****OFFICIAL 2009 Off Season Washington Redskins Thread**** (1 Viewer)

[southeastjerome]

Pick traded to Vikings

anyone know what we got for the pick?

Dropped back to 158 and recouped the 7th rounder we gave the Vikes for Erasmus James.

 

[southeastjerome]

And the oline ignored yet again! Cody Glenn LB

 

[PatsWillWin]

Soooo how does Jason Campbell feel about the Redskins basically spending all off-season pursuing better QB's?

 

[T Bell]

Soooo how does Jason Campbell feel about the Redskins basically spending all off-season pursuing better QB's?

We'll find out over time, especially if he has a good year. If he has a bad year he was going to be gone anyway.

 

[T Bell]

And the oline ignored yet again! Cody Glenn LB

I don't like it. Sounds like Robert McCune II.

 

[mcintyre1]

Posted in draft thread:

A bit curious that Cody Glenn was the first Husker taken... he's a coverted RB that hadn't played LB until this season. Also was essentially kicked off the team for unreleased reasons (I heard rumors it was academic cheating, but it was never substantiated).

He does have talent as an undersized LB, though. He was leading the team in tackles before his suspension.

 

[crnerblitz]

Soooo how does Jason Campbell feel about the Redskins basically spending all off-season pursuing better QB's?

I know New Englanders aren't known for their smarts, but I imagine that you would have more luck getting Jason Cambell to answer that question if it was posted at a website he is likely to frequent instead of trolling the Redskins thread at FBG. Stay Classy New England.

 

[southeastjerome]

Soooo how does Jason Campbell feel about the Redskins basically spending all off-season pursuing better QB's?

I know New Englanders aren't known for their smarts, but I imagine that you would have more luck getting Jason Cambell to answer that question if it was posted at a website he is likely to frequent instead of trolling the Redskins thread at FBG. Stay Classy New England.

Easy on the anti New Englander comments!

 

[southeastjerome]

Posted in draft thread:A bit curious that Cody Glenn was the first Husker taken... he's a coverted RB that hadn't played LB until this season. Also was essentially kicked off the team for unreleased reasons (I heard rumors it was academic cheating, but it was never substantiated).He does have talent as an undersized LB, though. He was leading the team in tackles before his suspension.

Sounds like a good guy to have around.

 

[T Bell]

Posted in draft thread:A bit curious that Cody Glenn was the first Husker taken... he's a coverted RB that hadn't played LB until this season. Also was essentially kicked off the team for unreleased reasons (I heard rumors it was academic cheating, but it was never substantiated).He does have talent as an undersized LB, though. He was leading the team in tackles before his suspension.

Sounds like a good guy to have around.

He sounds like a two-down, run stopping MLB and special teamer. We already have a couple of those on the roster. We need a OLB, especially one who can play the Sam. Am I missing something?

 

[Sebowski]

Soooo how does Jason Campbell feel about the Redskins basically spending all off-season pursuing better QB's?

I'd say he is rightfully a little pissed off. I'd also say that he is using it as motivation to prove he is a starting QB in this league. I think he still wants to perform for himself and his teammates, and even Zorn. I think they have a good relationship and that JC knows it was more Snyder and Vinny that were trying to replace him then Zorn. He knows that the only thing that matters for his career going forward is how he performs this year. No excuses. I am betting he has a very good year. I am not sure he will ever be a top FF QB, but I know he can win (and not lose) games.

 

[Sebowski]

Posted in draft thread:A bit curious that Cody Glenn was the first Husker taken... he's a coverted RB that hadn't played LB until this season. Also was essentially kicked off the team for unreleased reasons (I heard rumors it was academic cheating, but it was never substantiated).He does have talent as an undersized LB, though. He was leading the team in tackles before his suspension.

Sounds like a good guy to have around.

He sounds like a two-down, run stopping MLB and special teamer. We already have a couple of those on the roster. We need a OLB, especially one who can play the Sam. Am I missing something?

I am guessing that they feel we need some special team "starters" right now. Better than drafting two FBs back-to-back like Gibbs did a few years ago.

 

[T Bell]

Soooo how does Jason Campbell feel about the Redskins basically spending all off-season pursuing better QB's?

I'd say he is rightfully a little pissed off. I'd also say that he is using it as motivation to prove he is a starting QB in this league. I think he still wants to perform for himself and his teammates, and even Zorn. I think they have a good relationship and that JC knows it was more Snyder and Vinny that were trying to replace him then Zorn. He knows that the only thing that matters for his career going forward is how he performs this year. No excuses. I am betting he has a very good year. I am not sure he will ever be a top FF QB, but I know he can win (and not lose) games.

This is about right. I also think that his willingness to resign with the team is not as reduced as some might think given his personality. I think he'd find it to be vindication enough to succeed and have the team want to resign him, believe it or not. He may well refuse to negotiate an extension during the season though, in favor of waiting until he's a UFA after 2009.

 

[T Bell]

WTF is with our drafting? Is our strategy "Orakpo, and #### it, anything else is gravy!"? I can't believe I'm not seeing a move for one of the OL prospects, and yes I recognize that this wasn't necessarily a great OL draft after the four OT's, but still. I repeat, WTF?

 

[Marvelous]

Kevin Barnes, CB Maryland

Effing dumb.

Maybe they are looking for a replacement for Leigh Torrance.

 

[Marvelous]

This looks like a poor pick, that fails both under the need and BPA metrics. WTF?

It falls under "I guess Tryon will be a bust".Next year we may have an "I guess Barnes will be a bust" pick.

It's always nice to learn that you can replace the UDFA (Leigh Torrence) who ably filled your special teams and nickel/dime CB role and who you stupidly cut last year for the low, low, bargain basement price of a 3rd rounder (who you could likely have drafted a round or two later). It restores my faith in this team. If they didn't like the OL's or the LB's on the board here, then they should have traded down. As we're seeing, there are plenty of teams that are willing to move up to nab guys. This was really stupid.

T Bell beat me to it.

 

[Marvelous]

Pick traded to Vikings

anyone know what we got for the pick?

Dropped back to 158 and recouped the 7th rounder we gave the Vikes for Erasmus James.

So the Redskins now have two 7th rounders to address the OL.

 

[crnerblitz]

Robert Henson LB, TCU. V.C. must feel that they are good at OL.

 

[T Bell]

Robert Henson Lb TCU. We must be good at OL

Maybe he'll be a good SLB. Maybe. Or maybe the Henson family will treat Redskins Park to a lot of free Muppets shows. Maybe.

 

[Marvelous]

Plain and simple, that's the brutal truth about Colt.

Since this was posted before the big Friday radio interview, what's your take on Zorn's comments on Brennan?Zorn was gushing over Brennan. And Zorn hasn't been one to shy away from criticism or from showing his pessimism, and he's always come across as giving his honest opinions. I was just curious as to why you think there is such a discrepancy in the outlooks.

I heard part of Friday's show. Vinny was talking about how they make selections and talked about Brennan. Vinny said they had a number of qbs rated nearly even and they asked Zorn which QB he would prefer to develop. Zorn picked Brennan.Vinny also said that he felt they should select a qb every year. I thought it was probably a due to a poor view on Brennan.

 

[T Bell]

Plain and simple, that's the brutal truth about Colt.

Since this was posted before the big Friday radio interview, what's your take on Zorn's comments on Brennan?Zorn was gushing over Brennan. And Zorn hasn't been one to shy away from criticism or from showing his pessimism, and he's always come across as giving his honest opinions. I was just curious as to why you think there is such a discrepancy in the outlooks.

I heard part of Friday's show. Vinny was talking about how they make selections and talked about Brennan. Vinny said they had a number of qbs rated nearly even and they asked Zorn which QB he would prefer to develop. Zorn picked Brennan.Vinny also said that he felt they should select a qb every year. I thought it was probably a due to a poor view on Brennan.

That need not be true. I'm fine with Brennan being picked last year. He's a development project, and I don't mind taking on QB development projects. Under the best of circumstances Brennan would get a couple of years on the bench and then compete for a starting role around the time that our patience would run out with Campbell (if Campbell ends up being a failure). The people declaring Brennan as the next star are the ones who need their heads checked as nobody could possibly declare that as of last year or even now.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Soooo how does Jason Campbell feel about the Redskins basically spending all off-season pursuing better QB's?

I know New Englanders aren't known for their smarts, but I imagine that you would have more luck getting Jason Cambell to answer that question if it was posted at a website he is likely to frequent instead of trolling the Redskins thread at FBG. Stay Classy New England.

Was asking a legitimate question - I'll try again after your afternoon nap.

 

[crnerblitz]

Plain and simple, that's the brutal truth about Colt.

Since this was posted before the big Friday radio interview, what's your take on Zorn's comments on Brennan?Zorn was gushing over Brennan. And Zorn hasn't been one to shy away from criticism or from showing his pessimism, and he's always come across as giving his honest opinions. I was just curious as to why you think there is such a discrepancy in the outlooks.

I heard part of Friday's show. Vinny was talking about how they make selections and talked about Brennan. Vinny said they had a number of qbs rated nearly even and they asked Zorn which QB he would prefer to develop. Zorn picked Brennan.Vinny also said that he felt they should select a qb every year. I thought it was probably a due to a poor view on Brennan.

That need not be true. I'm fine with Brennan being picked last year. He's a development project, and I don't mind taking on QB development projects. Under the best of circumstances Brennan would get a couple of years on the bench and then compete for a starting role around the time that our patience would run out with Campbell (if Campbell ends up being a failure). The people declaring Brennan as the next star are the ones who need their heads checked as nobody could possibly declare that as of last year or even now.

I have to agree with that position. I have a small man crush on Colt. I have him rostered in two dynasty leagues but that being said I expect nothing, nada, zip and pip from him for 2009. He is a lottery ticket that I can only dream of cashing in sometime around 2010-2011. People who expect anything more just dont understand all that Colt has to overcome to be the starter.

 

[southeastjerome]

Posted in draft thread:A bit curious that Cody Glenn was the first Husker taken... he's a coverted RB that hadn't played LB until this season. Also was essentially kicked off the team for unreleased reasons (I heard rumors it was academic cheating, but it was never substantiated).He does have talent as an undersized LB, though. He was leading the team in tackles before his suspension.

Sounds like a good guy to have around.

He sounds like a two-down, run stopping MLB and special teamer. We already have a couple of those on the roster. We need a OLB, especially one who can play the Sam. Am I missing something?

No, I was kidding. I was referring to the fact that he was kicked off of the team. I don't know anything about the guy.

 

[crnerblitz]

Soooo how does Jason Campbell feel about the Redskins basically spending all off-season pursuing better QB's?

I know New Englanders aren't known for their smarts, but I imagine that you would have more luck getting Jason Cambell to answer that question if it was posted at a website he is likely to frequent instead of trolling the Redskins thread at FBG. Stay Classy New England.

Was asking a legitimate question - I'll try again after your afternoon nap.

I had my afternoon nap, thanks, I feel much better. I don't have a clue how Jason Campbell feels about His name being linked to trade talks this off-season. I also have zero information or even insight into His personality profile so I am reticent to guess what His attitude currently is. Reticent I say. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than me might be able to help you.

Your reputation, as known to me is the type of person whom trolls and often goes on fishing expeditions. Because of this I find that there is a high probability that your not sincere in your question. Furthermore, because you have said and I quote “Joe Gibbs has no class.” I can only surmise that you must be bearing some kind of hateful grudge.

The Patriots had one heck of a draft weekend. They loaded up in the second round cleaned up after and leveraged themselves for the 2010 draft. Very well done by the Pats F.O.

Thank you. Come again.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Soooo how does Jason Campbell feel about the Redskins basically spending all off-season pursuing better QB's?

I know New Englanders aren't known for their smarts, but I imagine that you would have more luck getting Jason Cambell to answer that question if it was posted at a website he is likely to frequent instead of trolling the Redskins thread at FBG. Stay Classy New England.

Was asking a legitimate question - I'll try again after your afternoon nap.

I had my afternoon nap, thanks, I feel much better. I don't have a clue how Jason Campbell feels about His name being linked to trade talks this off-season. I also have zero information or even insight into His personality profile so I am reticent to guess what His attitude currently is. Reticent I say. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than me might be able to help you.

Thanks for your input.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Your reputation, as known to me is the type of person whom trolls and often goes on fishing expeditions. Because of this I find that there is a high probability that your not sincere in your question. Furthermore, because you have said and I quote “Joe Gibbs has no class.” I can only surmise that you must be bearing some kind of hateful grudge.

Yeah, big hateful grudge - I have no idea who you are but apparently you have my posting history available for immediate recall. I don't know in what context I called Gibbs classless, but I'll trust your notebook on me as it seems to be quite extensive. Good to have fans.

 

[T Bell]

Your reputation, as known to me is the type of person whom trolls and often goes on fishing expeditions. Because of this I find that there is a high probability that your not sincere in your question. Furthermore, because you have said and I quote “Joe Gibbs has no class.” I can only surmise that you must be bearing some kind of hateful grudge.

Yeah, big hateful grudge - I have no idea who you are but apparently you have my posting history available for immediate recall. I don't know in what context I called Gibbs classless, but I'll trust your notebook on me as it seems to be quite extensive. Good to have fans.

There were a couple of non-cranky responses to your question, including one by me. For the sake of avoiding thread clutter, you might focus your attention on those.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Your reputation, as known to me is the type of person whom trolls and often goes on fishing expeditions. Because of this I find that there is a high probability that your not sincere in your question. Furthermore, because you have said and I quote “Joe Gibbs has no class.” I can only surmise that you must be bearing some kind of hateful grudge.

Yeah, big hateful grudge - I have no idea who you are but apparently you have my posting history available for immediate recall. I don't know in what context I called Gibbs classless, but I'll trust your notebook on me as it seems to be quite extensive. Good to have fans.

There were a couple of non-cranky responses to your question, including one by me. For the sake of avoiding thread clutter, you might focus your attention on those.

Yes, I'm glad not all WAS fans are so defensive.I just find it interesting as a very mini-Jay Cutler situation - it's obvious to Campbell that he's not wanted there, I believe he's in the last year of his contract...it's going to be pretty awkward now in pressers when the inevitable "Jason's our guy" answers get rolled out. If he had as much clout as Cutler, or at least was as big a baby as him, I'd be worried about him causing waves.

 

[T Bell]

Your reputation, as known to me is the type of person whom trolls and often goes on fishing expeditions. Because of this I find that there is a high probability that your not sincere in your question. Furthermore, because you have said and I quote “Joe Gibbs has no class.” I can only surmise that you must be bearing some kind of hateful grudge.

Yeah, big hateful grudge - I have no idea who you are but apparently you have my posting history available for immediate recall. I don't know in what context I called Gibbs classless, but I'll trust your notebook on me as it seems to be quite extensive. Good to have fans.

There were a couple of non-cranky responses to your question, including one by me. For the sake of avoiding thread clutter, you might focus your attention on those.

Yes, I'm glad not all WAS fans are so defensive.I just find it interesting as a very mini-Jay Cutler situation - it's obvious to Campbell that he's not wanted there, I believe he's in the last year of his contract...it's going to be pretty awkward now in pressers when the inevitable "Jason's our guy" answers get rolled out. If he had as much clout as Cutler, or at least was as big a baby as him, I'd be worried about him causing waves.

He's a different personality. He's serious and determined, and a lot less of a prima donna than Cutler. Some folks fault him for that, but if you believe that being classy costs you nothing then you can't help but root for the guy, and I suspect that he's earned some respect from his teammates because of this approach. I think he will continue to develop and this year will be the best of his career (whatever that ends up meaning), at which point both he and the team will be at a crossroads. While he's not the sort of personality to openly want to rub the team's face in his success as he signs with another team and I do think that he seems to like the fans and the DC area, I don't really know what will happen from there. If he's seen as having "arrived" as a QB this year, however, a lot of pressure will be on the team to re-sign him.

 

[Sebowski]

I'm betting our last pick is this guy:

Mulitalo, Cyrus ILB 5'11" 244 Sacramento State

Seems to be one of the smallest middle linebackers left. Sounds like a redskin. Draft him.

 

[Sebowski]

Just noticed Derrick Dockery's brother is out there:

Dockery, Cedric OG 6'3" 314 Texas

The only O-Lineman left in the NFL.com database with a video is C AQ Shipley. If that LB is gone we should take a flier on him.

 

[Marvelous]

Plain and simple, that's the brutal truth about Colt.

Since this was posted before the big Friday radio interview, what's your take on Zorn's comments on Brennan?Zorn was gushing over Brennan. And Zorn hasn't been one to shy away from criticism or from showing his pessimism, and he's always come across as giving his honest opinions. I was just curious as to why you think there is such a discrepancy in the outlooks.

I heard part of Friday's show. Vinny was talking about how they make selections and talked about Brennan. Vinny said they had a number of qbs rated nearly even and they asked Zorn which QB he would prefer to develop. Zorn picked Brennan.Vinny also said that he felt they should select a qb every year. I thought it was probably a due to a poor view on Brennan.

That need not be true. I'm fine with Brennan being picked last year. He's a development project, and I don't mind taking on QB development projects. Under the best of circumstances Brennan would get a couple of years on the bench and then compete for a starting role around the time that our patience would run out with Campbell (if Campbell ends up being a failure). The people declaring Brennan as the next star are the ones who need their heads checked as nobody could possibly declare that as of last year or even now.

It sounded like they were going to draft another qb again this year.

 

[Sebowski]

Changing my last picks wishlist to be these two FSU ballers:

Greg Carr WR 6'6" 216 Florida State

Antone Smith RB 5'8" 191 Florida State

 

[T Bell]

Plain and simple, that's the brutal truth about Colt.

Since this was posted before the big Friday radio interview, what's your take on Zorn's comments on Brennan?Zorn was gushing over Brennan. And Zorn hasn't been one to shy away from criticism or from showing his pessimism, and he's always come across as giving his honest opinions. I was just curious as to why you think there is such a discrepancy in the outlooks.

I heard part of Friday's show. Vinny was talking about how they make selections and talked about Brennan. Vinny said they had a number of qbs rated nearly even and they asked Zorn which QB he would prefer to develop. Zorn picked Brennan.Vinny also said that he felt they should select a qb every year. I thought it was probably a due to a poor view on Brennan.

That need not be true. I'm fine with Brennan being picked last year. He's a development project, and I don't mind taking on QB development projects. Under the best of circumstances Brennan would get a couple of years on the bench and then compete for a starting role around the time that our patience would run out with Campbell (if Campbell ends up being a failure). The people declaring Brennan as the next star are the ones who need their heads checked as nobody could possibly declare that as of last year or even now.

It sounded like they were going to draft another qb again this year.

You could be right. God knows Brennan seems to have a lot of things to work on mechanically - footwork; arm angle; drop backs from lining up under center. But there's also a practice squad and this figures to be Collins' last year regardless, so there are multiple ways to interpret this.

 

[T Bell]

Thank goodness they drafted a TE. He's sure to make the team!

 

[Yamato]

Come on Redskins. Draft OT Lydon Murtha. He might actually be something. If they draft a DB Im going to protest.

 

[fatness]

Robert Henson Lb TCU. We must be good at OL

Maybe he'll be a good SLB. Maybe. Or maybe the Henson family will treat Redskins Park to a lot of free Muppets shows. Maybe.

Muppets are great fun at sleepovers.

 

[fatness]

7 12(221) Eddie Williams FB Idaho

Great. We drafted Russ Meyer's ex-wife. Who knew she could play fullback?

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Samuels, Kelly To Miss Minicamp

Several players will not be able to take part in the Redskins' three-day minicamp that begins Friday, according to Coach Jim Zorn.

Left tackle Chris Samuels is still recovering from triceps surgery but should be ready for June organized team activities, Zorn said. Wide receiver Malcolm Kelly, recovering from another knee surgery, is able to run some but is not slated to be able to take part in football activities. Kelly should be able to take part in June OTAs, however, Zorn said. Guard Randy Thomas (neck surgery) and safety Reed Doughty (back surgery) have been cleared for work but will be limited during minicamp, Zorn said. Zorn also said that tackle Mike Williams, signed Friday, will miss minicamp as he begins trying to shed weight. Williams is at 410 pounds - at one point he reached 450, Zorn said - and the Redskins hope to have him around 370 by training camp. Williams has not played an NFL game since 2005.

Zorn said that he expects fullback Mike Sellers, who has been skipping all voluntary workouts and is seeking a new contract according to team and league sources, to be at minicamp. He said Sellers texted him recently to say he is in great shape.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

My money is on Harrell

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Wr Marko Mitchell ZERO OLINEMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EFF YOU CAMPBELL!!!!!!! EFF YOU SKINS FANS!!!!!!! We don't need no stinking OL

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

I guess the winner of the week 3 game will have the second pick overall next year!

 

[fatness]

Zorn also said that tackle Mike Williams, signed Friday, will miss minicamp as he begins trying to shed weight. Williams is at 410 pounds - at one point he reached 450,

Mike Williams

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Zorn also said that tackle Mike Williams, signed Friday, will miss minicamp as he begins trying to shed weight. Williams is at 410 pounds - at one point he reached 450,

Mike Williams

 

[fatness]

The latest brilliant plan.

Coach Jim Zorn said that the Redskins might switch Rocky McIntosh, their weakside linebacker, to the strong side to fill the vacancy caused by the release of Marcus Washington on Feb. 20.

None of the linebackers the Redskins have added in the past month: journeyman Robert Thomas and rookies Cody Glenn and Robert Henson -- have much, if any, experience on the strong side.

Well that's OK. It's not like it's a critical defensive position or anything.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Why do I continue to root for this team, I'm not even from the area!

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Posted at 6:59 PM ET, 04/26/2009

Skins Wrap Up Draft by Taking a WR

With their 243rd (compensatory) pick, the Skins chose Nevada wide receiver Marko Mitchell.

...

More on Eddie Williams, the tight end the Redskins took out of Idaho. He'd fallen off some boards as a medical risk because he tore his anterior cruciate ligament in the next-to-last game of Idaho's season and had surgery. He is seen as someone who has talent but will need some time to get healthy. Fortunately, the Skins have that luxury with Chris Cooley, Fred Davis and Todd Yoder (who's still under contract). Williams is projected as being more of a slot receiver than a blocker.

an H back playing Slot?

 

[fatness]

Well if you want to read someone putting a happy face on chaos, and describing all sorts of real or imagined potential instead of saying "we didn't get what we needed", here are Jim Zorn's comments:

One of the things that is evident for us is we have concentrated on the defensive side of the ball. Last year, our first four picks were on the offensive side of the ball. This year, our first four were on the defensive side. We had some real need and actually trying to address those needs, those kinds of things have come together for us and we've stayed true to that.

I think he is going to give us a shot to- again he is versatile. He will be able to move around. We don't know exactly where he is going to move around. We don't know exactly where he is going to end up in those three positions that we have, but he will be in the mix.

What we're going to try, we're going to try to put Rocky [McIntosh] at strong side as well. You may even see [brian] Orakpo at strong side as well, just early here so we can see whether or not he has the potential to do that. Rocky may flip over as well. It gives us some flexibility with the two guys. We have to find out what mixture and what the ingredients will come out. I'm not really sure exactly how it's going to all come out and right now we have some time to develop that

What is nice about Glenn was just the fact that he is a little bit raw. He is new to the position for this year, but he is a good athlete. I think he took the position, he played at a high level conference, he played on a tremendous team and they had enough confidence in him to start him there at that position. I think that formula just allows us to be optimistic about what his chances are. I can't tell you exactly which position he is going to be able to settle in at.

On not drafting an offensive lineman in this draft:

"Well down the way, we've had five picks. Now we tried to move in different places all throughout this draft. Very active on the phones, trying to move around so we can capture one of these guys and it either hasn't worked or when we've had that chance to pick the guy hasn't really been there. We feel really fortunate in the guys that we do have though.

"I'm not disappointed that has happened either because we are developing some offensive players. We are developing some of our linemen. We are hoping that Chad Rinehart develops into an outstanding offensive lineman. D'Anthony Batiste, we hope he can develop. We just got Mike Williams. We just got Derrick Dockery

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Next year we will need a Qb and olineman again.