***OFFICIAL 2009 NFL DRAFT*** (2 Viewers)

[GroveDiesel]

Hmmm. So the Bills gave up their first 4th round pick to move up about 20 picks from the 3rd round to the 2nd. I guess I can live with that.

 

[stp-d]

plz mccoy or gilbert

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

McCoy to Philly.

I'd have preferred a trade down to get a 3rd/4th.

 

[Marc Levin]

Hmmm. So the Bills gave up their first 4th round pick to move up about 20 picks from the 3rd round to the 2nd. I guess I can live with that.

They need OLs and now is when all the guards start to go - I remember watching the 'phins a couple, maybe three, years ago losing out on guards they needed because they didn't pick in the 2nd.

 

[QuizGuy66]

So how many of you guys are going to sit by the phone all today tomorrow on the chance the Raiders pick you?-QG

This got our entire draft party QG on a roll...

 

[GroveDiesel]

Why would the 'boys trade all the way to day two - - voluntarily?

Yeah, talk about an unbelievably boring day if you're a Cowboys fan. They had one pick on the first day and they end up trading it for a second day pick.

 

[stp-d]

McCoy is a BEAST. Iggles going WR-RB on day one. Love it.

great day

 

[Marc Levin]

McCoy is a BEAST. Iggles going WR-RB on day one. Love it.

They are now pretty well loaded at offensive skill spots - and OL/DL.Eagles could be pretty competitive this year if McNabb stays healthy

 

[Oof!]

Why would the 'boys trade all the way to day two - - voluntarily?

Yeah, talk about an unbelievably boring day if you're a Cowboys fan. They had one pick on the first day and they end up trading it for a second day pick.

Zzzz...

 

[GroveDiesel]

Bills on the clock Don't blow it

Levitre. They must feel pretty good about Walker, Chambers, Bell at OT. Now, they've made some big upgrades to the interior of the line with Wood and Levitre.

I think the Bills may be way higher on Bell than most people realize. And despite lots of people thinking Walker is too big to play LT, he has pretty quick feet and did a pretty good job over there filling in for Peters early in the season IMO. Just from things Chris Brown at BB.com kept saying, I didn't think that OT was going to be a priority.

 

[Marc Levin]

Why would the 'boys trade all the way to day two - - voluntarily?

Yeah, talk about an unbelievably boring day if you're a Cowboys fan. They had one pick on the first day and they end up trading it for a second day pick.

Same if you are a Bears fan

 

[TwinTurbo]

Loadholt is a solid pick by the Vikes.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

So I don't know whether I should be taking a bow because I picked the Vikings picks in Shark Pool Mock Draft V.2, or if the Vikings should be embarrassed that a school teacher from South Dakota can make the same picks as they do!?!?!?

 

[Marc Levin]

Gotta think phins go LB or OL depth here.

 

[Balco]

Loadholt is a solid pick by the Vikes.

He definitely can't play left tackle in teh pros, but should be alright at RT. He is going to really struggle pass blocking against NFL d ends, however. I thought this was a little early for him.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Falcons had a real good day with Moore and Jerry.

 

[Bonzai]

So how many of you guys are going to sit by the phone all today tomorrow on the chance the Raiders pick you?-QG

lol

 

[saintfool]

Falcons had a real good day with Moore and Jerry.

i am not as high on moore as some but i think these are good picks nonetheless.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Why would the 'boys trade all the way to day two - - voluntarily?

Yeah, talk about an unbelievably boring day if you're a Cowboys fan. They had one pick on the first day and they end up trading it for a second day pick.

Same if you are a Bears fan

Maybe because in this weak draft the first 2 rounds' picks are overvalued?I can see taking some shots at Players 70-100 on your board and pushing picks into 2010.

 

[Ariakis]

Why would Dallas pass on William Moore for 2nd day picks? They are up to 12 picks none in the 1st or 2nd.

 

[Buckfast 1]

Falcons had a real good day with Moore and Jerry.

Yeah, I agree. They filled their desperate needs with players that a lot of people didn't expect to still be around at that time.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Here's a youtube video of Michael Mitchell, complete with really bad soundtrack:

-QG

 

[stp-d]

Falcons had a real good day with Moore and Jerry.

which Moore did they take?

 

[JZilla]

Here's a youtube video of Michael Mitchell, complete with really bad soundtrack:

If by really bad you mean mad fly

 

[HellToupee]

Here's a youtube video of Michael Mitchell, complete with really bad soundtrack:

ESPN should have played that

 

[QuizGuy66]

 

[Jason Wood]

Was arguing for the Birds to take either Brown [if he were there, pipe dream] or McCoy in the 2nd all along and they did it

McCoy is perfect for us, he's not going to ruffle Westy's feathers this year, but should be a major upgrade over Lorenzo Booker and could easily start for us for years given his talent level. Giddy.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Hoping the Raiders trade up to grab Drew Willy here.

 

[TwinTurbo]

I'm interested to see if anyone drafts Cornelius Ingram in the 2nd. That guy looks like a potential beast at TE, although he's a project.

 

[Jason Wood]

I'm thinking those who were arguing the Broncos and Bills front offices knew what they were doing with those Cutler/Peters trades are SERIOUSLY rethinking their stances now

 

[QuizGuy66]

Okay actually found an article on the kid. Choice quote:

"Once considered an undrafted free agent by NFL scouts, Mitchell's draft stock is on the rise and now has a legitimate shot of hearing his name called on Day 2 of the draft. I had one scout tell me that Mitchell could be a guy like Indianapolis Colts safety Antoine Bethea, who was a little-known safety out of Howard University, but was selected in the sixth round by the Colts in 2006. Bethea was an impact player as a rookie for Indy. The Colts are among the teams showing interest in the safety."

Link To Article with a lot about the kid

-QG

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

I'm thinking those who were arguing the Broncos and Bills front offices knew what they were doing with those Cutler/Peters trades are SERIOUSLY rethinking their stances now

Bills added some quality players here.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Falcons had a real good day with Moore and Jerry.

which Moore did they take?

William Moore

 

[Steve Tasker]

I'm thinking those who were arguing the Broncos and Bills front offices knew what they were doing with those Cutler/Peters trades are SERIOUSLY rethinking their stances now

Bills added some quality players here.

Hopefully they'll be willing to play as well, unlike Peters.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Here's a youtube video of Michael Mitchell, complete with really bad soundtrack:

The sheer amount of comments by people wanting the Raiders to draft the kid (I don't mean today, I mean the 1-2 weeks ago) makes me genuninely wonder if Al Davis is using youtube for his scouting...-QG

 

[Jason Wood]

I'm thinking those who were arguing the Broncos and Bills front offices knew what they were doing with those Cutler/Peters trades are SERIOUSLY rethinking their stances now

Bills added some quality players here.

IMHO...you took the 3rd best rookie center as a swap for a All Pro left tackle, took a high bust stiff pass rusher [i really don't like Maybin], took a guard that ranked 4th on Bloom's IL list, and a DB who was the 10th ranked CB on Bloom's board and probably has to play S in the NFL.

 

[Jason Wood]

Boy is it stunning how dry and boring the ESPN draft coverage is in comparison to the NFL Networks? I was flipping back and forth but have stuck with NFLN the last hour or so b/c ESPN just has no energy.

 

[Jason Wood]

As others have said, the Patriots are friggin SICK. Just forcing their will on this draft. Wow.

 

[HellToupee]

I'm surprised Michael Johnson's athleticism hasn't gotten him drafted by now

 

[PatsWillWin]

I'm surprised Michael Johnson's athleticism hasn't gotten him drafted by now

 

[Jason Wood]

Giants quietly had a really nice first day. Get a polished wideout who might contribute as a rookie, a LB who should compete for PT, and a OT that some thought might sneak into the 1st round and upgrades them at the swing tackle.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

I'm thinking those who were arguing the Broncos and Bills front offices knew what they were doing with those Cutler/Peters trades are SERIOUSLY rethinking their stances now

Bills added some quality players here.

IMHO...you took the 3rd best rookie center as a swap for a All Pro left tackle, took a high bust stiff pass rusher [i really don't like Maybin], took a guard that ranked 4th on Bloom's IL list, and a DB who was the 10th ranked CB on Bloom's board and probably has to play S in the NFL.

that's cool. I disagree on a few of those points.Maybin could bust but he fills a glaring need on this team and could turn out to be the best pure pass rusher in this class. He's still young but his first step is pretty ridiculous. I would have preferred Orakpo as a better all-around player though.

Not sure how Wood/Levitre will fit in but they have dramatically improved the depth/talent on the interior of the line. Levitre was pretty widely regarded as the best guard in a weak class. Wood for Peters is an awful swap, but given that Peters signed in Philadelphia for about the same amount of money the Bills were offering means he pretty much forced his way out of town. Crazy as it sounds, the Bills did play better with him out of the lineup last year. It also means the Bills feel very good about Demetrius Bell developing into a quality tackle. They already turned Peters from an undrafted free agent into an All Pro. Maybe they'll get lucky again.

I think Byrd is a prototypical cover 2 CB but if he becomes an impact FS, that also fills a huge need for the team.

I'm not crazy about the draft, but I don't think it's been terrible. The Peters trade sucked, but I didn't expect them to replace him here anyway.

Is Bloom the best/only talent evaluator worth considering here? What did Mayock think of these guys?

EDIT to Add Mayock's rankings:

Levitre = #1 guard

Wood = #2 center

Maybin = #5 OLB

Byrd = #5 CB

other than Maybin, looks like Mayock and the Bills were in pretty close agreement here. and he had Maybin ranked even with Larry English who the Chargers drafted 5 picks later.

 

[Balco]

Giants quietly had a really nice first day. Get a polished wideout who might contribute as a rookie, a LB who should compete for PT, and a OT that some thought might sneak into the 1st round and upgrades them at the swing tackle.

Beatty would get devoured at right tackle. He is strictly a left tackle prospect, and really needs to get stronger, but he has all the tools to be a starter at left tackle at some point in his career.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Rounds 1 and 2 are quicker than Round 1 in 2007 - Under 6 hours.

 

[Bri]

As I said weeks ago, Childress was just smitten at Oklahoma pro day. Wouldn't be surprised if more sooners go block for Adrian than just Loadholt. Surprised Robinson is still available. Childress followed "the other guard" around and I'll be surprised if the Vikes don't draft him.

 

[Balco]

As I said weeks ago, Childress was just smitten at Oklahoma pro day. Wouldn't be surprised if more sooners go block for Adrian than just Loadholt. Surprised Robinson is still available. Childress followed "the other guard" around and I'll be surprised if the Vikes don't draft him.

Robinson is just not very athletic. Strong player when he gets a hold of you, but he struggles big time when he is asked to move in space.

 

[Bri]

Giants quietly had a really nice first day. Get a polished wideout who might contribute as a rookie, a LB who should compete for PT, and a OT that some thought might sneak into the 1st round and upgrades them at the swing tackle.

totally agree and after being buried on the depth chart in 08, manningham will seem like another rookie draft pick in 09

 

[Jason Wood]

Parcells taking two CBs in the first two rounds. Interesting.

 

[Trey]

Parcells taking two CBs in the first two rounds. Interesting.

I don't believe he thought Smith would still be there at this point.

 

[GroveDiesel]

I'm thinking those who were arguing the Broncos and Bills front offices knew what they were doing with those Cutler/Peters trades are SERIOUSLY rethinking their stances now

I don't think any Bills fans were happy with the trade. I think all of us felt like they could/should have gotten more. And, no offense to Bloom, but he's not the be all/end all of talent evaluators. He's pretty good and much better than just about anyone here, but only time will tell on Buffalo's picks. They had major holes on the offensive line and the DE position and they've added 2 guys to the O-line and a guy that has the ability to be a Dwight Freeney at the DE position. I think that the Jairus Byrd pick wasn't very good, but they could use a ballhawk like Byrd in the secondary.