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[StrikeS2k]

Occupy Oakland members vote to deposit $20,000 with Wells Fargo, one of the nation's biggest banksBy George AvalosOakland TribunePosted: 11/09/2011 07:02:54 AM PSTUpdated: 11/09/2011 07:02:56 AM PSTOccupy Oakland has voted to deposit $20,000 with Wells Fargo Bank -- just days after the bank's windows were smashed by Occupy protestors during the group's attempt to stage a general strike in Oakland.The decision was posted at Occupy Oakland's site for its general assembly. According to the link, the group made the decision to deposit the $20,000 with Wells at a meeting on Monday night.Wells Fargo quickly trumpeted the decision in emailed comments."If this report is true, it demonstrates that even Occupy Oakland understands -- first-hand -- the value and service that Wells Fargo provides its customers," Wells spokesman Ruben Pulido said.San Francisco-based Wells also took the occasion to refer to Occupy Oakland's support of 99 percent of Americans, which the group says as at a disadvantage when compared with the nation's richest 1 percent."Wells Fargo welcomes the 100 percent of Americans to allow us to help them meet their financial needs," Pulido said.The general assembly voted 162 to 8 to approve a proposal to place the money with Wells Fargo. The assembly minutes indicate that placement with Wells Fargo, to which the group has referred to as a "bankster," might be only temporary.The cash is to be used to assist in helping individuals who might have been jailed in connection with Occupy Oakland actions, the minutes of the general assembly stated. It wasn't immediately clear if the funds are already on deposit with Wells Fargo."It takes time to transfer funds to a credit union," one of the general assembly members stated on the Web site. "We need to help people in jail now."

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_19296946

 

[Rayderr]

Occupy Oakland members vote to deposit $20,000 with Wells Fargo, one of the nation's biggest banks

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_19296946

 

[bueno]

Occupy Oakland members vote to deposit $20,000 with Wells Fargo, one of the nation's biggest banks

By George Avalos

Oakland Tribune

Posted: 11/09/2011 07:02:54 AM PST

Updated: 11/09/2011 07:02:56 AM PST

Occupy Oakland has voted to deposit $20,000 with Wells Fargo Bank -- just days after the bank's windows were smashed by Occupy protestors during the group's attempt to stage a general strike in Oakland.

The decision was posted at Occupy Oakland's site for its general assembly. According to the link, the group made the decision to deposit the $20,000 with Wells at a meeting on Monday night.

Wells Fargo quickly trumpeted the decision in emailed comments.

"If this report is true, it demonstrates that even Occupy Oakland understands -- first-hand -- the value and service that Wells Fargo provides its customers," Wells spokesman Ruben Pulido said.

San Francisco-based Wells also took the occasion to refer to Occupy Oakland's support of 99 percent of Americans, which the group says as at a disadvantage when compared with the nation's richest 1 percent.

"Wells Fargo welcomes the 100 percent of Americans to allow us to help them meet their financial needs," Pulido said.

The general assembly voted 162 to 8 to approve a proposal to place the money with Wells Fargo. The assembly minutes indicate that placement with Wells Fargo, to which the group has referred to as a "bankster," might be only temporary.

The cash is to be used to assist in helping individuals who might have been jailed in connection with Occupy Oakland actions, the minutes of the general assembly stated. It wasn't immediately clear if the funds are already on deposit with Wells Fargo.

"It takes time to transfer funds to a credit union," one of the general assembly members stated on the Web site. "We need to help people in jail now."

http://www.mercuryne...ess/ci_19296946

Where did this $20,000 come from?

 

[bueno]

How do I contact "The Leader"....

I have come up with THE PLAN....

Dude... This is what "we" do.. We turn the Occupation into THE MARCH...

We all pick up our #### and start walking TO FLORIDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WARM WEATHER... Beaches, Bikini's... Lets do it, face it that's where the Evil bankers are now anyway... Boca.

We March Right thru Washington DC, Spend a little time there and then enjoy the weather as we move south... Staying outside in NYC right now is foolish... LETS GO!!!!

IMO, THIS is Genius.

Talk about Killing it!!! I Tweeted this to a number of OWS Twitters earlier in the week....

Occupy Listens to REAPER

... Now take that and keep going to FLORIDA!!!!!

Hit the road! Occupy guys on march to DC

Last Updated: 7:36 AM, November 9, 2011

Posted: 7:36 AM, November 9, 2011

The "Occupy The Highway" protesters are set to leave from New York's Zuccotti Park at noon and march on foot to the capital, covering an average 20 miles a day for the next two weeks.

They aim to reach Washington, D.C., by Nov. 23 -- when a congressional committee will be deciding whether or not to uphold Bush-era tax cuts.

"We will be in D.C. by Nov. 23 for the Congressional Super Committee meeting," the protesters wrote on the "Occupy Wall Street" website. "This committee has the power to keep the Bush tax cuts (that only benefit the top one percent) or let them expire. We want to be there to fight for the 99 percent!"

"We feel it's imperative for OWS [Occupy Wall Street] to respect and participate in the historical significance of long distance marches to support, promote and encourage economic and human equality," they added on the "Occupy The Highway" blog.

The protesters will be walking from 9:00am to 5:00pm each day -- what they call "banker hours."

They will be stopping at several towns and cities on their way to the capital including, Philadelphia, Newark and Baltimore, where they hope people will join their protest.

Why am I reminded of this?

 

[guderian]

Occupy Oakland members vote to deposit $20,000 with Wells Fargo, one of the nation's biggest banks

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_19296946

Maybe they'll turn it into $40k by trading commodity futures.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

How long until foreign governments start arming these imbeciles?

 

[Reaper]

Occupy Oakland members vote to deposit $20,000 with Wells Fargo, one of the nation's biggest banks

By George Avalos

Oakland Tribune

Posted: 11/09/2011 07:02:54 AM PST

Updated: 11/09/2011 07:02:56 AM PST

Occupy Oakland has voted to deposit $20,000 with Wells Fargo Bank -- just days after the bank's windows were smashed by Occupy protestors during the group's attempt to stage a general strike in Oakland.

The decision was posted at Occupy Oakland's site for its general assembly. According to the link, the group made the decision to deposit the $20,000 with Wells at a meeting on Monday night.

Wells Fargo quickly trumpeted the decision in emailed comments.

"If this report is true, it demonstrates that even Occupy Oakland understands -- first-hand -- the value and service that Wells Fargo provides its customers," Wells spokesman Ruben Pulido said.

San Francisco-based Wells also took the occasion to refer to Occupy Oakland's support of 99 percent of Americans, which the group says as at a disadvantage when compared with the nation's richest 1 percent.

"Wells Fargo welcomes the 100 percent of Americans to allow us to help them meet their financial needs," Pulido said.

The general assembly voted 162 to 8 to approve a proposal to place the money with Wells Fargo. The assembly minutes indicate that placement with Wells Fargo, to which the group has referred to as a "bankster," might be only temporary.

The cash is to be used to assist in helping individuals who might have been jailed in connection with Occupy Oakland actions, the minutes of the general assembly stated. It wasn't immediately clear if the funds are already on deposit with Wells Fargo.

"It takes time to transfer funds to a credit union," one of the general assembly members stated on the Web site. "We need to help people in jail now."

http://www.mercuryne...ess/ci_19296946

Where did this $20,000 come from?

Donations.. OWS is approaching a Million Dollars in funds.

So much easier to just cut a check than actually sleep out in the cold for months.

Perfect for the Hollywood liberal types...

 

[Reaper]

How do I contact "The Leader"....

I have come up with THE PLAN....

Dude... This is what "we" do.. We turn the Occupation into THE MARCH...

We all pick up our #### and start walking TO FLORIDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WARM WEATHER... Beaches, Bikini's... Lets do it, face it that's where the Evil bankers are now anyway... Boca.

We March Right thru Washington DC, Spend a little time there and then enjoy the weather as we move south... Staying outside in NYC right now is foolish... LETS GO!!!!

IMO, THIS is Genius.

Talk about Killing it!!! I Tweeted this to a number of OWS Twitters earlier in the week....

Occupy Listens to REAPER

... Now take that and keep going to FLORIDA!!!!!

Hit the road! Occupy guys on march to DC

Last Updated: 7:36 AM, November 9, 2011

Posted: 7:36 AM, November 9, 2011

The "Occupy The Highway" protesters are set to leave from New York's Zuccotti Park at noon and march on foot to the capital, covering an average 20 miles a day for the next two weeks.

They aim to reach Washington, D.C., by Nov. 23 -- when a congressional committee will be deciding whether or not to uphold Bush-era tax cuts.

"We will be in D.C. by Nov. 23 for the Congressional Super Committee meeting," the protesters wrote on the "Occupy Wall Street" website. "This committee has the power to keep the Bush tax cuts (that only benefit the top one percent) or let them expire. We want to be there to fight for the 99 percent!"

"We feel it's imperative for OWS [Occupy Wall Street] to respect and participate in the historical significance of long distance marches to support, promote and encourage economic and human equality," they added on the "Occupy The Highway" blog.

The protesters will be walking from 9:00am to 5:00pm each day -- what they call "banker hours."

They will be stopping at several towns and cities on their way to the capital including, Philadelphia, Newark and Baltimore, where they hope people will join their protest.

Why am I reminded of this?

Just came up with another GREAT idea....

These people could really use a big Trailor with a BBQ set up to feed a lot of people....

If Only I knew an Obama-ish supporter with the funds and such a trailor.

think of the advertising.

 

[Rayderr]

How do I contact "The Leader"....

I have come up with THE PLAN....

Dude... This is what "we" do.. We turn the Occupation into THE MARCH...

We all pick up our #### and start walking TO FLORIDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WARM WEATHER... Beaches, Bikini's... Lets do it, face it that's where the Evil bankers are now anyway... Boca.

We March Right thru Washington DC, Spend a little time there and then enjoy the weather as we move south... Staying outside in NYC right now is foolish... LETS GO!!!!

IMO, THIS is Genius.

Talk about Killing it!!! I Tweeted this to a number of OWS Twitters earlier in the week....

Occupy Listens to REAPER

... Now take that and keep going to FLORIDA!!!!!

Hit the road! Occupy guys on march to DC

Last Updated: 7:36 AM, November 9, 2011

Posted: 7:36 AM, November 9, 2011

The "Occupy The Highway" protesters are set to leave from New York's Zuccotti Park at noon and march on foot to the capital, covering an average 20 miles a day for the next two weeks.

They aim to reach Washington, D.C., by Nov. 23 -- when a congressional committee will be deciding whether or not to uphold Bush-era tax cuts.

"We will be in D.C. by Nov. 23 for the Congressional Super Committee meeting," the protesters wrote on the "Occupy Wall Street" website. "This committee has the power to keep the Bush tax cuts (that only benefit the top one percent) or let them expire. We want to be there to fight for the 99 percent!"

"We feel it's imperative for OWS [Occupy Wall Street] to respect and participate in the historical significance of long distance marches to support, promote and encourage economic and human equality," they added on the "Occupy The Highway" blog.

The protesters will be walking from 9:00am to 5:00pm each day -- what they call "banker hours."

They will be stopping at several towns and cities on their way to the capital including, Philadelphia, Newark and Baltimore, where they hope people will join their protest.

Why am I reminded of this?

I was thinking more "Trail of Tears"

 

[bueno]

Occupy Oakland members vote to deposit $20,000 with Wells Fargo, one of the nation's biggest banks

By George Avalos

Oakland Tribune

Posted: 11/09/2011 07:02:54 AM PST

Updated: 11/09/2011 07:02:56 AM PST

Occupy Oakland has voted to deposit $20,000 with Wells Fargo Bank -- just days after the bank's windows were smashed by Occupy protestors during the group's attempt to stage a general strike in Oakland.

The decision was posted at Occupy Oakland's site for its general assembly. According to the link, the group made the decision to deposit the $20,000 with Wells at a meeting on Monday night.

Wells Fargo quickly trumpeted the decision in emailed comments.

"If this report is true, it demonstrates that even Occupy Oakland understands -- first-hand -- the value and service that Wells Fargo provides its customers," Wells spokesman Ruben Pulido said.

San Francisco-based Wells also took the occasion to refer to Occupy Oakland's support of 99 percent of Americans, which the group says as at a disadvantage when compared with the nation's richest 1 percent.

"Wells Fargo welcomes the 100 percent of Americans to allow us to help them meet their financial needs," Pulido said.

The general assembly voted 162 to 8 to approve a proposal to place the money with Wells Fargo. The assembly minutes indicate that placement with Wells Fargo, to which the group has referred to as a "bankster," might be only temporary.

The cash is to be used to assist in helping individuals who might have been jailed in connection with Occupy Oakland actions, the minutes of the general assembly stated. It wasn't immediately clear if the funds are already on deposit with Wells Fargo.

"It takes time to transfer funds to a credit union," one of the general assembly members stated on the Web site. "We need to help people in jail now."

http://www.mercuryne...ess/ci_19296946

Where did this $20,000 come from?

Donations.. OWS is approaching a Million Dollars in funds.

So much easier to just cut a check than actually sleep out in the cold for months.

Perfect for the Hollywood liberal types...

Donations from whom?

 

[bueno]

How do I contact "The Leader"....

I have come up with THE PLAN....

Dude... This is what "we" do.. We turn the Occupation into THE MARCH...

We all pick up our #### and start walking TO FLORIDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WARM WEATHER... Beaches, Bikini's... Lets do it, face it that's where the Evil bankers are now anyway... Boca.

We March Right thru Washington DC, Spend a little time there and then enjoy the weather as we move south... Staying outside in NYC right now is foolish... LETS GO!!!!

IMO, THIS is Genius.

Talk about Killing it!!! I Tweeted this to a number of OWS Twitters earlier in the week....

Occupy Listens to REAPER

... Now take that and keep going to FLORIDA!!!!!

Hit the road! Occupy guys on march to DC

Last Updated: 7:36 AM, November 9, 2011

Posted: 7:36 AM, November 9, 2011

The "Occupy The Highway" protesters are set to leave from New York's Zuccotti Park at noon and march on foot to the capital, covering an average 20 miles a day for the next two weeks.

They aim to reach Washington, D.C., by Nov. 23 -- when a congressional committee will be deciding whether or not to uphold Bush-era tax cuts.

"We will be in D.C. by Nov. 23 for the Congressional Super Committee meeting," the protesters wrote on the "Occupy Wall Street" website. "This committee has the power to keep the Bush tax cuts (that only benefit the top one percent) or let them expire. We want to be there to fight for the 99 percent!"

"We feel it's imperative for OWS [Occupy Wall Street] to respect and participate in the historical significance of long distance marches to support, promote and encourage economic and human equality," they added on the "Occupy The Highway" blog.

The protesters will be walking from 9:00am to 5:00pm each day -- what they call "banker hours."

They will be stopping at several towns and cities on their way to the capital including, Philadelphia, Newark and Baltimore, where they hope people will join their protest.

Why am I reminded of this?

Just came up with another GREAT idea....

These people could really use a big Trailor with a BBQ set up to feed a lot of people....

If Only I knew an Obama-ish supporter with the funds and such a trailor.

think of the advertising.

And they have a million dollars to spend on the trip!

 

[Widbil83]

Occupy Oakland members vote to deposit $20,000 with Wells Fargo, one of the nation's biggest banksBy George AvalosOakland TribunePosted: 11/09/2011 07:02:54 AM PSTUpdated: 11/09/2011 07:02:56 AM PSTOccupy Oakland has voted to deposit $20,000 with Wells Fargo Bank -- just days after the bank's windows were smashed by Occupy protestors during the group's attempt to stage a general strike in Oakland.The decision was posted at Occupy Oakland's site for its general assembly. According to the link, the group made the decision to deposit the $20,000 with Wells at a meeting on Monday night.Wells Fargo quickly trumpeted the decision in emailed comments."If this report is true, it demonstrates that even Occupy Oakland understands -- first-hand -- the value and service that Wells Fargo provides its customers," Wells spokesman Ruben Pulido said.San Francisco-based Wells also took the occasion to refer to Occupy Oakland's support of 99 percent of Americans, which the group says as at a disadvantage when compared with the nation's richest 1 percent."Wells Fargo welcomes the 100 percent of Americans to allow us to help them meet their financial needs," Pulido said.The general assembly voted 162 to 8 to approve a proposal to place the money with Wells Fargo. The assembly minutes indicate that placement with Wells Fargo, to which the group has referred to as a "bankster," might be only temporary.The cash is to be used to assist in helping individuals who might have been jailed in connection with Occupy Oakland actions, the minutes of the general assembly stated. It wasn't immediately clear if the funds are already on deposit with Wells Fargo."It takes time to transfer funds to a credit union," one of the general assembly members stated on the Web site. "We need to help people in jail now."

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_19296946

They gotta put the money some place safe. Even these morons know if they left it in their occupy camp over night it would be gone by morning.

 

[Jobber]

I am just wondering, is this why Germany and France didn't want Greece to leave the Eurozone? That they can then just print lots of worthless notes to pay off their debt to the European banks?

1. France is heavily invested in Greece and it would hurt them really badly. France might default if Greece leaves.2. It would instantly create severely doubt in the long-term viability of the Eurozone. Other at-risk countries like Italy, Portugal, and Ireland would be seen as MUCH higher risk. Their interest rates would rise even higher to compensate, pushing them even closer to default.

If Greece leaves, it stands a good chance of creating a cascade effect that brings down Europe. Any attempt to have Greece leave would have to be executed in a very careful, measured, orderly fashion to not create panic.

I think that this is the only viable long term solution to Europe's problems. The Euro was a nice try, but will not work. They have to start planning on disbanding the Euro for lack of a better term.

Not even close. Greece may leave, but the € will persist. I think the likelihood of Greece leaving is under 50% right now, and I think that Italy, Spain, Ireland, and Portugal will eventually get a handle on their balance sheets. It will likely result in MORE European cooperation, not a breakup of the €.

Care to redress?

 

[Christo]

Walk through Occupy Chicago today. There might have been 12 people there.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Interesting article in Forbes. This is the part I found noteworthy:

The idealistic, studenty, ultra-left-wing quality of the Zuccotti proceedings has attracted nutritious, restaurant-caliber meals, large donations of clothing and other goods and large cash balances. All of this private charity is very much in the tradition of free enterprise, but the political types have been unnerved by the increasing presence of ordinary apolitical homeless people who don’t know much about satiric anti-capitalist puppetry, but would very much enjoy a sandwich.

OWS has been shocked to discover these folk aren’t “contributing” anything (nothing important, anyway, like slogans or resolutions), and derided them as “professional homeless people” (to distinguish them from the amateur kind). Food preparers instigated what one protester called “blacklisting” of such individuals to keep them from sharing the bounty the “productive” members of the movement have secured.

This is a crucial battle between inactivists and activists. Consider this comment on the official OWS forum:

The money was sent for the protesters, not panhandlers. The protesters want jobs, but can’t find any. Panhandlers (In my experience, flame away) don’t want jobs. There is a difference for all the fogies spewing about hypocrisy. We should not allow people’s good intentions to be taken advantage of by miscreants and other parasites.

But exactly! Having granted the principle that you must be willing to work if you want to eat, OWS has done all the heavy lifting for those who would question whether the policies of social-democratic welfare states are even moral, much less practical. (OWS hasn’t yet run out of donated pizzas, but Europe proves you will eventually run out of other people’s money).

 

[urbanhack]

Walk through Occupy Chicago today. There might have been 12 people there.

Thanks for stopping by to say hi.

 

[Christo]

Walk through Occupy Chicago today. There might have been 12 people there.

Thanks for stopping by to say hi.

Do you know what's missing from Occupy --------- ? Name tags!

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

some sorta "march" from NYC to Washington planned?

That's all sorts of tasty

The Mayor should put fences around the park after they depart. Or move in some homeless folks.

 

[urbanhack]

Walk through Occupy Chicago today. There might have been 12 people there.

Thanks for stopping by to say hi.

Do you know what's missing from Occupy --------- ? Name tags!

well, I'm not there. I'm over at LaSalle & Van Buren hanging with the 1%. Drop me a line next time.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Look at them absolutely #### that poor li'l asian girl up...

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Look at them absolutely #### that poor li'l asian girl up...http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=buovLQ9qyWQ

why were they crowdin the cops with the sticks? Seems sorta like putting your hand as close to a flame as possible for the sake of it.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

the asian dude in the bush got the worst of it, imo

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Look at them absolutely #### that poor li'l asian girl up...http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=buovLQ9qyWQ

why were they crowdin the cops with the sticks? Seems sorta like putting your hand as close to a flame as possible for the sake of it.

Doesnt really matter, they're locked arm-in-arm in peaceful protest.Though, they had their belongings a few feet away in a park, and the cops came in and tried to keep them separated them from their belongings.

 

[Widbil83]

Look at them absolutely #### that poor li'l asian girl up...http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=buovLQ9qyWQ

That dork in glasses antagonizing them is lucky he didn't get cracked in the head.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Look at them absolutely #### that poor li'l asian girl up...http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=buovLQ9qyWQ

why were they crowdin the cops with the sticks? Seems sorta like putting your hand as close to a flame as possible for the sake of it.

Doesnt really matter, they're locked arm-in-arm in peaceful protest.Though, they had their belongings a few feet away in a park, and the cops came in and tried to keep them separated them from their belongings.

maybe we should ban "peaceful protest" then. for public safety reasons.Because the risk/reward for this kids seems pretty doom and gloom. They are achieving absolutely nothing and getting beat the #### up for it.

 

[Zeff]

Look at them absolutely #### that poor li'l asian girl up...http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=buovLQ9qyWQ

why were they crowdin the cops with the sticks? Seems sorta like putting your hand as close to a flame as possible for the sake of it.

Doesnt really matter, they're locked arm-in-arm in peaceful protest.Though, they had their belongings a few feet away in a park, and the cops came in and tried to keep them separated them from their belongings.

maybe we should ban "peaceful protest" then.

Seems like a pretty typically conservative response to state brutality.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Look at them absolutely #### that poor li'l asian girl up...http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=buovLQ9qyWQ

why were they crowdin the cops with the sticks? Seems sorta like putting your hand as close to a flame as possible for the sake of it.

Doesnt really matter, they're locked arm-in-arm in peaceful protest.Though, they had their belongings a few feet away in a park, and the cops came in and tried to keep them separated them from their belongings.

maybe we should ban "peaceful protest" then. for public safety reasons.Because the risk/reward for this kids seems pretty doom and gloom. They are achieving absolutely nothing and getting beat the #### up for it.

#### that. they need to keep on shining, those crazy diamonds.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

every week or so I check in here and ask the same question:

What's been accomplished other than "awareness" of "stuff" (and a bunch of claimed police brutality beatings)?

What's the end game here? The election?

Unless they move south to Washington (which appears to be the plan maybe?) the NYC faction is going to dwindle very very quickly once the cold weather hits.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Look at them absolutely #### that poor li'l asian girl up...http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=buovLQ9qyWQ

why were they crowdin the cops with the sticks? Seems sorta like putting your hand as close to a flame as possible for the sake of it.

Doesnt really matter, they're locked arm-in-arm in peaceful protest.Though, they had their belongings a few feet away in a park, and the cops came in and tried to keep them separated them from their belongings.

maybe we should ban "peaceful protest" then.

Seems like a pretty typically conservative response to state brutality.

today's American conservatives are pro-fascism. not really debatable. (though it should get a laughie emoticon)

 

[St. Louis Bob]

Interesting article in Forbes. This is the part I found noteworthy:

The idealistic, studenty, ultra-left-wing quality of the Zuccotti proceedings has attracted nutritious, restaurant-caliber meals, large donations of clothing and other goods and large cash balances. All of this private charity is very much in the tradition of free enterprise, but the political types have been unnerved by the increasing presence of ordinary apolitical homeless people who don’t know much about satiric anti-capitalist puppetry, but would very much enjoy a sandwich.

OWS has been shocked to discover these folk aren’t “contributing” anything (nothing important, anyway, like slogans or resolutions), and derided them as “professional homeless people” (to distinguish them from the amateur kind). Food preparers instigated what one protester called “blacklisting” of such individuals to keep them from sharing the bounty the “productive” members of the movement have secured.

This is a crucial battle between inactivists and activists. Consider this comment on the official OWS forum:

The money was sent for the protesters, not panhandlers. The protesters want jobs, but can’t find any. Panhandlers (In my experience, flame away) don’t want jobs. There is a difference for all the fogies spewing about hypocrisy. We should not allow people’s good intentions to be taken advantage of by miscreants and other parasites.

But exactly! Having granted the principle that you must be willing to work if you want to eat, OWS has done all the heavy lifting for those who would question whether the policies of social-democratic welfare states are even moral, much less practical. (OWS hasn’t yet run out of donated pizzas, but Europe proves you will eventually run out of other people’s money).

pricelessETA

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Look at them absolutely #### that poor li'l asian girl up...http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=buovLQ9qyWQ

why were they crowdin the cops with the sticks? Seems sorta like putting your hand as close to a flame as possible for the sake of it.

Doesnt really matter, they're locked arm-in-arm in peaceful protest.Though, they had their belongings a few feet away in a park, and the cops came in and tried to keep them separated them from their belongings.

maybe we should ban "peaceful protest" then.

Seems like a pretty typically conservative response to state brutality.

maybe we should riot and f up a few cops, you know, to set things straight!!@Screw those guys. They are just a pawn of Walmart, Microsoft and the other big Corporations.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

every week or so I check in here and ask the same question:

What's been accomplished other than "awareness" of "stuff" (and a bunch of claimed police brutality beatings)?

What's the end game here? The election?

Unless they move south to Washington (which appears to be the plan maybe?) the NYC faction is going to dwindle very very quickly once the cold weather hits.

They aren't organized to a single theme and organization (no kochs here). and yes, it may dwindle. awareness is very key in todays propagandized environment. you have to start somewhere and simply gain traction.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

If they were smart, they'd put the homeless hangers-on in the Vanguard to take the first wave of batons.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

If they were smart, they'd put the homeless hangers-on in the Vanguard to take the first wave of batons.

they arent organizing for physical confrontation. they handled it very well.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

every week or so I check in here and ask the same question:

What's been accomplished other than "awareness" of "stuff" (and a bunch of claimed police brutality beatings)?

What's the end game here? The election?

Unless they move south to Washington (which appears to be the plan maybe?) the NYC faction is going to dwindle very very quickly once the cold weather hits.

They aren't organized to a single theme and organization (no kocks here). and yes, it may dwindle. awareness is very key in todays propagandized environment. you have to start somewhere and simply gain traction.

Taking beatings for an unclear or not existent message or goals is just silly. Like a martyr without a message.Take a pointed shot at lobbiest. March on Washington and demand accountability on that front. Make some hay.

The rest of this just like a bunch of dumb, unorganized and unmotivated kids pitching a fit because they think that's what you are supposed to do when "protesting". I wonder what the great Dr. King would think of these folks.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

If they were smart, they'd put the homeless hangers-on in the Vanguard to take the first wave of batons.

they arent organizing for physical confrontation. they handled it very well.

why the locked arms? what's the goal there?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

If they were smart, they'd put the homeless hangers-on in the Vanguard to take the first wave of batons.

they arent organizing for physical confrontation. they handled it very well.

why the locked arms? what's the goal there?

to show they are defenseless and not being physically imposing towards anyone.you have gone full Troll-mode now though.

pretty common for peaceful protestors... as it also lends ea other stability (equilibrium /standing for long periods).

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

If they were smart, they'd put the homeless hangers-on in the Vanguard to take the first wave of batons.

they arent organizing for physical confrontation. they handled it very well.

why the locked arms? what's the goal there?

to show they are defenseless and not being physically imposing towards anyone.you have gone full Troll-mode now though.

locked arms = wall of peoplewall of people = imposing

Cops do the same exact thing to control crowds, no?

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

If they were smart, they'd put the homeless hangers-on in the Vanguard to take the first wave of batons.

they arent organizing for physical confrontation. they handled it very well.

why the locked arms? what's the goal there?

to show they are defenseless and not being physically imposing towards anyone.you have gone full Troll-mode now though.

pretty common for peaceful protestors... as it also lends ea other stability (equilibrium /standing for long periods).

I would have replied:"symbolism. To show solidarity/unity".

makes a lot more sense.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Yeah, but who really gives a #### what you think... especially after you think its fine to blast that girl with the baton repeatedly and then insinuate about her being the cause and what she did wrong.... because she was peacefully protesting, which according to you, should be made illegal.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Yeah, but who really gives a #### what you think... especially after you think its fine to blast that girl with the baton repeatedly and then insinuate about her being the cause and what she did wrong.... because she was peacefully protesting, which according to you, should be made illegal.

If she was home writing to her congresswoman, attending various open forums, doing something remotely constructive instead, she doesn't get the baton.

 

[Mello]

If they were smart, they'd put the homeless hangers-on in the Vanguard to take the first wave of batons.

they arent organizing for physical confrontation. they handled it very well.

why the locked arms? what's the goal there?

to show they are defenseless and not being physically imposing towards anyone.you have gone full Troll-mode now though.

pretty common for peaceful protestors... as it also lends ea other stability (equilibrium /standing for long periods).

I would have replied:"symbolism. To show solidarity/unity".

makes a lot more sense.

in reality it helps keep people from preemptively attacking the cops and also makes the cops use a higher level of violence to break them up a arrest individuals. Makes for better PR and does make the police think twice before attacking.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Yeah, but who really gives a #### what you think... especially after you think its fine to blast that girl with the baton repeatedly and then insinuate about her being the cause and what she did wrong.... because she was peacefully protesting, which according to you, should be made illegal.

If she was home writing to her congresswoman, attending various open forums, doing something remotely constructive instead, she doesn't get the baton.

That's a big part of the problem.... the congresswoman is bought and paid for. Money has superseded Votes.It just may take "getting the baton" to effect the needed change to America away from corporate-fascism.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

If they were smart, they'd put the homeless hangers-on in the Vanguard to take the first wave of batons.

they arent organizing for physical confrontation. they handled it very well.

why the locked arms? what's the goal there?

to show they are defenseless and not being physically imposing towards anyone.you have gone full Troll-mode now though.

pretty common for peaceful protestors... as it also lends ea other stability (equilibrium /standing for long periods).

I would have replied:"symbolism. To show solidarity/unity".

makes a lot more sense.

in reality it helps keep people from preemptively attacking the cops and also makes the cops use a higher level of violence to break them up a arrest individuals. Makes for better PR and does make the police think twice before attacking.

He wasn't "thinking"... he is simply mocking and ridiculing wherever he can.

 

[Mello]

Yeah, but who really gives a #### what you think... especially after you think its fine to blast that girl with the baton repeatedly and then insinuate about her being the cause and what she did wrong.... because she was peacefully protesting, which according to you, should be made illegal.

If she was home writing to her congresswoman, attending various open forums, doing something remotely constructive instead, she doesn't get the baton.

And accomplishing even less. That much of the point. Her congresswoman likely couldn't give a damn about what she or most of her constituents want. She will do whatever she has to do to keep the special interest money coming in so she can throw ads everywhere next election. People vote for who they see more. It's the main reason so many incumbents get reelected even though the people despise Congress.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Yeah, but who really gives a #### what you think... especially after you think its fine to blast that girl with the baton repeatedly and then insinuate about her being the cause and what she did wrong.... because she was peacefully protesting, which according to you, should be made illegal.

If she was home writing to her congresswoman, attending various open forums, doing something remotely constructive instead, she doesn't get the baton.

That's a big part of the problem.... the congresswoman is bought and paid for. Money has superseded Votes.It just may take "getting the baton" to effect the needed change to America away from corporate-fascism.

is the premise that all lawmakers are bought and paid for? If so, a full-on rebellion is the only fix, no?What do we burn first, the banks or the courthouses?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Yeah, but who really gives a #### what you think... especially after you think its fine to blast that girl with the baton repeatedly and then insinuate about her being the cause and what she did wrong.... because she was peacefully protesting, which according to you, should be made illegal.

If she was home writing to her congresswoman, attending various open forums, doing something remotely constructive instead, she doesn't get the baton.

There's probably some dinner to make and some laundry to clean on the wash board, too.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Yeah, but who really gives a #### what you think... especially after you think its fine to blast that girl with the baton repeatedly and then insinuate about her being the cause and what she did wrong.... because she was peacefully protesting, which according to you, should be made illegal.

If she was home writing to her congresswoman, attending various open forums, doing something remotely constructive instead, she doesn't get the baton.

That's a big part of the problem.... the congresswoman is bought and paid for. Money has superseded Votes.It just may take "getting the baton" to effect the needed change to America away from corporate-fascism.

is the premise that all lawmakers are bought and paid for? If so, a full-on rebellion is the only fix, no?What do we burn first, the banks or the courthouses?

The brothels

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Yeah, but who really gives a #### what you think... especially after you think its fine to blast that girl with the baton repeatedly and then insinuate about her being the cause and what she did wrong.... because she was peacefully protesting, which according to you, should be made illegal.

If she was home writing to her congresswoman, attending various open forums, doing something remotely constructive instead, she doesn't get the baton.

That's a big part of the problem.... the congresswoman is bought and paid for. Money has superseded Votes.It just may take "getting the baton" to effect the needed change to America away from corporate-fascism.

is the premise that all lawmakers are bought and paid for? If so, a full-on rebellion is the only fix, no?What do we burn first, the banks or the courthouses?

Dont act like you are trying to help.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

maybe all the dissatisfied folks can move to Texas/Ariona/New Mexico/Southern Cal and start up a New Republic or something. Put the 1% of the 99% who actually care about this nonsense together in one spot. Maybe even build a wall to keep the rich folks out.

I've got a decent life, my kids should end up having a tolerable one too. We don't need no Cal baton magnets mucking that up.