**Official** 2009 Dallas Cowboys Thread (2 Viewers)

[Bankerguy]

Williams!!!

 

[SPM]

meh

 

[Ariakis]

Meh

 

[cobalt_27]

Meh.

This sucks.

 

[Wu-banger]

not a fan...

 

[Bankerguy]

OK my final guess/prediction for our first 5 picks are:

2nd- Sean Smith CB/FS or Max Unger C or Duke Robinson OG

3rd-Andy Levitre OG or Rashad Johnson FS

4th-Jason Williams ILB

4th Brandon Williams OLB

5th Terrance Taylor NT

I like it. Helps the pass rush and gives us some depth at LB. Ellis aint gettng younger.If we get Rashad Johnson/Duke Robinson next...I'd be pretty pleased.

 

[Andy Herron]

Well, we needed a LB in any case, but I'll feel better if we can land Johnson at #75.

 

[cowboysin07]

I'm about to turn this off.

 

[Andy Herron]

OK my final guess/prediction for our first 5 picks are:

2nd- Sean Smith CB/FS or Max Unger C or Duke Robinson OG

3rd-Andy Levitre OG or Rashad Johnson FS

4th-Jason Williams ILB

4th Brandon Williams OLB

5th Terrance Taylor NT

I like it. Helps the pass rush and gives us some depth at LB. Ellis aint gettng younger.If we get Rashad Johnson/Duke Robinson next...I'd be pretty pleased.

That's pretty good Bankerguy.They were actually targeting Unger in the second but Seattle beat them to it, prompting them to trade out of the second entirely.

 

[Bankerguy]

The Cowboys got a 3rd and a 4th from Buffalo for that trade.They're going to trade back up into the 2nd with one of their 5th's along with another pick.

Any idea on who/what they're targeting at this point? One of the safeties is my only guess, no?

Right. Because SS Moore wasn't good enough.Jeebus.

For a skeptic like me who has pointed out before that this is Jerruh's first draft after a good drafting stretch without the benefit of Parcells, Ireland or (last year) Ireland's preliminary player evaluations before he departed for the Dolphins, the trade down smacks of indecisiveness, especially when the Cowboys already had so many second day picks before the trade. We'll see how the day plays out. Don't dismiss me, BTW, as a troll because I'm not being that. I'll praise good picks if I see them, but I'm just going on record with what I suspect is the problem in the Cowboys draft room.

Ridge and I hae explained this a few times to you and you won't listen that it was Tom's draft last year. We also have a disciplined (That I have posted previously) approach to how selections are made. You will give credit for good picks but you are stubborn on some things too.

 

[Bankerguy]

I'm about to turn this off.

Catch ya later.

 

[Andy Herron]

Hopefully the Niners go OL here and not S.

Maybe a RB?

 

[pgreenfan]

Bankerguy/All,

Any insight into what else there is to Williams over than the fast 40 time at the workouts? Is he a thumper? Is there any chance he could move to SS in the mold of Darren Woodson? Does anybody have any idea about his hips? 3-cone?

 

[T Bell]

The Cowboys got a 3rd and a 4th from Buffalo for that trade.

They're going to trade back up into the 2nd with one of their 5th's along with another pick.

Any idea on who/what they're targeting at this point? One of the safeties is my only guess, no?

Right. Because SS Moore wasn't good enough.Jeebus.

For a skeptic like me who has pointed out before that this is Jerruh's first draft after a good drafting stretch without the benefit of Parcells, Ireland or (last year) Ireland's preliminary player evaluations before he departed for the Dolphins, the trade down smacks of indecisiveness, especially when the Cowboys already had so many second day picks before the trade. We'll see how the day plays out. Don't dismiss me, BTW, as a troll because I'm not being that. I'll praise good picks if I see them, but I'm just going on record with what I suspect is the problem in the Cowboys draft room.

Ridge and I hae explained this a few times to you and you won't listen that it was Tom's draft last year. We also have a disciplined (That I have posted previously) approach to how selections are made. You will give credit for good picks but you are stubborn on some things too.

I'm aware of what you explained. I'm also aware of how you're claiming credit for predicting a selection made a round earlier than you predicted, and on a workout warrior no less. Moreover, this guy looks like he's best suited to play WOLB in a 3-4, but since you've already got Ware at that spot I'm wondering how exactly he's supposed to fit in.

I'll reserve my opinions until all 12 picks are in, but where you think I'm too harsh in my assessments, I'd point out that you seem awfully willing to forgive/overlook.

 

[Bankerguy]

 

[cobalt_27]

The Cowboys got a 3rd and a 4th from Buffalo for that trade.

They're going to trade back up into the 2nd with one of their 5th's along with another pick.

Any idea on who/what they're targeting at this point? One of the safeties is my only guess, no?

Right. Because SS Moore wasn't good enough.Jeebus.

For a skeptic like me who has pointed out before that this is Jerruh's first draft after a good drafting stretch without the benefit of Parcells, Ireland or (last year) Ireland's preliminary player evaluations before he departed for the Dolphins, the trade down smacks of indecisiveness, especially when the Cowboys already had so many second day picks before the trade. We'll see how the day plays out. Don't dismiss me, BTW, as a troll because I'm not being that. I'll praise good picks if I see them, but I'm just going on record with what I suspect is the problem in the Cowboys draft room.

Ridge and I hae explained this a few times to you and you won't listen that it was Tom's draft last year. We also have a disciplined (That I have posted previously) approach to how selections are made. You will give credit for good picks but you are stubborn on some things too.

We? I wasn't aware you were part of the organization.

 

[Ariakis]

Williams is a decent player ... a few rounds later. They could have taken PBA and still gotten this guy later.

 

[Andy Herron]

#75. OT Robert Brewster

 

[SPM]

#75. OT Robert Brewster

 

[cowboysin07]

2 7th rounders.........very nice

 

[Andy Herron]

Ball State.

6' 4", 324.

Doesn't like playing while wearing contacts. Prefers playing with glasses or goggles.

 

[culdeus]

every time I leave this thread I forget what an asswhip tinker bell is till I get back.

 

[cobalt_27]

#75. OT Robert Brewster

Apparently, the Cowboys are all set at Safety.

 

[SPM]

I hate this draft so far

 

[Ariakis]

Atleast we aren't the Broncos or Raiders ... but this is pretty darn close.

 

[simmonjm]

#75. OT Robert Brewster

Apparently, the Cowboys are all set at Safety.

Dude releax its not like Rashad Johnson is the only safety left in the draft.

 

[T Bell]

every time I leave this thread I forget what an asswhip tinker bell is till I get back.

Don't kill the messenger, Sweets.

 

[cowboysin07]

Atleast we aren't the Broncos or Raiders ... but this is pretty darn close.

I'd rather have Moore than both of these scrubs.

 

[cobalt_27]

Cowboys clearly are not interested in building up the secondary via the draft. Jerry wants immediate starters in some capacity. Still, this blows.

 

[simmonjm]

Atleast we aren't the Broncos or Raiders ... but this is pretty darn close.

I'd rather have Moore than both of these scrubs.

Would you please provide your scouting reports on Moore, Brewster, and Williams or are you just going off of what Mel Kiper said about the Cowboys picks?

 

[Bankerguy]

T Bell

Well, me providing some evidence that I liked the guy seemed reasonable. It wasn't about chest thumping and "LOOK AT ME". Most know that I'm not like that.

As I am sure you know draft risers are sometimes hard to project round. Since it was the first pick of the fourth. I missed by about 25 picks. Sorry about that

Yes he is raw, but you can't coach talent. I think he will play inside and likely in the nickel. Will be a great blitzer on third downs.

 

[Andy Herron]

Bankerguy/All,Any insight into what else there is to Williams over than the fast 40 time at the workouts? Is he a thumper? Is there any chance he could move to SS in the mold of Darren Woodson? Does anybody have any idea about his hips? 3-cone?

From NFL.com-http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/profiles/jason-williams?id=89818Overview One of the most underrated players in the 2009 NFL Draft, Williams was a terror in opposing backfields since shifting to weak-side linebacker from strong safety as a sophomore. In each of his last three seasons, he ranked among the nation's leaders in forced fumbles and tackles behind the line of scrimmage.Analysis Positives: Good speed and hustle to chase down plays down the line or from behind. Comes downhill in a hurry, but can change direction if the runner makes a move. Takes on fullback blocks in the hole so others can make plays. Often played as a stand-up rusher. Solid wrap-up tackler in space. Will try to get under the pads of guards to hold his position. Forces turnovers by attacking the ball with his hands after securing the tackle. Active in coverage, with the quickness to stay with tight ends and running backs. Negatives: Has a strong safety build, thin in the legs and only adequate upper-body strength. May be a classic inside-outside linebacker "tweener." Played inside quite a bit for but is better on the edge because he lacks the strength to hold up versus NFL interior lineman. Has tight hips. Could get off blocks better to make plays. Inconsistent getting through trash inside. Must learn not to overrun plays.Compares To: JAMES HARRISON, Pittsburgh -- This is high praise for an unknown player, but the more film scouts watch on Williams, the more they will notice he has the "it" factor. With patient coaching and in the right system, he could turn into one of the better finds in this draft. He plays with excellent field vision and awareness. Williams demonstrates the instincts to quickly track down the ball. He has the change-of-direction agility and lateral movement to string plays wide and hits ballcarriers with force, driving with his legs to push the opponent back through the rush lane.

 

[cobalt_27]

#75. OT Robert Brewster

Apparently, the Cowboys are all set at Safety.

Dude releax its not like Rashad Johnson is the only safety left in the draft.

Dude I know. It's not like Brewster was the only OT left in the draft either. On the hierarchy of needs, defensive secondary was absolutely number one, followed by everything else, including O-line.Terrible draft management starting yesterday and continuing today.

 

[Bankerguy]

MACOMB, Ill. - When more than one-third of the NFL's 32 teams invite you to their house, somebody is doing something right.

The final semester as a student-athlete for Western Illinois senior Jason Williams has been filled with ups and downs. And frequent flier miles. By the end of this week, the 6-1, 241-pound linebacker will have visited more teams than any other draft prospect, taken nearly 30 flights and traveled more than 13,000 miles in the last four weeks. That's a lot of job interviews for a college senior.

This week's itinerary: Jacksonville Tuesday to Cleveland Wednesday to the New York Jets on Thursday and Dallas on Friday.

Last week's schedule: New England to Tennessee to Seattle, then to Oakland which was added as the 12th team while he was interviewing with the Patriots.

Other visits since March 23: Miami, Tampa, Indianapolis, Green Bay.

"The whole process started out kind of rough because of all the travel, but the longer it has gone on the easier it has become," Williams said from a hotel room in Jacksonville, Fla., late Monday evening. "It's a lot more fun now than it was at first."

Fun? Not unless you actually enjoy being put through a job interview. But maybe a little more so than the cross-examinations of the corporate world.

From his Twitter account (twitter.com/jwill6) on Wednesday morning he shares with his 69 followers that he is rubbing elbows in Cleveland with likely first-round draft selections Aaron Curry and Andre Smith... "oh yea, and Brian Orakpo" one hour ago... and "now Chris Beanie Wells" one minute ago.

NFL teams are allowed to host 30 players on pre-draft visits before April 17, during which time the team doctors will examine them, the front-office personnel will interview them, and the position coaches will test them, physically and mentally, all in an effort to assure the team is getting the right fit in its draft selection April 25-26.

"They just want to get a feel for who I am and what I can bring to their organization," said Williams. "It really is no different than any other job interview."

Path to the Draft

Two months after his collegiate career came to an end Williams began to attract a lot of attention as one of only a handful of Football Championship Subdivision (FCS) players chosen for January's East-West Shrine Game, an annual showcase of some of the nation's top collegiate talent. By the end of the week in Houston, which included practices in front of scouts and interviews with team personnel, Williams was appearing in articles by NFL bloggers and draft experts.

"I wanted to go into that week and make a name for myself," Williams said. "I wanted people to know who Jason Williams was. I had real good practices and then the people who were somewhat indifferent about me in the beginning of the week seemed to change their minds, which is what I set out there to do."

Williams' path to the draft this semester took an unexpected turn in February when his invitation to the NFL's scouting combine never arrived. Every year hundreds of college players have the right to complain about not being one of the 300 or so hand-picked prospects, but instead of complain, Williams welcomed the challenge of proving his critics wrong. All he has done since is impress every scout that passed him up in February.

"I quickly got over the initial disappointment of not being invited, and I took it as a challenge to go out there and do that much better than the players who were at the combine. I wanted to prove that I deserved an invitation," remembered Williams.

The Leathernecks held their annual NFL Pro Day in early March, providing Williams with his next opportunity to impress 14 judges in Macomb. Donned in a black t-shirt with white letters reading "NUMBERS DON'T LIE," Williams not only turned in the best 40-yard dash time and vertical jump mark of the day, but he recorded numbers that bettered every linebacker at the February combine. His time of 4.46 seconds was equal to the fastest defensive players invited to Indianapolis and was a full tenth of a second faster than the quickest linebacker. His vertical jump of 39 inches was two inches better than any of the combine’s linebackers.

Still his critics were loud, explaining Williams' impressive numbers away by mentioning the hardwood basketball court in Western Hall, to which they typically add .10 seconds.

So Williams arrived 10 days later as the main attraction at Northwestern University's Pro Day to find 17 NFL teams, this time including several linebackers coaches, awaiting his arrival. He helped his stock tremendously, running the 40 in 4.42 seconds on a much slower indoor artificial surface.

Then the personal requests began pouring in. At first eight, then nine, then double digits.

As the nation's most-traveled college senior continued his trek to all four corners of the country, web sites and newspapers started to tout Williams' name and numbers.

He was recently listed by The Sports Network as the eighth-best overall FCS player, and second-best FCS defender, in the draft. Josh Buchanan's NFL Draft Bible listed Williams as the seventh small-school prospect. NFL Draft Scout, the official scouting service of USA Today, said Williams is the ninth-best outside linebacker in the draft at any level. Several publications have written Williams will be the first player not invited to the combine to be drafted, some predicting he will go as high as the third round, and nearly all saying he will be selected by the fifth.

A Blue-Collar Mentality

NFL teams love speed and they love character. Williams has both. His proven athleticism combined with his lack of off-the-field troubles, two things that can't be taught, have made him an ideal interview.

His strong work ethic and character have been put to good use over the past three summers teaching football fundamentals to grade school and junior high children at the Chicago Bears Youth Football Camp. What started out as a summer job turned into an enjoyable experience for Williams, who says his heart for kids and for coaching made for a good fit.

"I can see myself doing some similar work in the NFL," he said. "something with inner-city kids and coaching for sure.

"Being a Leatherneck means being a blue collar guy, taking your lunch pail and helmet to work and getting the job done. We work hard at Western. We may not have the bright lights and the budget of a lot of other programs, but we take what we have and we play hard."

Hard work and football are what allowed Williams to grow up through the challenges of an inner-city Chicago neighborhood that most people would call rough.

"Football kept me grounded and kept me focused on something other than what was going on around me. I wouldn't say that's what necessarily kept me out of trouble, but it gave me something else to focus on when things were pretty rough all around me."

Williams was faced with the toughest challenge of his life as he prepared to enter his freshman year at Chicago's DuSable High School - the tragic loss of his father.

"I was naturally in shock for quite a while and I didn't really accept it right away. But it became a source of motivation for me."

Motivation is innate in Williams and surfaces immediately when he is challenged.

When Western Illinois defensive coordinator Thomas Casey was hired four years ago he began searching for an identity for Williams, keying in on the one place where the tremendous athlete could be used most effectively. A high school quarterback, Williams had been signed by the Leathernecks as an athlete, on a partial scholarship. He spent his redshirt season on the scout team as a running back, then was moved to strong safety for his freshman season. It was as a sophomore linebacker that Williams started to blossom, becoming the only linebacker that season to start all 11 games.

It was then that a little attention began to be turned Williams' way. In his second season ever playing linebacker, he was named to all-America teams by the AFCA, the Associated Press and the Sports Network, and was the runner-up for the Gateway Conference Defensive Player of the Year Award after leading the league in sacks, tackles for loss and forced fumbles. But there was still some unfinished business.

Casey had been riding the junior about the school's forced fumbles record, a mark which had been set by a teammate one year earlier. Every time Williams began to swell with pride ever so slightly about his accolades, Casey was right next to him to remind him of the record he didn't yet hold.

The result was a staggering 11 forced fumbles in his final two college seasons - numbers which earned him a plaque from the NCAA which reads "2008 STATISTICAL CHAMPION." His 14 career forced fumbles set an FCS record and tied the all-time all-division NCAA mark.

The NFL has always been a dream and a challenge ahead of Williams, so much so that he can't come up with an answer to what he would do if professional football was not an option.

He is now looking forward to the challenge of being a true linebacker in the NFL, having bounced from position to position and having only three years of experience at linebacker to his credit.

Williams hopes to follow a large number of Leathernecks who have had success in the NFL, including safety Rodney Harrison (New England), linebacker Bryan Cox (retired), offensive guard Rich Seubert (NY Giants) and punter Mike Scifres (San Diego). Thirty-three have been selected in the NFL Draft. Nine have won Super Bowl titles. And four have earned Pro Bowl status.

One Last Challenge

The last five years at Western Illinois have provided Williams with a building experience for sure. The cultural challenges of moving from the inner city of Chicago to rural central Illinois are many. And the challenges associated with a Division I football career and academics are countless.

"Being here has helped me grow a lot as a person and a football player," said Williams. "My independence has grown since I have had to make decisions for myself, being away from my family. And the level of football was obviously a lot higher than what I was used to, and it's going to translate very well to the NFL."

Through it all, Williams has taken a head-on approach, developing a strong work ethic that will prove beneficial for the challenges of the next level.

All of his travel has provided Williams with one last challenge in his college career - graduation. This month he has had to keep in touch with his professors, who have been very understanding and accommodating, through e-mail, contacting them on Sunday nights to discuss assignments for the week. He has done the majority of his work on-line in airports and hotels, and turns in any other assignments as soon as he returns to Macomb at the end of the week.

Williams will graduate in May with a degree in exercise science and a minor in nutrition, fulfilling a promise he made to his mother a long time ago.

"Momma Williams does not play," Williams said with a laugh. "Not graduating has never been an option.

"I really don't know what I have to do for football (after all the official visits end April 17), but I know I've got two comp tests next week and another one I have to make up.

"I'm leaving Western on great terms. I hope to still have a positive relationship with them and the community in the future."

By the way, J-Will's number of fans on Twitter has climbed to 78 by the time this article is complete - numbers that are piling up almost as fast as his frequent flier miles.

 

[Ariakis]

These might be good players but it's VERY unlikely they wouldn't have been there both of them even a round later if not more. Why not use those picks to trade up for someone you ARE happy with? Why not take PBA early and your fliers late like most teams?

 

[cowboysin07]

Atleast we aren't the Broncos or Raiders ... but this is pretty darn close.

I'd rather have Moore than both of these scrubs.

Would you please provide your scouting reports on Moore, Brewster, and Williams or are you just going off of what Mel Kiper said about the Cowboys picks?

Sure.Let me start with Moore. Very talented safety, great athlete, ballhawk, and fits a need. I watched him nearly every week and would of been a great fit in our system. Oh, and he was available.Williams.........230 lb OLB?? From Nothern Illinois?? Does not fit a need and could of been had later.Brewster. To be honest I don't know much about him. I do however know that we drafted a few young tackles/guards in the past 2 years that I though we were going to evaluate. All in all, IMO we passed on someone who will be a stud DB in the league for a special teams player and a backup lineman.

 

[Bankerguy]

I'll be honest I don't know much about our last pick, but I would have likely rather had Robinsin or Johnson at Guard.

Cobalt...yup I said "we". I'm one of those guys.

 

[simmonjm]

#75. OT Robert Brewster

Apparently, the Cowboys are all set at Safety.

Dude releax its not like Rashad Johnson is the only safety left in the draft.

Dude I know. It's not like Brewster was the only OT left in the draft either. On the hierarchy of needs, defensive secondary was absolutely number one, followed by everything else, including O-line.Terrible draft management starting yesterday and continuing today.

Alright help me figure this out we have Flo and Columbo as starting OT's and Hamlin and Sensabaugh as starting S's. Behind both positions depth is scarce. Its not like Rashad Johnson is going to come in and start over Sensabaugh, so drafting an OT is merely filling in depth based on how they percieve value. Brewster is rated higher then Johnson pure and simple, while you may not like this answer it is what it is.

 

[cobalt_27]

I'll be honest I don't know much about our last pick, but I would have likely rather had Robinsin or Johnson at Guard.

Cobalt...yup I said "we". I'm one of those guys.

Ok. Then we are having an pitiful 2009 draft, thus far.

 

[simmonjm]

Atleast we aren't the Broncos or Raiders ... but this is pretty darn close.

I'd rather have Moore than both of these scrubs.

Would you please provide your scouting reports on Moore, Brewster, and Williams or are you just going off of what Mel Kiper said about the Cowboys picks?

Sure.Let me start with Moore. Very talented safety, great athlete, ballhawk, and fits a need. I watched him nearly every week and would of been a great fit in our system. Oh, and he was available.Williams.........230 lb OLB?? From Nothern Illinois?? Does not fit a need and could of been had later.Brewster. To be honest I don't know much about him. I do however know that we drafted a few young tackles/guards in the past 2 years that I though we were going to evaluate. All in all, IMO we passed on someone who will be a stud DB in the league for a special teams player and a backup lineman.

Look I will agree with you that in his junior year William Moore was amazing and looked to be a special safety but his play fell off dramatically, he was drafted in the 2nd based on his junior year and not his senior year. Williams fills a need he can cover so you will see him filling in for Burnett old's role; Nickel LB. Which let me remind is a position of need. Without Williams you would have Carp there and I dont think anyone would be comfortable giving him a job at this point.

 

[Texasmouth]

I guess the Cowboys are pretty confident in the free agent moves they have made so far. Not sure about either of these players. With such a talented team in place, it doesnt seem like there is enough room for some projects to make the team.

 

[cobalt_27]

Alright help me figure this out we have Flo and Columbo as starting OT's and Hamlin and Sensabaugh as starting S's. Behind both positions depth is scarce. Its not like Rashad Johnson is going to come in and start over Sensabaugh, so drafting an OT is merely filling in depth based on how they percieve value. Brewster is rated higher then Johnson pure and simple, while you may not like this answer it is what it is.

Brewster rated higher than Johnson? Where are you getting that? At least by the Scouts.Inc metrics, he absolutely is not. Brewster Grade: 52Johnson Grade: 86Sensabaugh is a very short-term answer and could be even shorter if/when he gets arrested again. If you are happy with this Safety situation, then I don't know what to say. I'm much more comfortable with the O-line than the defensive secondary.

 

[SPM]

Alright help me figure this out we have Flo and Columbo as starting OT's and Hamlin and Sensabaugh as starting S's. Behind both positions depth is scarce. Its not like Rashad Johnson is going to come in and start over Sensabaugh, so drafting an OT is merely filling in depth based on how they percieve value. Brewster is rated higher then Johnson pure and simple, while you may not like this answer it is what it is.

Brewster rated higher than Johnson? Where are you getting that? At least by the Scouts.Inc metrics, he absolutely is not. Brewster Grade: 52Johnson Grade: 86Sensabaugh is a very short-term answer and could be even shorter if/when he gets arrested again. If you are happy with this Safety situation, then I don't know what to say. I'm much more comfortable with the O-line than the defensive secondary.

The Cowboys are the only ones to have him rated higher

 

[cowboysin07]

Atleast we aren't the Broncos or Raiders ... but this is pretty darn close.

I'd rather have Moore than both of these scrubs.

Would you please provide your scouting reports on Moore, Brewster, and Williams or are you just going off of what Mel Kiper said about the Cowboys picks?

Sure.Let me start with Moore. Very talented safety, great athlete, ballhawk, and fits a need. I watched him nearly every week and would of been a great fit in our system. Oh, and he was available.Williams.........230 lb OLB?? From Nothern Illinois?? Does not fit a need and could of been had later.Brewster. To be honest I don't know much about him. I do however know that we drafted a few young tackles/guards in the past 2 years that I though we were going to evaluate. All in all, IMO we passed on someone who will be a stud DB in the league for a special teams player and a backup lineman.

Look I will agree with you that in his junior year William Moore was amazing and looked to be a special safety but his play fell off dramatically, he was drafted in the 2nd based on his junior year and not his senior year. Williams fills a need he can cover so you will see him filling in for Burnett old's role; Nickel LB. Which let me remind is a position of need. Without Williams you would have Carp there and I dont think anyone would be comfortable giving him a job at this point.

I guess we'll agree to disagree. If there is one thing I trust Bobby F'n Carpentor to do it's being a coverage linebacker. I'd go as far as to have this Cal Poly Receiver over both our picks.

 

[Bankerguy]

Rashad Johnson fell to the late 3rd and early 4th in a sew mocks I participated in. Obviously other teams aren't killing themselves to grab Johnson either. For me- I do like the kid for the record. My third round pick with him was that of need.

 

[Texasmouth]

Sure wish the Cowboys would have traded some of these junk picks to move up and get Chung yesterday.

 

[T Bell]

T BellWell, me providing some evidence that I liked the guy seemed reasonable. It wasn't about chest thumping and "LOOK AT ME". Most know that I'm not like that.As I am sure you know draft risers are sometimes hard to project round. Since it was the first pick of the fourth. I missed by about 25 picks. Sorry about that Yes he is raw, but you can't coach talent. I think he will play inside and likely in the nickel. Will be a great blitzer on third downs.

You're right about the context of your prediction, and I agree you're not a braggart. It's why I like you and enjoy our discussions/debates. (And BTW I'm not chest thumping about the Redskins' Barnes pick - it looks to me like he was taken too early, and that they could have gotten a decent OL here instead.) Still, you predicted a pick of this guy you liked a round later. It's not because you were picking out of a hat, it's because that's about where a team liking him could reasonably have nabbed him. The Cowboys chose him a round early. With 12 picks today, that's not necessarily a disaster, but . . .The Cowboys have now chosen two guys who were relatively unheralded players who "rose up the draft boards" during the Combine and workout phase, which to me is always a worrisome thing that suggests a fixation on measurables rather than football ability. Both guys were also chosen earlier than it seems they safely could have been chosen. Again, I'm reserving judgment about the draft overall, but that's my impression of these two picks.

 

[simmonjm]

Wow you guys listen to much to ESPN. So what if Dallas had a higher grade on Brewster? You realize these same scouts had one of the BEST drafts in the NFL last year. I will defer to thier expertise instead of panicking because scouts inc doesnt have Brewster rated as high as R. Johnson. Answer this would you be comfortable with a starting S tandem of Hamlin and Watkins or starting OT tandem of Columbo and Free assuming an injury took place. Its painfully obvious to me that OT is a position of need; IMO its the biggest need especially when you consider 6 games are against NFC d-lines that feature, Haynesworth, Orakpo, Osi, Tuck, Kiwi, Cole, etc.

 

[Andy Herron]

From one of the Cowboys scouts regarding Brewster, currently being interviewed.

Played in a pro style offense at RT for Ball State. Never missed a game, 45-47 games played. Versatile enough to play guard. Athletic. Plays with alot of heart.

 

[SPM]

Wow you guys listen to much to ESPN. So what if Dallas had a higher grade on Brewster? You realize these same scouts had one of the BEST drafts in the NFL last year. I will defer to thier expertise instead of panicking because scouts inc doesnt have Brewster rated as high as R. Johnson. Answer this would you be comfortable with a starting S tandem of Hamlin and Watkins or starting OT tandem of Columbo and Free assuming an injury took place. Its painfully obvious to me that OT is a position of need; IMO its the biggest need especially when you consider 6 games are against NFC d-lines that feature, Haynesworth, Orakpo, Osi, Tuck, Kiwi, Cole, etc.

That's true but Brewster doesn't project as a tackle