***Official*** 2009 Washington Redskins Thread (1 Viewer)

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Dont know who this is on the Lavar show, but Brady Quinn to the Skins is a possibilty.

 

[dgreen]

Dont know who this is on the Lavar show, but Brady Quinn to the Skins is a possibilty.

I seriously doubt it, but...

The more I learn about the top of this organization, the more I think, "This is the type of stuff you expect to hear about an NFL franchise in the 1930s." You know, there's all those crazy stories you hear about old team that traded a player for a team bus or some other nonsense that seems so foreign to modern-day sports. That's the type of junk we seem to be dealing with here. I honestly would not be surprised at all if Zorn was fired in the locker room during halftime this Sunday if things aren't going well.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Dont know who this is on the Lavar show, but Brady Quinn to the Skins is a possibilty.

I seriously doubt it, but...

The more I learn about the top of this organization, the more I think, "This is the type of stuff you expect to hear about an NFL franchise in the 1930s." You know, there's all those crazy stories you hear about old team that traded a player for a team bus or some other nonsense that seems so foreign to modern-day sports. That's the type of junk we seem to be dealing with here. I honestly would not be surprised at all if Zorn was fired in the locker room during halftime this Sunday if things aren't going well.

Chris Russell, now here is my 2 cents. Maybe they have talked with Gruden, and maybe he wants Quinn as his toy?

 

[Marvelous]

and a shout-out to my new girl, Tracee Hamilton, who I just recently became aware of (no, really) and who has written a few good articles for the post, including this off-topic one, which makes me root for her to be successful even more:

Hamilton

Man, what a good article. For those who haven't read it yet, it's not about football at all. But it's a damn good article.

That is a really intesnse article written from a woman's perspective. Extremely well written. Certainly not the typical stuff you read in the Sports section.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Dont know who this is on the Lavar show, but Brady Quinn to the Skins is a possibilty.

I seriously doubt it, but...

The more I learn about the top of this organization, the more I think, "This is the type of stuff you expect to hear about an NFL franchise in the 1930s." You know, there's all those crazy stories you hear about old team that traded a player for a team bus or some other nonsense that seems so foreign to modern-day sports. That's the type of junk we seem to be dealing with here. I honestly would not be surprised at all if Zorn was fired in the locker room during halftime this Sunday if things aren't going well.

Chris Russell, now here is my 2 cents. Maybe they have talked with Gruden, and maybe he wants Quinn as his toy?

If Gruden was coming I'd much rather he brought Josh Johnson with him from Tampa.

 

[dgreen]

Dont know who this is on the Lavar show, but Brady Quinn to the Skins is a possibilty.

I seriously doubt it, but...

The more I learn about the top of this organization, the more I think, "This is the type of stuff you expect to hear about an NFL franchise in the 1930s." You know, there's all those crazy stories you hear about old team that traded a player for a team bus or some other nonsense that seems so foreign to modern-day sports. That's the type of junk we seem to be dealing with here. I honestly would not be surprised at all if Zorn was fired in the locker room during halftime this Sunday if things aren't going well.

Chris Russell, now here is my 2 cents. Maybe they have talked with Gruden, and maybe he wants Quinn as his toy?

He's usually pretty good at talking football, but I'm not sure how well-connected he is in the organization.Either way, I'm ready to believe anything. Bring it on, Danny! You can't shock me.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Dan Steinberg

Since I'm still getting e-mails about the stretch play out of the end zone that resulted in a safety, I figured it was worth providing offensive coordinator Sherman Smith's thoughts on the playcall.

In his sit-down with Comcast SprotsNet's Chick Hernandez, Smith said that with Mike Sellers, Chris Cooley, Mike Williams and Stephon Heyer all in one-on-one situations on the right side of the line, the team was in fine shape, matchup-wise.

"We felt that we had what we wanted," he said. "The blocking wasn't uneven. It was, 'Hey, their guy on our guy.' So when you can get one-on-one blocking, you should be able to run inside or outside. That's what you should be able to do. And that's what we had, one-on-one blocking, and we got defeated at the point of attack.

The story of the Redskins 2009 season: "Defeated at the Point of Attack".

Exactly. This isn't something new. It's not like they've had great success with it. There is absolutely no reason to take that chance from your own endzone.And at the coaching staff feeling confident with Sellers, Cooley, Williams, and Heyer. Hmm, let's see. Sellers' failures are being highlighted more and more each week. Cooley has never been a stellar run blocker. Williams was seeing his first regular season action in 4 years and was at a different position. And, well, Heyer is Heyer. No reason to have enough confidence in him when you're backed up in your own end.

How many of those four won their one-on-one matchup? Zero?

I have no experience coaching or playing organized football, so take this for what it's worth, but in rewatching that play (it's on NFL.com) it looks like Heyer is only one that really lost his matchup. And he lost it huge. Peppers just totally blows him back over the goal line. Williams and Cooley held their blocks long enough that Portis could have gotten out of the endzone with Sellers still looking for someone to hit at the second level, if Heyer hadn't been pushed right back in to Portis.

 

[dgreen]

and a shout-out to my new girl, Tracee Hamilton, who I just recently became aware of (no, really) and who has written a few good articles for the post, including this off-topic one, which makes me root for her to be successful even more:

Hamilton

Man, what a good article. For those who haven't read it yet, it's not about football at all. But it's a damn good article.

That is a really intesnse article written from a woman's perspective. Extremely well written. Certainly not the typical stuff you read in the Sports section.

This is how I progressed through the article:1. Yeah, don't worry, honey. You're no Erin Andrews and shouldn't have to worry about it.

2. Oh, hey, she admitted she's ugly. Where's this article going?

3. Well, don't I feel like an ### now.

 

[dgreen]

Dan Steinberg

Since I'm still getting e-mails about the stretch play out of the end zone that resulted in a safety, I figured it was worth providing offensive coordinator Sherman Smith's thoughts on the playcall.

In his sit-down with Comcast SprotsNet's Chick Hernandez, Smith said that with Mike Sellers, Chris Cooley, Mike Williams and Stephon Heyer all in one-on-one situations on the right side of the line, the team was in fine shape, matchup-wise.

"We felt that we had what we wanted," he said. "The blocking wasn't uneven. It was, 'Hey, their guy on our guy.' So when you can get one-on-one blocking, you should be able to run inside or outside. That's what you should be able to do. And that's what we had, one-on-one blocking, and we got defeated at the point of attack.

The story of the Redskins 2009 season: "Defeated at the Point of Attack".

Exactly. This isn't something new. It's not like they've had great success with it. There is absolutely no reason to take that chance from your own endzone.And at the coaching staff feeling confident with Sellers, Cooley, Williams, and Heyer. Hmm, let's see. Sellers' failures are being highlighted more and more each week. Cooley has never been a stellar run blocker. Williams was seeing his first regular season action in 4 years and was at a different position. And, well, Heyer is Heyer. No reason to have enough confidence in him when you're backed up in your own end.

How many of those four won their one-on-one matchup? Zero?

I have no experience coaching or playing organized football, so take this for what it's worth, but in rewatching that play (it's on NFL.com) it looks like Heyer is only one that really lost his matchup. And he lost it huge. Peppers just totally blows him back over the goal line. Williams and Cooley held their blocks long enough that Portis could have gotten out of the endzone with Sellers still looking for someone to hit at the second level, if Heyer hadn't been pushed right back in to Portis.

Possibly. I guess it's safe to say Sellers didn't lose a one-on-one matchup if he didn't matchup with anyone. I'm willing to bet that at least one of their blockers loses a one-on-one matchup on most plays. IMO, it makes that play call too big of a risk at that spot of the field.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Anyone else getting the "Due to visiting team returns, a limited number of tickets, including Lower Level, are available" e-mails? I think I've already received one for each home game. I'm betting I'll see 5 more.

So much for having been the hottest ticket in town.

 

[fatness]

Can Jason Taylor play O-line? We could get him for a second rounder.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Can Jason Taylor play O-line? We could get him for a second rounder.

Maybe we can get Primetime to comeback for a year

 

[fatness]

Anyone else getting the "Due to visiting team returns, a limited number of tickets, including Lower Level, are available" e-mails? I think I've already received one for each home game. I'm betting I'll see 5 more.So much for having been the hottest ticket in town.

Czaban has predicted that things like that would start happening --- people turning their tickets in. His idea is that when the Redskins finally begin selling single tickets, to anyone, that fan goodwill will officially be exhausted with Snyder and his wrecking of the team. It's getting closer.

 

[fatness]

Rinehart is officially a flop.

Officially.

He's not even good enough to fill in for an injured starter on the league's worst O-line.

Third-year guard-center Will Montgomery will start at right guard for the Washington Redskins against the Kansas City Chiefs on Sunday, beating out second-year lineman Chad Rinehart, Coach Jim Zorn announced Wednesday.

Rinehart, a third-round draft pick out of Northern Iowa in 2008, initially beat out Montgomery for the starting job when starter Randy Thomas went down in Washington's win over St. Louis on Sept. 20.

"Right now, Will Montgomery is going to be our right guard," Zorn said. "Partly Chad Rinehart's shoulder is still hurting him and he mentioned to [offensive line coach Joe Bugel] today it's still sore, so we have to have somebody that can practice what we're doing so [Montgomery's] going to go."

Rinehart was replaced in the lineup last week by career offensive tackle Mike Williams, but with starting left tackle Chris Samuels going down with an injury Williams will move out to right tackle while Stephon Heyer switches to the left side to fill-in for Samuels.

 

[dgreen]

Anyone else getting the "Due to visiting team returns, a limited number of tickets, including Lower Level, are available" e-mails? I think I've already received one for each home game. I'm betting I'll see 5 more.So much for having been the hottest ticket in town.

Czaban has predicted that things like that would start happening --- people turning their tickets in. His idea is that when the Redskins finally begin selling single tickets, to anyone, that fan goodwill will officially be exhausted with Snyder and his wrecking of the team. It's getting closer.

They've been doing this for years. This is nothing new.Sidewinder16, are you on the wait list? How did they get your email?

 

[fatness]

Redskins' Outlook Bleak When Sonny Starts Raining Shots

Asked about the team's hiring last week of former NFL offensive coordinator Sherman Lewis to provide Coach Jim Zorn an "extra set of eyes," Jurgensen said, "If I was Zorn, I'd quit."

He also said if the Redskins had started backup quarterback Todd Collins this season instead of Jason Campbell, they would be 4-0 and indicated he would have benched Campbell at halftime of the Tampa Bay game in favor of Collins. There's a decent chance the straight-shooting Jurgensen told Zorn the same thing, just as he did when he told Zorn he would have ignored the halfback option call Zorn sent in during the game against the St. Louis Rams earlier in the season.

 

[fatness]

Working conditions for WJFK-FM Redskins reporter Chris Russell have improved dramatically since the new all-sports station went on the air in July. For most of the first week he covered training camp, Russell was not allowed to file live telephone reports into the station from Redskins Park. Instead, he had to leave practice, get in his car and drive off the property to call in.

That situation changed within a week, and Russell is now permitted to feed his live stories to the station from the team's Ashburn facility. But he's also the only on-air WJFK representative credentialed to be on the premises, with only one credential allotted to the station at FedEx Field on game day.

The credential restriction on WJFK means that talk show host and former Washington linebacker Lavar Arrington apparently is not welcome at Redskins Park or in the FedEx Field press box on game days, nor are any other show hosts.

Leonard Shapiro

 

[fatness]

Thom Lovero thinks Collins should start. To be fair, he thinks Cerrato should go, Snyder should butt out of personnel decisions, and isn't saying Zorn is great. But he's saying none of those 3 look like they're about to be removed, so something else has to be tried. Not sure I agree with him, but it's an interesting article.

Why not make other changes as well? Why is preseason sensation Marko Mitchell not getting a sniff of playing time? Is it really because Malcolm Kelly and Devin Thomas are so much better? Or is it because Kelly and Thomas need to play to salvage Cerrato's Great Draft Debacle of 2008?

You better believe political considerations in part determine who gets playing time on dysfunctional teams, decisions based on who has the most to lose for bad personnel moves.

Look at what happened with the Cowboys on Sunday. Miles Austin caught 10 passes for 250 yards. Do you think he even would have played if not for the injury to high-priced flop Roy Williams, who was acquired from the Lions for first-, third- and sixth-round picks and given a five-year, $45 million contract?

Link

 

[fatness]

A really brutal look at the Offensive Line written by Ryan O'Halloran. I'm not going to post any quotes. It's too depressing.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Anyone else getting the "Due to visiting team returns, a limited number of tickets, including Lower Level, are available" e-mails? I think I've already received one for each home game. I'm betting I'll see 5 more.So much for having been the hottest ticket in town.

Czaban has predicted that things like that would start happening --- people turning their tickets in. His idea is that when the Redskins finally begin selling single tickets, to anyone, that fan goodwill will officially be exhausted with Snyder and his wrecking of the team. It's getting closer.

They've been doing this for years. This is nothing new.Sidewinder16, are you on the wait list? How did they get your email?

Yes, I'm on the wait list. I don't recall getting these kinds of e-mails for every home game, though. But, maybe I just ignored them and forgot about them.

 

[Swing 51]

Players Ask Management To Publicly Endorse ZornRedskins Eager to Unite, Focus on the Chiefs By Rick Maese and Mike WiseWashington Post Staff WritersThursday, October 15, 2009Preparing for yet another winless opponent, Redskins players concluded practice Wednesday in a light drizzle, and the storm clouds surrounding Redskins Park showed no signs of dissipating. Inside the locker room, two prominent players on offense and a veteran defensive player said they want team management to publicly address Coach Jim Zorn's job security.If the team doesn't intend to fire Zorn, the players said, the coach should be given a public vote of confidence so that players won't have to bear the responsibility each week of responding to speculation about their embattled coach.The players, who spoke on condition that their names not be used, said they had hoped management would soon release a statement endorsing Zorn to silence any doubts about his immediate future to eliminate what they said has become a daily distraction."I wish someone upstairs would just say he's going to be our coach for the season," said one of the players. "That way, we don't have to answer any more questions about it and everybody knows we're in this boat together."A team official said the Redskins would not comment on Zorn's status Wednesday. Vinny Cerrato, the Redskins' executive vice president of football operations, was given the opportunity last week on a conference call with reporters to offer such an endorsement and chose not to.Two of the players added that any statement short of a vote of confidence -- including not commenting -- leads to organizational divide at a time everyone associated with the Redskins needs to unite in order to turn the season around.

 

[NMYMND]

Sellers identifies problems

Asked what the hardest part of the season has been thus far, Sellers said: "You reporters."

When a reporter followed up by asking, "How so?", Sellers said, "Next question."

Sellers declined to answer questions following Sunday's loss at Carolina. When reporters approached him Wednesday, he said, "I'm going to tell y'all right now, don't ask me anything negative. Don't ask me anything remotely negative."

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Players Ask Management To Publicly Endorse ZornRedskins Eager to Unite, Focus on the Chiefs By Rick Maese and Mike WiseWashington Post Staff WritersThursday, October 15, 2009Preparing for yet another winless opponent, Redskins players concluded practice Wednesday in a light drizzle, and the storm clouds surrounding Redskins Park showed no signs of dissipating. Inside the locker room, two prominent players on offense and a veteran defensive player said they want team management to publicly address Coach Jim Zorn's job security.If the team doesn't intend to fire Zorn, the players said, the coach should be given a public vote of confidence so that players won't have to bear the responsibility each week of responding to speculation about their embattled coach.The players, who spoke on condition that their names not be used, said they had hoped management would soon release a statement endorsing Zorn to silence any doubts about his immediate future to eliminate what they said has become a daily distraction."I wish someone upstairs would just say he's going to be our coach for the season," said one of the players. "That way, we don't have to answer any more questions about it and everybody knows we're in this boat together."A team official said the Redskins would not comment on Zorn's status Wednesday. Vinny Cerrato, the Redskins' executive vice president of football operations, was given the opportunity last week on a conference call with reporters to offer such an endorsement and chose not to.Two of the players added that any statement short of a vote of confidence -- including not commenting -- leads to organizational divide at a time everyone associated with the Redskins needs to unite in order to turn the season around.

I'm glad that the players are making it as clear as they can where the problem lies. I've certainly got my doubts and even convictions at this point about whether Zorn is the right guy for the job, but to sabotage him even as he tries to get the job done is pathetic and the players have a right to be upset about it.

 

[dgreen]

Anyone else getting the "Due to visiting team returns, a limited number of tickets, including Lower Level, are available" e-mails? I think I've already received one for each home game. I'm betting I'll see 5 more.So much for having been the hottest ticket in town.

Czaban has predicted that things like that would start happening --- people turning their tickets in. His idea is that when the Redskins finally begin selling single tickets, to anyone, that fan goodwill will officially be exhausted with Snyder and his wrecking of the team. It's getting closer.

They've been doing this for years. This is nothing new.Sidewinder16, are you on the wait list? How did they get your email?

Yes, I'm on the wait list. I don't recall getting these kinds of e-mails for every home game, though. But, maybe I just ignored them and forgot about them.

Some games (like an 0-5 KC team) are more likely than others to have a few extra tickets. It's rare to get them for division games. I'm a season ticket holder and I got one for either STL or TB; can't remember which. But, oddly enough, I didn't get one yet for KC. Maybe they give wait list people a chance for a couple days then offer to current ticket holders if any are left over?

 

[dgreen]

A really brutal look at the Offensive Line written by Ryan O'Halloran. I'm not going to post any quotes. It's too depressing.

That's a link to a Cooley article.Here's the OL article.

 

[Hedgehog]

Team looks awful - OL looks awful - couldn't imagine benching any RB vs KC but without samuels is that the way to go here?

 

[dgreen]

Team looks awful - OL looks awful - couldn't imagine benching any RB vs KC but without samuels is that the way to go here?

Well, as long as the D holds up fairly well, I'm sure Portis will get 20+ touches. Sure, he's not going to turn those touches into huge numbers. But, with a TD, he could still put together a decent day Sunday.I could see something like 22-75-1 rushing and 2-15-0 receiving.

 

[dgreen]

Dont know who this is on the Lavar show, but Brady Quinn to the Skins is a possibilty.

From Keim:

Got an email from someone in Cleveland this morning saying that local radio stations were speculating on the Redskins being interested in Brady Quinn. But a Redskins source said there was zero chance of that happening. So that's that.

 

[DCThunder]

Dont know who this is on the Lavar show, but Brady Quinn to the Skins is a possibilty.

From Keim:

Got an email from someone in Cleveland this morning saying that local radio stations were speculating on the Redskins being interested in Brady Quinn. But a Redskins source said there was zero chance of that happening. So that's that.

Maybe they can get Quinn to return punts. Hey, it worked for JoeyT while he waited for Sonny and Billy to die and then look what happened...

 

[footballnerd]

Team looks awful - OL looks awful - couldn't imagine benching any RB vs KC but without samuels is that the way to go here?

Well, as long as the D holds up fairly well, I'm sure Portis will get 20+ touches. Sure, he's not going to turn those touches into huge numbers. But, with a TD, he could still put together a decent day Sunday.I could see something like 22-75-1 rushing and 2-15-0 receiving.

If Cooley has to block it might be more 22-50-1 and 5-35

 

[Sidewinder16]

Ugh. Horrible column by Thomas Boswell. Basically trying to make the case that things aren't as bad as all the hubbub would suggest, simply because the 'Skins aren't the worst team in the league.

Again, this is the Washington 'friggin Redskins we're talking about. An organization with a rich history of success, and a fan base loyal enough and/or knowledgeable enough to be proud of that history. Mediocre is simply unacceptable, and flirting with the dregs of the league should be unspeakable.

 

[dgreen]

Ugh. Horrible column by Thomas Boswell. Basically trying to make the case that things aren't as bad as all the hubbub would suggest, simply because the 'Skins aren't the worst team in the league.

Again, this is the Washington 'friggin Redskins we're talking about. An organization with a rich history of success, and a fan base loyal enough and/or knowledgeable enough to be proud of that history. Mediocre is simply unacceptable, and flirting with the dregs of the league should be unspeakable.

By season's end, I wouldn't doubt if a very good case could be made that they are the worst team. Their only wins are against two of the worst teams, both games played at home, and both games they were in danger of losing. The Rams, Chiefs, Bucs, and Raiders are probably at the bottom of everyone's list. They continually get blown out (except when they play Washington). But, those teams have at least lost to good teams. The Redskins have faced one good opponent. If they lose to the Chiefs, I have no problem saying the Redskins are just as bad as those teams.

 

[DCThunder]

Ugh. Horrible column by Thomas Boswell. Basically trying to make the case that things aren't as bad as all the hubbub would suggest, simply because the 'Skins aren't the worst team in the league.

Again, this is the Washington 'friggin Redskins we're talking about. An organization with a rich history of success, and a fan base loyal enough and/or knowledgeable enough to be proud of that history. Mediocre is simply unacceptable, and flirting with the dregs of the league should be unspeakable.

By season's end, I wouldn't doubt if a very good case could be made that they are the worst team. Their only wins are against two of the worst teams, both games played at home, and both games they were in danger of losing. The Rams, Chiefs, Bucs, and Raiders are probably at the bottom of everyone's list. They continually get blown out (except when they play Washington). But, those teams have at least lost to good teams. The Redskins have faced one good opponent. If they lose to the Chiefs, I have no problem saying the Redskins are just as bad as those teams.

I believe the Redskins are favored this week. I'll wager that it is the LAST time they are favored for the rest of the season. They play the Raiders in Oakland, right, so it could be a pick 'em at best that week, but otherwise, where else would they be the favorites?

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Dont know who this is on the Lavar show, but Brady Quinn to the Skins is a possibilty.

From Keim:

Got an email from someone in Cleveland this morning saying that local radio stations were speculating on the Redskins being interested in Brady Quinn. But a Redskins source said there was zero chance of that happening. So that's that.

Keim's smarter than this, right?

 

[dgreen]

Ugh. Horrible column by Thomas Boswell. Basically trying to make the case that things aren't as bad as all the hubbub would suggest, simply because the 'Skins aren't the worst team in the league.

Again, this is the Washington 'friggin Redskins we're talking about. An organization with a rich history of success, and a fan base loyal enough and/or knowledgeable enough to be proud of that history. Mediocre is simply unacceptable, and flirting with the dregs of the league should be unspeakable.

By season's end, I wouldn't doubt if a very good case could be made that they are the worst team. Their only wins are against two of the worst teams, both games played at home, and both games they were in danger of losing. The Rams, Chiefs, Bucs, and Raiders are probably at the bottom of everyone's list. They continually get blown out (except when they play Washington). But, those teams have at least lost to good teams. The Redskins have faced one good opponent. If they lose to the Chiefs, I have no problem saying the Redskins are just as bad as those teams.

I believe the Redskins are favored this week. I'll wager that it is the LAST time they are favored for the rest of the season. They play the Raiders in Oakland, right, so it could be a pick 'em at best that week, but otherwise, where else would they be the favorites?

It's -6.5, right? That's crazy.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Ugh. Horrible column by Thomas Boswell. Basically trying to make the case that things aren't as bad as all the hubbub would suggest, simply because the 'Skins aren't the worst team in the league.

Again, this is the Washington 'friggin Redskins we're talking about. An organization with a rich history of success, and a fan base loyal enough and/or knowledgeable enough to be proud of that history. Mediocre is simply unacceptable, and flirting with the dregs of the league should be unspeakable.

Boswell

 

[dgreen]

Dont know who this is on the Lavar show, but Brady Quinn to the Skins is a possibilty.

From Keim:

Got an email from someone in Cleveland this morning saying that local radio stations were speculating on the Redskins being interested in Brady Quinn. But a Redskins source said there was zero chance of that happening. So that's that.

Keim's smarter than this, right?

Depends on who his source is and how often he gets good info from them.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Dont know who this is on the Lavar show, but Brady Quinn to the Skins is a possibilty.

From Keim:

Got an email from someone in Cleveland this morning saying that local radio stations were speculating on the Redskins being interested in Brady Quinn. But a Redskins source said there was zero chance of that happening. So that's that.

Keim's smarter than this, right?

Depends on who his source is and how often he gets good info from them.

Well if he's not getting the info from the proper fork in Snyderrato's tongue, then I reassert my

 

[dgreen]

From Keim:

Got an email from someone in Cleveland this morning saying that local radio stations were speculating on the Redskins being interested in Brady Quinn. But a Redskins source said there was zero chance of that happening. So that's that.

Keim's smarter than this, right?

Depends on who his source is and how often he gets good info from them.

Well if he's not getting the info from the proper fork in Snyderrato's tongue, then I reassert my

True enough. He's certainly an Xs and Os guy, but he may not be a "sources" guy. Not sure I've seen him refer to a source very often.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Reid expects Samuels to be out the rest of the year, and to possibly retire.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsi...ashbu.html#more

So now that we have to use the entire draft on the OL ... do we have to bring back Campbell next year? Are there free agent options? Do we roll the dice on Colt since we'll suck in 2010 regardless?

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

Reid expects Samuels to be out the rest of the year, and to possibly retire.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsi...ashbu.html#more

So now that we have to use the entire draft on the OL ... do we have to bring back Campbell next year? Are there free agent options? Do we roll the dice on Colt since we'll suck in 2010 regardless?

Given the historical evidence of the last few years, I expect to see an offensive lineman drafted in the 6th or 7th round. They'll probaby also pick up an old, close to washed up vet from the Jets, and Vinnie and Danny will be pleased. The team won't quite finish with the worst record in the league, and the off-season will be filled with reports about Danny wanting to trade up to draft Sam Badford. In the end, they'll either trade all the draft picks (save the last two rounds earmarked for the offensive line) to move up a couple of spots to get Bradford, or they will stay put and draft the best Safety available (congatultions Taylor Mays or Eric Berry). Then they will trade away next year's first round pick for a high second rounder to take a WR, or perhaps a TE.

 

[fatness]

Ugh. Horrible column by Thomas Boswell. Basically trying to make the case that things aren't as bad as all the hubbub would suggest, simply because the 'Skins aren't the worst team in the league.

That is a bad article, because all he really says is "Hey, look over there! Things are even worse!"He does not mention that we have 11 games left to go this year, that we do not currently have an offensive line, that there are no outside prospects for getting an offensive line this year, and that even with an offensive line this is at best an 8-8 team with an older, oft-injured roster. This is going to be 44 painful quarters of football. There is no way to believe that the o-line injuries are at an end. Dockery and Rabach are our only NFL-caliber o-linement left and are average and below-average respectively. Our most reliable receiver (Cooley) has now become a blocker. We do not have a coach who is experienced or imaginative enough to find ways to get Cooley out in pass patterns now. We have opponents double-covering Moss and crowding the line of scrimmage. We have a front office that is not competent, and is looking for PR solutions.

Do you realize how bad this year will be? Boswell doesn't.

We've become the Raiders.

 

[fatness]

Reid expects Samuels to be out the rest of the year, and to possibly retire.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsi...ashbu.html#more

I mentioned that possibility awhile back, and I'm not surprised. Chris Samuels is an intelligent man, and he's probably both well-prepared for life after football and very cognizant of the permanent threat to his health and well-being. He's the most valuable player on the team but I hope he retires. I don't want to see him laying on turf, paralyzed.

 

[buster c]

John Runyan

Levi Jones

Both OT's are available, yet not a whisper about them even coming in for a visit.

I'm tellin' y'all, it's a sabotage

 

[TobiasFunke]

Reid expects Samuels to be out the rest of the year, and to possibly retire.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsi...ashbu.html#more

So now that we have to use the entire draft on the OL ... do we have to bring back Campbell next year? Are there free agent options? Do we roll the dice on Colt since we'll suck in 2010 regardless?

Given the historical evidence of the last few years, I expect to see an offensive lineman drafted in the 6th or 7th round. They'll probaby also pick up an old, close to washed up vet from the Jets, and Vinnie and Danny will be pleased. The team won't quite finish with the worst record in the league, and the off-season will be filled with reports about Danny wanting to trade up to draft Sam Badford. In the end, they'll either trade all the draft picks (save the last two rounds earmarked for the offensive line) to move up a couple of spots to get Bradford, or they will stay put and draft the best Safety available (congatultions Taylor Mays or Eric Berry). Then they will trade away next year's first round pick for a high second rounder to take a WR, or perhaps a TE.

Sam Bradford is part Cherokee, and seems to me like the kind of guy who might be willing to take a principled stand. Just throwing this out there, not based on anything at all, but I could definitely envision him flat-out refusing to play for the Redskins based on the team name.Back on topic- Danny and Vinny have, on occasion, shown a willingness to bend to public will if that will is strong enough, even when it comes to the OL. That's how we ended up with Samuels in the first place. I'm hopeful that the near-universal outrage about the state of the OL will have the same affect in 2009.

 

[Marvelous]

Reid expects Samuels to be out the rest of the year, and to possibly retire.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsi...ashbu.html#more

So now that we have to use the entire draft on the OL ... do we have to bring back Campbell next year? Are there free agent options? Do we roll the dice on Colt since we'll suck in 2010 regardless?

Given the historical evidence of the last few years, I expect to see an offensive lineman drafted in the 6th or 7th round. They'll probaby also pick up an old, close to washed up vet from the Jets, and Vinnie and Danny will be pleased. The team won't quite finish with the worst record in the league, and the off-season will be filled with reports about Danny wanting to trade up to draft Sam Badford. In the end, they'll either trade all the draft picks (save the last two rounds earmarked for the offensive line) to move up a couple of spots to get Bradford, or they will stay put and draft the best Safety available (congatultions Taylor Mays or Eric Berry). Then they will trade away next year's first round pick for a high second rounder to take a WR, or perhaps a TE.

Here's an optimistic post: Next year will be an uncapped year (the Redskins are banking on it). That will allow Snyder to sign any free agent that he wants regardless of price. And cutting old players will have no cap hit. Granted, the free agent pool will be much smaller due to 5th year players being restricted free agents and teams getting more franchise tags. But still, no team will be able Ior at least want to) outspend the Redskins. And the Redskins can sign a whole offensive line of mediocre and very overpaid free agents. And that will be a great improvement to what we have seen.

 

[netnalp]

Riggins flames Skins GM on youtube.

Riggo's first target: Vinny Cerrato. "Your head coach has basically been castrated by the guy you work for. ... Let's face it, your real, true passion is radio so I would say just go ahead and go radio full time. ... I mean, you're a great guy, Vin, but you're no GM."

http://backporch.fanhouse.com/2009/10/14/j...age-to-youtube/

 

[dgreen]

Through four games, here's how ProFootballFocus.com rates our OL and KC's OL. Point being, they're pretty bad too. And our DL is much better than their DL.

I'm feeling positive again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[TobiasFunke]

Through four games, here's how ProFootballFocus.com rates our OL and KC's OL. Point being, they're pretty bad too. And our DL is much better than their DL.

I'm feeling positive again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I posted this in a gambling thread in the FFA ... Vegas has us as a 6.5 point favorite, against most common sense and trending (especially given the Skins' woeful performance without Samuels in the past). I don't have access right now, but I'm guess the money line averages out around +/- 200 on the game, meaning we'd win two out of three times.When a line differs from what I would consider conventional wisdom, I ALWAYS like the line.

I fully expect a win this week. Followed by a few days of cautious optimism about a 3-3 record. Followed by a 2-8 record in our last ten.

 

[Bizkiteer]

John RunyanLevi JonesBoth OT's are available, yet not a whisper about them even coming in for a visit.I'm tellin' y'all, it's a sabotage

I found that odd too that neither guy is mentioned, if not getting both of them. Reid went on before that any player that really could play are usually signed by week 5 normally. Regardless if they can really play or not, they both have to be upgrades to Heyer and flavor of the week at the other Tackle spot.I've said this for bit now, at least JLC would have covered or questioned about these two players...Reid is too busy talking about what happened and what he thinks happened. So far, I'm not too impressed with Reid's ability to be a Redskins Insider...he's a Redskins after the fact reporter, but doesn't appear to be an "insider."