I'm sure they explored it but you can't go wrong NOT trading up and having that guy fall right into your lap. This day should shut donovan up for the offseason. I was listening to a little sports talk radio in between the 1st and 2nd round and they were talking about trading up to make sure they got him (it was Sal Palontonio). Great fortune to have this play out like this.McCoy to Philly.I'd have preferred a trade down to get a 3rd/4th.
Disagree. I'd rather have Roy Williams for a low 1st round pick than Heyward-Bay at the #7 spot. And I think not picking in the 2nd round is better than picking the 30th ranked safety.As crazy as this might sound, Al Davis had a better draft than Jerry Jones today. At least the Raiders came away something, even if it was a pile of garbage. The Cowboys didn't even get that.
I disagree. The Cowboys have 12 picks tomorrow so they can basically grab anyone they want within reason. They will likely come away with a number of contributors but don't have to pay any of them big money. Meanwhile Davis has to pay Darrius Heyward-Bay 7th overall loot, and 2nd round money for a guy that was considered a street free agent until running a fast time three weeks ago.As crazy as this might sound, Al Davis had a better draft than Jerry Jones today. At least the Raiders came away something, even if it was a pile of garbage. The Cowboys didn't even get that.
Well, Jerry is doing his presser right now, and he's very excited about tomorrow because some guys are available who can get on the field for special teams. So, perhaps you're right. The Cowboys will get exactly what they're gonna' pay for.I disagree. The Cowboys have 12 picks tomorrow so they can basically grab anyone they want within reason. They will likely come away with a number of contributors but don't have to pay any of them big money. Meanwhile Davis has to pay Darrius Heyward-Bay 7th overall loot, and 2nd round money for a guy that was considered a street free agent until running a fast time three weeks ago.As crazy as this might sound, Al Davis had a better draft than Jerry Jones today. At least the Raiders came away something, even if it was a pile of garbage. The Cowboys didn't even get that.
Are you serious?As crazy as this might sound, Al Davis had a better draft than Jerry Jones today. At least the Raiders came away something, even if it was a pile of garbage. The Cowboys didn't even get that.
I know. I'm just disappointed. The Cowboys had the opportunity to fill a huge need at SS and sat twiddling their thumbs.Disagree. I'd rather have Roy Williams for a low 1st round pick than Heyward-Bay at the #7 spot. And I think not picking in the 2nd round is better than picking the 30th ranked safety.As crazy as this might sound, Al Davis had a better draft than Jerry Jones today. At least the Raiders came away something, even if it was a pile of garbage. The Cowboys didn't even get that.
Not really. Maybe they'll find a gem tomorrow. It was just disappointing to see a lot of guys taken in the 2nd that they missed out on.Are you serious?As crazy as this might sound, Al Davis had a better draft than Jerry Jones today. At least the Raiders came away something, even if it was a pile of garbage. The Cowboys didn't even get that.
Some decent finds recently. But, still...Looks like the Cowboys can expect 1 (maybe 2) impact players out of the 12 they'll be drafting.1 2008 4 122 Tashard Choice
2 2008 5 143 Orlando Scandrick
3 2008 6 167 Erik Walden
4 2007 3 67 James Marten
5 2007 4 103 Isaiah Stanback
6 2007 4 122 Doug Free
7 2007 6 178 Nick Folk
8 2007 6 185 Deon Anderson
9 2007 7 212 Courtney L. Brown
10 2007 7 237 Alan Ball
11 2006 3 92 Jason Hatcher
12 2006 4 125 Skyler Green
13 2006 5 138 Pat Watkins
14 2006 6 182 Montavious Stanley
15 2006 7 211 Pat McQuistan
16 2006 7 224 E.J. Whitley
17 2005 4 109 Marion Barber
18 2005 4 132 Chris L. Canty
19 2005 6 208 Justin Beriault
20 2005 6 209 Rob Petitti
21 2005 7 224 Jay Ratliff
22 2004 3 83 Stephen Peterman
23 2004 4 121 Bruce Thornton
24 2004 5 144 Sean Ryan
25 2004 7 205 Nate Jones
26 2004 7 216 Patrick Crayton
27 2004 7 223 Jacques Reeves
28 2003 3 69 Jason Witten
29 2003 4 103 Bradie James
30 2003 6 178 B.J. Tucker
31 2003 6 186 Zuriel Smith
32 2003 7 219 Justin Bates
33 2002 3 75 Derek Ross
34 2002 4 129 Jamar Martin
35 2002 5 168 Pete Hunter
36 2002 6 179 Tyson Walter
37 2002 6 208 DeVeren Johnson
38 2002 6 211 Bob Slowikowski
39 2001 3 93 Willie Blade
40 2001 4 122 Markus Steele
41 2001 5 137 Matt Lehr
42 2001 6 171 Daleroy Stewart
43 2001 7 207 Colston Weatherington
44 2001 7 240 John Nix
45 2001 7 242 Char-ron Dorsey
46 2000 4 109 Kareem Larrimore
47 2000 5 144 Michael Wiley
48 2000 6 180 Mario Edwards
49 2000 7 219 Orantes Grant
a few months ago I wrote of having had a similar reaction...my take on mcdanielswatching mcdaniels on NFLN now. first time i've seen him speak. he strikes me as a guy who is in over his head and knows it. seemed nervous.
yep, just went and read what you wrote -- we're definitely on the same page here. the guy does not appear to be authoritative, and he appears to lack confidence. it's not the words -- it's the body language and the tone.a few months ago I wrote of having had a similar reaction...my take on mcdanielswatching mcdaniels on NFLN now. first time i've seen him speak. he strikes me as a guy who is in over his head and knows it. seemed nervous.
What is deja vu?the Raiders should win the bronze in the 4x100 this year
according to my paper espn coverages starts at 10am edt tomorow.-QG10est/7pst tomorrow?
according to my paper espn coverages starts at 10am edt tomorow.-QG10est/7pst tomorrow?
Thanks.no problemaccording to my paper espn coverages starts at 10am edt tomorow.-QG10est/7pst tomorrow?Thanks.
the one downside is, I can't sleep in tomorrow.Who are you kidding? You'll be up early.no problemaccording to my paper espn coverages starts at 10am edt tomorow.-QG10est/7pst tomorrow?Thanks.
the one downside is, I can't sleep in tomorrow.
The "not even graded" also shows an error by whatever source you're referring to. I'm pretty sure they figured they'd have everyone that would go and this is a pretty big oops some boss is grumpy about. Reach or no reach someone was paid to provide info on the picks.(As I said earlier) Mayock had him as a 7th rounder according to Eisen's tweet.15 Michael Mitchell DB Raiders -- Not even graded! Al Davis you are a true maverick!
Yahoo didn't have an item on him.CNNSI had to add him to their chart of safeties in their rankings.The "not even graded" also shows an error by whatever source you're referring to. I'm pretty sure they figured they'd have everyone that would go and this is a pretty big oops some boss is grumpy about. Reach or no reach someone was paid to provide info on the picks.(As I said earlier) Mayock had him as a 7th rounder according to Eisen's tweet.15 Michael Mitchell DB Raiders -- Not even graded! Al Davis you are a true maverick!
Impressive!Draftguys Love HimPats surprised me with Sebastian Vollmer when Beatty and Jaron Gilbert were still on the board. I hadnt heard any predraft buzz on Vollmer.
We'll see, but I love the pick. The Ravens addressed their biggest need without having to reach. There are some concerns about his ability to learn quickly, but in Ozzie & Eric I trust. I'm willing to believe at this point that his background is the cause for his issues & not necessarily a lack of intelligence.If I'm Harbaugh, I tell Oher "See that dorky-looking kid behind you with the ball? Don't let anyone touch him."TwinTurbo said:The Ravens just got the steal of the draft. Absolute steal. You suck Detroit.
IF boss = fan then you are correct. I am pissed if I am a Raiders fan.The "not even graded" also shows an error by whatever source you're referring to. I'm pretty sure they figured they'd have everyone that would go and this is a pretty big oops some boss is grumpy about. Reach or no reach someone was paid to provide info on the picks.(As I said earlier) Mayock had him as a 7th rounder according to Eisen's tweet.15 Michael Mitchell DB Raiders -- Not even graded! Al Davis you are a true maverick!
My wife (who likes football) was watching NFLN's recap with me last night and commented that "Gruden looks like a really fun guy to hang out with." I said yeah, "He's entertaining there, but he's very intense and has got quite an ego, and I'd hate to work with him. I think he's fun and relaxed on the broadcast because he doesn't see himself as a broadcaster or commentator." I agree though, he was a lot of fun to watch and added some good laughs to a broadcast that has a tendency to take itself too seriously.Gruden was great today. NFLN needs to keep him.
I got on the Lions for their non-pick of Oher, but upon reconsideration I really like what the Lions are doing. This is smart, patient drafting by a team that has a LOT of needs and knows that they can't expect to fill them all in a single draft. I would think that a fan of a team with a similarly disciplined approach, like the Ravens with Ozzie Newsome, might show a little more appreciation of that.TwinTurbo said:The Ravens just got the steal of the draft. Absolute steal. You suck Detroit.
well then IMO Sportsline and Mayock did a good job. Unsure on cnnsi. Yahoo, not so much. This is a good thing for us. If these sites have 500(?) players ready to be filled in on draft day, then it'll be 600(?) next year. I really think there's bosses of sites out there that don't want this to ever happen again.Yahoo didn't have an item on him.CNNSI had to add him to their chart of safeties in their rankings.The "not even graded" also shows an error by whatever source you're referring to. I'm pretty sure they figured they'd have everyone that would go and this is a pretty big oops some boss is grumpy about. Reach or no reach someone was paid to provide info on the picks.(As I said earlier) Mayock had him as a 7th rounder according to Eisen's tweet.15 Michael Mitchell DB Raiders -- Not even graded! Al Davis you are a true maverick!
Sportsline had him projected in Round 6, but like yahoo had nothing on him (i.e. no hyperlink).
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Here's one Ravens fan who understands what Detroit is doing. And I'll still understand it if Stafford busts. I personally, the older I get and the more I watch football, think you build a team fron the inside out and defense over offense. But I think Mayhew needs this team to at least try to make a splash with the #1.T Bell said:I got on the Lions for their non-pick of Oher, but upon reconsideration I really like what the Lions are doing. This is smart, patient drafting by a team that has a LOT of needs and knows that they can't expect to fill them all in a single draft. I would think that a fan of a team with a similarly disciplined approach, like the Ravens with Ozzie Newsome, might show a little more appreciation of that.TwinTurbo said:The Ravens just got the steal of the draft. Absolute steal. You suck Detroit.
Blücher!anyone record the draft?i'd like to know how many times the name Mark Sanchez was mentioned in the past 2 days. has to be well in to the hundreds at least.
Blücher!anyone record the draft?i'd like to know how many times the name Mark Sanchez was mentioned in the past 2 days. has to be well in to the hundreds at least.

"Runningback by Posse" or "Runningback by Entourage"RBBC in Denver?Wait, what's bigger than a committee?
personally, i can't wait until berman says mark "dirty" sanchez in the sunday recap show...anyone record the draft?
i'd like to know how many times the name Mark Sanchez was mentioned in the past 2 days. has to be well in to the hundreds at least.