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OMG he's going to let Vince Young throw the ball 50 times when we have McCoy in the backfield. What a ####### #######.
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loose circuits
Footballguy
depends on the price...wouldn't give him Santonio Holmes type money'renesauz said:
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Odds vick is back next week?
SouthJersey
Footballguy
Seems like VY has all day in the pocket...can't really tell on tv if our WRs are never getting open...or he's just that horrible.
Judging by his throw...he's just horrible.
Judging by his throw...he's just horrible.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Shocking, really.
renesauz
IBL Representative
36 to 28 now, very late in game....and the running game hasn't been very effective at that!
phillybirds
Footballguy
Only 10 more in a row and we win the SuperBowl 
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Something I just don't understand. Why is it that Reid ALWAYS goes to a more balanced, conservative offense with his backups? Seriously, Sunday night McCoy looked about as pedestrian a RB as he ever has, yet they consistently called runs through four quarters of football. You put a healthy Vick in there, with the offensive game-plan they rolled out and that game isn't close.
Reid effing did this with Garcia, he effing did this with Feely and now he is effing doing it with Vince Young...and they all were winners for their efforts!!! As soon as Donovan was back in...65-35 Pass to Run. I already know what is going to happen with the Pats if Vick is in..abandon the run after 8-9 carries and during the losing game presser he'll acknowledge that 'they wanted to get the run going, it just wasn't working so they got away from it.'
Andy being Andy I guess...
On a more positive note, this is the defense that I was expecting to see from the get-go. Coincidence that there was no DRC on the field?
Reid effing did this with Garcia, he effing did this with Feely and now he is effing doing it with Vince Young...and they all were winners for their efforts!!! As soon as Donovan was back in...65-35 Pass to Run. I already know what is going to happen with the Pats if Vick is in..abandon the run after 8-9 carries and during the losing game presser he'll acknowledge that 'they wanted to get the run going, it just wasn't working so they got away from it.'
Andy being Andy I guess...
On a more positive note, this is the defense that I was expecting to see from the get-go. Coincidence that there was no DRC on the field?
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Insein
Footballguy
Even with Kolb's injuries and struggles, AZ fleeced us on that one.Something I just don't understand. Why is it that Reid ALWAYS goes to a more balanced, conservative offense with his backups? Seriously, Sunday night McCoy looked about as pedestrian a RB as he ever has, yet they consistently called runs through four quarters of football. You put a healthy Vick in there, with the offensive game-plan they rolled out and that game isn't close.Reid effing did this with Garcia, he effing did this with Feely and now he is effing doing it with Vince Young...and they all were winners for their efforts!!! As soon as Donovan was back in...65-35 Pass to Run. I already know what is going to happen with the Pats if Vick is in..abandon the run after 8-9 carries and during the losing game presser he'll acknowledge that 'they wanted to get the run going, it just wasn't working so they got away from it.' Andy being Andy I guess...On a more positive note, this is the defense that I was expecting to see from the get-go. Coincidence that there was no DRC on the field?
dhockster
Footballguy
Uh, the Eagles still have AZ's 2nd round pick next year, so it is a bit premature to say we got fleeced. I also think there is a chance, based on salary cap numbers, that the Eagles cut Asante next year, and move DRC over to the other corner. He will probably play betterthere since he does not like the slot.Even with Kolb's injuries and struggles, AZ fleeced us on that one.Something I just don't understand. Why is it that Reid ALWAYS goes to a more balanced, conservative offense with his backups? Seriously, Sunday night McCoy looked about as pedestrian a RB as he ever has, yet they consistently called runs through four quarters of football. You put a healthy Vick in there, with the offensive game-plan they rolled out and that game isn't close.Reid effing did this with Garcia, he effing did this with Feely and now he is effing doing it with Vince Young...and they all were winners for their efforts!!! As soon as Donovan was back in...65-35 Pass to Run. I already know what is going to happen with the Pats if Vick is in..abandon the run after 8-9 carries and during the losing game presser he'll acknowledge that 'they wanted to get the run going, it just wasn't working so they got away from it.' Andy being Andy I guess...On a more positive note, this is the defense that I was expecting to see from the get-go. Coincidence that there was no DRC on the field?
dhockster
Footballguy
I have never bought into the VY hype, and living in Houston, there is a lot of it down here. I will say, however, as the game progressed on Sunday,
I felt very comfortable with him as our QB. He looked comfortable and he looked like he knew the game plan. I am not sure I always feel like that
with Vick. Not trying to say VY is better than Vick, it just seemed he had more natural pocket presence. Thoughts?
I felt very comfortable with him as our QB. He looked comfortable and he looked like he knew the game plan. I am not sure I always feel like that
with Vick. Not trying to say VY is better than Vick, it just seemed he had more natural pocket presence. Thoughts?
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
Depends on what you want. Do you want someone who will put it all out there in order to make every play a success. Or do you want someone who will throw the ball away when the plays not there.
Vick and Iverson are really the same guy, it's unbelievable.
Vick and Iverson are really the same guy, it's unbelievable.
Insein
Footballguy
I was kind of being facetious but DRC was fairly overrated to begin with. Plus if Andy is making that 2nd round pick next year, do you have any faith he will be a player or will he be another square peg for a round hole?Uh, the Eagles still have AZ's 2nd round pick next year, so it is a bit premature to say we got fleeced. I also think there is a chance, based on salary cap numbers, that the Eagles cut Asante next year, and move DRC over to the other corner. He will probably play betterthere since he does not like the slot.Even with Kolb's injuries and struggles, AZ fleeced us on that one.Something I just don't understand. Why is it that Reid ALWAYS goes to a more balanced, conservative offense with his backups? Seriously, Sunday night McCoy looked about as pedestrian a RB as he ever has, yet they consistently called runs through four quarters of football. You put a healthy Vick in there, with the offensive game-plan they rolled out and that game isn't close.Reid effing did this with Garcia, he effing did this with Feely and now he is effing doing it with Vince Young...and they all were winners for their efforts!!! As soon as Donovan was back in...65-35 Pass to Run. I already know what is going to happen with the Pats if Vick is in..abandon the run after 8-9 carries and during the losing game presser he'll acknowledge that 'they wanted to get the run going, it just wasn't working so they got away from it.' Andy being Andy I guess...On a more positive note, this is the defense that I was expecting to see from the get-go. Coincidence that there was no DRC on the field?
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
So Vick was supposed to try to throw today. Any news on that?
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Heard Sal Pal on the way home tonight...probably won't know anything until tomorrow afternoon. As he put it, the team was in lock-down today (no media access).
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Man with all the thanksgiving games this really sucks.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Have faith everyone, Andy's going to fix this. He said so.
Year 14 will be the one, right Andy?
Year 14 will be the one, right Andy?
Amused to Death
Footballguy
The Eagles, Temple & Real Madrid all have same number of wins at the Linc over the Eagles last 9 home games
ETA: sorry, Temple has 5.
ETA: sorry, Temple has 5.
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Amused to Death
Footballguy
During the post game show on CSN, Derrick Gunn reported Jim Washburn and Marty were in a "heated discussion" nose-to-nose for about a minute or so and had to be separated.
Cracks beginning to show.
Cracks beginning to show.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Maybe it had something to do with the whole 10 carries Shady got. I am so done with this coaching staff. I can barely watch this team anymore.During the post game show on CSN, Derrick Gunn reported Jim Washburn and Marty were in a "heated discussion" nose-to-nose for about a minute or so and had to be separated.Cracks beginning to show.
Bankerguy
Footballguy
As much as I would like to see coaching change at the end of the year, I still think it's kind of disgraceful to have "Fire Andy" chants during the game. The man has done great things for this franchise, even though he wont be winning coach of the year this year. I will miss the fat man when he's gone.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
I'm sure I speak for most Eagle fans when I say I'll miss him in the same vein I missed McNabb. I appreciate both of them but much like McNabb then I am just sick of Reid now. I haven't been to a game this season but I have had the same chant in my living room.
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
My buddy tells me that pretty much everyone sees the end coming. Sucks for him because he just bought a new house last year. Good thing for him that Reid likes him and he'd probably have a job where ever Andy goes. That being said, the decision might not be Reid's since my friend doesn't report directly to him, but to Roseman.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
It's just time for a change. No way after saying we're "all in" and losing games and control of players can he come back. JMO anyway.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Looking at this team right now, who are the core players (offense and defense)? In the past we had Donovan & Westbrook, Dawk, Lito, Akers...even guys like Tra Thomas and Runyun. Who are those guys right now? Who's coming back next year that we can rely on? Vick, McCoy and ??
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
We have more than enough good players. Babin, Cole, Jenkins, Nnamdi, Peters, Herremans, Vick, McCoy, Maclin.Our problems have been 1) mistakes, 2) not closing, 3) starting some really bad players like Page and Matthews.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Trent Cole for sure. But I'm pretty sure Babin & Jenkins are on 1-year deals. Is Nnamdi really a 'core' player? Has he done much this year to make you say "boy we need that guy back".And yes we have a lot of talent, but who are the 'core'? Who are the players this team is built around?
delusional
Footballguy
Be 3 years too late when he gets fired
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Babin signed a big deal and Jenkins is on a 1-year deal. I'd like to think Nnamdi will be a core guy if we have someone here that can use his strengths.Our core on offense would be Vick, McCoy and Maclin.On defense I would say Cole, Babin and Nnamdi...maybe Samual depending on what happens with him.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
He told Young to hand it off. You looked at him and said "go get your ####### shine box."
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I very much hope that the Packers go back after Cullen. He's the missing piece of their defense right now.
phillybirds
Footballguy
I looked at Rotoworld and looks like Babin & Jenkins have 5 year deals. Nnamdi has a 5 year deal too, I think. And Cole is signed up for a couple of more years. So we do have players we can build around. We just need to get someone in here that knows how to evaluate defensive talent and run a defense. On offense we're stuck with injury prone Vick and his inconsistencies. A top RB that a new coach could actually plan his game around.
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thriftyrocker
Footballguy
Jenkins and Babin both got 5 year deals with only 1 yr guaranteed. They are set to make good coin next year so could get cut, but both have played well enough. I am more confident on Babin being back than Jenkins. If they really clean house (all coaches fired), all bets are off.The team is built around QB, OL, DL, and CB. Always has been. There is talent at those positions.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Jenkins isn't making much next year. This year he had a 1M base and 3M roster bonus. In 2012 and 2013 he has a 4M base, 2014 4.5M base and 2015 and 8.5M base. http://www.eaglescap.com/current.html
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Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Is there some kind of roster bonus or something that Jenkins gets? I thought when we got him all of (or a lot of the talk) was that his deal was basically a one year deal...
Either way, I hope they keep him.
Either way, I hope they keep him.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
That was my impression as well. In fact I thought most of the FA's they brought in this offseason were basically one year deals. That's why I didn't include them in my "core" list. Another vote though to keep Jenkins!
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
It's a 5 mil roster bonus. It makes his total compensation 7.75 mil for next year. Which is a whole heckuva lot but not exorbitant. It is top 10 DT money, but not elite DT money (Ngata gets $12 mil a year). The Eagles gave themselves a lot of outs because of injury risk. If Jenkins is healthy and effective, I think they keep paying him.
ETA: http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/2999/cullen-jenkins
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Snotbubbles
Footballguy
According to Eaglescap:2011: Base 1M, Bonus 3M2012: Base 4M2013: Base 4M2014: Base 4.5M2015: Base 8.5M
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
I can't see this regime keeping him at that cost and that regime is Banner and Roseman...
delusional
Footballguy
^ Roseman can leave too.
Fokou done for the year., getting promoted from the practice squad is none other then.....GREG LLOYD.....junior. Basically a 3-4 LB with bad knees. 7th rounder so he seems perfect for the eagles D.
Fokou done for the year., getting promoted from the practice squad is none other then.....GREG LLOYD.....junior. Basically a 3-4 LB with bad knees. 7th rounder so he seems perfect for the eagles D.
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Insein
Footballguy
Banner is going to stay cause he's the money man but I would like to see roseman go too. His drafts have been pretty awful. Have we gotten any starters out of the bunch? Not just guys who are starting because of circumstance, guys who are viable nfl starting calibur players? Here's his 2 years as GM.
Other than Alex Henery, who's a kicker, who on this list screams NFL Starter?
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