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I'm especially interested in what you will do with your 3rd - 7th round picks in this slot.
Let's discuss strategy.
Let's discuss strategy.
I don't know about that, but I am really thinking about taking one of them. I normally go heavy on RBs, but the past couple years I've had poor luck shuffling QBs, and I'm sick of having to deal with it. That, and there's a couple late round RBs that I don't mind reaching for.Take Brees and Brady at the turn and watch owners faces go
what late round RBs are you looking to 'reach' for ?I'm with you on having poor luck in the past w/QBs but to me this year there are some decentQBs available rounds 7 or later who could give you lots of points (Carson Palmer, Kyle Orton, Edwards)You could also get McNabb in the 5th &/or Schaub in the 6th.I think I'd rather 'reach' for a QB than a RB.I don't know about that, but I am really thinking about taking one of them. I normally go heavy on RBs, but the past couple years I've had poor luck shuffling QBs, and I'm sick of having to deal with it. That, and there's a couple late round RBs that I don't mind reaching for.Take Brees and Brady at the turn and watch owners faces go
I'm in the same boat. I'm picking 11th in my top league and I'm considering grabbing a QB in the second (Brees or Brady). Two years ago, I went the QBBC approach and got killed with Cutler and Schaub. Last year, I took a QB a little earlier and got killed again with Roethlisberger (plus Garrard stunk as my QB2). I probably won't take a QB because it goes against my nature to take one in the first 2-3 rounds. But the idea of having a stud QB and not having to worry about that guy is tempting.And yes, I realize the owners who took Brady in the first last year had the same thought. But injuries can happen to anyone. If guys like Brees and Brady stay healthy, they will produce and they likely won't disappoint you.I don't know about that, but I am really thinking about taking one of them. I normally go heavy on RBs, but the past couple years I've had poor luck shuffling QBs, and I'm sick of having to deal with it.
This is the way I am going as well. I think you can get a stud WR and very good RB in this slot - definitely another WR in the 3rd/4th paired with either a stud TE or QB unless a real good RB drops. It would take Jacobs/Portis/Ronnie/(R Bush if PPR) dropping to 36th pick to get me to go RB there (which I don't see happening).Then in the 5th/6th i'd hope for one of Kevin Smith, Pierre, Grant, Ward, Lynch, Addai, Moreno to fall to me.Max Power said:I feel like you have to split the difference in the rd1/2 turn. Grab the best back and best WR.I think the end of rd 3 is a good spot to grab Bowe, Welker or Housh. 4.01 is a tough spot just because of how rough the 5/6 turn gets. Personally I'd look at someone like Lynch. However if you feel like there is still good RB value at the next turn (Benson or Rice) I wouldn't be against grabbing Witten or Rivers/Rodgers. How ever if you don't get 2 rbs in the first 4 rds, I'd stick with back to back RBs in 5 and 6.
you do that and what RBs do you have in the 3rd and 4th rounds?BradyMoss/draft
I have been mocking out of the 12 spot and I have found this to be true. I found if you go RB-RB or WR-WR at pick 3 and 4 if a RB or WR drops to that spot you really can't pick him up as your #3 RB or WR because you will be scarificing your other positions.I feel like you have to split the difference in the rd1/2 turn. Grab the best back and best WR.
I think the end of rd 3 is a good spot to grab Bowe, Welker or Housh. 4.01 is a tough spot just because of how rough the 5/6 turn gets. Personally I'd look at someone like Lynch. However if you feel like there is still good RB value at the next turn (Benson or Rice) I wouldn't be against grabbing Witten or Rivers/Rodgers. How ever if you don't get 2 rbs in the first 4 rds, I'd stick with back to back RBs in 5 and 6.
RB/WR is fine also. IN fact it is either RB/WR or WR/WR for me for my real draft coming up. Coming to the turn for 5/6 and Gonzo and Clark might still be available. Wish I had gone Ocho last time and Clark this time. I would in our shoes take a WR not matter what. Your looking at maybe Holmes, Evans etc on the next turn. I like Clark just as much as Gates so I could see QB/WR or WR/WR instead.In a slow live draft right now. PPRFirst two picks were F Gore and S Slaton. I just couldn't help myself. I think those two will have excellent seasons.Now coming up on the end of the 3rd, not much at WR there. T Owens, Ochocinco, B Edwards, D JacksonShould have gone RB,WR, but hindsight is 20/20.Thinking of going TE, QB or TE, WR most likely.Witten is gone, the rest remain. The usual suspects remain at QB. Gone are Brady, Breese, Manning.
Ended up going this way:RB GoreRB SlatonWR OwensQB Warner (playoff schedule 14,15,16)WR DeShean JacksonTE D ClarkQB M SchaubRB R RiceDEF NYGWR C HenryRB A Bradshaw WR S Smith NYG ETCI am happy with this team. In hindsight, I should have gone with Ochocinco instead of Warner at 4, butglad D Jackson fell to me in 5. Am involved in yet another with the 12th pick, and went the opposite:R MossC JohnsonC OchocincoP ThomasT GonzalezM LynchAm planning on QB,QB next two rounds. One of the distinct advantages of the 12th (or first) pick is waiting on QB, and then taking two in a row later IMO.In a slow live draft right now. PPRFirst two picks were F Gore and S Slaton. I just couldn't help myself. I think those two will have excellent seasons.Now coming up on the end of the 3rd, not much at WR there. T Owens, Ochocinco, B Edwards, D JacksonShould have gone RB,WR, but hindsight is 20/20.Thinking of going TE, QB or TE, WR most likely.Witten is gone, the rest remain. The usual suspects remain at QB. Gone are Brady, Breese, Manning.
No way you'll get Bowe there dude, unless your leaguemates aren't very smart. Welker there might be a stretch alsoI feel like you have to split the difference in the rd1/2 turn. Grab the best back and best WR.I think the end of rd 3 is a good spot to grab Bowe, Welker or Housh. 4.01 is a tough spot just because of how rough the 5/6 turn gets. Personally I'd look at someone like Lynch. However if you feel like there is still good RB value at the next turn (Benson or Rice) I wouldn't be against grabbing Witten or Rivers/Rodgers. How ever if you don't get 2 rbs in the first 4 rds, I'd stick with back to back RBs in 5 and 6.
I'm a much bigger believer in Ryan Grant than most people and can't believe a 2nd undisputed starting RB is making it to the 3rd/4th turn.But we'll see...CD Dragon said:Pick Ovr Franchise Selection Date/Time Comments
1.12 12. Diabolical Dragons Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR
2.01 13. Diabolical Dragons Johnson, Andre HOU WR
3.12 36. Diabolical Dragons Johnson, Larry KCC RB
4.01 37. Diabolical Dragons Grant, Ryan GBP RB
This reminds me of a nightmare that our league had against the eventual champion years ago when he had Culpepper and Moss.He could have had started RBs on a bye and still won most weeks.BradyMoss/draft
This is what I have been doing in mocks so far but I dont go with a TE unless clark is still there at 5. I usually end up getting Rivers and LJ at that turn. You can pick up a TE in Carlson later. If the Qb's you listed are gone I wait on Palmer at the next turn and get some wr/rb depth in place.Rounds 1-2.....take two of the big 4 WR (Moss, Fitz, AJ, CJ)Rounds 3-4.....take two of the following backs (P Thomas, McFadden, Grant, Bush, K Smith, Ward)Rounds 5-6.....take an elite TE (Witten, Gates, Gonzo, Clark) or upper-tier QB (Rodgers, Warner, Romo, Rivers) if one falls....otherwise best available RB (Johnson, Parker, Rice, Benson, Addai) and WR (Evans, D Jackson, Royal, etc.)
The plan backfired big time in 2007.Week 15Brady 140/0/1Moss 5/79Would still love to do it...This reminds me of a nightmare that our league had against the eventual champion years ago when he had Culpepper and Moss.He could have had started RBs on a bye and still won most weeks.BradyMoss/draft
I am leaning this way too, and my rankings are in the same order...that being said, I think I like Slaton better than Gore. Am I crazy?I currently have the 12th pick my oldest league and it happens to be the one I want to win most we are entering the 15 season of this league.Here is my take at that spot, this is PPR and very high score performance league. #1- Im taking the best WR out of this group:Fitz AjohnsonR.Mossnow the other pick will be quite interesting, I am very very tempted to go empty backfiled until round3/4. Especially if Drew Brees is available which given this leagues track record he will not be.RB's I expect to be gone before 1.12:ADPMJDTurnerDeAngeloSjaxLTC.JohnsonM.ForteWestbrookSo If I can get either:GoreSlatonPortis(which by pure math I will) That is how I will probably start the draft. Gore/RandyMoss
This team would be a real problem in my league. We start 2 RB's and 3 WR's. I've only seen 3 trades in 6 seasons. I would have a great bench and really bad WR corp. No thanks.I will say this, in the IBL the big four receivers (Moss, AJ, Fitz and CJ) are not lasting until the turn. Granted it's a PPR league but that's still a little early for everyone to be grabbing receivers.Needless to say, I'll be going RB-RB. My lineup so far, 1.12 - Slaton2.1 - Westbrook3.12 - B.Edwards4.1 - K.Smith5.5 - Moreno 6.8 - Romo7.12 - F.Jones8.1 - CutlerI traded the 5.12,6.1 to get the 5.5,6.8
I'm hoping to parlay some of my running back depth into a better starting WR. The only way I could get around this was to take S.Smith at one of my early picks but that would have left very little at the RB2 and RB3. I'd still rather be stronger at RB than WR. I can make up for a WR deficit, not so much for a RB one.This team would be a real problem in my league. We start 2 RB's and 3 WR's. I've only seen 3 trades in 6 seasons. I would have a great bench and really bad WR corp. No thanks.I will say this, in the IBL the big four receivers (Moss, AJ, Fitz and CJ) are not lasting until the turn. Granted it's a PPR league but that's still a little early for everyone to be grabbing receivers.Needless to say, I'll be going RB-RB. My lineup so far, 1.12 - Slaton2.1 - Westbrook3.12 - B.Edwards4.1 - K.Smith5.5 - Moreno 6.8 - Romo7.12 - F.Jones8.1 - CutlerI traded the 5.12,6.1 to get the 5.5,6.8
Generally speaking, the best running back left at the 3.12 turn is usually Kevin Smith followed by Moreno and if you are really lucky, Thomas.Nice to hear that lots of other sharks are considering WR-WR on the turn. For me, the big question in this spot is probably what RBs to take in the group that's generally been available at 3.12 and 4.1? I really don't think you can go RB-RB in the first two rounds unless you get lucky and Slaton and Gore fall to you, like they did for one of the above posters. I like Thomas Jones if you're a risk-averse kind of guy, Knowshon Moreno if you like to roll the dice, and both of them if you go WR-WR in the first two rounds.
Thanks. I assume you meant Pierre Thomas and not Thomas Jones? That would be a gift from the Gods at 3.12.I'm really starting to think WR-WR is the shark move at the turn, at least in 3WR leagues. The dropoff at WR from 2.1 to 3.12 is far greater than the dropoff at RB between those two spots, in my opinion. I'm even thinking of getting my third WR or a QB along with an RB at 3.12 and 4.1. With guys like Larry Johnson, Ray Rice and Donald Brown available at 5.12 and 6.1, why not roll the dice?Generally speaking, the best running back left at the 3.12 turn is usually Kevin Smith followed by Moreno and if you are really lucky, Thomas.Nice to hear that lots of other sharks are considering WR-WR on the turn. For me, the big question in this spot is probably what RBs to take in the group that's generally been available at 3.12 and 4.1? I really don't think you can go RB-RB in the first two rounds unless you get lucky and Slaton and Gore fall to you, like they did for one of the above posters. I like Thomas Jones if you're a risk-averse kind of guy, Knowshon Moreno if you like to roll the dice, and both of them if you go WR-WR in the first two rounds.
I'd actually take Brady or Brees at 1.12 and best WR on the board at 2.01 followed by R Brown or best RB in 3.01 & 4.01.D-Fens said:I'm picking 12 but I'm in a third-round reversal draft, meaning I pick 1.12, 2.01, 3.01, 4.01, 5.12, 6.01, etc. Should I go WR/WR, then take Brown and possible McFadden? Or RB-WR then Jennings or Boldin at 3.01?BC
No U are not crazy. I debate an flip flop Gore/Slaton almost daily. I am actually thinking Westbrook might be there as well now that things are shaking out, I might grab him and handcuff McCoy later. Also heavily thinking about WR/WR - R.Moss with Wayne or Colston.I am leaning this way too, and my rankings are in the same order...that being said, I think I like Slaton better than Gore. Am I crazy?I currently have the 12th pick my oldest league and it happens to be the one I want to win most we are entering the 15 season of this league.Here is my take at that spot, this is PPR and very high score performance league. #1- Im taking the best WR out of this group:Fitz AjohnsonR.Mossnow the other pick will be quite interesting, I am very very tempted to go empty backfiled until round3/4. Especially if Drew Brees is available which given this leagues track record he will not be.RB's I expect to be gone before 1.12:ADPMJDTurnerDeAngeloSjaxLTC.JohnsonM.ForteWestbrookSo If I can get either:GoreSlatonPortis(which by pure math I will) That is how I will probably start the draft. Gore/RandyMoss
I have to agree here....and why is Matt Forte falling in the Draft Dominator rankings? He's available at pick 121?!?!the closer I get to my draft the more I think I'm taking a QB in pick 4.01If I wait till 5.12 I fear the top 7 will be gone & I'm not willing to risk having Schaub or Palmeras my #1 QB.right now I'm thinking 1) RB2) WR3) best WR or RB4) QB5) best WR or QB but whatever I do in the 3rd round influences what I do hereI still have a month to chance my mind but that's what I'm leaning towards right now.