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Oddsmaker: Divisional playoffs (1 Viewer)

Ministry of Pain

Footballguy
Interesting week we have brewing. Last week I felt I had the easiest play on the board as did 90% of America apparently. Vegas took a bath and watched Baltimore run KC out of the building in the 2nd half of the game winning 30-7 and easily covering the -3.

This week I can argue several ways and I want to explore them and talk about them with all of you. Do you realize we are possibly 48-72 hours away from Seattle hosting the NFC Championship? Think about it. Or Baltimore hosting the AFC Championship. A lot of people feel the money to be mad eis on the home teams that had the week off and I’m not so sure.



Baltimore at Pittsburgh (-3.5) (37)

I really want to take Baltimore again this week. The games are always close and I could make a strong argument that Baltimore should have won the last contest these two played earlier in the season. Ed Reed seems to be healthy and Baltimore didn’t expend that much energy last week. It wasn’t a nail biter down to the wire and their defense made guest appearances in the 2nd half to force a turnover and then go back and sit on the bench. Do you believe in karma? Should Big Ben be allowed to advance further into the playoffs by the powers that be? Remember what they did to Vick last week?

None of that really matters but its food for thought. My problem in this game is I feel Ben is a superior QB to Flacco right now. The Ravens are not going to win running the football all day so you have to assume they go to the air where they have weapons and can use Ray Rice a lot out of the backfield as well. Ray Lewis called Anquan Boldin the minute they traded for him and said to him “The game is in Dallas”…obviously he was talking about the Super Bowl. These types of teams have one goal and only one. To win the Super Bowl. It’s unfortunate that Baltimore plays in the same division with Pittsburgh or otherwise they might have been the 1 or 2 seed in this thing. As I pointed out last week, the Ravens could have been 14-2 or 15-1 this season so they are an elite team. This is not a typical wildcard got lucky and backed into things type of team.

I haven’t spoken much about the Steelers but the reality is they have a great opportunity to win this football game. My problem is with Mendenhall right now. Let’s compare offenses. The Steelers have a better QB but I think Rice/McGahee is much better than the backfield in Pittsburgh plus the OL is stronger for Baltimore. The receivers are close. Heap is playing much better than Heath Miller right now but is there anyone as fast on the Ravens as there is on the Steelers at the WR position? Is Hines Ward and Derrick Mason a draw? These teams are very similar so why not take the points?

Final Score: Baltimore 20…Pittsburgh 17



Green Bay at Atlanta (-2.5) (43.5)

This is a game I want to watch more than I want to bet on it. Is there a reason the over is a bad bet on this game? Atlanta has had 2 weeks to prepare and rest, the Packers have plenty of offense. The Packers are the last team to throw for over 300 yards against Atlanta and I think they will find their spots this week. In fact the more I look at this game and despite the contest being 20-17 last time, that is actually a blessing as Atlanta against good teams tend to hit the over. This year...NO (48), PHI(51), TB(48 and 52), BAL (47), StL(51), SEA(52)…they have had some weeks where they didn’t need ot score as much either but Green Bay should require that they aim for at least 27-30 in this contest. I like the over better than trying to figure who wins this game.

Final Score: 31-24 either way.



Seattle at Chicago (-10) (41)

Seattle is abysmal on the road. These are all losses…@Den 31-14, @St L 20-3, @Oak 33-3, @NO 34-19, @SF 40-21, and @TB 38-15…the problem is one of their only road wins this season was @Chicago 23-20…kind of weird. Seattle after the game last week was exuberant and saying things like what a great opp this was to beat the world champs in the playoffs…the point is they feel like they won the Super bowl last week and a bone chilling 10 degrees with wind is waiting for them in Chicago. New Orleans is built to win in a dome and they played no defense last week. Do you really think Marshawn Lynch would break that run off vs Brian Urlacher and Lance Briggs? I sure don’t. So while I don’t love Chicago I really can’t come up with many reasons to want to bet on Seattle other than to just be different or start the “We believe” chant. I really am not a huge fan of Chicago but luck seems to be with them this season and they could easily be hosting Green Bay next week in a game that would draw a bonanza for ratings. The Bears have a strong coaching staff with a lot of head coaching experience from top to bottom so that has to help this week with 2 weeks to prepare. I think they go back and find what they did wrong in the first game and make those corrections.

Final Score: Chicago 24…Seattle 10



New York Jets at New England (-9) (45)

There will be a football game here this weekend, right? I keep reading about it being personal for Rex Ryan, and Wes Welker making foot references, and all this is a distraction to avert attention from Sanchez…JC just play the flipping football game already. These two teams are probably equally hated by many and for some if there was a way both teams could lose this football game we would like to see it. I do know Bill Bellichick is an excellent game planner and will have his team ready to walk on water this weekend as they make a Super bowl run. Did the Pats arrive early though? Are they really as good as that record? Yes and no. They don’t make mistakes, it’s really that simple. They are like a wall you hit a ball off of, eventually the wall wins out. Tom Brady has not thrown an interception since Reagan was in office it seems. My gut says take the under and leave the line alone but I understand why folks are grabbing the Pats. 45-24, 45-3, 36-7, 34-3, 38-7…those are the scores in 5 of their last 6 games. They have avg roughly 36-37 points a game since week 8. Maybe the over is the easy play here but I don’t see the Jets scoring a lot of points and moving Wilfork around much to create running lanes. They lost Woody for the rest of the season on the OL and they simply are not a great running team despite the fact they like to run it a lot. Sanchez is going to have to make some plays to win the game and in doing so he probably will turn the ball over and make things even worse. Brady vs Sanchez, you tell me.

Final Score: New England 24…New York 13

My pick 3 this week and I encourage you to post yours for bragging rights are...

Balt +3.5

GB/ATL 43.5 Over

CHI/SEA 41 Under

Good luck everyone and protect your units.

 
I like that CHI/SEA 41 Under
I will say though that tying to find the last playoff game in Chicago to hit the under is hard to do...I just scrolled through the last decade and every home playoff game they have had with Urlacher and company...over every time. Kind of scary and I hadn't really searched back through. I still think I like the under.Nothing seems like sure money this week.

 
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I'm liking the BAL/PIT over (just to go against the grain)

I really like the ATL/GB over

That's all I have right now.

 
I've won betting the under the past two weeks with Green Bay, while most of the public money has been on the over in both games. I think people are focusing on the great storyline of these two QB's, and overlooking the fact that both teams are in the top 5 in the NFL in scoring defense over 16 games. I think both teams will focus on ball-control tomorrow. I'm waiting for the number to go up a bit between now and Saturday evening, then jumping in on the under, and will likely parlay it with a few other sides and ML bets.

Also, I wish I could get the hook with Baltimore, but Sportsbook.com is stuck on 3 so I'm leaving that one alone.

 
CletiusMaximus said:
I've won betting the under the past two weeks with Green Bay, while most of the public money has been on the over in both games. I think people are focusing on the great storyline of these two QB's, and overlooking the fact that both teams are in the top 5 in the NFL in scoring defense over 16 games. I think both teams will focus on ball-control tomorrow. I'm waiting for the number to go up a bit between now and Saturday evening, then jumping in on the under, and will likely parlay it with a few other sides and ML bets.Also, I wish I could get the hook with Baltimore, but Sportsbook.com is stuck on 3 so I'm leaving that one alone.
Same here. Been betting the under on Green Bay and did again this week.
 
Chicago-10 mainly due to the Seahawk's pathetic road performance over the past few years. Someone has already mentioned Chicago's revenge factor. Chicago was also missing 2 key starters in that Seattle loss, Pro Bowl LB Lance Briggs on defense and they had to shuffle around the OL due to an injury to G Roberto Garza. The OL gave up 6 sacks that day. Since 2009 the Seahawks are just 3-13 SU on the road and all 13 losses have been by 11 pts or more. Since 2008 the Seahawks are just 5-19 SU on the road and 18 of those 19 losses were by 10 pts or more. This year, all 6 road losses were by 15 pts or more.

Atlanta -2.5 - The Falcons are 20-2 SU at home since 2008 when Matt Ryan starts, with the 2 losses being by 4 and 3 pts. All 6 of GB's losses this year have been by 4 pts or under though (3,3,3,3,4,4) ......which is worrisome, as is their new found rushing attack with James Starks explosion last week. GB defense playing well but as poorly as Vick played last week the Eagles still had a decent shot at winning, either on the last drive or with a better effort from Akers. I don't see the Falcons playing as poorly on offense, and they just seem to find a way to win at home.

Pittsburgh -3 Tough game to pick as the last 6 meetings have been decided by 3 pts 5 times and by 4 pts in the other with 2 going to OT. The Steelers seem to have the edge though at home winning 4 of the last 5 match-ups vs the Ravens with the lone loss being with Charlie Batch at QB. Pittsburgh 'D' will be the difference.

New England -9 Can't ignore how the Pats manhandled the Jets in the last meeting.

 
I like a 10 pt tease box around the Bal-Pitt game:

Bal +13.5

Pitt +6.5

u47

Going back the last three years those have been 3-4 pt games either side. Without fail.

On a side note, I'd much prefer it at Pitt -3 though which move their tease to +7. To me that's the only leg that will fall in that tease, if Bal wins by a TD+.

 
Chicago-10 mainly due to the Seahawk's pathetic road performance over the past few years. Someone has already mentioned Chicago's revenge factor. Chicago was also missing 2 key starters in that Seattle loss, Pro Bowl LB Lance Briggs on defense and they had to shuffle around the OL due to an injury to G Roberto Garza. The OL gave up 6 sacks that day. Since 2009 the Seahawks are just 3-13 SU on the road and all 13 losses have been by 11 pts or more. Since 2008 the Seahawks are just 5-19 SU on the road and 18 of those 19 losses were by 10 pts or more. This year, all 6 road losses were by 15 pts or more.

Atlanta -2.5 - The Falcons are 20-2 SU at home since 2008 when Matt Ryan starts, with the 2 losses being by 4 and 3 pts. All 6 of GB's losses this year have been by 4 pts or under though (3,3,3,3,4,4) ......which is worrisome, as is their new found rushing attack with James Starks explosion last week. GB defense playing well but as poorly as Vick played last week the Eagles still had a decent shot at winning, either on the last drive or with a better effort from Akers. I don't see the Falcons playing as poorly on offense, and they just seem to find a way to win at home.

Pittsburgh -3 Tough game to pick as the last 6 meetings have been decided by 3 pts 5 times and by 4 pts in the other with 2 going to OT. The Steelers seem to have the edge though at home winning 4 of the last 5 match-ups vs the Ravens with the lone loss being with Charlie Batch at QB. Pittsburgh 'D' will be the difference.

New England -9 Can't ignore how the Pats manhandled the Jets in the last meeting.
Solid post

 
I like a 10 pt tease box around the Bal-Pitt game:Bal +13.5Pitt +6.5u47Going back the last three years those have been 3-4 pt games either side. Without fail.On a side note, I'd much prefer it at Pitt -3 though which move their tease to +7. To me that's the only leg that will fall in that tease, if Bal wins by a TD+.
As I mentioned on Lexy, teasing NE down to -2.5 and GB to +8.5 are great moves as they cover the 3 and 7 numbers, where over 50% of games fall. That makes a GB/NE 6-point teaser +EV IMHO.
 
Jeff Pasquino said:
I was 4-0 ATS and pretty much was in lock step with MoP last week.... but I don't think that trend continues this go-around.

Here's my take:

http://lexy.com/show/1011
The guy who interviews needs to not breathe so heavy into the mic. He sounds like he is very overweight.
:no: Yeah there's definitely some feedback on both ends of the conversation. Not the best quality recording this week as we did have some tech problems.Normally it sounds better, like the week prior:

http://lexy.com/p/189147

 
Here's a few stats for Divisional Play Off Week since re-alignment - we've got 8 years worth of form for this period

The NFC 1 seed has fared the best in this period, winning 6 and losing 2. The 2 road wins came in all NFC East clashes.

There have been 4 games between the NFC 1 and 6 seeds with the NFC 1 winning 3 of these.

The NFC 2 seed has won 5 and lost 3.

There have 2 games between the NFC 2 and 3 seed - 1 win each.

The NFC 2 seed game has consistently produced high points totals, the lowest game total in this period has been 37 - the average points per game is 49.875.

The AFC 1 seed has won 5 and lost 3.

There have been 3 games between the 1 and 6 seeds with the 6 seed winning 2.

The AFC 2 seed has won 4 and lost 4.

There has been 1 game between the 2 and 5 seed which was won by the 5 seeds.

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New York Jets at New England (-9) (45)
Jets getting 9???? Back the Sentra up!!! (I don't own a truck) Jets may not win but they will cover 9 points. This is going to come down to a field goal late.I think everyone agrees that the Jets can't keep up if it's a shootout and their only chance is to control the clock with their running game and keep Brady off the field. You could've said this exact same thing before the December game. But in that game, everything that could wrong for the Jets did go wrong. Don't underestimate the impact of losing Jim Leonard on the Friday before the game. He was the defensive QB and nobody knows Rex's system better than Leonard. On the Pats first drive they scored a field goal. Then the Jets mistakenly attempted a long field goal (bad call Rex) which missed and gave the Pats great field position. The Pats then score a TD. Then the Jets go 3 and out and are punting from their own 20 yard line. The Pats then take over at the JETS 32 yard line after a horrible punt by the Jets. Again with the short field, the Pats score another TD and go up by 17 points. The Jets defense was going to struggle anyways without Leonard and now the Pats had all the momentum and confidence. And as for the offense, instead of controlling the clock and just "ground and pound" they would need Sanchez to make plays instead of just "managing" the offense, and this is something he is not good at (to put it nicely) So just like that, a bad coaching decision (the long FG attempt) and a horrible punt put the Pats up 17-0 and the game was over at that point.

My point is that people are putting too much stock in that 45-3 game. That was a month ago and the Jets defense has adjusted to life without Leonard. As stated before, in order to win this game, the Jets NEED to run the ball and control the clock (like they did last week at Indy) The Jets absolutely can run the ball against the Pats. In their first matchup in September, LT and Greene combined to average 4.9 yards per carry and even in the blowout in December they combined to average 4.8 yards per carry. (that's just LT and Greene, I'm not counting Brad Smith or Sanchez runs) The Pats defensive line is beat up and the Jets (even without Woody) still have one of the best O-Lines in football. So the Jets should be able to control the line of scrimmage. The "ground and pound" attack should open up some nice play action opportunities for Sanchez who actually isn't bad when he's rolling out of the pocket. The Jets have to NOT make any mistakes (turnovers, coaching decisions, special teams) If they do that, then this game stays close throughout and I see either team winning by a score of 20-17.

I think there are some other factors are positives for the Jets tomorrow. They play better on the road than they do at home so I don't think the "home field advantage" will be that big for NE. They play better when people don't think they have a chance and I think this helps Sanchez tremendously because there is less pressure on him. When they are expected to win, I think that little bit of added pressure affects their performance. For whatever reason, they don't play well after having extended time off, they lost at home after their bye week and that Pats debacle in December came after the extended layoff after Thanksgiving. Coming off that Indy win, I think they carry that momentum with them. Despite Brady and Belichich's experience, this is a very young Pats team and many of their key players will be playing in their first playoff game tomorrow. And they just had a bye week and the last regular season game was really more like a pre-season game against Miami so they haven't really played in a meaningful game since week 16 against Buffalo and that was a blowout. The last time they were in a game that was close in the 2nd half was Green Bay and that was against a backup QB making his first start.

I see a close game the whole way and it gets decided in the last minute. Obviously, in that situation, EVERYONE would rather have Brady than Sanchez, so most likely it will be the Pats that pull it out, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Jets pulled it out. But from a betting perspective.... Love the Jets getting 9 points.

Good luck everyone and protect your units
Same advice my Dad gave to me and my brothers when we were young.
 
Picked the right teams, bombed on the Unders.

Not sure where I'm going with tomorrows games yet.

 
Atlanta looks like the bet of the week due to the public's overrated opinion of GB.
ahem....well, sometimes Vegas is very wrong......the public not so much...
Yeah I'm in a big money weekly pick em pool with a buddy, and without fail he always is adamant about fading the public when they love a certain pick. I try to tell him that he public is right as often as its wrong.
 
It's just about time to get them in, for 1 oclock at least. Who we liking today?

Liked Pitt yesterday but didn't play them, had GB and the over later on. :goodposting:

I don't like either game today as much as yesterday's choices, but I'm leaning toward both favorites. The Hawk scare me a little bit, not really to win, but keep it close. Plus you always have to factor in Jay Cutler.

I don't see how the Jets keep pace with the Pats. Sanchez is not playing very well at all, this entire game rests on the Jets D to give them any shot, IMO. I'm liking the Pats today, and will probably only play them.

What are you guys doing?

Good luck!

 
It's just about time to get them in, for 1 oclock at least. Who we liking today?Liked Pitt yesterday but didn't play them, had GB and the over later on. :thumbup:I don't like either game today as much as yesterday's choices, but I'm leaning toward both favorites. The Hawk scare me a little bit, not really to win, but keep it close. Plus you always have to factor in Jay Cutler. I don't see how the Jets keep pace with the Pats. Sanchez is not playing very well at all, this entire game rests on the Jets D to give them any shot, IMO. I'm liking the Pats today, and will probably only play them. What are you guys doing? Good luck!
Best number today is NE-2.5 in a teaser. I'd probably pair that with Chicago -5.
 
Going with a 6pt. teaser today.

Seattle at Chicago (Over/Under) Under + 50.0

Chicago - 4.0

New York Jets at New England (Over/Under) Over + 39.00

New England - 3.0

Busted again by an under...

 
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