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***Official 2011 Philadelphia Eagles Thread*** (1 Viewer)
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Terpman22
Footballguy
No. He is too small, but could easily see NA convert to S in his latter years. He instantly becomes one of the smartest players on our team and could easily QB the defense.
And this is one of the best things about all of the moves they have made. Sure, it looks like the are "all in" for this year. That type of expression typically implies that something in the future is being given up to win now. Maybe the best part is that absolutely none of these moves are putting the team in a bad situation for the future and they have actually stacked picks for next years draft with 6 picks in the first 4 rounds.They sure aren't getting a trophy for winning the off season this year, but I cant' think of a better way to get excited for this season!'Bigboy10182000 said:
JetMaxx
Footballguy
I would drive Asante to the airport if a 1 were offered. Add another 1 to that wealth of picks and they could be in the market for Luck if things fell right.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
There is a time and a place where it makes sense to just keep your asset. Having three top end corners is not a luxury any longer - it's a must to play strong defense in the NFL these days. The Jets know that, and that's why they wanted Nnamdi or Cromartie (who they might still get?).Keep all 3 corners, please.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Just getting caught up.... Cullen Jenkins too? And Babin? Trent Cole sounds like a lock for double-digit sacks now. If we sure up LB this is a beast of a defense.
kylechoffman
Footballguy
Fantastic week for the birds.
Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
I have been reading that Asante no longer fits their defensive scheme since he is more of a zone corner and will not do as well in their man to man coverage.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Joe Banner was on Philly radio tonight asked if they have room left for more moves, and he said, "HELL YEAH."Where are they getting all of this money?
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
They signed Evan Mathis today who's a guard, I don't know much about him but hopefully they add another OL.
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Per profootballfocus twitter:
Evan Mathis has played 724 snaps over the past 2 seasons and allowed 0 sacks. Also been a fine run blocker
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Per profootballfocus twitter:
Evan Mathis has played 724 snaps over the past 2 seasons and allowed 0 sacks. Also been a fine run blocker
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fruity pebbles
Footballguy
need to use what they have left to get desean on the field.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
I can't imagine he'll be an issue, unless he wants #1 WR money. He without question deserves a bump in salary though. Sal Pal said in Jackson's case, if he doesn't report by 8/27 then be loses a whole year of eligibility. I had no idea it was that early but he'll be there sooner rather then later I would think. With all of these moves it makes me wonder if they redo Vick or not....
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
From what I'm reading he's not a power blocker, more of an athletic pulling guard. Reports on him were that he was a very underrated player.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Here's the write up I read:
smackdaddies
Footballguy
cobalt_27
Footballguy
Reports are they traded Kevin Kolb a few days ago, too.Keep us posted if you hear anything new!
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smackdaddies
Footballguy
It was a late nightIt's earlyReports are they traded Kevin Kolb a few days ago, too.Keep us posted if you hear anything new!
I only have had 2 cups of coffee
the sun was in my eyes
ah hell
Mighty Mice
Footballguy
Great find on the article. Looks like we overhauled the guard position this offseason - should lead to a better overall O-line, as long as there is enough time for these new pieces to gel. Peters and Justice still on the outside but the middle is very much in transition. Of course, I wouldn't be shocked if we added Jake Long by the time I get back from the driving range.
CiscoKid
Footballguy
Sounds like good insurance until Watkins gets signed and up to speed. I've also been seeing a lot of blurbs recently that it's possible Mudd might move Herremans to RT, though - starting to wonder if there's any truth to it...
cobalt_27
Footballguy
It was a late nightIt's earlyReports are they traded Kevin Kolb a few days ago, too.Keep us posted if you hear anything new!
I only have had 2 cups of coffee
the sun was in my eyes
ah hell
No worries. Just thought it was funny.
CiscoKid
Footballguy
I think some attitude and aggression is a good thing on the OL so long as the penalties are kept in check - that's one of the things that I think the line has really been lacking since we lost Runyan. It's also one of the things I liked about the Watkins pick. The reports I read on him stated that's one of the characteristics that he possesses as well.
SouthJersey
Footballguy
Some blurbs from Nnamdi's press conference today:
-The Eagles were his 1st choice all along.
-Vick recruited him at the Pro-Bowl and Desean was calling/texting him all summer.
-The Eagles weren't in the bidding right away, but once they got involved they were aggresssive.
-He left money on the table but said he wanted to go to a team that was the right fit for him.
-Is letting Hanson keep #21 since Hanson said the # was important to him. Nnamdi said no big deal, only a #, and is gonna wear 24.
-Said he's excited about playing with Assante and DRC. Said it shouldn't be a problem for his style to mix with Assante's...said he'll "make it work"
-The Eagles have a winning feel about the organization and he loves it and it's something he was seeking.
He's a really humble and bright guy. I'm psyched to have him on our squad. Can't believe that this time last yaer I thought we were in rebuilding mode and now we're legit SB contenders. Props to Andy, Howie and Banner.
-The Eagles were his 1st choice all along.
-Vick recruited him at the Pro-Bowl and Desean was calling/texting him all summer.
-The Eagles weren't in the bidding right away, but once they got involved they were aggresssive.
-He left money on the table but said he wanted to go to a team that was the right fit for him.
-Is letting Hanson keep #21 since Hanson said the # was important to him. Nnamdi said no big deal, only a #, and is gonna wear 24.
-Said he's excited about playing with Assante and DRC. Said it shouldn't be a problem for his style to mix with Assante's...said he'll "make it work"
-The Eagles have a winning feel about the organization and he loves it and it's something he was seeking.
He's a really humble and bright guy. I'm psyched to have him on our squad. Can't believe that this time last yaer I thought we were in rebuilding mode and now we're legit SB contenders. Props to Andy, Howie and Banner.
renesauz
IBL Representative
I've been thinking the same thing. Aso and DRC can handle man coverage a little better, freeing the rest to smear the QB.That said, it may not be Asante's strong suit, but he's no slouch. Just because his style is better suited to a zone scheme doesn't mean he can't be (at times very) effective with more man coverage. With the WR's Dallas and NY have, I'd rather keep him unless somenoe offers an absolute bounty of riches (a strong starting caliber LB and a 2nd, or something along those lines.
Saint
Footballguy
I am actually debating about taking a roadtrip up to training camp next weekend. Never done it before. Anyway, I saw they had QBs and DBs in the autograph tent on Sunday morning. Has anyone gone up there before? If so, what timeframe do you need to show up to get an autograph ticket as I heard they are limited. Anyway, drop me a pm if you've done it. Thanks!
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
I caught that presser too. What a class act! I had no idea he was that classy and articulate as well. The guy wants to pursue an acting career after. I think he just became my favorite Eagle since Dawkins!
Donny Loved Bowling
Footballguy
Don't go rushing out to buy those Asomugha #24 jerseys just yet... if Curtis Marsh looks legit in camp and Patterson has improved at all, I'm guessing that #21 may yet become available.
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
Unless I missed something, Eagles did not resign Dimitri Patterson.
Donny Loved Bowling
Footballguy
My mistake, I meant Lindley. If the young guys look good, I would expect Hanson to be dealt or released. He's overpriced as a dime corner.
modogg
Footballguy
nice to read this part of the report from rotoworld:"Agent Drew Rosenhaus suggested two months ago that he's learned not to force the Eagles' hand with a public standoff."
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
yeah he does. he has zero leverage. hope the eagles do the right thing and pay the man. if they dont, if i were him, i wouldnt sign with them for any amount of money at seasons end.
Insein
Footballguy
Good to see Drew learning and adapting. He's good at what he does. Yea he's got an ego but he gets his players paid. No sense in forcing public sentiment against his client this time.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
If the player doesn't like a contract, he shouldn't sign it. If he does, he should honor it.If the player doesn't like the fact that the owners don't have honor contracts they signed with players, they should negotiate it in the CBA.
Insein
Footballguy
You act as if the players have some kind of power in the NFL. They don't. Even a holdout has very little leverage. Its more of reminder that they aren't happy and would like to be paid. Ultimately, the player and the agent know that they have little recourse for forcing a new contract. Honoring it is a ridiculous notion. Players are basically year to year employees that stay as long as the team needs them or its too costly to get rid of them. As for negotiating it in the CBA, that will NEVER happen. Not just because they just finished a 10 year agreement but because its an understood pillar of the NFL that there are no guaranteed contracts. If the players tried to argue for them, they would be stonewalled. Owenrs would be unanimous in their stance against it.
Whether holding out is right or not, Desean needs to get paid. Honoring his contract is a joke at this point. If you feel you're underpaid at your work compared to the level of accomplishment you bring, you speak to your boss about it. If they have any business sense, they give you a raise to keep you happy or else you goto a competitor.
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need2know
Footballguy
Absolutely agree. I am actually going through a 'holdout' of my own with my employer. I know I am underpaid and could get more elsewhere. I told them this morning give me a raise or I am gone. Balls is in there court; we'll see what happens
Jason Wood
Zoo York
So Maclin isn't in camp due to an illness that Andy describes as, "A personal thing and I can't go any further than that."
I know he had mono but that should've been all clear by now.
I know he had mono but that should've been all clear by now.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
I'm well aware of how NFL contracts work. But in the last negotiations, the players did have leverage. The owners were not allowed to use replacement players so it was either them or nothing. If non-guarenteed contracts are a pillar of the NFL, then the players get what they deserve in terms of being underpaid. The NFL owners raped the players with respect to holdout in the new CBA.
@Need2Know, if you had a contract to work for the rest of the year and came to your bosses office and said "pay me or i'm gone", he would give you a copy of your contract and be happy to fax it over to the other employer who wished to pay you more just to let both of you know that you will be working there for the duration of the contract or nowhere.
dhockster
Footballguy
Thanks, Bankerguy. Hopefully all the new acquisitions perform on the field the way us Eagle's fans hope. After all, Off-season Championshipsare nice, but we would like a really championship to celebrate.BTW, do you think Jerry Jones will recover from losing Aso to the Eagles?
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
Let's try this again, third time's a charm hopefully:
1. Vick's extension is close. In fact, I would expect it to be announced very soon. DeSean's will get done, but it's not nearly as close. My opinion is that one is tied to another. No way Vick's cap number will be as high as it is now for this year and a lot of that money saved will go to Jackson.
2. Expect some LBs in here sooner than later as 'they're not happy with the depth at the position' (my retort was 'yeah, no kidding. I couldn't name three LB on the team much less three starting ones' ).
3. You know what they said about Samuel not going anywhere. Yeah....don't believe it. If they get the right deal, he's gone. They've talked to three teams already (he was hush, hush on the teams).
4. Look for MJG to be back soon for some O-line depth. I'm frankly shocked it hasn't happened yet.
1. Vick's extension is close. In fact, I would expect it to be announced very soon. DeSean's will get done, but it's not nearly as close. My opinion is that one is tied to another. No way Vick's cap number will be as high as it is now for this year and a lot of that money saved will go to Jackson.
2. Expect some LBs in here sooner than later as 'they're not happy with the depth at the position' (my retort was 'yeah, no kidding. I couldn't name three LB on the team much less three starting ones'
).3. You know what they said about Samuel not going anywhere. Yeah....don't believe it. If they get the right deal, he's gone. They've talked to three teams already (he was hush, hush on the teams).
4. Look for MJG to be back soon for some O-line depth. I'm frankly shocked it hasn't happened yet.
dhockster
Footballguy
The amazing think about what the Eagles have done is that they extra draft picks next year in the 2nd, 4th, and 5th round, and
they are really not in any sort of salary cap hell. Jason Lacanfore (Sp.) had a report on the Eagles this morning that showed how
their new acquisitions really are not bad salary cap figures this year, and they have outs in several contracts that they could
get out of them after this year without much of a cap hit. If you take into account that the Eagles could also gain more cap space
this year by signing Vick to a long-term deal or by trading Asante, and you really appreciate what Roseman and Banner have done. I think
for sure they will extend Vick and use some of that extra cap space to re-do Desean's contract. Even though they have all the leverage
against Desean, he is not the type of player that you want disgruntled for the whole season. I think he could become a lockerroom cancer
very quickly.
Now it is up to Reid to actually get to the Super Bowl and win that thing.
they are really not in any sort of salary cap hell. Jason Lacanfore (Sp.) had a report on the Eagles this morning that showed how
their new acquisitions really are not bad salary cap figures this year, and they have outs in several contracts that they could
get out of them after this year without much of a cap hit. If you take into account that the Eagles could also gain more cap space
this year by signing Vick to a long-term deal or by trading Asante, and you really appreciate what Roseman and Banner have done. I think
for sure they will extend Vick and use some of that extra cap space to re-do Desean's contract. Even though they have all the leverage
against Desean, he is not the type of player that you want disgruntled for the whole season. I think he could become a lockerroom cancer
very quickly.
Now it is up to Reid to actually get to the Super Bowl and win that thing.
dhockster
Footballguy
I'm glad I'm thinking along the right lines.Thanks for the info, DH.Let's try this again, third time's a charm hopefully:
1. Vick's extension is close. In fact, I would expect it to be announced very soon. DeSean's will get done, but it's not nearly as close. My opinion is that one is tied to another. No way Vick's cap number will be as high as it is now for this year and a lot of that money saved will go to Jackson.2. Expect some LBs in here sooner than later as 'they're not happy with the depth at the position' (my retort was 'yeah, no kidding. I couldn't name three LB on the team much less three starting ones'
3. You know what they said about Samuel not going anywhere. Yeah....don't believe it. If they get the right deal, he's gone. They've talked to three teams already (he was hush, hush on the teams).
4. Look for MJG to be back soon for some O-line depth. I'm frankly shocked it hasn't happened yet.
CiscoKid
Footballguy
I know I'm being greedy now, but I'd hoping they bring in Lofa Tatupu in for a look2. Expect some LBs in here sooner than later as 'they're not happy with the depth at the position' (my retort was 'yeah, no kidding. I couldn't name three LB on the team much less three starting ones'
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