The military doesnt like Obama, deal with it....
Welcome to the bored. Who are you, again?I was in the military 20 years and currently work with them daily. I dont need a link to anything...No high ranking military officer is going to say that publicly anyway....Link to a military authority who has either said this or implied it in any way?The military doesnt like Obama, deal with it....
What is it about Obama they dislike? The fact that he ended the wars and hasn't found any more brown people they can kill?I was in the military 20 years and currently work with them daily. I dont need a link to anything...No high ranking military officer is going to say that publicly anyway....Link to a military authority who has either said this or implied it in any way?The military doesnt like Obama, deal with it....
They dont care for his lying, his integrity, his policies. I dont ask people specifically but everyone i have ran into the past 5 years doesnt care for him. I am sure there are some that do but i would be willing to bet they are in the minority.What is it about Obama they dislike? The fact that he ended the wars and hasn't found any more brown people they can kill?I was in the military 20 years and currently work with them daily. I dont need a link to anything...No high ranking military officer is going to say that publicly anyway....Link to a military authority who has either said this or implied it in any way?The military doesnt like Obama, deal with it....
I did, you ignored. Why bring up things like global warming in a commencement speech? Absolutely the wrong place and wrong place and wrong time. He consistently comes across as a partisan who can not appeal to both sides. Kennedy, Reagan and Clinton were brilliant at that, and is why they are great presidents. Obama is unable to rise above partisan politics. And there is nothing unique about the times. Politics has always been partisan, but some are better at overcoming that than others.Those of you who are critical of the speech: any specifics? Please name a sentence or phrase in the speech you did not like and explain why.
Fixed.I did, you ignored. Why bring up things like global warming in a commencement speech? Absolutely the wrong place and wrong place and wrong time. He consistently comes across as a partisan who can not appeal to both sides. Kennedy, Reagan and Clinton were brilliant at that, and is why they are great presidentspoliticians. Obama is unable to rise above partisan politics. And there is nothing unique about the times. Politics has always been partisan, but some are better at overcoming that than others.Those of you who are critical of the speech: any specifics? Please name a sentence or phrase in the speech you did not like and explain why.
It is YOUR contention that global warming represents "partisan politics". I don't agree with notion. IMO, it's one of the most vital issues affecting the world today, and it is absolutely pertinent to any speech that Obama might give regarding national affairs. So I disagree with your entire premise.I did, you ignored. Why bring up things like global warming in a commencement speech? Absolutely the wrong place and wrong place and wrong time. He consistently comes across as a partisan who can not appeal to both sides. Kennedy, Reagan and Clinton were brilliant at that, and is why they are great presidents. Obama is unable to rise above partisan politics. And there is nothing unique about the times. Politics has always been partisan, but some are better at overcoming that than others.Those of you who are critical of the speech: any specifics? Please name a sentence or phrase in the speech you did not like and explain why.
That was just one example, but yes Obama's solution is very much partisan. Pushing regulations unilaterally without any commitment from other nations which happen to only become effective after he leaves office. Very stupid and cowardly. Regardless of how you label it, it was inappropriateIt is YOUR contention that global warming represents "partisan politics". I don't agree with notion. IMO, it's one of the most vital issues affecting the world today, and it is absolutely pertinent to any speech that Obama might give regarding national affairs. So I disagree with your entire premise.I did, you ignored. Why bring up things like global warming in a commencement speech? Absolutely the wrong place and wrong place and wrong time. He consistently comes across as a partisan who can not appeal to both sides. Kennedy, Reagan and Clinton were brilliant at that, and is why they are great presidents. Obama is unable to rise above partisan politics. And there is nothing unique about the times. Politics has always been partisan, but some are better at overcoming that than others.Those of you who are critical of the speech: any specifics? Please name a sentence or phrase in the speech you did not like and explain why.
I am not sure who take less seriously: tim, gunz or Glenn Beck.
It would be interesting or at least informative to see some report from a neutral source at least reporting how the audience actually reacted.I am not sure who take less seriously: tim, gunz or Glenn Beck.
Those of you who are critical of the speech: any specifics? Please name a sentence or phrase in the speech you did not like and explain why.
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2010/05/obama_at_west_point_graduation.htmlThe international order we seek is one that can resolve the challenges of our times -- countering violent extremism and insurgency; stopping the spread of nuclear weapons and securing nuclear materials; combating a changing climate and sustaining global growth; helping countries feed themselves and care for their sick; preventing conflict and healing wounds.
Oh... say, like our 1st., 3rd and 4th Amendment rights to freedom of speech, privacy from state intrusion and freedom from seizure of our communications? Like that?We should not discard our freedoms because extremists try to exploit them.
Which part of that sentence do you object to? Personally I agree with all of it.Those of you who are critical of the speech: any specifics? Please name a sentence or phrase in the speech you did not like and explain why.http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2010/05/obama_at_west_point_graduation.htmlThe international order we seek is one that can resolve the challenges of our times -- countering violent extremism and insurgency; stopping the spread of nuclear weapons and securing nuclear materials; combating a changing climate and sustaining global growth; helping countries feed themselves and care for their sick; preventing conflict and healing wounds.
That apparently is this administration's military and foreign policy?
Again, your comments are based on a very subjective opinion about what the NSA is doing. Obviously Obama disagrees with you; IMO, with good reason. That does not make him a hypocrite, nor does it diminish the importance of his comment.This is a good one:
Oh... say, like our 1st., 3rd and 4th Amendment rights to freedom of speech, privacy from state intrusion and freedom from seizure of our communications? Like that?We should not discard our freedoms because extremists try to exploit them.
That Venus fly trap flower has eaten half of Tim's brain. No wonder she cannot be coherent.tim is the threadWhat exactly is the story here? .
Why would they vote for people that hate the military?I was in the military. I can tell you that the commanders in the military expect everyone to vote and be Republican. Mostly because it's job security for them. I would say if there were people there that support O most likely they were afraid to show it publicly.
It's not hate, it's seeing a different and probably diminished role for it. Of course that won't sit well with people who have spent their entire careers preparing for combat.Why would they vote for people that hate the military?I was in the military. I can tell you that the commanders in the military expect everyone to vote and be Republican. Mostly because it's job security for them. I would say if there were people there that support O most likely they were afraid to show it publicly.
Obama cut their pay, ended the GI bill which put many people from low income families through college for over 60 years, and seems to not be taking any real action on the VA mess. Basically they hate him because he treat people on welfare and people in prison better that the soldiers.What is it about Obama they dislike? The fact that he ended the wars and hasn't found any more brown people they can kill?I was in the military 20 years and currently work with them daily. I dont need a link to anything...No high ranking military officer is going to say that publicly anyway....Link to a military authority who has either said this or implied it in any way?The military doesnt like Obama, deal with it....
Because he truly dislikes the military?Obama cut their pay, ended the GI bill which put many people from low income families through college for over 60 years, and seems to not be taking any real action on the VA mess. Basically they hate him because he treat people on welfare and people in prison better that the soldiers.What is it about Obama they dislike? The fact that he ended the wars and hasn't found any more brown people they can kill?I was in the military 20 years and currently work with them daily. I dont need a link to anything...No high ranking military officer is going to say that publicly anyway....Link to a military authority who has either said this or implied it in any way?The military doesnt like Obama, deal with it....
Yeah you hear a lot about Obama being mediocre on MSNBC.Tim has been in full MSNBC spin mode lately. Just absolutely terrible.
So if "mediocre" is a solid C.Sp you have no specific criticism to offer?As to your comment, you're correct, I don't know when to stop. I think President Obama has been a mediocre President overall, but a terrific foreign policy President. I have consistently listed specific reasons why in this forum. If you disagree then I ask that you do the same. If you're unwilling or incapable of doing so, then I can only conclude that you have no idea what you're talking about.You never know when to stop!Those of you who are critical of the speech: any specifics? Please name a sentence or phrase in the speech you did not like and explain why.
Well, I don't approve of it.So if "mediocre" is a solid C.Sp you have no specific criticism to offer?As to your comment, you're correct, I don't know when to stop. I think President Obama has been a mediocre President overall, but a terrific foreign policy President. I have consistently listed specific reasons why in this forum. If you disagree then I ask that you do the same. If you're unwilling or incapable of doing so, then I can only conclude that you have no idea what you're talking about.You never know when to stop!Those of you who are critical of the speech: any specifics? Please name a sentence or phrase in the speech you did not like and explain why.
And foreign policy being "terrific" is an A, or A+
What does that mean his domestic policy has graded out as?
We need a fookin' grade! GIVE US A GRADE!Well, I don't approve of it.So if "mediocre" is a solid C.Sp you have no specific criticism to offer?As to your comment, you're correct, I don't know when to stop. I think President Obama has been a mediocre President overall, but a terrific foreign policy President. I have consistently listed specific reasons why in this forum. If you disagree then I ask that you do the same. If you're unwilling or incapable of doing so, then I can only conclude that you have no idea what you're talking about.You never know when to stop!Those of you who are critical of the speech: any specifics? Please name a sentence or phrase in the speech you did not like and explain why.
And foreign policy being "terrific" is an A, or A+
What does that mean his domestic policy has graded out as?
I know exactly what you mean. Whenever I see KoyaWhy would I ever bother wasting my time reading Glenn freakin Beck.
Like a number of posters here, you see the name before the quoted text and everything that follows just becomes instantly discounted. When you have zero respect for someone's opinion (and let's be honest, they've earned that distinction) it's hard to take anything seriously ( even if true).
To each their own.I know exactly what you mean. Whenever I see KoyaI roll my eyes and move onWhy would I ever bother wasting my time reading Glenn freakin Beck.
Like a number of posters here, you see the name before the quoted text and everything that follows just becomes instantly discounted. When you have zero respect for someone's opinion (and let's be honest, they've earned that distinction) it's hard to take anything seriously ( even if true).
No one hates war more than the soldiers that have to fight them. Just FYI...It's not hate, it's seeing a different and probably diminished role for it. Of course that won't sit well with people who have spent their entire careers preparing for combat.