***Official 2011 Philadelphia Eagles Thread*** (1 Viewer)

[need2know]

According to Ruben Frank during the post-game show, McCoy had 1 touch over the final quarter and a half. One touch for one of the game's most explosive players during a time when you had the lead (twice) and needed to control the clock.How does that happen? Hard to imagine after they had their mini 2-game win streak when we were all praising how they got the running game going. Now 2 weeks in a row, McCoy is under-utilized when the game is in control.Also according to Frank, the Eagles blowing 4 4th quarter leads at home in one season is a new NFL record. Historic collapses.

so at the very least castillo must b fired yes?

 

[Amused to Death]

According to Ruben Frank during the post-game show, McCoy had 1 touch over the final quarter and a half. One touch for one of the game's most explosive players during a time when you had the lead (twice) and needed to control the clock.How does that happen? Hard to imagine after they had their mini 2-game win streak when we were all praising how they got the running game going. Now 2 weeks in a row, McCoy is under-utilized when the game is in control.Also according to Frank, the Eagles blowing 4 4th quarter leads at home in one season is a new NFL record. Historic collapses.

so at the very least castillo must b fired yes?

IMO, its a crime against the fans if he's still the DC tomorrow morning. But yeah he's gotta go after the season. If not Sean McDermott should be pretty mad he was made the scape goat last year. At some point you'd think the bulls eye shifts to the guy who keeps hiring these bad DC's. At the very least, someone else has to do the hiring whether Andy likes it or not.Apparently just sitting next to Jim Johnson all those years doesn't make you a competent DC for a team with Super Bowl aspirations.

 

[Amused to Death]

Wow, someone took control of Dave Spadaro's computer and filed this under his name:

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The Eagles were outplayed by backup quarterback John Skelton, who threw 3 touchdowns. They were outcoached by Arizona's staff, which created favorable matchups at critical times. They were out-passioned by a Cardinals team that had nothing to play for, yet still played harder and tougher than an Eagles team with a season on the line.

Want to experience some misery? Look at all of the errors the Eagles made. Let's discuss a few now from a loss that threatens to blow this whole thing up. The playoffs are a near-impossible thought at this point. The Eagles are 3-6 heading into a nationally-televised game at the Giants on Sunday night.

As a result, the Eagles lost for the seventh time in their last eight games at Lincoln Financial Field and any playoff hopes faded to near invisible. This team is in deep, deep trouble. There are no answers at this point, and no real conclusions other than this: The Eagles are not a good team. They are a 3-6 team after losing in embarrassing fashion to a lousy Arizona team.

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These are some of the 'highlights' of his article. I don't want to read too much into it but it can't be good when the team's own PR guy says they were out-coached, out-passioned, in danger of the season blowing up, the team being in deep, deep trouble with no answers and just flat out embarrassing.

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/dave-spadaro/article-1/Eagles-Sink-To-Lowest-Point/1dfdf667-3c33-445f-a90b-50a52c0e0243

 

[jasvic]

I don't want to read too much into it...

I do, and was starting to think big changes are coming soon if that useless sack Spadaro was given permission to write that...until I saw this part:

Why didn't McCoy get more than 14 carries (he had 81 yards and a touchdown)? Easy. The Cardinals played eight men in the box with a single safety high. You have to pass when you see eight men in the box.

Still making excuses for the play calling philosophy.

 

[Amused to Death]

I don't want to read too much into it...

I do, and was starting to think big changes are coming soon if that useless sack Spadaro was given permission to write that...until I saw this part:

Why didn't McCoy get more than 14 carries (he had 81 yards and a touchdown)? Easy. The Cardinals played eight men in the box with a single safety high. You have to pass when you see eight men in the box.

Still making excuses for the play calling philosophy.

Yeah I caught that too, but you gotta agree this is change in Spadaro's tune. Outcoached? Out-passioned? No answers? Not good coming from the PR department and I too wondered if that had to be approved or would sit well with upper management.And I think some cracks are showing. DRC on the sideline last week and DJax benched (told to stay away from the stadium??). One more incident and I would officially put them on meltdown watch. The one thing I thought couldn't save Reid was losing the locker room. Wonder how close that point is.

 

[jasvic]

Oh I agree. I've always hated Spadaro because he'd try to pass himself off as a reporter when he's just a mouthpiece for the team. That last line makes me think Castillo is gone this week as the scapegoat for Reid's failure.

 

[scratcher]

Its sickening how poorly Nnamdi is used. The dysfunctional Raiders lined Nnamdi up on Fitz all day long last year. The results? 2 catches for 28 yards for the best receiver in football. This year Nnamdi covered Fitz only when on his side. The results? 7 catches for 146 yards and 2 TDs.

Seriously. Keep it simple stupid.

 

[babydemon90]

Hate to say it, as I've been a Reid supporter, but he is solely responsible for this. The team has no heart. It's sad, when they got the ball back with 2 minutes to go, needing a TD - I knew there was no way they would do it. Against the Arizona Cardinal defense. Lots of blame, sure - Vick was horrible, defense was horrible - but this level of underachieving across the board has to be laid at the feet of the head coach.

I'm sure he will do well somewhere else, but this is enough. Something has to be done to light a spark in this team.

 

[dhockster]

two things:

1) The Eagles really lack team leaders since Dawkins left. I think that is one of the downsides in bringing in a lot of Free Agents, there

is a lack of continuity and you don't know who your leaders are going to be.

2) Boomer Esiason should be fired. When they were discussing what was wrong with the Eagles yesterday after the game, Shannon Sharpe pointed out

that you don't bring all that defensive talent in to play for a guy who has never coached defense (good point). Boomer chimes in with "Where is Donovan McNabb? all I know is when Donovan was there, all they did was win, and now that Donovan is gone, all they do is lose". Boomer seems to forget they won last year without McNabb, and McNabb has done absolutely nothing since leaving the Eagles. The Eagles have plenty of problems, but not having Donovan McNabb is not one of them.

 

[loose circuits]

QB playing with broken ribs

only good WR had separated shoulder after Wilson lit him up

DRC has high ankle sprain

this explains some things...

 

[Amused to Death]

QB playing with broken ribsonly good WR had separated shoulder after Wilson lit him upDRC has high ankle sprainthis explains some things...

Like why they're 3-9 in their last 12 games? Or 1-7 in their last 8 home games? Like why they haven't won playoff game since '08? Or why an O-line coach is running our pathetic defense? The one that just let a bad Cardinal's team beat us with their back up QB from Fordham and his only weapon?I'm not convinced.

 

[loose circuits]

QB playing with broken ribsonly good WR had separated shoulder after Wilson lit him upDRC has high ankle sprainthis explains some things...

Like why they're 3-9 in their last 12 games? Or 1-7 in their last 8 home games? Like why they haven't won playoff game since '08? Or why an O-line coach is running our pathetic defense? The one that just let a bad Cardinal's team beat us with their back up QB from Fordham and his only weapon?I'm not convinced.

i was more thinking why they couldn't move the ball at all against that weaker D and why Mike looked so awful

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Romo played (is playing) with broken ribs, correct? This shouldn't keep him out for games, should it?

 

[JAA]

Its sickening how poorly Nnamdi is used. The dysfunctional Raiders lined Nnamdi up on Fitz all day long last year. The results? 2 catches for 28 yards for the best receiver in football. This year Nnamdi covered Fitz only when on his side. The results? 7 catches for 146 yards and 2 TDs.Seriously. Keep it simple stupid.

This is the thing I dont get. If they said "Nnamdi, go cover Fitz" and he wasnt able to do it and Fitz scored 2 TDs, well it would be that our FA CB isnt as good as we thought. Instead, we get more of this "Lets outsmart ourselves with going against the grain"doesnt make any sense

 

[need2know]

Romo played (is playing) with broken ribs, correct? This shouldn't keep him out for games, should it?

Who knows but I am starting to think sitting all your eagles (except mccoy ) if u have decent options is not such a bad idea

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Season's long since been over. Only question is how many don't come back next year - from Reid on down.

Castillo should be gone by Thanksgiving. What a mess of a decision that was.

DeSean is sealing his own fate. He's overrated. Whining because they are covering deep passes? How about getting open somewhere else and then using your speed for yards after the catch? Too difficult for you?

Nnamdi absolutely should have been on Fitz's hip all day yesterday. Criminal mis-usage of one of the best cover corners around. You don't have Revis play zone. You don't let Deion play Tampa 2 and expect him to come up for run support. You don't put baby in the corner.

As for McCoy? Ridiculous. Find a way to get him the ball. Screens. Tosses. Misdirection handoffs / fake reverses. Get your best player the ball. Run the damn option if you have to with Vick.

And when is the last time Vick led a 4th quarter comeback? Has to be as as Falcon.

Time to re-focus on the holidays and then playoff games without this team.

 

[Please See Mine]

Is there a player that comes up smaller in the clutch than Maclin? If I remember correctly, this is the third game this season that's ended by him coming up short with the game on the line. Don't even get me started on Jackson, he seemed like he mailed it in already this season.All in all, this game played out pretty much how it had to for Chicago. They played an excellant game and if it wasn't for two fumbles by Forte (who never fumbles), the game isn't close. Like I said before, I dread these games because I really like both teams (but more slanted towards Chicago). I really think if Chicago plays like they did last night on Sunday vs. DET, they win.

No way that was on Maclin...ball was high and hard and it was a great catch at all.This game is on the lines...we lost in the trenches. Vick was constantly harassed by a D-line disiplined enough to leave him no rushing lanes. Our O-line was able to blow an occasional hole open for McCoy, but got dominated in pass protection.

I do like Maclin (I've long said he's better than Jackson) but he just seems to never make that 'big' play you need him to. The last pass against ATL, the play here against CHI and the last one against SF (I think he was the last play of the SF game, but my memory is hazy). That just using this year an an example.

If Steve Smith isn't healthy, ok. But if he's healthy and they aren't using him when they need a 1st down it's a shame because he was clutch for the Giants.

This is an interesting comment to read today.

 

[dhockster]

Season's long since been over. Only question is how many don't come back next year - from Reid on down.

Castillo should be gone by Thanksgiving. What a mess of a decision that was.

DeSean is sealing his own fate. He's overrated. Whining because they are covering deep passes? How about getting open somewhere else and then using your speed for yards after the catch? Too difficult for you?

Nnamdi absolutely should have been on Fitz's hip all day yesterday. Criminal mis-usage of one of the best cover corners around. You don't have Revis play zone. You don't let Deion play Tampa 2 and expect him to come up for run support. You don't put baby in the corner.

As for McCoy? Ridiculous. Find a way to get him the ball. Screens. Tosses. Misdirection handoffs / fake reverses. Get your best player the ball. Run the damn option if you have to with Vick.

And when is the last time Vick led a 4th quarter comeback? Has to be as as Falcon.

Time to re-focus on the holidays and then playoff games without this team.

Giants game last year at the Meadowlands. Vick led the team back to tie the game; Desean won it with the punt return.

 

[Colt Of Personality]

Season's long since been over. Only question is how many don't come back next year - from Reid on down.

Jeff, I'm a die hard but Reid isn't going anywhere. And that is the biggest problem. Lurie and Banner are in LOVE with the guy. This is the "gold standard" remember? Apathy is starting to run rampant once again in Philadelphia. I've BEEN tired of his "I'm smarter than you all" attitude. His coaching staff is over-matched. His clock management is STILL atrocious... and we don't have Donovan McNabb to kick around anymore, eh?I've look at the Sunday games the same way I look at "Tosh.O" and "Ridiculousness"... to get my comic relief. The only time they play with passion is when they play the Cowboys. Why is that exactly? Maybe every team can do us a favor and put a star on their helmet when they play us?If Andy Reid could just find that ever elusive way for himself to "do a better job" that he talks about in his after game press conference - maybe the birds can win a Super Bowls in his regime.On second thought.... nahhh

 

[delusional]

Juan should have been gone at the bye week. This game just proved he is totally clueless out there

It also proved it is still a reid driven offense, just be seeing the lack of touches for shady ( as posted above a few posts ). Its been this same #### for so many years. When things get tough he reverts back to that PASS PASS PASS PASSA PASS PASS PASS ####....its one of the reasons this team DOES NOT have a super bowl. They could have two in those playoff run years if he went with a more consistent balanced attack. It just shows hot stubborn of a coach he is & is needed to get out of town right away....hell should have been gone 3 years ago.

It is downright criminal to call games like that and also be considered a great coach at the same time.

Also, Shady had to tell Young he had to line up in shotgun, an not under center, on one play .....

Lets see them try to spin this #### in the random shots newsletter.

 

[Insein]

They've brought me to apathy. I don't care about this team either way this year. I didn't watch the Eagles game at all yesterday except for when it showed up on redzone. It was a pathetic display. I was actually looking at the score and hoping for AZ to win so we can get the tie breaker for draft picks when the new coach comes in.

I want a new coaching staff next year. That's it. I don't care who. Anyone with a fresh look would be a welcome change. They could turn out to be the next Kotite but it would be something I haven't seen for 13 years. When the fans can see plays before they are run and know results before they occur, then you'd have to guess a competant NFL coach could see the same and prepare for it. Its over. Reid is done. The death march of the last 7 games isn't going to prove anything. Hopefully Banner and Lurie see this and realize that Reid is not just bad for football, he's going to be bad for business if people just don't care anymore.

 

[jasvic]

They've brought me to apathy. I don't care about this team either way this year. I didn't watch the Eagles game at all yesterday except for when it showed up on redzone. It was a pathetic display. I was actually looking at the score and hoping for AZ to win so we can get the tie breaker for draft picks when the new coach comes in. I want a new coaching staff next year. That's it. I don't care who. Anyone with a fresh look would be a welcome change. They could turn out to be the next Kotite but it would be something I haven't seen for 13 years. When the fans can see plays before they are run and know results before they occur, then you'd have to guess a competant NFL coach could see the same and prepare for it. Its over. Reid is done. The death march of the last 7 games isn't going to prove anything. Hopefully Banner and Lurie see this and realize that Reid is not just bad for football, he's going to be bad for business if people just don't care anymore.

Pretty much. Last time I felt this way was in '94 when Kotite was wasting the 7-2 start. Just stopped watching until they fired him. I'm about at the same place now. How can I give up on my team if I'm a fan? Because the team gave up on its fans first. Until they make a major change they don't deserve anyone's loyalty.

 

[JAA]

They've brought me to apathy. I don't care about this team either way this year. I didn't watch the Eagles game at all yesterday except for when it showed up on redzone. It was a pathetic display. I was actually looking at the score and hoping for AZ to win so we can get the tie breaker for draft picks when the new coach comes in. I want a new coaching staff next year. That's it. I don't care who. Anyone with a fresh look would be a welcome change. They could turn out to be the next Kotite but it would be something I haven't seen for 13 years. When the fans can see plays before they are run and know results before they occur, then you'd have to guess a competant NFL coach could see the same and prepare for it. Its over. Reid is done. The death march of the last 7 games isn't going to prove anything. Hopefully Banner and Lurie see this and realize that Reid is not just bad for football, he's going to be bad for business if people just don't care anymore.

Could you imagine Cowher with this talent? He could easily draft the right linebackers, maybe even an OL. Hell, he could easily run a 3-4 with out DL. McCoy in his system ... awesome. Vick being asked to handoff and the occasional rollout ... genius. His blue collar aura would be revered in Philly.Such a great idea it makes too much sense and would never happen.

 

[fred_1_15301]

They've brought me to apathy. I don't care about this team either way this year. I didn't watch the Eagles game at all yesterday except for when it showed up on redzone. It was a pathetic display. I was actually looking at the score and hoping for AZ to win so we can get the tie breaker for draft picks when the new coach comes in. I want a new coaching staff next year. That's it. I don't care who. Anyone with a fresh look would be a welcome change. They could turn out to be the next Kotite but it would be something I haven't seen for 13 years. When the fans can see plays before they are run and know results before they occur, then you'd have to guess a competant NFL coach could see the same and prepare for it. Its over. Reid is done. The death march of the last 7 games isn't going to prove anything. Hopefully Banner and Lurie see this and realize that Reid is not just bad for football, he's going to be bad for business if people just don't care anymore.

Could you imagine Cowher with this talent? He could easily draft the right linebackers, maybe even an OL. Hell, he could easily run a 3-4 with out DL. McCoy in his system ... awesome. Vick being asked to handoff and the occasional rollout ... genius. His blue collar aura would be revered in Philly.Such a great idea it makes too much sense and would never happen.

I honestly believe that Cowher has no interest in coaching right now. He seems content with his current gig and spending lots of time with his daughters.

 

[Skeletore Eh]

Is there a player that comes up smaller in the clutch than Maclin? If I remember correctly, this is the third game this season that's ended by him coming up short with the game on the line. Don't even get me started on Jackson, he seemed like he mailed it in already this season.All in all, this game played out pretty much how it had to for Chicago. They played an excellant game and if it wasn't for two fumbles by Forte (who never fumbles), the game isn't close. Like I said before, I dread these games because I really like both teams (but more slanted towards Chicago). I really think if Chicago plays like they did last night on Sunday vs. DET, they win.

No way that was on Maclin...ball was high and hard and it was a great catch at all.This game is on the lines...we lost in the trenches. Vick was constantly harassed by a D-line disiplined enough to leave him no rushing lanes. Our O-line was able to blow an occasional hole open for McCoy, but got dominated in pass protection.

I do like Maclin (I've long said he's better than Jackson) but he just seems to never make that 'big' play you need him to. The last pass against ATL, the play here against CHI and the last one against SF (I think he was the last play of the SF game, but my memory is hazy). That just using this year an an example.

If Steve Smith isn't healthy, ok. But if he's healthy and they aren't using him when they need a 1st down it's a shame because he was clutch for the Giants.

This is an interesting comment to read today.

Interesting? Try infuriating. Guy dives two yards short of a first down. I didn't hear any comments from him, but I hope he said he thought he had the first down. Otherwise that was the softest play I've seen in a while. Stupidity I can understand. Not having it in you to put your head down for a first down I can't.

 

[netnalp]

Is there a player that comes up smaller in the clutch than Maclin? If I remember correctly, this is the third game this season that's ended by him coming up short with the game on the line. Don't even get me started on Jackson, he seemed like he mailed it in already this season.All in all, this game played out pretty much how it had to for Chicago. They played an excellant game and if it wasn't for two fumbles by Forte (who never fumbles), the game isn't close. Like I said before, I dread these games because I really like both teams (but more slanted towards Chicago). I really think if Chicago plays like they did last night on Sunday vs. DET, they win.

No way that was on Maclin...ball was high and hard and it was a great catch at all.This game is on the lines...we lost in the trenches. Vick was constantly harassed by a D-line disiplined enough to leave him no rushing lanes. Our O-line was able to blow an occasional hole open for McCoy, but got dominated in pass protection.

I do like Maclin (I've long said he's better than Jackson) but he just seems to never make that 'big' play you need him to. The last pass against ATL, the play here against CHI and the last one against SF (I think he was the last play of the SF game, but my memory is hazy). That just using this year an an example.

If Steve Smith isn't healthy, ok. But if he's healthy and they aren't using him when they need a 1st down it's a shame because he was clutch for the Giants.

This is an interesting comment to read today.

Interesting? Try infuriating. Guy dives two yards short of a first down. I didn't hear any comments from him, but I hope he said he thought he had the first down. Otherwise that was the softest play I've seen in a while. Stupidity I can understand. Not having it in you to put your head down for a first down I can't.

Probably trying to get cut so he can get picked up by the division leader.

 

[need2know]

so we still going to use this wide 9 crap? Guess so since they don't have the balls to axe castillo. What a mess

 

[unckeyherb]

In previous years, it seems like the Birds always get off to a slow start and start really turning it on in the second half of the season (last year they started slow and then ripped of 6 wins in 7 games, '09 they started off horrible and won 6 of the last 7, '07 and '08 were crap, '06 they won 6 of their last 8)..

In the spirit of being positive, I decided to shelve my vitriol for an hour or so and look at the current standings and the rest of the seasons match-ups. Assuming that Andy can do some late season magic or this team maybe has finally gotten a wake up call after last week, I don't know...something. then as insane as it sounds, I can see a very real possibility of NYG, Dallas and Philly all finishing at 9-7.

I can see NY losing their next 3 against us, NE, GB and week 16 at the Jets...9-7

I can see us losing week 12 against NE but winning the rest against NY, Seattle, Miami, Jets, Dallas and Wash...9-7

I can see Dallas winning against Wash, Miami, Ariz and TB and losing to NYG twice and us....9-7

Obviously this is overly optimistic, but not out of the realm of possibility. I still just have a hard time accepting that a team that is this talented can lose games the way they have. Reid's late season success has to count for something (even though I am fed up with him). I don't know. Just tired of being pissed off for the last couple of weeks. Thought I'd bring some optimism to the thread, however misguided. I'll go back to calling for Reid's head in a little bit.

Feel free to bash me to pieces now...

ETA: in this scenario we'd own the H2H tie breaker with Dallas and we'd have divisional record tie breaker with NYG. 5-1 vs 4-2.

 

[fred_1_15301]

In previous years, it seems like the Birds always get off to a slow start and start really turning it on in the second half of the season (last year they started slow and then ripped of 6 wins in 7 games, '09 they started off horrible and won 6 of the last 7, '07 and '08 were crap, '06 they won 6 of their last 8)..In the spirit of being positive, I decided to shelve my vitriol for an hour or so and look at the current standings and the rest of the seasons match-ups. Assuming that Andy can do some late season magic or this team maybe has finally gotten a wake up call after last week, I don't know...something. then as insane as it sounds, I can see a very real possibility of NYG, Dallas and Philly all finishing at 9-7.I can see NY losing their next 3 against us, NE, GB and week 16 at the Jets...9-7I can see us losing week 12 against NE but winning the rest against NY, Seattle, Miami, Jets, Dallas and Wash...9-7I can see Dallas winning against Wash, Miami, Ariz and TB and losing to NYG twice and us....9-7Obviously this is overly optimistic, but not out of the realm of possibility. I still just have a hard time accepting that a team that is this talented can lose games the way they have. Reid's late season success has to count for something (even though I am fed up with him). I don't know. Just tired of being pissed off for the last couple of weeks. Thought I'd bring some optimism to the thread, however misguided. I'll go back to calling for Reid's head in a little bit. Feel free to bash me to pieces now...ETA: in this scenario we'd own the H2H tie breaker with Dallas and we'd have divisional record tie breaker with NYG. 5-1 vs 4-2.

If your scenario plays out, any idea who wins the division?ETA...You just answered my question in your edit.

 

[need2know]

In previous years, it seems like the Birds always get off to a slow start and start really turning it on in the second half of the season (last year they started slow and then ripped of 6 wins in 7 games, '09 they started off horrible and won 6 of the last 7, '07 and '08 were crap, '06 they won 6 of their last 8)..In the spirit of being positive, I decided to shelve my vitriol for an hour or so and look at the current standings and the rest of the seasons match-ups. Assuming that Andy can do some late season magic or this team maybe has finally gotten a wake up call after last week, I don't know...something. then as insane as it sounds, I can see a very real possibility of NYG, Dallas and Philly all finishing at 9-7.I can see NY losing their next 3 against us, NE, GB and week 16 at the Jets...9-7I can see us losing week 12 against NE but winning the rest against NY, Seattle, Miami, Jets, Dallas and Wash...9-7I can see Dallas winning against Wash, Miami, Ariz and TB and losing to NYG twice and us....9-7Obviously this is overly optimistic, but not out of the realm of possibility. I still just have a hard time accepting that a team that is this talented can lose games the way they have. Reid's late season success has to count for something (even though I am fed up with him). I don't know. Just tired of being pissed off for the last couple of weeks. Thought I'd bring some optimism to the thread, however misguided. I'll go back to calling for Reid's head in a little bit. Feel free to bash me to pieces now...ETA: in this scenario we'd own the H2H tie breaker with Dallas and we'd have divisional record tie breaker with NYG. 5-1 vs 4-2.

Nice effort here but I think you just wasted your morning..

 

[unckeyherb]

In previous years, it seems like the Birds always get off to a slow start and start really turning it on in the second half of the season (last year they started slow and then ripped of 6 wins in 7 games, '09 they started off horrible and won 6 of the last 7, '07 and '08 were crap, '06 they won 6 of their last 8)..

In the spirit of being positive, I decided to shelve my vitriol for an hour or so and look at the current standings and the rest of the seasons match-ups. Assuming that Andy can do some late season magic or this team maybe has finally gotten a wake up call after last week, I don't know...something. then as insane as it sounds, I can see a very real possibility of NYG, Dallas and Philly all finishing at 9-7.

I can see NY losing their next 3 against us, NE, GB and week 16 at the Jets...9-7

I can see us losing week 12 against NE but winning the rest against NY, Seattle, Miami, Jets, Dallas and Wash...9-7

I can see Dallas winning against Wash, Miami, Ariz and TB and losing to NYG twice and us....9-7

Obviously this is overly optimistic, but not out of the realm of possibility. I still just have a hard time accepting that a team that is this talented can lose games the way they have. Reid's late season success has to count for something (even though I am fed up with him). I don't know. Just tired of being pissed off for the last couple of weeks. Thought I'd bring some optimism to the thread, however misguided. I'll go back to calling for Reid's head in a little bit.

Feel free to bash me to pieces now...

ETA: in this scenario we'd own the H2H tie breaker with Dallas and we'd have divisional record tie breaker with NYG. 5-1 vs 4-2.

Nice effort here but I think you just wasted your morning..

Well...it wasn't the whole morning. Meh, you're probably right, although I don't think any of what I proposed is that far fetched. Anything can happen in the NFC East... oh forget it. Lets go Flyers.

 

[fred_1_15301]

In previous years, it seems like the Birds always get off to a slow start and start really turning it on in the second half of the season (last year they started slow and then ripped of 6 wins in 7 games, '09 they started off horrible and won 6 of the last 7, '07 and '08 were crap, '06 they won 6 of their last 8)..

In the spirit of being positive, I decided to shelve my vitriol for an hour or so and look at the current standings and the rest of the seasons match-ups. Assuming that Andy can do some late season magic or this team maybe has finally gotten a wake up call after last week, I don't know...something. then as insane as it sounds, I can see a very real possibility of NYG, Dallas and Philly all finishing at 9-7.

I can see NY losing their next 3 against us, NE, GB and week 16 at the Jets...9-7

I can see us losing week 12 against NE but winning the rest against NY, Seattle, Miami, Jets, Dallas and Wash...9-7

I can see Dallas winning against Wash, Miami, Ariz and TB and losing to NYG twice and us....9-7

Obviously this is overly optimistic, but not out of the realm of possibility. I still just have a hard time accepting that a team that is this talented can lose games the way they have. Reid's late season success has to count for something (even though I am fed up with him). I don't know. Just tired of being pissed off for the last couple of weeks. Thought I'd bring some optimism to the thread, however misguided. I'll go back to calling for Reid's head in a little bit.

Feel free to bash me to pieces now...

ETA: in this scenario we'd own the H2H tie breaker with Dallas and we'd have divisional record tie breaker with NYG. 5-1 vs 4-2.

Nice effort here but I think you just wasted your morning..

Well...it wasn't the whole morning. Meh, you're probably right, although I don't think any of what I proposed is that far fetched. Anything can happen in the NFC East... oh forget it. Lets go Flyers.

Actually the most far fetched part of all of it is the Eagles winning 6 out of 7 games. I could easily see the Giants and Cowboys finishing no better than 9-7.

 

[unckeyherb]

Actually the most far fetched part of all of it is the Eagles winning 6 out of 7 games. I could easily see the Giants and Cowboys finishing no better than 9-7.

well aware of the bolded.

 

[jasvic]

Hey, after what happened in 2008 nothing would surprise me with this team. I just wouldn't place any money on it happening.

 

[Amused to Death]

Hey, after what happened in 2008 nothing would surprise me with this team. I just wouldn't place any money on it happening.

And ironically 2008 has been their best year (post-season success) since the Super Bowl loss. Consider if they didn't get the double-miracle in week 17 to even get in the playoffs, they would have 1 post-season win since '04.

 

[Insein]

They've brought me to apathy. I don't care about this team either way this year. I didn't watch the Eagles game at all yesterday except for when it showed up on redzone. It was a pathetic display. I was actually looking at the score and hoping for AZ to win so we can get the tie breaker for draft picks when the new coach comes in. I want a new coaching staff next year. That's it. I don't care who. Anyone with a fresh look would be a welcome change. They could turn out to be the next Kotite but it would be something I haven't seen for 13 years. When the fans can see plays before they are run and know results before they occur, then you'd have to guess a competant NFL coach could see the same and prepare for it. Its over. Reid is done. The death march of the last 7 games isn't going to prove anything. Hopefully Banner and Lurie see this and realize that Reid is not just bad for football, he's going to be bad for business if people just don't care anymore.

Could you imagine Cowher with this talent? He could easily draft the right linebackers, maybe even an OL. Hell, he could easily run a 3-4 with out DL. McCoy in his system ... awesome. Vick being asked to handoff and the occasional rollout ... genius. His blue collar aura would be revered in Philly.Such a great idea it makes too much sense and would never happen.

I honestly believe that Cowher has no interest in coaching right now. He seems content with his current gig and spending lots of time with his daughters.

Same. Gruden also. They've both won Super Bowls. If it was within a few years of retirement, I'd say they may still have the itch. However, they both have cushy, high paying jobs still involved in football that are a lot more fun than being a coach. I think they realize that life is good where they are at. I'd rather have a hungry, young coordinator that is looking to prove something (Jon Harbaugh, Mike Smith, Rex Ryan). Someone with their own philosophy and a desire to succeed instead of collecting a paycheck.

 

[CentralPA]

They've brought me to apathy. I don't care about this team either way this year. I didn't watch the Eagles game at all yesterday except for when it showed up on redzone. It was a pathetic display. I was actually looking at the score and hoping for AZ to win so we can get the tie breaker for draft picks when the new coach comes in. I want a new coaching staff next year. That's it. I don't care who. Anyone with a fresh look would be a welcome change. They could turn out to be the next Kotite but it would be something I haven't seen for 13 years. When the fans can see plays before they are run and know results before they occur, then you'd have to guess a competant NFL coach could see the same and prepare for it. Its over. Reid is done. The death march of the last 7 games isn't going to prove anything. Hopefully Banner and Lurie see this and realize that Reid is not just bad for football, he's going to be bad for business if people just don't care anymore.

Could you imagine Cowher with this talent? He could easily draft the right linebackers, maybe even an OL. Hell, he could easily run a 3-4 with out DL. McCoy in his system ... awesome. Vick being asked to handoff and the occasional rollout ... genius. His blue collar aura would be revered in Philly.Such a great idea it makes too much sense and would never happen.

I honestly believe that Cowher has no interest in coaching right now. He seems content with his current gig and spending lots of time with his daughters.

Same. Gruden also. They've both won Super Bowls. If it was within a few years of retirement, I'd say they may still have the itch. However, they both have cushy, high paying jobs still involved in football that are a lot more fun than being a coach. I think they realize that life is good where they are at. I'd rather have a hungry, young coordinator that is looking to prove something (Jon Harbaugh, Mike Smith, Rex Ryan). Someone with their own philosophy and a desire to succeed instead of collecting a paycheck.

That's probably who they would get. I really hope this is it for Reid. Sick and tired of common fundamentals being thrown out of the way for his ego.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Bring in Mike Zimmer.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Who is taking the reps at QB in practice? VY is really the #2 QB??

 

[dhockster]

I read in the comments section of PFT that Kolb was calling out the Eagles offensive plays to the defense on every play. Has this been confirmed

and/or talked about in Philly? Callahan was ripped when Gruden knew what he was running in the super bowl, Andy should definitely be ripped

for not changing anything for this game against Kolb, if this is true.

 

[unckeyherb]

I read in the comments section of PFT that Kolb was calling out the Eagles offensive plays to the defense on every play. Has this been confirmedand/or talked about in Philly? Callahan was ripped when Gruden knew what he was running in the super bowl, Andy should definitely be rippedfor not changing anything for this game against Kolb, if this is true.

Kolb called into the Gargano and Macnow show yesterday and was talking about it at length. He basically said exactly what you described-he was calling in the offense as they were lining up to the defensive coordinator. He said he was surprised that they were using the same offense against a team whose QB ran that offense as recently as last year. nice.

 

[Insein]

I read in the comments section of PFT that Kolb was calling out the Eagles offensive plays to the defense on every play. Has this been confirmedand/or talked about in Philly? Callahan was ripped when Gruden knew what he was running in the super bowl, Andy should definitely be rippedfor not changing anything for this game against Kolb, if this is true.

Kolb called into the Gargano and Macnow show yesterday and was talking about it at length. He basically said exactly what you described-he was calling in the offense as they were lining up to the defensive coordinator. He said he was surprised that they were using the same offense against a team whose QB ran that offense as recently as last year. nice.

Sigh. Goes back to the "I'm smarter than everybody" syndrome Andy seems to suffer from. Andy: "Everyone will expect me to run something completely different with Kolb on the other team. So I'll run our normal offense and outsmart them. I'm a ####### GENIUS!"

 

[Sabertooth]

This team is a real question mark on defense. You have some very talented defensive coordinators like Dom Capers drawing up the plays in Green Bay. They've got established players at every position (not only established but experiences with one another). The Achilles heal may be that for all the historic firepower on offense, they won't be able to stop teams down the middle of the field.A team weak up the middle is going nowhere. This is a finesse team. They may be susceptible a battering ram like Blount or Grant. You can only scheme so much. And Philly has an untested DC. They are really banking on him being a top guy here. Let's face it. Teams are going to continually try to eat the clock up. I don't care if you've got Nighttrain Lane and Charles Woodson at the corners, if you can't stop dive right and blast left, you are not going far.

You seem to have a very big infatuation with this team. Yes we get it, the Packers are the team to beat. Their defense is better. Blah blah blah, this was one preseason game for the Eagles, one where the defense looked very shoddy. I do agree there is legitnament concern with the LBs but it isn't unfixable. It's a team that is in transition with new coaches and a new defensive coordinator but a ton of talent. The right personnel is here for them to be a great defense, they just need to gel.

I've posted 9 times in this thread compared to 48 by you. I'm just generating some valid conversation. I don't necessarily agree that the talent is there for them to be great. The linebackers and safeties look to be a weakness. Lot's of sizzle here, but is there enough steak?

I've posted 48 times on this thread because I am an Eagles fan. I apologize for taking your post as a stab/trollish post just think that things are being blown way out of proportion after 2 preseason games. They aren't the "Dream Team" but they are going to be pretty good as well. I just wish Vince Young could've shut his trap.The run defense sucked last night, but it can be fixed and the coaching the Eagles have is some of the best in the league. The run defense should and will be better.

I'm not sure that you can say the coaching is some of the best in the league when you've got a rookie DC. They are a good organization top to bottom, but the DC is completely untested in that capacity. I'm rooting for him though. Seems like a great guy.

Looks like I hit pretty close to the mark on this one. Hopefully I can use this to offset how foolish my Adrian Peterson thread was. This team needs to bring in a guy like Rob Ryan, Dom Capers, or Greg Williams. They need a real guy DC.

 

[JAA]

They've brought me to apathy. I don't care about this team either way this year. I didn't watch the Eagles game at all yesterday except for when it showed up on redzone. It was a pathetic display. I was actually looking at the score and hoping for AZ to win so we can get the tie breaker for draft picks when the new coach comes in. I want a new coaching staff next year. That's it. I don't care who. Anyone with a fresh look would be a welcome change. They could turn out to be the next Kotite but it would be something I haven't seen for 13 years. When the fans can see plays before they are run and know results before they occur, then you'd have to guess a competant NFL coach could see the same and prepare for it. Its over. Reid is done. The death march of the last 7 games isn't going to prove anything. Hopefully Banner and Lurie see this and realize that Reid is not just bad for football, he's going to be bad for business if people just don't care anymore.

Could you imagine Cowher with this talent? He could easily draft the right linebackers, maybe even an OL. Hell, he could easily run a 3-4 with out DL. McCoy in his system ... awesome. Vick being asked to handoff and the occasional rollout ... genius. His blue collar aura would be revered in Philly.Such a great idea it makes too much sense and would never happen.

I honestly believe that Cowher has no interest in coaching right now. He seems content with his current gig and spending lots of time with his daughters.

Same. Gruden also. They've both won Super Bowls. If it was within a few years of retirement, I'd say they may still have the itch. However, they both have cushy, high paying jobs still involved in football that are a lot more fun than being a coach. I think they realize that life is good where they are at. I'd rather have a hungry, young coordinator that is looking to prove something (Jon Harbaugh, Mike Smith, Rex Ryan). Someone with their own philosophy and a desire to succeed instead of collecting a paycheck.

Hadnt thought of Rob Ryan ... BRING BACK THE BUDDY YEARS!!

 

[Shane Falco]

Bring in Mike Zimmer Rob Ryan.

fixedand by you of all people

 

[netnalp]

Nick Saban get another shot at the NFL?

 

[Insein]

I know this town would love Rob Ryan the first couple of years. But if he didn't win, he'd be gone by year 3. Besides, that isn't Lurie's style. He would like another quiet, unassuming coordinator or position coach to take over and have a methodical approach to the game.

 

[JAA]

Are we going to see a dominating performance tonight giving us yet more false hope?

 

[Amused to Death]

Are we going to see a dominating performance tonight giving us yet more false hope?

E-A-G-LEh, who cares at this point. I want them to win, but at this point I've lost interest in NFL football. I watch for my fantasy teams.

 

[eoMMan]

Rob Chubzinski.