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Is this considered a high pick? This means they lose their 3rd next year, right? When trading picks, you usually have to give up something a round higher the following year to get a certain pick in the current year. So, this could actually be looked at as a 4th round pick this year since they used their 3rd round pick from next year?So wait- in one calendar year we used two high draft picks on DL's?
Their is and will only ever be one Meast...but I agree great pickup. Fits perfectly into the scheme Greg is trying to run. Also I think this speaks volumes on how well Orakpo is adjusting to the SAM position.
From Schefter's twitter....
I don't know much of anything about this guy, but it makes me feel good knowing that the Pats, Eagles and Lions are teams that were after him.
I agree. Having the Pats offer a 4th makes me feel really good about this. As long as it isn't drafting WRs, the Pats know what they are doing.
"High" is in the eye of the beholder, and my eyes have typically only seen 5th rounders or later used on DL's by this team going back almost 20 years, so yeah, a third round supplemental pick though it was, it was "high" in my book. Jarmon's somewhat of a project presently. Maybe he'll contribute a little in the rotation by late in the 2009 season, but the real test will be whether he can replace Wynn and Daniels as the LDE on 1st downs with Orakpo lined up outside of him, and also perhaps whether he can move inside to DT next to Haynesworth on passing downs. I'm hopeful that he can make up for our inability to draft DE Lawrence Jackson (Seahawks) a year ago.Is this considered a high pick? This means they lose their 3rd next year, right? When trading picks, you usually have to give up something a round higher the following year to get a certain pick in the current year. So, this could actually be looked at as a 4th round pick this year since they used their 3rd round pick from next year?So wait- in one calendar year we used two high draft picks on DL's?
Cerrato said they had a 2nd round grade on him, and that's where they believed he would be drafted if he were in next year's draft, instead of the 2009 supplemental. He also went on to say that they expect him to contribute immediately on special teams, since he has good speed (4.79 in 40).So essentially, the Skins used this year's 1st rounder and next year's 3rd rounder to secure the DE's of the future, and Orakpo should at minimum have an immediate impact as a pass rusher on passing downs. The way I look at it, the Skins were able to get a 2nd round talent and have him on the team for an entire year, before having to surrender next year's 3rd round pick. This was a fantastic move, imo.In summary, I agree with TBell's assessment that a 3rd round supplemental pick is a "high pick," because in most cases the player drafted would be going at least a round higher if he were to play another year in college and enter the next draft."High" is in the eye of the beholder, and my eyes have typically only seen 5th rounders or later used on DL's by this team going back almost 20 years, so yeah, a third round supplemental pick though it was, it was "high" in my book. Jarmon's somewhat of a project presently. Maybe he'll contribute a little in the rotation by late in the 2009 season, but the real test will be whether he can replace Wynn and Daniels as the LDE on 1st downs with Orakpo lined up outside of him, and also perhaps whether he can move inside to DT next to Haynesworth on passing downs. I'm hopeful that he can make up for our inability to draft DE Lawrence Jackson (Seahawks) a year ago.Is this considered a high pick? This means they lose their 3rd next year, right? When trading picks, you usually have to give up something a round higher the following year to get a certain pick in the current year. So, this could actually be looked at as a 4th round pick this year since they used their 3rd round pick from next year?So wait- in one calendar year we used two high draft picks on DL's?
Andre Carter is a good complimentary DE, meaning that like a #2 WR he can be useful if he has a good player opposite him. By himself, however, he's not any good at making plays. There's a place for such guys on the roster, and the "problem with Carter" hasn't so much been Carter as the team's failure to get enough talent around him on the DL. That seems to finally be changing.
not sure what "recruits" you're talking about - are these potential free agents? hadn't heard anything about this. Hope they're taking Pete Kendall to Morton's.dgreen, perhaps you'd be more comfortable listening to Larry Michael and Blogger Matt Terl? I just watched the last 10 mins of Redskin Nation on Comcast
and those two would never question the FO.
We love to rag on the Front Office, but if these moves work out, the Front Office will be looking good. Adding Dockery and Williams to the OL and Haynesworth, Orakpo, and Jarmon to the DL can potentially strengthen two very big weaknesses of the team.Of course, things always look the best in the off season.I don't hear much from my friends and acquaintances involved with the 'skins Organization these days - they're far too busy with preparations for Training Camp, etc., but one of them was given Mike Williams as his pet project to get his weight down and into playing shape - certainly looks like he's been getting the job done!I may or may not have mentioned this before, but from what I understand, one of the things Dockery was telling the 'skins Brass about Williams was that his weight gain was connected to his depression regarding his injuries and dropoff, but that he was hitting the gym as often as he was hitting the buffet, and as the Training Staff shed the pounds from him, they were pretty impressed with the muscle mass hiding underneath all the fat, and they've always been optimistic about his technique, so who knows...it would be SUCH a bonus (and a relief) if we come out of Training Camp with a reasonable amount of depth on both Lines...it would be almost as if we had a real football Program in place!Imagine that...
If Williams ends up legitimately (because he earns it, not due to injury) starting for us for an extended period of time, his signing will be an absolute coup and he's the frontrunner for comeback player of the year. I'm still of the mindset that, while it's a nice story and I'm happy for the guy, I'll believe that when I see it. We're still way ahead if he is "only" quality depth for us. Meanwhile that defensive front has me excited long term for the first time in a long, long time.We love to rag on the Front Office, but if these moves work out, the Front Office will be looking good. Adding Dockery and Williams to the OL and Haynesworth, Orakpo, and Jarmon to the DL can potentially strengthen two very big weaknesses of the team.Of course, things always look the best in the off season.I don't hear much from my friends and acquaintances involved with the 'skins Organization these days - they're far too busy with preparations for Training Camp, etc., but one of them was given Mike Williams as his pet project to get his weight down and into playing shape - certainly looks like he's been getting the job done!I may or may not have mentioned this before, but from what I understand, one of the things Dockery was telling the 'skins Brass about Williams was that his weight gain was connected to his depression regarding his injuries and dropoff, but that he was hitting the gym as often as he was hitting the buffet, and as the Training Staff shed the pounds from him, they were pretty impressed with the muscle mass hiding underneath all the fat, and they've always been optimistic about his technique, so who knows...it would be SUCH a bonus (and a relief) if we come out of Training Camp with a reasonable amount of depth on both Lines...it would be almost as if we had a real football Program in place!Imagine that...
Ah, the OffSeason...where we always win! Sad, but true...Not only the guys you mentioned, but Rinehart, Heyer, Devin Clark and Jeremy Bridges all appear to be NFL Roster-worthy, at least...Samuels / Dockery / Rabach / Thomas / Heyer(?) + DClark, Rinehart Bridges, Williams...we've made do with a lot worse than that over the last 5 or so years. Frankly, even being able to type that many names pretty much stuns me......if what I'm hearing about Fred Davis basically being trained to be an extra OL, that makes 10.Marko Mitchell is an very intriguing prospect from this year's Draft.I think they've got 15 D-Linemen now, with the addition of Jarmon, and when I look at the list, I see 8-9 that are NFL Caliber, and I know they can't keep them all. Again, I'm stunned...Kareem Moore seems to be making himself valuable......and to top it all off, they aren't scared to put Devin Thomas on the field...finally. Wow.Quietly optimistic. Hoping 'Shh...'doesn't turn into 'Well, Shh......it', by the time the Season rolls aroundWe love to rag on the Front Office, but if these moves work out, the Front Office will be looking good. Adding Dockery and Williams to the OL and Haynesworth, Orakpo, and Jarmon to the DL can potentially strengthen two very big weaknesses of the team.Of course, things always look the best in the off season.I don't hear much from my friends and acquaintances involved with the 'skins Organization these days - they're far too busy with preparations for Training Camp, etc., but one of them was given Mike Williams as his pet project to get his weight down and into playing shape - certainly looks like he's been getting the job done!I may or may not have mentioned this before, but from what I understand, one of the things Dockery was telling the 'skins Brass about Williams was that his weight gain was connected to his depression regarding his injuries and dropoff, but that he was hitting the gym as often as he was hitting the buffet, and as the Training Staff shed the pounds from him, they were pretty impressed with the muscle mass hiding underneath all the fat, and they've always been optimistic about his technique, so who knows...it would be SUCH a bonus (and a relief) if we come out of Training Camp with a reasonable amount of depth on both Lines...it would be almost as if we had a real football Program in place!Imagine that...
So far, I give Lavar and Chad Dukes a B. The little I've listened to their show this week, they've been entertaining. I think they have potential. But, they take commercials way too often and the show ends at 6.
whoever comes on at 7pm sounds like Kermit the Frog. yo kermit: that nervous laughter after your not-funny commentary will cause me to turn the dial to NPR's Fresh Air.
Yeah, I heard a couple minutes of that the other night. I'm not a fan of one-man shows. Who wants to hear one dude talk to themselves for a couple hours, especially when his voice is annoying?And from 6-7 to they replay an hour of The Junkies? I guess I'm ok with that if it's not the hour I heard in the morning, but radio programming can be so stupid sometimes. "Hey, we have an hour to fill. Let's just replay something from 12 hours ago!"
Pretty good article on players and positions that need to produce this year.
How long until he's hated at Extremeskins?
3:30 EST
