Official 12th pick thread (1 Viewer)

[need2know]

My league is a 12 team snake redraft, scoring as follows:

All tds 6 ts

10 yards per rush pt

20 yards per rec pt

25 yards per pass pt

-3 per int, -2 per fumble

.5 ppr

What are your thoughts on this draft spot?

I am thinking draft a rb that catches like rice, mccoy, charles if they fall(most likely not) or draft two great wr or draft wr / qb. Qbs go fast in my league and if I don't pick one there I won't get a top 6 qb.

For sure I will draft calvin johnson with one of my first picks. The other is up in the air.

Thoughts?

 

[Futz]

None of those rbs are falling that far in mocks. So far, the best teams feature a WRWR or a QBWR combo. then go after rbs hot n heavy in the next 3 rounds.

i.e. Rodgers/Calvin/best/blount/ingram or

Calvin/White/ same rbs and nab a freeman/stafford combo

 

[Futz]

The only rb falling that i might consider is mjd. If u r a risk taker, u might as well take mcffadden as well. I tend to lean towards the sure things that late in the first though

 

[notoriousbob]

I've drafted from the 12 spot before and from the 11 spot a couple times. I always felt better about my teams when I got WR/WR. You end up with two studs to build off of. However, my league only requires one RB to start so Ican get away with it. I usually draw a line on the RB chart and tell myself only to pick a RB if one of the top 6 or so are available (ie no reach). You lock yourself into going RB at the 3/4 turn unless there is still a top tier QB on the board.

This year I am at the 12 and I'm expecting all top tier RBs to be gone, Rodgers to be gone and AJ to be gone. I'm praying Calvin is still available and I'm pretty sure Roddy will be around. That would be my best case scenario. Gore may be available too, and I would be tempted by him. Especially if Calvin is off the board. At the 3/4 I'm hoping for Blount. I need to figure out where Lynch and Bush are going, because they could be good depth (like I said, I only need one strong RB)

 

[fightingillini]

Not sure why WRs get 1 pt per 20 yds rec while RBs get 1 pt per 10 yds rushing.

In your spot, with 6 pts for all TDs, I am getting a QB, hopefully Vick. Then I take Calvin, or McFadden if he slips to you at 1.12. If the top 9 RBs, AJ and Rodgers are off the board, I think Calvin/Vick is a great start to your draft and look at RBs in your next swing of picks.

 

[ChromeWeasel]

Not sure why WRs get 1 pt per 20 yds rec while RBs get 1 pt per 10 yds rushing.

Yeah, that's a huge issue. If that is really your scoring system I recommend that you either fix it or find a better league.

 

[GoBirds]

Any recent drafts from this position?

Just found out I got 12, not too psyched.

 

[steelcityman]

I got 12 spot too. I did a mock on yahoo from the 12, and got MJD and I took Nicks. There were plenty of WRs to pick from.

In this league, seems RBs and QBs rule the roost. If Vick and Rodgers are gone, I am thinking of taking Rivers and the best RB. If Rodgers is still there, I will take him and the best RB, or unless a super stud WR is still there, I would take Rodgers and WR. Take a bunch of RBs later, and hope.

Its boring drafting 12th. Soooo long b/w picks, I might take a nap.

 

[GoBirds]

I got 12 spot too. I did a mock on yahoo from the 12, and got MJD and I took Nicks. There were plenty of WRs to pick from.In this league, seems RBs and QBs rule the roost. If Vick and Rodgers are gone, I am thinking of taking Rivers and the best RB. If Rodgers is still there, I will take him and the best RB, or unless a super stud WR is still there, I would take Rodgers and WR. Take a bunch of RBs later, and hope.Its boring drafting 12th. Soooo long b/w picks, I might take a nap.

If you were in a league with 4 pt passing tds would you consider Vick/Rodgers or wait?

 

[steelcityman]

I got 12 spot too. I did a mock on yahoo from the 12, and got MJD and I took Nicks. There were plenty of WRs to pick from.In this league, seems RBs and QBs rule the roost. If Vick and Rodgers are gone, I am thinking of taking Rivers and the best RB. If Rodgers is still there, I will take him and the best RB, or unless a super stud WR is still there, I would take Rodgers and WR. Take a bunch of RBs later, and hope.Its boring drafting 12th. Soooo long b/w picks, I might take a nap.

If you were in a league with 4 pt passing tds would you consider Vick/Rodgers or wait?

I would, only because every team that has won this league(me last year) had strong QBs, I had River and Ben last year. But I was also loaded everywhere else, Foster, R R Rice, Fitz, Calvin, Gates....it was a 100 pt margin of victory in the finals.But years before, Brady, Manning, etc were the winning QBs. I dont want to be left out with having Bradford or Cassel as my QB1. I'll chance it that no one in my league knows M Manningham and other beneficiaries of recent developments are. I think Vick and Rodgers wont be there for me at 12.

 

[Keith1]

I have the 12th pick (in fairness because I won our league last year), and I know that in my league (6 pts passing TDs), Rodgers and Vick will be long gone by the time I pick at 12. In fact, Brees will probably be gone when I pick too. Would love to see Mendenhall fall to me at 12, but if not, I imagine I will take Calvin.

I did already make a trade (first ever pre-draft trade in league history--LOL), moving down in the second, from pick # 13 to pick # 20, and in exchange, moving up in the 3rd (from 36 to 29) and in the 7th (from 84 to 77). I did this, in anticipation of either going QB at 20 (Romo will likely still be there--who knows, with the injury concerns, Manning could be there too), or grabbing a stud WR (Fitzy, Nicks). It allows me to get a better player in the 3rd round at 29 (eyeing Bradhaw there), and then at 37 if I didn't take Romo or Manning I would grab a QB--probably Schaub, or perhaps Ben. If I did take a QB at 20, then I would look to grab perhaps Ingram at 37. Sucks that after pick 37 we don't pick again until pick # 60.

 

[need2know]

Yeah, Vick and Rodgers will be gone for me. I am thinking Calvin and Mcfadden or Calvin and Gore. If some goober takes Calvin, I have AJ and Fitz right up there too.

The scoring is an issue in my league(20 yards per rec pt) and I have brought it up. In fact, the only reason we have the .5 ppr is because of that. I have said we should just make it 10 yards per rec and get rid of the .5 ppr but I keep getting overruled. There is also a bonus of 2 pts for 100 yard rec games as well, but no other bonus for any other stat. Weird I know, but this is the same league I have been in for ten years and alot of $$$ and I aint leaving. Having won $ multiple times, I aint leaving.

 

[Keith1]

Yeah, Vick and Rodgers will be gone for me. I am thinking Calvin and Mcfadden or Calvin and Gore. If some goober takes Calvin, I have AJ and Fitz right up there too.The scoring is an issue in my league(20 yards per rec pt) and I have brought it up. In fact, the only reason we have the .5 ppr is because of that. I have said we should just make it 10 yards per rec and get rid of the .5 ppr but I keep getting overruled. There is also a bonus of 2 pts for 100 yard rec games as well, but no other bonus for any other stat. Weird I know, but this is the same league I have been in for ten years and alot of $$$ and I aint leaving. Having won $ multiple times, I aint leaving.

so what are you thinking about in terms of your QB ? If not at 12/13, by the time you pick again at 36/37, gone will be Rodgers, Vick, Brees, Brady, Rivers, Manning and Romo. Personally I have no qualms going with Schaub at 37. If you don't take them there, then it's a long way to pick # 60.

 

[need2know]

Yeah, Vick and Rodgers will be gone for me. I am thinking Calvin and Mcfadden or Calvin and Gore. If some goober takes Calvin, I have AJ and Fitz right up there too.The scoring is an issue in my league(20 yards per rec pt) and I have brought it up. In fact, the only reason we have the .5 ppr is because of that. I have said we should just make it 10 yards per rec and get rid of the .5 ppr but I keep getting overruled. There is also a bonus of 2 pts for 100 yard rec games as well, but no other bonus for any other stat. Weird I know, but this is the same league I have been in for ten years and alot of $$$ and I aint leaving. Having won $ multiple times, I aint leaving.

so what are you thinking about in terms of your QB ? If not at 12/13, by the time you pick again at 36/37, gone will be Rodgers, Vick, Brees, Brady, Rivers, Manning and Romo. Personally I have no qualms going with Schaub at 37. If you don't take them there, then it's a long way to pick # 60.

There is a chance that Romo will be there and and even smaller chance that Manning would be there. the others are gone for sure. If one of them makes it I will draft one. Schaub would be ok, but if ffor some reason those guys are all gone, it may be another WR/RB maybe Dez Bryant, or a better WR that falls through falls and Ingram/Best or another RB ... What do you think?

 

[Bamac]

Not sure why WRs get 1 pt per 20 yds rec while RBs get 1 pt per 10 yds rushing.

Yeah, that's a huge issue. If that is really your scoring system I recommend that you either fix it or find a better league.

If that's your scoring system, go RB-RB.

 

[Keith1]

Yeah, Vick and Rodgers will be gone for me. I am thinking Calvin and Mcfadden or Calvin and Gore. If some goober takes Calvin, I have AJ and Fitz right up there too.The scoring is an issue in my league(20 yards per rec pt) and I have brought it up. In fact, the only reason we have the .5 ppr is because of that. I have said we should just make it 10 yards per rec and get rid of the .5 ppr but I keep getting overruled. There is also a bonus of 2 pts for 100 yard rec games as well, but no other bonus for any other stat. Weird I know, but this is the same league I have been in for ten years and alot of $$$ and I aint leaving. Having won $ multiple times, I aint leaving.

so what are you thinking about in terms of your QB ? If not at 12/13, by the time you pick again at 36/37, gone will be Rodgers, Vick, Brees, Brady, Rivers, Manning and Romo. Personally I have no qualms going with Schaub at 37. If you don't take them there, then it's a long way to pick # 60.

There is a chance that Romo will be there and and even smaller chance that Manning would be there. the others are gone for sure. If one of them makes it I will draft one. Schaub would be ok, but if ffor some reason those guys are all gone, it may be another WR/RB maybe Dez Bryant, or a better WR that falls through falls and Ingram/Best or another RB ... What do you think?

all I know is that year in and year out, the teams that make the semi's and finals in my league are the teams with the better QBs. If I thought Brees would be there for me in my league at 12, I would strongly consider taking him. I won't go past Schaub or Ben, as I think Stafford, Eli, Ryan, Freemen etc..., are a definite step down. I look at Schaub's last 5-6 games last season, coupled with a gut feeling that Foster is not as productive (or healthy) this year, and it really makes me want to grab him with the 1st pick of the 4th round (pick # 37).

 

[need2know]

Not sure why WRs get 1 pt per 20 yds rec while RBs get 1 pt per 10 yds rushing.

Yeah, that's a huge issue. If that is really your scoring system I recommend that you either fix it or find a better league.

If that's your scoring system, go RB-RB.

I have thought about this too. Two RBs that get some receptions would be nice. Mcfadden/Gore combo / But I can forget about a stud WR then

 

[lsutigers]

I love the 12 spot in a 12 team league.

Depending on scoring, I almost always go WR/WR unless a quality RB falls.

This year is odd in that there are a small no. of "stud" 1st round RB's and the dropoff at QB is pretty huge after the top 7.

Coming out of the 12 spot this season, you either need to reach for a QB at the 1/2 turn, reach for a QB at 3/4, or just say screw it and try for a QBBC.

I agree with whoever said you need a quality QB to win most leagues.

 

[GoBirds]

Out of the runnink backs around at 12/13 how would you rank them and who are you picking?

 

[Keith1]

Out of the runnink backs around at 12/13 how would you rank them and who are you picking?

I would rank them: Mendenhall, SJax, Gore, Forte, McFadden, MJD.I do not plan on taking an RB at 12, unless if Mendy should fall that far.

 

[GoBirds]

Out of the runnink backs around at 12/13 how would you rank them and who are you picking?

I would rank them: Mendenhall, SJax, Gore, Forte, McFadden, MJD.I do not plan on taking an RB at 12, unless if Mendy should fall that far.

Who do you hope to get in the 3rd/4th? I worry that if I don't take one it could get ugly. Outside of Mendy though these guys are on brutal teams.

 

[need2know]

Out of the runnink backs around at 12/13 how would you rank them and who are you picking?

Mendy, Mcfadden, Gore, SJAX, Forte

 

[GoBirds]

In non-ppr would anyone consider WR/WR to start? CJ/Fitz maybe?

 

[Keith1]

Out of the runnink backs around at 12/13 how would you rank them and who are you picking?

I would rank them: Mendenhall, SJax, Gore, Forte, McFadden, MJD.I do not plan on taking an RB at 12, unless if Mendy should fall that far.

Who do you hope to get in the 3rd/4th? I worry that if I don't take one it could get ugly. Outside of Mendy though these guys are on brutal teams.

I traded down in the 2nd (from 13 to 20) in exchange for moving up in the 3rd (from 36 to 29) and in the 7th (from 84 to 77). I have changed my mind several times, but I think (today at least) I may grab my QB at 12 (Brees or Brady), come back with Fitzy or Nicks at 20 and then maybe reach for Ingram at 29, and then grab Dez at 37. I do believe that when we pick again at the end of the 5th/beginning of the 6th (picks 60 and 61) available RBs will be Felix Jones, Lynch, FJax, etc... Draft is still 3 weeks away, so I will probably only change my mind on this another 20 times. LOL.

 

[need2know]

Starting to lean more to qb/wr at the 12/13 pick unless a nice rb falls

 

[Short Corner]

In non-ppr would anyone consider WR/WR to start? CJ/Fitz maybe?

Non ppr all TDs 6 points. I will take AJ-CJ-Roddy-Fitz in this spot.

 

[GoBirds]

In non-ppr would anyone consider WR/WR to start? CJ/Fitz maybe?

Non ppr all TDs 6 points. I will take AJ-CJ-Roddy-Fitz in this spot.

Which RB's do you like at the 3/4 turn?

 

[Short Corner]

In non-ppr would anyone consider WR/WR to start? CJ/Fitz maybe?

Non ppr all TDs 6 points. I will take AJ-CJ-Roddy-Fitz in this spot.

Which RB's do you like at the 3/4 turn?

Bradshaw, Matthews, Best, Ingram, Blount....maybe Felix although his ADP says he could fall to my next pickJust did my first mock, not to realistic but I got Rodgers, CJ, Bradshaw, Ingram, Dez, Finley thru 6....no way in hell Rodgers or Vick make it to me in my league though.at the 1.12/2.01 I am looking at any of these guys if available.QB1 Rodgers, VickRB1 Foster, CJ, ADPRB2 Rice, Charles, (maybe Mendenhall)WR1 AJ, CJWR2 Roddy, Fitz, My nightmare scenario is if these 11 are gone, I probably go Mendenhall, Nicks/VJax. My next tier of RBs goes 9 deep, so I will probably try and trade up to assure AJ/CJ and still grab a similar valued RB later in the 2nd.

 

[need2know]

In non-ppr would anyone consider WR/WR to start? CJ/Fitz maybe?

Non ppr all TDs 6 points. I will take AJ-CJ-Roddy-Fitz in this spot.

Which RB's do you like at the 3/4 turn?

Great question. Best, ingram, benson, dwill, stewart to name a few. I prob would take best and a wr. So only 1 rb in the first 4 rds. Seems risky...

 

[GoBirds]

In non-ppr would anyone consider WR/WR to start? CJ/Fitz maybe?

Non ppr all TDs 6 points. I will take AJ-CJ-Roddy-Fitz in this spot.

Which RB's do you like at the 3/4 turn?

Great question. Best, ingram, benson, dwill, stewart to name a few. I prob would take best and a wr. So only 1 rb in the first 4 rds. Seems risky...

Stewart, wont DWill be the guy?

 

[need2know]

In non-ppr would anyone consider WR/WR to start? CJ/Fitz maybe?

NoHyn ppr all TDs 6 points. I will take AJ-CJ-Roddy-Fitz in this spot.

Which RB's do you like at the 3/4 turn?

Great question. Best, ingram, benson, dwill, stewart to name a few. I prob would take best and a wr. So only 1 rb in the first 4 rds. Seems risky...

Stewart, wont DWill be the guy?

True no way in hell taking stewart there

 

[GoBirds]

Bump for some ideas on which RB to take here, at a complete loss. Any recent drafters?

 

[need2know]

My draft is not until the end of the month, but I still am not sure on whihc RB to target. If Mendenhall or Mccoy falls I would take them. If not I would rank as follows: MJD, Mcfadden, Gore. MJD scares me with his knee and the Jags being awful. Same kind of story with Gore. Mcfadden could be the pick. Yes, he also has an injury history, but he probably has the highest ceiling out of these backs...what do you think?

 

[GoBirds]

My draft is not until the end of the month, but I still am not sure on whihc RB to target. If Mendenhall or Mccoy falls I would take them. If not I would rank as follows: MJD, Mcfadden, Gore. MJD scares me with his knee and the Jags being awful. Same kind of story with Gore. Mcfadden could be the pick. Yes, he also has an injury history, but he probably has the highest ceiling out of these backs...what do you think?

Hoping Mendy or McCoy fall but think it will probably be out of the other 3, maybe Turner also. Don't know maybe Turner being on the best offense as the other 3 teams will be brutal. I also like Fitz at the turn assuming Andre and maybe Calvin are gone.

 

[eoMMan]

Bump for some ideas on which RB to take here, at a complete loss. Any recent drafters?

Well, you're 3rd/4th round picks would be the 36th and 37th overall picks, right?You're going to be looking at guys like S. Greene, K. Moreno, C. Benson, maybe Hillis, maybe Best. If it's PPR, Best, Hillis, Moreno, etc. would be your best bet. If it's non-PPR, I love Greene here if you can get him.

 

[GoBirds]

Bump for some ideas on which RB to take here, at a complete loss. Any recent drafters?

Well, you're 3rd/4th round picks would be the 36th and 37th overall picks, right?You're going to be looking at guys like S. Greene, K. Moreno, C. Benson, maybe Hillis, maybe Best. If it's PPR, Best, Hillis, Moreno, etc. would be your best bet. If it's non-PPR, I love Greene here if you can get him.

Non PPR, so maybe consider WR/WR to open up? Or if Vick falls.

 

[need2know]

what about turner and WR with the 12/13 pick if no better RB is available?

 

[stubby]

Out of the runnink backs around at 12/13 how would you rank them and who are you picking?

I would rank them: Mendenhall, SJax, Gore, Forte, McFadden, MJD.

I do not plan on taking an RB at 12, unless if Mendy should fall that far.

Who do you hope to get in the 3rd/4th? I worry that if I don't take one it could get ugly. Outside of Mendy though these guys are on brutal teams.

I traded down in the 2nd (from 13 to 20) in exchange for moving up in the 3rd (from 36 to 29) and in the 7th (from 84 to 77). I have changed my mind several times, but I think (today at least) I may grab my QB at 12 (Brees or Brady), come back with Fitzy or Nicks at 20 and then maybe reach for Ingram at 29, and then grab Dez at 37. I do believe that when we pick again at the end of the 5th/beginning of the 6th (picks 60 and 61) available RBs will be Felix Jones, Lynch, FJax, etc... Draft is still 3 weeks away, so I will probably only change my mind on this another 20 times. LOL.

I don't think Fitz or Nicks will be there at 20...I'm only seeing one of them available in about 40% of the mocks I've done, and I have the 7th overall pick (19th in second round), and I'll be taking the one that falls.

 

[Short Corner]

I am warming up to this pick now. Top 5 RBs will surely be gone. At least one of (Tier3 RB) Mendy, McCoy, DMac, (QB1) Rodgers, Vick, , (WR1) AJ, CJ will be there, hopefully 2, if not, will take Roddy or Fitz at 13(have Nicks in this tier as well) or try and trade down. All TDs 6 points so the QBs will most likely be gone.

 

[Keith1]

Out of the runnink backs around at 12/13 how would you rank them and who are you picking?

I would rank them: Mendenhall, SJax, Gore, Forte, McFadden, MJD.

I do not plan on taking an RB at 12, unless if Mendy should fall that far.

Who do you hope to get in the 3rd/4th? I worry that if I don't take one it could get ugly. Outside of Mendy though these guys are on brutal teams.

I traded down in the 2nd (from 13 to 20) in exchange for moving up in the 3rd (from 36 to 29) and in the 7th (from 84 to 77). I have changed my mind several times, but I think (today at least) I may grab my QB at 12 (Brees or Brady), come back with Fitzy or Nicks at 20 and then maybe reach for Ingram at 29, and then grab Dez at 37. I do believe that when we pick again at the end of the 5th/beginning of the 6th (picks 60 and 61) available RBs will be Felix Jones, Lynch, FJax, etc... Draft is still 3 weeks away, so I will probably only change my mind on this another 20 times. LOL.

I don't think Fitz or Nicks will be there at 20...I'm only seeing one of them available in about 40% of the mocks I've done, and I have the 7th overall pick (19th in second round), and I'll be taking the one that falls.

Not precisely in this order, but I can see either Fitzy or Nicks falling to 20 with the first 19 being: Peterson, Foster, CJ, Rice, Charles, Vick, Andre, Mendenhall, Rodgers, Calvin, Brees, Roddy White, Brady, McFadden, Rivers, SJax, Turner and Gore (I suppose I could have included Forte and Peyton as well). For me personally (only because of my trade), if Fitzy and Nicks are gone at 20, I would grab Vincent Jackson there.

 

[theplayer11]

I'm grabbing 2 RBs for sure...junk at 3/4 turn.

 

[stubby]

Out of the runnink backs around at 12/13 how would you rank them and who are you picking?

I would rank them: Mendenhall, SJax, Gore, Forte, McFadden, MJD.

I do not plan on taking an RB at 12, unless if Mendy should fall that far.

Who do you hope to get in the 3rd/4th? I worry that if I don't take one it could get ugly. Outside of Mendy though these guys are on brutal teams.

I traded down in the 2nd (from 13 to 20) in exchange for moving up in the 3rd (from 36 to 29) and in the 7th (from 84 to 77). I have changed my mind several times, but I think (today at least) I may grab my QB at 12 (Brees or Brady), come back with Fitzy or Nicks at 20 and then maybe reach for Ingram at 29, and then grab Dez at 37. I do believe that when we pick again at the end of the 5th/beginning of the 6th (picks 60 and 61) available RBs will be Felix Jones, Lynch, FJax, etc... Draft is still 3 weeks away, so I will probably only change my mind on this another 20 times. LOL.

I don't think Fitz or Nicks will be there at 20...I'm only seeing one of them available in about 40% of the mocks I've done, and I have the 7th overall pick (19th in second round), and I'll be taking the one that falls.

Not precisely in this order, but I can see either Fitzy or Nicks falling to 20 with the first 19 being: Peterson, Foster, CJ, Rice, Charles, Vick, Andre, Mendenhall, Rodgers, Calvin, Brees, Roddy White, Brady, McFadden, Rivers, SJax, Turner and Gore (I suppose I could have included Forte and Peyton as well). For me personally (only because of my trade), if Fitzy and Nicks are gone at 20, I would grab Vincent Jackson there.

This might help your point, but did you leave out McCoy by accident?

 

[need2know]

I'm grabbing 2 RBs for sure...junk at 3/4 turn.

This. I've done enough mocks to know I like my team better if I go RB/RB here; specifically McFadden and Gore. Then my hope is that one of the 2nd tier QBs falls or Best is there at the 3/4 turn. There's a ton of WR and QB value in the 5-8th rounds that should help fill in the holes I created in the first four rounds.

Rb/rb is prob the only combo I know I wont do. One wr has to be taken here, thats the strength of the spot imo

 

[GoBirds]

I went with Vick/Fitzgerald to start, not too excited about RB's I ended up with, Best, Matthews, Jones.

 

[Keith1]

Out of the runnink backs around at 12/13 how would you rank them and who are you picking?

I would rank them: Mendenhall, SJax, Gore, Forte, McFadden, MJD.

I do not plan on taking an RB at 12, unless if Mendy should fall that far.

Who do you hope to get in the 3rd/4th? I worry that if I don't take one it could get ugly. Outside of Mendy though these guys are on brutal teams.

I traded down in the 2nd (from 13 to 20) in exchange for moving up in the 3rd (from 36 to 29) and in the 7th (from 84 to 77). I have changed my mind several times, but I think (today at least) I may grab my QB at 12 (Brees or Brady), come back with Fitzy or Nicks at 20 and then maybe reach for Ingram at 29, and then grab Dez at 37. I do believe that when we pick again at the end of the 5th/beginning of the 6th (picks 60 and 61) available RBs will be Felix Jones, Lynch, FJax, etc... Draft is still 3 weeks away, so I will probably only change my mind on this another 20 times. LOL.

I don't think Fitz or Nicks will be there at 20...I'm only seeing one of them available in about 40% of the mocks I've done, and I have the 7th overall pick (19th in second round), and I'll be taking the one that falls.

Not precisely in this order, but I can see either Fitzy or Nicks falling to 20 with the first 19 being: Peterson, Foster, CJ, Rice, Charles, Vick, Andre, Mendenhall, Rodgers, Calvin, Brees, Roddy White, Brady, McFadden, Rivers, SJax, Turner and Gore (I suppose I could have included Forte and Peyton as well). For me personally (only because of my trade), if Fitzy and Nicks are gone at 20, I would grab Vincent Jackson there.

This might help your point, but did you leave out McCoy by accident?

that was purely an oversight. McCoy will be a 1st round pick in my league (and I would assume most leagues). And if you slot him in there, it gives me what I believe to be better than a 40% chance that either Nicks or Fitzy are there for me at pick # 20.

 

[faux_bear]

I hate this pick because(at least in 6pt for passing td leagues) you're not likely to have Rodgers or Vick drop to you in the first turn, and are unlikely to have a top 7 QB drop to you in the second turn. So the only way for you land one of the top QB's is probably to take Brees/Brady/Manning/Rivers at pick 12 or 13...and who wants to do that?

 

[Short Corner]

I hate this pick because(at least in 6pt for passing td leagues) you're not likely to have Rodgers or Vick drop to you in the first turn, and are unlikely to have a top 7 QB drop to you in the second turn. So the only way for you land one of the top QB's is probably to take Brees/Brady/Manning/Rivers at pick 12 or 13...and who wants to do that?

If life gives you lemons, make lemonade. There is still value beyond the first 7 QBs. If I can't get Romo at 5/6, I am more than happy with the likes of Stafford/Eli/Freemnan/Cutler/Ryan/Rothlesberger later.

 

[Short Corner]

I'm grabbing 2 RBs for sure...junk at 3/4 turn.

The junk RBs at the 3-4 turn are't much worse than the ones available than the ones you'll take at the 1-2. OTOH, the WRs you get at 1-2 are much better. Using ADP:AJ - Mike williams > MJD - BestI'll take a top 8 RB if one falls, if not, I am more than happy with 2 top 3 WRs.

 

[need2know]

No way vick or rodgers make it to me in round 1. I am now leaning wr wr or rb wr. I am thinking about going,early on matt ryan at the 3/4 turn with the other being best player available. Unless a top 7 qb falls. But part of me would take ryan over manning. Is that crazy?

 

[Keith1]

No way vick or rodgers make it to me in round 1. I am now leaning wr wr or rb wr. I am thinking about going,early on matt ryan at the 3/4 turn with the other being best player available. Unless a top 7 qb falls. But part of me would take ryan over manning. Is that crazy?

awful lot of hype for Ryan. I would rather grab a guy like Brady, Brees or Rivers at the 12/13 slot and then not have to worry about it.