*** Official 2010 New York Giants Thread *** (1 Viewer)

[RC94]

Post thoughts and/or news on the NY Giants here. This was an up and down year with a very disappointing ending so this team has some holes and needs improvement. What free agents do you think they should go after? How about the draft? Coaching changes? Any other thoughts as well...

I will try to keep track of the major moves the team makes here:

- Giants fired defensive coordinator Bill Sheridan

- Giants hired Perry Fewell to be the new defensive coordinator

- Giants release MLB Antonio Pierce.

- Giants sign free agent Safety, Antrel Rolle to a 5 year deal for $37 million, including $15 million guaranteed.

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IMO the primary needs at this point in time (January 3, 2010) are (not in particular order):

- Offensive Tackle (mainly LT) - Beatty may be replacing McKenzie at RT, but Diehl needs to be moved back to guard so the NYG's need a LT as well. I think this is pretty pressing need. Diehl is a very good guard so finding an upgrade at LT would result in an upgrade at guard as well by moving Diehl so this is a strategically important move IMO.

- Safety - If Phillips can come back they need 1 starter-quality safety. If he can't come back they need 2 starters. Maybe the most critical need of all considering this unit may need an entirely new makeover from starters to backups.

- OLB - Boley was disappointing, but he was banged up so he will be given another chance as one starter. If Sintim can step it up he will be the strong side starter and they will only need quality depth here and not a starter. I would like to give Boley and Sintim a chance, but I would also like to get them some better competition. Not the most pressing need IMO, but a need anyway.

- MLB - Pierce is slowing down and the team needs to think about the long term replacement. Goff has potential and Blackburn is a high-effort player (although athletically limited) but I am not really thrilled with either to be long term replacements.

- DT - Robbins is going to be gone. Bernard is too most likely. Cofield is ok. Canty was like Boley - disappointing but banged up. He will be (and should be) given another chance. Alford has nice upside but he missed the year with a serious injury so who knows how he will bounce back. This team's defense goes through the D-line and they need a quality DT to help take some of the heat off of the DEs, who can do much better than they did this year.

I am not sure about free agent targets. Typically you can't find high-quality starting OTs in free agency. It's also very hard to find high-end DTs.

 

[Somebody]

Here is a thread about some potential free agents. Obviously the CBA is going to determine exactly who is restricted and who is unrestricted.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=514894

 

[DCThunder]

Might be nice if you got a QB who didn't quit on his team and suck in the big games, but gets by because of his name and the fact that David Tyree made his career catch when it counted in the Super Bowl.

 

[Yenrub]

The defense was horrible so I would imagine that Sheridan would be let go as the defensive coordinator. However there were a ton of injuries on the defensive side of the ball so I could understand if he was kept (wouldn’t be happy about it but I could understand a little)

I think safety has to be the #1 priority on the defense because there was some concern that the Phillips injury could be career threatening. I am not sure who the best free agents at that position are but they probably need to look at adding one in that area.

LB is another big need on the defense. The Giants have the 15th pick in the draft so maybe they will find a LB that can help there. I am not sure who the best LB prospects are but the kid from Florida and the underclassmen from Alabama come to mind (can’t think of their names right now)

Edit to add the names of the LB's

Brandon Spikes – Florida

Rolando McClain – Alabama

 

[simmonjm]

Post thoughts and/or news on the NY Giants here. This was an up and down year with a very disappointing ending so this team has some holes and needs improvement. What free agents do you think they should go after? How about the draft? Coaching changes? Any other thoughts as well...

IMO the primary needs at this point in time are (not in particular order):

- Offensive Tackle (mainly LT) - Beatty may be replacing McKenzie at RT, but Diehl needs to be moved back to guard so the NYG's need a LT as well. I think this is pretty pressing need. Diehl is a very good guard so finding an upgrade at LT would result in an upgrade at guard as well by moving Diehl so this is a strategically important move IMO.

- Safety - If Phillips can come back they need 1 starter-quality safety. If he can't come back they need 2 starters. Maybe the most critical need of all considering this unit may need an entirely new makeover from starters to backups.

- OLB - Boley was disappointing, but he was banged up so he will be given another chance as one starter. If Sintim can step it up he will be the strong side starter and they will only need quality depth here and not a starter. I would like to give Boley and Sintim a chance, but I would also like to get them some better competition. Not the most pressing need IMO, but a need anyway.

- MLB - Pierce is slowing down and the team needs to think about the long term replacement. Goff has potential and Blackburn is a high-effort player (although athletically limited) but I am not really thrilled with either to be long term replacements.

- DT - Robbins is going to be gone. Bernard is too most likely. Cofield is ok. Canty was like Boley - disappointing but banged up. He will be (and should be) given another chance. Alford has nice upside but he missed the year with a serious injury so who knows how he will bounce back. This team's defense goes through the D-line and they need a quality DT to help take some of the heat off of the DEs, who can do much better than they did this year.

I am not sure about free agent targets. Typically you can't find high-quality starting OTs in free agency. It's also very hard to find high-end DTs.

The Giants have by FAR the worst group of LB'ers. You are lying to yourself if you think they can maintain status quo and succeed as a defense with that current group of LBers. Watching the Minnesota and Carolina game it was painfully evident that the LB'ers could not even stop a simple playaction TE rollout. In most cases this play gets 3-5 yards against the Giants it was averaging 10+ yards because of the poor recognition and reaction of LB'ers.

 

[Avery]

Might be nice if you got a QB who didn't quit on his team and suck in the big games, but gets by because of his name and the fact that David Tyree made his career catch when it counted in the Super Bowl.

You sir, are an idiot.

 

[Avery]

Statement from Mara is pretty direct and saying big changes need to be made when you are blown out multiple times.

Don't have time to link right now and not "officially official", but I'm hearing that Sheridan is already gone.

 

[Big Blue Wrecking Crew]

Might be nice if you got a QB who didn't quit on his team and suck in the big games, but gets by because of his name and the fact that David Tyree made his career catch when it counted in the Super Bowl.

You sir, are an idiot.

though, if you were stuck watching/rooting for his team, you can understand being a bit slow on the uptake...Need a little distance from this season's debacle before weighing in.

 

[DCThunder]

Might be nice if you got a QB who didn't quit on his team and suck in the big games, but gets by because of his name and the fact that David Tyree made his career catch when it counted in the Super Bowl.

You sir, are an idiot.

So two weeks ago, after the Giants blew out the Redskins, they had a chance to go to the playoffs by winning some important games, including the game that closed out the Giants run at the Meadowlands with all the greats from the Parcells era on hand. What were the scores of those games? How many TDs did Ole Eli throw in those two important games? And who's sitting home, watching the playoffs on TV?Many knowledgeable football people who live west of the Hudson River have a much better take on Eli Manning's career than you seem to, but that's just this idiot's opinion....

 

[Yankee23Fan]

I still have a huge amount of love for Reese and Coughlin after the Super Bowl win so this year is not that big of a dissappointment for me as it could be. Still, someone needs to pay for thr quit that happened because the last game was a disgrace, as was the game before.

Hearing Sheridan may be gone and while the injuries didn't help him he clearly couldn't scheme anything that worked anyway. He is no loss there and hopefully they can find an agressive coordinator to build on what Spagnuolo was able to do with the talent on the D-line.

QB is ok. RB is intereesting. I'm still a huge Jacobs fan and I'm hoping this year was the exception for him and not the rule. Him and Bradshaw make a good tandem to me. WR looks to be very possibly the strength of this team. I love Nix and think he can be a stud for years. Manninghom should be solid with another year under his belt and Steve Smith seems to ahve worked himself into that Toomer - always safe to throw to - role which Eli needs. Don't know if they need any major work there.

O-line - it appears that the glory days of this line are now fading. A new T seems to be in order as they begin to remake that line.

D-line on the outside is fine - Osi needs to man up and play better next year. At DT I wouldn't be surprised if they made some changes there but hopefully whatever they do works with the DE's and the new LB's, because.....

LB - they need a whole new LB core. Across the board. I haven't checked to see who the top FA will be or the draft possibilities, but they need at least 2 fresh players there.

Secondary - If Philips can come back healthy and ready to go they basically need just one more player there to be good.

To me the main priority needs to be LB and making sure whatever O-line starts the season is solid.

 

[Yenrub]

Might be nice if you got a QB who didn't quit on his team and suck in the big games, but gets by because of his name and the fact that David Tyree made his career catch when it counted in the Super Bowl.

You sir, are an idiot.

So two weeks ago, after the Giants blew out the Redskins, they had a chance to go to the playoffs by winning some important games, including the game that closed out the Giants run at the Meadowlands with all the greats from the Parcells era on hand. What were the scores of those games? How many TDs did Ole Eli throw in those two important games? And who's sitting home, watching the playoffs on TV?Many knowledgeable football people who live west of the Hudson River have a much better take on Eli Manning's career than you seem to, but that's just this idiot's opinion....

So after those last two games the thing that stands out to you is Eli’s play? Really?The defense gave up over 400 yards (damn near 500 total yards to the Vikings and 247 on the ground to Carolina) and over 40 points in both games and you question Eli?I don’t think Eli is great, he is good but he doesn’t play defense.

 

[Avery]

Might be nice if you got a QB who didn't quit on his team and suck in the big games, but gets by because of his name and the fact that David Tyree made his career catch when it counted in the Super Bowl.

You sir, are an idiot.

So two weeks ago, after the Giants blew out the Redskins, they had a chance to go to the playoffs by winning some important games, including the game that closed out the Giants run at the Meadowlands with all the greats from the Parcells era on hand. What were the scores of those games? How many TDs did Ole Eli throw in those two important games? And who's sitting home, watching the playoffs on TV?Many knowledgeable football people who live west of the Hudson River have a much better take on Eli Manning's career than you seem to, but that's just this idiot's opinion....

Look. If you want to have an intelligent conversation on the merits of Eli Manning that's fine, but when you post extremely ridiculous over the top #### like he quits on his team and suck in big games in a thread about the New York Giants off-season I'm assuming you're just an internet tough guy looking to insite an angry response and not really looking to have a conversation so #### off, stop trolling, and go have fun in the Redskins off-season thread where you can revel in once again dominating the off-season yet your team still will come up short when the games are played.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

I just saw the FA LB's:

Elvis Dumervil

Kirk Morrison

Shawne Merriman

I'll take all 3. Merriman would be funny after the draft trade for Eli.

 

[DCThunder]

Might be nice if you got a QB who didn't quit on his team and suck in the big games, but gets by because of his name and the fact that David Tyree made his career catch when it counted in the Super Bowl.

You sir, are an idiot.

So two weeks ago, after the Giants blew out the Redskins, they had a chance to go to the playoffs by winning some important games, including the game that closed out the Giants run at the Meadowlands with all the greats from the Parcells era on hand. What were the scores of those games? How many TDs did Ole Eli throw in those two important games? And who's sitting home, watching the playoffs on TV?Many knowledgeable football people who live west of the Hudson River have a much better take on Eli Manning's career than you seem to, but that's just this idiot's opinion....

Look. If you want to have an intelligent conversation on the merits of Eli Manning that's fine, but when you post extremely ridiculous over the top #### like he quits on his team and suck in big games in a thread about the New York Giants off-season I'm assuming you're just an internet tough guy looking to insite an angry response and not really looking to have a conversation so #### off, stop trolling, and go have fun in the Redskins off-season thread where you can revel in once again dominating the off-season yet your team still will come up short when the games are played.

Ooooooooooooooo. Good ones. You put me in MY place, that's for sure....

 

[Avery]

I just saw the FA LB's:Elvis DumervilKirk MorrisonShawne MerrimanI'll take all 3. Merriman would be funny after the draft trade for Eli.

Doesn't it depend on what happens with the CBA if these players are RFAs or UFAs?

 

[Joe Bryant]

Might be nice if you got a QB who didn't quit on his team and suck in the big games, but gets by because of his name and the fact that David Tyree made his career catch when it counted in the Super Bowl.

You sir, are an idiot.

If you come back after your time off, be WAY cooler to each other if you want to keep posting here. TIA.J

 

[Yankee23Fan]

I just saw the FA LB's:Elvis DumervilKirk MorrisonShawne MerrimanI'll take all 3. Merriman would be funny after the draft trade for Eli.

Doesn't it depend on what happens with the CBA if these players are RFAs or UFAs?

Probably, but I was just window shopping........

 

[RC94]

Post thoughts and/or news on the NY Giants here. This was an up and down year with a very disappointing ending so this team has some holes and needs improvement. What free agents do you think they should go after? How about the draft? Coaching changes? Any other thoughts as well...

IMO the primary needs at this point in time are (not in particular order):

- Offensive Tackle (mainly LT) - Beatty may be replacing McKenzie at RT, but Diehl needs to be moved back to guard so the NYG's need a LT as well. I think this is pretty pressing need. Diehl is a very good guard so finding an upgrade at LT would result in an upgrade at guard as well by moving Diehl so this is a strategically important move IMO.

- Safety - If Phillips can come back they need 1 starter-quality safety. If he can't come back they need 2 starters. Maybe the most critical need of all considering this unit may need an entirely new makeover from starters to backups.

- OLB - Boley was disappointing, but he was banged up so he will be given another chance as one starter. If Sintim can step it up he will be the strong side starter and they will only need quality depth here and not a starter. I would like to give Boley and Sintim a chance, but I would also like to get them some better competition. Not the most pressing need IMO, but a need anyway.

- MLB - Pierce is slowing down and the team needs to think about the long term replacement. Goff has potential and Blackburn is a high-effort player (although athletically limited) but I am not really thrilled with either to be long term replacements.

- DT - Robbins is going to be gone. Bernard is too most likely. Cofield is ok. Canty was like Boley - disappointing but banged up. He will be (and should be) given another chance. Alford has nice upside but he missed the year with a serious injury so who knows how he will bounce back. This team's defense goes through the D-line and they need a quality DT to help take some of the heat off of the DEs, who can do much better than they did this year.

I am not sure about free agent targets. Typically you can't find high-quality starting OTs in free agency. It's also very hard to find high-end DTs.

The Giants have by FAR the worst group of LB'ers. You are lying to yourself if you think they can maintain status quo and succeed as a defense with that current group of LBers. Watching the Minnesota and Carolina game it was painfully evident that the LB'ers could not even stop a simple playaction TE rollout. In most cases this play gets 3-5 yards against the Giants it was averaging 10+ yards because of the poor recognition and reaction of LB'ers.

What is your problem? I am lying to myself? You need to learn how to read. I listed all LB positions as a need because I don't think status quo is good so where did you get that I wanted the status quo? I want improvements at both OLB positions and especially at ILB. However, the fact is that Sintim was a rookie last year and the 2nd round pick so they are going to give him another chance. He flashed a lot of potential in the preseason. Boley will also probably be given another chance, although I am not really sold on him. Given their injuries and the fact that Sintim is only potential and not realized production, they need to bring in help to at least compete with both of them. I said that too in my OP. IMO they need Safety, MLB and OT more than OLB, but this team has lots of holes so if they have guys who have potential but were slowed by injury (like with Boley and Canty), they will probably be given another chance. I don't remember Boley's contract, but Canty signed a pretty big one so it could be difficult to get rid of him or both of them.

 

[RC94]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4795970

Giants fire rookie coordinator Sheridan

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Defensive coordinator Bill Sheridan became the first victim of the New York Giants' collapse in 2009.

Coach Tom Coughlin dismissed the rookie coordinator late Monday afternoon, just hours after saying that Sheridan's future with the team was going to be evaluated in the wake of an 8-8 season that ended with losses in eight of the final 11 games.

The firing also came the same day that co-owner John Mara vowed to make changes after seeing the season end with two embarrassing losses in which the Giants were outscored 85-16.

The defense struggled this season, giving up 427 points, ranking it third from the bottom in the NFL. Only the Detroit Lions and St. Louis Rams gave up more points. Opponents scored at least 40 points in five games, the first time that has happened to the Giants since 1966.

Neither Sheridan nor Coughlin was immediately available for comment, but Sheridan said last week that he expected to return, noting he felt he did a competent job in a year where the defense was hurt by injuries to middle linebacker Antonio Pierce, safety Kenny Phillips and cornerbacks Corey Webster and Aaron Ross.

"I am disappointed in everybody, in everything," Mara said less than 24 hours after a season-ending 44-7 loss in Minnesota. "I am unhappy with everyone. It's just not acceptable to perform like that. There are 8-8 seasons and there are 8-8 seasons, but this one felt like more like 2-14 to me."

In his nearly two decades as part of the Giants hierarchy, Mara said he has never felt like this after a season, especially after the team started 5-0.

"Probably as disappointed as I have been in my life at this team, given the expectations that we had this year, given the roster that we thought we had, given the way we started out and given the embarrassment of the last two weeks."

Defensive end Justin Tuck said earlier Monday that changing coordinators would mean that the defense will have to get used to another person and possibly another system.

"Obviously, everybody is held to a higher standard, especially here," Tuck said. "We expect to be in the running for a championship every year. When that doesn't happen, you've got to look at yourself and look at the people around you. I am speaking as far as staff. You make a decision for whatever it may be, we will deal with it when the time comes."

Sheridan was elevated from linebackers coach to defensive coordinator after Steve Spagnuolo became the Rams' coach. Spagnuolo was the architect of the defense that led the Giants to victory in Super Bowl XLII over the previously unbeaten New England Patriots in February 2008

 

[Big Blue Wrecking Crew]

Looks like Fewell as DC

Not sure I like this if he wants Tampa-2 D scheme...

 

[Avery]

Looks like Fewell as DC

Not sure I like this if he wants Tampa-2 D scheme...

He runs a more aggressive version of the Tampa 2 and got quite a lot out of a very depleted Bills defense last year.He is also a very good player motivator. Something that the Giants defense needs.

I think Giant fan should be pretty damn happy with the hire.



Edit to add: Also, just because he's run the cover 2, doesn't mean that's the only thing he knows how to do. Wouldn't be surprised to see some other looks out of the D next year as well.

 

[Avery]

Good article on Fewell from the Chicago Tribune.

Note the quotes below for those worried that all Fewell knows is the "passive" Tampa 2 scheme.

If they sat down and watched the film, they would see how Fewell dialed up three "Bonzai" blitzes on four plays at the end of the game to preserve a 30-23 Bills victory at Denver in Week 16 a year ago, a loss that kept Cutler out of the playoffs.

Bonzai is a zero blitz, meaning the receivers are locked up in man coverage with no safety help. Everyone else is rushing the passer. With Cutler at the Bills' 20-yard line, the Bills' defensive coordinator brought the house on first, third and fourth downs, with the final pass to Brandon Stokley getting broken up by nickel back Reggie Corner.

Fewell also isn't afraid to introduce new ideas. When the Bears were preparing to play the Falcons in Week 15 in 2005, he suggested they try some "46" defensive fronts against the Falcons, something he had seen work against them in the past. The Bears put the film on, liked the idea and went to what they called their "King" front with five linemen. They throttled Atlanta 16-3.

 

[RC94]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4905683

Pierce says he's been released

ESPN.com news services

Giants Release Antonio Pierce

The New York Giants have released middle linebacker Antonio Pierce after five seasons.

Mosley on Pierce's release

The timing seems a bit odd, but :the decision to cut Antonio Pierce shouldn't come as a shock, as Matt Mosley writes.

"I was shocked at first, but I'm not the one up there up in the office, and they said they felt they needed to go in another direction," Pierce told ESPN's Rachel Nichols on Thursday. "They said it wasn't my health, or the way I played, but just that -- that they were going in another direction. We left everything smooth and peaceful and I'm happy about that. I felt like I said everything I needed to say to them. I've loved my time in New York and won't have anything but good feelings about being with this team."

Pierce said the reason he was in the New York area was to have a doctor look at the herniated disk in his neck that caused him to miss the final seven games of last season. He said the MRI was "very positive."

"I can't say I'm 100 percent yet, but with the season still six months away, I'm right where I need to be and I'm going to be fine," he said.

Pierce had one season left on the contract he signed as a free agent in 2005.

When asked if he had an idea of where he might play next or if he has been contacted by other teams, Pierce said, "I have no wish list. If I had a preference, it would be to stay in the NFC East, since I know the division so well. But I just want to go somewhere I can help a good team."

Defensive coordinator Bill Sheridan and defensive line coach Mike Waufle were fired after the season and Pierce, who signed a $26 million contract as a free agent in 2005, was let go a month later.

Pierce also had one major off-the-field problem with the Giants. He drove a wounded Plaxico Burress to the hospital in November 2008 after the star receiver shot himself in a New York City nightclub and then took Burress' unlicensed gun back to New Jersey.

A grand jury opted not to indict him this past summer, but the incident, which led to Burress being sent to prison, was a burden for Pierce and the team for almost a year, even though Giants president John Mara openly defended Pierce.

For most of his time, Pierce was an outstanding football player for the Giants. He led the team in tackles three times, was a three-year captain, a Pro Bowler in 2006 and one of the inspirational leaders of the squad that did not have a losing season in his five years.

"When we brought him in here we were interested in A.P. for all of the dimensions he brought to the table: his leadership qualities, his natural charismatic ability to rally the troops. He loved football, he's a very smart football player. He took great pride in studying the tape and knowing what everybody did on defense," Giants coach Tom Coughlin said, adding Pierce "has worn that Giant uniform very, very proudly."

Pierce talked to Coughlin on Wednesday and met with general manager Jerry Reese on Thursday, when he was told that he was being let go.

Second-year pro Jonathan Goff started at middle linebacker after Pierce was hurt, although Chase Blackburn has also played the position for New York.

Pierce finished his final season with the Giants with 51 tackles (31 solo), three tackles for losses, a sack, two passes defensed, a forced fumble and a fumble recovery. His five-year totals with the Giants were 537 tackles (322 solo), seven sacks, six forced fumbles, seven fumble recoveries and four interceptions. Pierce also had 44 postseason tackles (28 solo).

An undrafted free agent, Pierce played his first four seasons with the Washington Redskins.

"I have nothing but very strong love for the New York Giants," Pierce said. "Obviously, I wanted to end it when my contract ended, but it didn't. It ended a year early. But I have no regrets. I have nothing to look back on and wish I had done it differently. Now it's time to look forward at the possibilities that I have."

 

[netnalp]

The team has been happy with how Michael Johnson has been developing at safety, but it will be how he performs in the new scheme that will determine his fate.

I'm glad we got rid of Sheridan. Osi had issues with him and I was concerned that Osi might demand a trade if there wasn't a change at DC.

We need a new MLB for sure. I'm not ready to bail on Boley, Bernard and Canty yet, they were all hurt and the entire Def. was a mess.

 

[Yenrub]

I read that Osi may demand a trade if he isn't named the starter

 

[Avery]

Love Pierce and what he meant to the team in production and leadership but at this point he is a 2 down backer recovering from a serious neck injury.

Curious who will step up in the leadership role for the defense.

Tough choices to be made in a tough business.

 

[Giantseasonticketholder]

Dear Mr. Reese,

PLEASE TRADE UP A FEW SPOTS AND DRAFT ROLANDO MCCLAIN.

That's all.

Your pal,

GSTH

 

[houndirish]

I value Peirce's contributions as a Giant but I don't disagree with his release. His play had slipped the past two years. He's replaceable.

I won't go out on a limb and say I'm comfortable with guys like Boley, Stintim, Goff, and Canty receiving a starter's ration of playing time however I'll be surprised if the Giants don't get meaningful contributions from at least one of them.

I'd be happy with a first or second round pick being spent on the o-line. I'm going to cry if Phillips can't make it back from injury as he was displaying the potential many of us were confident he had.

I don't think I want to patch LB with a free agent (unless it's Karlos Dansby). We haven't had a lot of success doing that (Barret Green, Boley, Emmons,etc.). I think Merriman's best football is already behind him. He strikes me as a guy who will continue to struggle to stay healthy as his steroid habit from his college and early pro years continues to catch up with his body.

This draft is deep at Defensive Line so if the right guy is there I'd be OK going in that direction. Or if one of the sterling LB'rs is available that would be a catch. I wouldn't complain if we landed the safety from USC either.

 

[bigern1000]

Dear Mr. Reese,PLEASE TRADE UP A FEW SPOTS AND DRAFT ROLANDO MCCLAIN.That's all.Your pal,GSTH

Can't say I disagree with that logic.What's up with Gartrell...? I loved it when we stole him away from SD, but I guess I'm still trying to fully figure what his role, if any, could be in the backfield this season...

 

[Avery]

According to PFT, the Giants are on Dansby's short list:

Recently, Dansby listed four teams in which he's interested during an appearance on Sirius NFL Radio: the Giants, Chargers, Dolphins, and Redskins.

He'll probably get quite a pay day but pair him with (a healthy) Boley and Sintim/rookie LB and the Giants LB corps would look a whole lot stronger.

 

[Avery]

Also, in case anyone missed it there was some shuffling with some assistant coaches when Palmer, the great QB coach who will be missed, retired/quit.

Mike Sullivan moves from WR coach to QB coach and Sean Ryan moves from offensive quality control coach to WR coach.

 

[netnalp]

Giants' Phillips eyes May OTA's for return

Kenny Phillips is still at least a month away from attempting to run, but the star-in-waiting Giants safety says his rehabilitation from a serious knee injury is going smoothly, and that he's targeted the Organized Team Activity practices in May for his return.

"I feel real good, everything feels strong, so I should be all-in by OTA's," Phillips said in an interview on the team's Web site.

Phillips, in his second season, cracked the starting lineup, and after a brilliant summer was the Giants' leading tackler. He also had two interceptions in the first two games before he was placed on injured reserve.

He was diagnosed with patellofemoral arthritis in his left knee, a degenerative condition, and fears arose about his long-term future. The Giants insist that Phillips, following surgery back in October to relieve the condition, can come back as good as new.

"It did scare me," Phillips said. "The doctors and the trainers made me very aware of my situation and told me guys have had it before and are still playing with it.

"It's nothing to be afraid of, you can make 100 percent recovery. I knew I had to put in some work, and that's what I'm doing. They told me I won't lose anything. Probably be even better."

Phillips says he's at the halfway point in his rehab. He spends his time walking forward and backward on a treadmill. He's hopeful that after his next MRI he'll be ready to begin running in late March.

"Just a matter of time before I'm up and running again," Phillips said.

paul.schwartz@nypost.com

 

[saintfool]

how happy are the giants with boss? is there any chance that beckum moves into the starting TE role?

 

[netnalp]

how happy are the giants with boss? is there any chance that beckum moves into the starting TE role?

I expect Beckum will take over as the receiving TE and Boss as the blocker. But it really depends on Bekum's health and how he develops. Gilbride said in camp last summer that with the amount of camp Beckum missed due to injury, 2009 would likely be a wash for him. According to FFO, the Giants ran better in 2008 without a FB in the backfield, if that holds true for 2009, maybe there will be more 2 TE sets, so maybe he'll get enough snaps to develop quickly. Though in this offense only the #1 TE will be fantasy worthy.I think we've seen what Boss can do, he's hit his ceiling. He's a solid, reliable TE but I don't think he's going to break into the top tiers of TEs.With Nicks, Smith, and Manningham getting looks any TE will have trouble getting looks. I don't expect Beckum to take the #1 in 2010, 2011 is when I'd predict him to move up the depth chart.

 

[netnalp]

Giants 2010 Free Agent Scorecard Last Updated: 3/2/2010

http://www.bigblueinteractive.com/free-age...gent-scorecard/

Exclusive Rights Free Agents (If tendered):

HB D.J. Ware
TE Scott Chandler
S/CB D.J. JohnsonRestricted Free Agents (If tendered):

WR Domenik Hixon (2nd-Round Tender – 1-year, $1.684 million)
TE Darcy Johnson (Not Tendered)
DE Dave Tollefson (2nd-Round Tender – 1-year, $1.684 million)
WR Sinorice Moss* (2nd-Round Tender – 1-year, $1.176 million)*
WR Derek Hagan* (Tendered)*
OT Guy Whimper* (4th-Round Tender – 1-year, $1.176 million)*
OG Kevin Boothe* (Tendered)*
DT Barry Cofield* (2nd-Round Tender – 1-year, $1.759 million)*
LB Gerris Wilkinson* (3rd-Round Tender – 1-year, $1.176 million)*
CB Kevin Dockery* (Not Tendered)*
S C.C. Brown* (Right of First Refusal Tender – 1-year, $1.226 million )** Unrestricted free agent if CBA is renewed; restricted free agent if it is not.

Unrestricted Free Agents:

QB David Carr
DT Fred Robbins
LB Danny Clark
P Jeff Feagles

 

[Avery]

Giants 2010 Free Agent Scorecard Last Updated: 3/2/2010

Exclusive Rights Free Agents (If tendered):

HB D.J. Ware
TE Scott Chandler
S/CB D.J. JohnsonRestricted Free Agents (If tendered):

WR Domenik Hixon (2nd-Round Tender – 1-year, $1.684 million)
TE Darcy Johnson (Not Tendered)
DE Dave Tollefson (2nd-Round Tender – 1-year, $1.684 million)
WR Sinorice Moss* (2nd-Round Tender – 1-year, $1.176 million)*
WR Derek Hagan* (Tendered)*
OT Guy Whimper* (4th-Round Tender – 1-year, $1.176 million)*
OG Kevin Boothe* (Tendered)*
DT Barry Cofield* (2nd-Round Tender – 1-year, $1.759 million)*
LB Gerris Wilkinson* (3rd-Round Tender – 1-year, $1.176 million)*
CB Kevin Dockery* (Not Tendered)*
S C.C. Brown* (Right of First Refusal Tender – 1-year, $1.226 million )** Unrestricted free agent if CBA is renewed; restricted free agent if it is not.

Unrestricted Free Agents:

QB David Carr
DT Fred Robbins
LB Danny Clark
P Jeff Feagles

Good info, but I think you should credit Eric over at BBI with at least a link.

 

[Yenrub]

link

Giants already out of running for Dansby?

 

[Avery]

link

Giants already out of running for Dansby?

FWIW, Mortensen said on twitter 8 minutes ago:

League folks think it's Giants vs. Dolphins for Dansby.

Also head some info that the Giants were looking at Antrel Rolle.Either (or both!) would allow the Giants to be more flexible in the draft.

 

[bigern1000]

link

Giants already out of running for Dansby?

FWIW, Mortensen said on twitter 8 minutes ago:

League folks think it's Giants vs. Dolphins for Dansby.

Also head some info that the Giants were looking at Antrel Rolle.Either (or both!) would allow the Giants to be more flexible in the draft.

Would love that, but won't he probably be a Bear in about an hour...? Or is that just hearsay...?

 

[Avery]

link

Giants already out of running for Dansby?

FWIW, Mortensen said on twitter 8 minutes ago:

League folks think it's Giants vs. Dolphins for Dansby.

Also head some info that the Giants were looking at Antrel Rolle.Either (or both!) would allow the Giants to be more flexible in the draft.

Would love that, but won't he probably be a Bear in about an hour...? Or is that just hearsay...?

I heard that he would be a Bear at midnight and I also heard from somewhere else he was visiting the G-men later tomorrow.Many conflicting rumors going around right now.

We'll know soon enough.

 

[netnalp]

www.rotoworld.com

According to Profootballtalk.com, the Bears have dropped out of the race for free agent FS Antrel Rolle.

The Bears already have visits lined up with Julius Peppers and Chester Taylor, so they'll take precedence. Rolle is expected to meet with the Giants Friday, though he was in Miami Thursday night.Source: Profootballtalk on NBCSports.com

I hope this doesn't mean Phillips recovery doesn't look good, news on him has been he's on schedule. I'm assuming that Rolle would be a big upgrade over Johnson.

 

[Avery]

www.rotoworld.com

According to Profootballtalk.com, the Bears have dropped out of the race for free agent FS Antrel Rolle.

The Bears already have visits lined up with Julius Peppers and Chester Taylor, so they'll take precedence. Rolle is expected to meet with the Giants Friday, though he was in Miami Thursday night.Source: Profootballtalk on NBCSports.com

I hope this doesn't mean Phillips recovery doesn't look good, news on him has been he's on schedule. I'm assuming that Rolle would be a big upgrade over Johnson.

Any signing/drafting the Giants do at safety aren't going to be any indication about problems with Phillips recovery.From Jerry Reese at the combine via Garafolo and The Star-Ledger:

“Kenny’s doing great. He’s on schedule. There’s no pain right now with his knee. He’s got a great attitude about it. We expect him to come back and be 100 percent. I don’t think you can put all your eggs in Kenny’s basket right now because that’s a tough injury to come back from, so we’ll try to be prepared if he doesn’t come back 100 percent.”

 

[RC94]

I would be very happy if the Giants sign Rolle and Morrison.

 

[silentmark]

Might be nice if you got a QB who didn't quit on his team and suck in the big games, but gets by because of his name and the fact that David Tyree made his career catch when it counted in the Super Bowl.

sorta like the iggles qb ...

 

[Yenrub]

If the Giants lose out to the Dolphins for Dansby might not be all bad because it might lead to McClain (LB Alabama) dropping to the Giants at 15.

I would be happy if they got Rolle and ended up drafting McClain

 

[bigern1000]

If the Giants lose out to the Dolphins for Dansby might not be all bad because it might lead to McClain (LB Alabama) dropping to the Giants at 15.I would be happy if they got Rolle and ended up drafting McClain

IMO, drafting McClain at 1.15 would be the best-case scenario, and even better if they are able to ink Rolle as that would lead to a little more flexibility in the 2nd rd...

 

[Koya]

Might be nice if you got a QB who didn't quit on his team and suck in the big games, but gets by because of his name and the fact that David Tyree made his career catch when it counted in the Super Bowl.

sorta like the iggles qb ...

Anyone who thinks Eli is a quitter (1) has an axe to grind (2) is just stating bs on a message board or (3) doesnt know much / watch the game.Eli has his drawbacks, but quitting ain't one of them... but claiming it is says quite a bit about whomever is foolish enough to post such a thing.Jealousy? I don't know what else it could be. Jealousy of a goofy kid that made it and is making a ton (more than he deserves but thats the game, and it's about timing) and/or jealousy of a winning franchise whom had some nice luck along their way to a recent super bowl ring.

 

[FavreCo]

Might be nice if you got a QB who didn't quit on his team and suck in the big games, but gets by because of his name and the fact that David Tyree made his career catch when it counted in the Super Bowl.

From a guy who follows the team with Jason Campbell as the starting QB.Maybe you should concentrate your efforts on wishing you had an NFL QB.

 

[Avery]

I would be very happy if the Giants sign Rolle and Morrison.

Heard Rolle was taking a physical late this afternoon.

 

[Avery]

I would be very happy if the Giants sign Rolle and Morrison.

Heard Rolle was taking a physical late this afternoon.

Also hearing the Giants are "talking" to Sharper as a backup plan if Rolle doesn't sign.