***Official 2011 Philadelphia Eagles Thread*** (2 Viewers)

[Bigboy10182000]

Mike Lombardo on Sal Pal's show just said that Nnamdi Ashomugha is not a fit for the type of coverage that the Eagles are currently running because he is a press coverage CB and Samuel isn't and that Ashomugha wouldn't be a good fit opposite Samuel. He also threw out some names that might interest the Eagles: Jets D Coordinator Mike Pettine, someone from the Ravens (I think Chuck Pagano I can't remember) and someone who coached at Army who all have experience in running a 4-3/3-4 hybrid.

Now how would he already not be a fit when we don't even have a DC yet?

 

[Snotbubbles]

Mike Lombardo on Sal Pal's show just said that Nnamdi Ashomugha is not a fit for the type of coverage that the Eagles are currently running because he is a press coverage CB and Samuel isn't and that Ashomugha wouldn't be a good fit opposite Samuel. He also threw out some names that might interest the Eagles: Jets D Coordinator Mike Pettine, someone from the Ravens (I think Chuck Pagano I can't remember) and someone who coached at Army who all have experience in running a 4-3/3-4 hybrid.

Now how would he already not be a fit when we don't even have a DC yet?

He said the styles of Ashomugha and Samuel are different. Ashomugha is good in press coverage and Samuel is good at playing off the recievers and reading the QB. He believes that you cannot run a press coverage on one side and not on the other. Thus, Samuel's style conflicts with Ashomugha. The guy was a scout or GM or something with the Raiders so he is very familiar with Ashomugha.

 

[Amused to Death]

Mike Lombardo on Sal Pal's show just said that Nnamdi Ashomugha is not a fit for the type of coverage that the Eagles are currently running because he is a press coverage CB and Samuel isn't and that Ashomugha wouldn't be a good fit opposite Samuel. He also threw out some names that might interest the Eagles: Jets D Coordinator Mike Pettine, someone from the Ravens (I think Chuck Pagano I can't remember) and someone who coached at Army who all have experience in running a 4-3/3-4 hybrid.

Now how would he already not be a fit when we don't even have a DC yet?

He said the styles of Ashomugha and Samuel are different. Ashomugha is good in press coverage and Samuel is good at playing off the recievers and reading the QB. He believes that you cannot run a press coverage on one side and not on the other. Thus, Samuel's style conflicts with Ashomugha. The guy was a scout or GM or something with the Raiders so he is very familiar with Ashomugha.

Sounds like Lombardo is being used to soften the blow to the fans when the Eagles don't make a serious effort to sign Ashomugha. Saying he doesn't fit the system seems weak when you're talking about one of the best at the position. What system doesn't he fit...the one where you allow the most TD passes in league history?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Mike Lombardo on Sal Pal's show just said that Nnamdi Ashomugha is not a fit for the type of coverage that the Eagles are currently running because he is a press coverage CB and Samuel isn't and that Ashomugha wouldn't be a good fit opposite Samuel. He also threw out some names that might interest the Eagles: Jets D Coordinator Mike Pettine, someone from the Ravens (I think Chuck Pagano I can't remember) and someone who coached at Army who all have experience in running a 4-3/3-4 hybrid.

Now how would he already not be a fit when we don't even have a DC yet?

He said the styles of Ashomugha and Samuel are different. Ashomugha is good in press coverage and Samuel is good at playing off the recievers and reading the QB. He believes that you cannot run a press coverage on one side and not on the other. Thus, Samuel's style conflicts with Ashomugha. The guy was a scout or GM or something with the Raiders so he is very familiar with Ashomugha.

It was the bold that made me question what was said. The current system would apply that we had one and that's what threw me.

Either way I agree with Amused, he has to be better then anything else out there. There are other CB's I wouldn't mind though on the market.

 

[jasvic]

Philly papers have an interesting theory that Eagles are waiting for Green Bay so they can go after Mike Trgovac. He's had a lot of success as d-line coach (including a stint in Philly) and as a DC. I'm liking this option best, if it's an actual possibility.

Did they make any mention of a 3-4 coming with that? Just curious.

Link to article.Pertinent info:

The Birds seem in no hurry to conclude their search, with head coach Andy Reid away on vacation this week. One possibility there is that Reid wants to talk to a position coach from one of the four teams still involved in the playoffs; those assistants can't interview now until their teams are eliminated. One name that comes easily to mind is that of Mike Trgovac, the Packers' defensive line coach, who used to be the Panthers' defensive coordinator. Trgovac was the Eagles' d-line coach under Ray Rhodes.

Just speculation on the writer's part. Didn't Carolina run a 4-3 while he was there? I would assume he's a 4-3 guy.

 

[CentralPA]

Philly papers have an interesting theory that Eagles are waiting for Green Bay so they can go after Mike Trgovac. He's had a lot of success as d-line coach (including a stint in Philly) and as a DC. I'm liking this option best, if it's an actual possibility.

Did they make any mention of a 3-4 coming with that? Just curious.

Link to article.Pertinent info:

The Birds seem in no hurry to conclude their search, with head coach Andy Reid away on vacation this week. One possibility there is that Reid wants to talk to a position coach from one of the four teams still involved in the playoffs; those assistants can't interview now until their teams are eliminated. One name that comes easily to mind is that of Mike Trgovac, the Packers' defensive line coach, who used to be the Panthers' defensive coordinator. Trgovac was the Eagles' d-line coach under Ray Rhodes.

Just speculation on the writer's part. Didn't Carolina run a 4-3 while he was there? I would assume he's a 4-3 guy.

I wouldn't mind a 3-4 defensive scheme but we currently do not have the line to pull something like that off. We need a space eater in the middle and I don't think Mike Patterson or Brodrick Bunkley would be ideal. Brandon Graham may make for a great 3-4 linebacker.

 

[jasvic]

I personally prefer the 4-3, but these undersized tweener DEs they are so in love with just don't cut it. They lucked out with Cole and have been looking for a clone of him since, and seem to fail each time. Plus they lack enough quality LBs for the 3-4. Hoping a new DC with new philosophy will help, and since Trgovac has been a successful line coach and DC, I'm loving that thought.

 

[scratcher]

Read about Trgovac elsewhere as well. Seems like the best of the choices. Previous success as DC and works with the great Dline in GB. We def need some better coaching to utilize the talent on the DL.

 

[Gold Standard]

Read about Trgovac elsewhere as well. Seems like the best of the choices. Previous success as DC and works with the great Dline in GB. We def need some better coaching to utilize the talent on the DL.

What talent on the DL? As long as they keep drafting these small, quick Dlineman instead of flat out maulers, then it doesn't matter who the D Coordinator is. They need a whole sale change on how they approach defense, relying on the blitz to get to the QB is all well and good when you have Lito and Sheldon in their prime, but if the D line cant get it done with this squad, it's pointless. Giving up 377 points for a #3 seed is a joke.

 

[jasvic]

Another speculation article.

With Jim Mora all but signed in Denver -- although you have to wonder what's taking so long -- and with **** Jauron reportedly in Cleveland interviewing with the Browns, the pool of available defensive coordinators for the Eagles to snatch up seems to be dwindling.

But one hot name keeps resurfacing, at least among reporters and fans: Mike Trgovac.

The Packers defensive line coach hasn't been mentioned as one of the Eagles' top candidates partly because they wouldn't be able to interview him at the earliest until Monday. If Green Bay beats Chicago in the NFC Championship, the Eagles would have to wait until after the Super Bowl to talk with Trgovac about their defensive coordinator opening.

If he is indeed their top choice then the Eagles-reading Nation is in store for a lot of filler stories about the search until Andy Reid and company can interview the former Carolina defensive coordinator.

A league source with knowledge of the Eagles' thinking said that the team would likely see how things play out with their top three options -- Mora, Jauron and former Cardinals defensive coordinator Billy Davis -- before considering Trgovac.

The 51-year-old, on the surface, would appear to be a fit in Philadelphia. For one, he coached here before as the defensive line coach from 1995-98 under head coach Ray Rhodes. So owner Jeffrey Lurie and president Joe Banner are familiar with Trgovac.

He's also had success before as a coordinator. During his six-year stint in Carolina, the Panthers reached the playoffs three times and the Super Bowl once. Trgovac's game plan had a lot to do with Carolina stuffing the Eagles in a 2003 NFC championship victory. The Panthers went on to lose to the Patriots in the Super Bowl.

Trgovac also favors a 4-3 scheme, one that Reid is said to want to keep after he fired Sean McDermott last week.

There are a number of other coaches with defensive backgrounds still unemployed. Former Bears and Dolphins head coach Dave Wannstedt is among them. He is expected to also speak with the Browns about their opening.

But one thing is for sure: The choice isn't likely to be made any time soon. Reid is currently vacationing in the Carribean (we think). A team spokesman could not confirm where the head coach had gone for his break. He isn't expected back until the end of the week.

Stay tuned.

 

[ReggieHammond]

Joe Whitt Jnr, the Packers Defensive Backs coach, seems like a good DC prospect as well

Cornerbacks coach has made an impressionBy Bob McGinn of the Journal Sentinel Jan. 7, 2011 Green Bay — Charles Woodson made the Pro Bowl, Tramon Williams elevated his game to Pro Bowl level and Sam Shields probably was the biggest surprise on the Green Bay Packers' roster this season.The common denominator is Joe Whitt Jr., the second-year cornerbacks coach who might well be ascending the National Football League coaching ladder sooner than later.Certainly Whitt's stellar work with this group of players won't be going unnoticed by those seeking successful young coaches."Trust me," Williams said this week. "The guy knows his stuff. He will be a coordinator or a something one day. I don't know exactly when it's going to be, but I think he's definitely going to have one of those upper spots."At 32, Whitt was the third-youngest secondary coach in the NFL this season. On Mike McCarthy's staff, he's the youngest position coach by a year over Ben McAdoo (tight ends).When Whitt joined the Packers in 2008 as defensive quality control coach, his goal was to become head coach at his alma mater, Auburn. Now Whitt says he's ready for the step up to NFL defensive coordinator en route to what he hopes one day is an NFL head-coaching job."Emmitt Thomas always told me, 'Hey, you can be a head coach in this league,' " said Whitt, who worked side-by-side with the former Packers defensive coordinator as assistant secondary coach for Atlanta in 2007. "I just know I want to run my own team."Whitt's background is similar to that of Mike Tomlin and Raheem Morris, the head coaches at Pittsburgh and Tampa Bay who were hired by their teams at ages 34 and 32, respectively.Whitt lettered twice as a walk-on wide receiver at Auburn before a series of five operations ended his career. Tomlin played wide receiver at William & Mary and Morris was a safety at Hofstra but didn't play in the NFL, either.Both Tomlin and Morris coached defensive backs in the NFL before becoming head coaches. When the Vikings hired Tomlin as defensive coordinator in 2006, he was 33.For now, Whitt is the coach seated in the press box just to the right of Dom Capers, often with his chin resting in his hands as he scrutinizes plays. On Sunday in Philadelphia, Whitt will seek redemption for what he calls an "embarrassment" for the secondary in the playoff loss last January in Arizona."When I start to see a lack of focus in my group, I play that tape for them," said Whitt. "The room gets quiet. That's not how we play."We're going to play well. We've got to make sure we take care of vertical control first. It's a huge thing."Whitt's father, Joe Sr., became the first African-American assistant at Auburn when he joined Pat Dye's staff in 1981. After 25 years coaching linebackers and the defensive line in addition to serving as assistant head coach, Whitt Sr. moved into the Tigers' athletic administration.The son remembers well grading film with his dad at 8. Whitt, who has no hobbies, says he was born to be a coach. If Whitt isn't with his wife and two children, he's having a blast watching tape of other NFL teams with notebook at hand.Earnest and ambitious, Whitt proved to be no shrinking violet after assuming the main cornerback post from longtime player Lionel Washington. McCarthy hired Whitt based on Thomas' recommendation and had no doubts he was ready for promotion in '09."He's not shy," said Williams. "Even though you got guys like Charles Woodson and Al Harris, you think, 'What can he tell those guys?' But he didn't see it that way. He feels you can coach up a player, and that's what he did." Whitt acknowledged that at first Woodson didn't believe in him. According to Whitt, their relationship changed for good after the Week 8 upset loss against the Buccaneers last season. "I treat Charles almost like a coach," Whitt said. "There's a great understanding in our room that everybody is held to a high standard and 'Wood' is treated differently than everybody else. Because he is different. But the way I treat him does not compromise what we're trying to do."Whitt smiled when assessing his father's coaching style as "very loud." Yelling isn't a part of Whitt's modus operandi, but he's far more confrontational than Washington or former safeties coach Kurt Schottenheimer ever was."I'm very demanding of them, and at one point they had issues with it," said Whitt. "But Dom's defense is supposed to look a certain way, and if it doesn't, I don't live in excuses."Asked to describe his professional manner, Whitt without hesitation said, "Blunt. Very blunt. There's no gray area."A few years ago, Tomlin told Whitt about the value of shadowing high school teachers and incorporating their methods into pro football. So for the last three winters, whenever the staff was given a week off, Whitt returned to Auburn High School and observed teachers at every level.When the Packers signed Shields as a free agent, Whitt was asked to develop a player not only with just one year's experience at cornerback but learning issues as well."I'm learning disabled," said Whitt. "I'm dyslexic. Growing up, I had to learn things differently. With some of my issues, I could relate to Sam. I taught him a little bit different, and it worked."Shields was never very far from Whitt's purview in spring and summer. The soft-spoken Shields said Whitt never went too far, but the coach knew different."Sam used to hate me, I believe, because I used to stay on him," said Whitt. "I didn't want what happened to some first-round draft choices who had their confidence shot. So I made it so hard in practice that the regular season would be easy. Now I don't get on him as much because he understands what I'm talking about."As for Williams, let's just say every coach would like tutoring him."My approach with Tramon is very mild because he's such a professional," said Whitt. "Other guys say, 'You never get on Tramon.' I tell them, 'If you did it that way, I wouldn't get on you, either.' "Whitt doesn't concern himself with his players' injuries, fines or choice of cleats. His in-your-face style might not pass the test in every walk of life, but Whitt is convinced it's the only way to go in the NFL."Because I never lie," he said. "They don't necessarily have to agree with you, but they know that you're going to be honest with them."When I'm wrong, I tell them I'm wrong. And I do it in front of everybody."

 

[Bushead]

thoughts on Jim Washburn? Don't know much about him, resume looks good though

 

[CentralPA]

thoughts on Jim Washburn? Don't know much about him, resume looks good though

Thoughts on him being the defensive line coach? Can't say I have any thoughts about one way or another. I hope he doesn't favor smallish speedy DTs.

 

[JetMaxx]

thoughts on Jim Washburn? Don't know much about him, resume looks good though

Thoughts on him being the defensive line coach? Can't say I have any thoughts about one way or another. I hope he doesn't favor smallish speedy DTs.

Possibly the best DL coach in the biz. Major coup if they stole him from TENN.

 

[Bushead]

thoughts on Jim Washburn? Don't know much about him, resume looks good though

Thoughts on him being the defensive line coach? Can't say I have any thoughts about one way or another. I hope he doesn't favor smallish speedy DTs.

yes, thoughts as a DL coach. I guess might be better question to pose to Tenn fans.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Check out this thread someone created:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=581725

 

[Snotbubbles]

thoughts on Jim Washburn? Don't know much about him, resume looks good though

Thoughts on him being the defensive line coach? Can't say I have any thoughts about one way or another. I hope he doesn't favor smallish speedy DTs.

Possibly the best DL coach in the biz. Major coup if they stole him from TENN.

Brian Baldinger has been talking about him all morning. He said TEN would be crazy to let this guy go. He also said he is probably the one guy who could get Albert Haynesworth to play to form. Just look at some of the guys he's coached that had good years, Haynesworth, Kearse, Vandenbosch and this year Babin.

 

[scratcher]

Done deal per Eagles website. This is awesome, I was hoping they'd grab him but did not think it would happen. We've needed this for a while now. Lots of talent on the DL with Segrest trying to ruin it.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Done deal per Eagles website. This is awesome, I was hoping they'd grab him but did not think it would happen. We've needed this for a while now. Lots of talent on the DL with Segrest trying to ruin it.

I know it could be premature but I'm sure this question wouldn't be far behind. Do we take a shot at Haynesworth when/ if we get the chance? I'm sure the cost wouldn't be much and he would be a need.

 

[dhockster]

Done deal per Eagles website. This is awesome, I was hoping they'd grab him but did not think it would happen. We've needed this for a while now. Lots of talent on the DL with Segrest trying to ruin it.

I know it could be premature but I'm sure this question wouldn't be far behind. Do we take a shot at Haynesworth when/ if we get the chance? I'm sure the cost wouldn't be much and he would be a need.

I was thinking the exact same thing. Yes he is a problem child, but if he was in the right mindset due to being under his old line coach, he would likely help the Eagles defense tremendously. Can you imagine how up he would get to play the Redskins?

 

[scratcher]

Done deal per Eagles website. This is awesome, I was hoping they'd grab him but did not think it would happen. We've needed this for a while now. Lots of talent on the DL with Segrest trying to ruin it.

I know it could be premature but I'm sure this question wouldn't be far behind. Do we take a shot at Haynesworth when/ if we get the chance? I'm sure the cost wouldn't be much and he would be a need.

@AlbertBreer: If Washburn lands with #Eagles, Haynesworth gets whacked by Skins, look for Eagles to become an immediate suitor for him.

 

[scratcher]

Another twitter:

@jwyattsports: Jason Babin on Washburn: "It stinks that he’s leaving. He’s the greatest position coach I’ve ever had." #Eagles

 

[scratcher]

Another one:

@Jay_Glazer news on the eagles dc?>Asked permission and granted it for saints db coach dennis allen. Scoopage for ya

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Another one:

@Jay_Glazer news on the eagles dc?>Asked permission and granted it for saints db coach dennis allen. Scoopage for ya

Not sure how I feel about that one...

 

[ReggieHammond]

Another one:

@Jay_Glazer news on the eagles dc?>Asked permission and granted it for saints db coach dennis allen. Scoopage for ya

Not sure how I feel about that one...

Washburn worked under Gregg Williams in TEN for a few years, bringing in Washburn and looking at one of Williams current assistants as DC might not be a coincidence.

 

[Jason Wood]

This is great news, I love the idea of some new blood on the defensive staff after far too many years (even with Jim Johnson at the helm), the defense came up small at times yet never seemed to be called to task in the same way the offense is micro-analyzed. For as frustrating as anything we've seen our offense do (whether it be a McNabb pass in the dirt or a drop by a WR in a key playoff game or the run/pass ratio, etc...), for me it seems that every time we need a big stop on 3rd and long, or in the red zone, we never get it. In spite of usually ranking reasonably high in "impact" plays like sacks and turnovers forced. I want stout, disciplined front seven play where if we get a team on 3rd and long, they PUNT rather than make some easy completion or up the gut run to extend the drive.

 

[Gold Standard]

This is great news, I love the idea of some new blood on the defensive staff after far too many years (even with Jim Johnson at the helm), the defense came up small at times yet never seemed to be called to task in the same way the offense is micro-analyzed. For as frustrating as anything we've seen our offense do (whether it be a McNabb pass in the dirt or a drop by a WR in a key playoff game or the run/pass ratio, etc...), for me it seems that every time we need a big stop on 3rd and long, or in the red zone, we never get it. In spite of usually ranking reasonably high in "impact" plays like sacks and turnovers forced. I want stout, disciplined front seven play where if we get a team on 3rd and long, they PUNT rather than make some easy completion or up the gut run to extend the drive.

I couldn't agree more, even the more astute members of the Philly press like Ray Diddy winge and moan about the offense (i.e. run/pass ratio), but in the end still manage to throw up over 400 points a year - the defense on the other hand since the Super Bowl team NEVER can get the big stop when needed, and has absolutely no identity. We know what the Eagles offense is for better for worse, but the D??? No feel from that group whatsoever.

 

[Jason Wood]

This is great news, I love the idea of some new blood on the defensive staff after far too many years (even with Jim Johnson at the helm), the defense came up small at times yet never seemed to be called to task in the same way the offense is micro-analyzed. For as frustrating as anything we've seen our offense do (whether it be a McNabb pass in the dirt or a drop by a WR in a key playoff game or the run/pass ratio, etc...), for me it seems that every time we need a big stop on 3rd and long, or in the red zone, we never get it. In spite of usually ranking reasonably high in "impact" plays like sacks and turnovers forced. I want stout, disciplined front seven play where if we get a team on 3rd and long, they PUNT rather than make some easy completion or up the gut run to extend the drive.

I couldn't agree more, even the more astute members of the Philly press like Ray Diddy winge and moan about the offense (i.e. run/pass ratio), but in the end still manage to throw up over 400 points a year - the defense on the other hand since the Super Bowl team NEVER can get the big stop when needed, and has absolutely no identity. We know what the Eagles offense is for better for worse, but the D??? No feel from that group whatsoever.

Exactly. We score points, lots of them. We may not do it in the way fans would prefer, but we get on the score board. But dangit, I'm sooooooooooo tired of it being 3rd and 8 or 3rd and 13 and just knowing, as I sit in my seat, that the drive is going to continue somehow.

 

[CentralPA]

Another one:

@Jay_Glazer news on the eagles dc?>Asked permission and granted it for saints db coach dennis allen. Scoopage for ya

Not sure how I feel about that one...

from what I have read he is another young guy, mid 30's, like McDermott. But unlike McD he has had a variety of astute, intelligent coordinators he has worked under. He's a former DB that play for Texas A&M. He's coached at Tulsa, Atlanta, and New Orleans. He coached under the likes of Greg Williams, Wade Phillips, Sean Payton, some pretty intelligent minded defense coaches. He's had rave reviews for Payton and players seem to like him. Tommy Lawlor does a good job of rounding out what he thinks of him over at BGN.com. Would Mr. Wood or Mr. Pasquino has any thoughts Dennis Allen?

 

[CentralPA]

This is great news, I love the idea of some new blood on the defensive staff after far too many years (even with Jim Johnson at the helm), the defense came up small at times yet never seemed to be called to task in the same way the offense is micro-analyzed. For as frustrating as anything we've seen our offense do (whether it be a McNabb pass in the dirt or a drop by a WR in a key playoff game or the run/pass ratio, etc...), for me it seems that every time we need a big stop on 3rd and long, or in the red zone, we never get it. In spite of usually ranking reasonably high in "impact" plays like sacks and turnovers forced. I want stout, disciplined front seven play where if we get a team on 3rd and long, they PUNT rather than make some easy completion or up the gut run to extend the drive.

I couldn't agree more, even the more astute members of the Philly press like Ray Diddy winge and moan about the offense (i.e. run/pass ratio), but in the end still manage to throw up over 400 points a year - the defense on the other hand since the Super Bowl team NEVER can get the big stop when needed, and has absolutely no identity. We know what the Eagles offense is for better for worse, but the D??? No feel from that group whatsoever.

Exactly. We score points, lots of them. We may not do it in the way fans would prefer, but we get on the score board. But dangit, I'm sooooooooooo tired of it being 3rd and 8 or 3rd and 13 and just knowing, as I sit in my seat, that the drive is going to continue somehow.

The 3rd down conversions and the putrid red zone defense need to stop. If they can straighten that out the Eagles are a Super Bowl caliber team.

 

[Jason Wood]

Another one:

@Jay_Glazer news on the eagles dc?>Asked permission and granted it for saints db coach dennis allen. Scoopage for ya

Not sure how I feel about that one...

from what I have read he is another young guy, mid 30's, like McDermott. But unlike McD he has had a variety of astute, intelligent coordinators he has worked under. He's a former DB that play for Texas A&M. He's coached at Tulsa, Atlanta, and New Orleans. He coached under the likes of Greg Williams, Wade Phillips, Sean Payton, some pretty intelligent minded defense coaches. He's had rave reviews for Payton and players seem to like him. Tommy Lawlor does a good job of rounding out what he thinks of him over at BGN.com. Would Mr. Wood or Mr. Pasquino has any thoughts Dennis Allen?

I honestly don't know the guy, but I'm not bothered by the idea of hiring a relative no-name. My philosophy is to hire the right guy, not the name guy.

 

[CentralPA]

Another one:

@Jay_Glazer news on the eagles dc?>Asked permission and granted it for saints db coach dennis allen. Scoopage for ya

Not sure how I feel about that one...

from what I have read he is another young guy, mid 30's, like McDermott. But unlike McD he has had a variety of astute, intelligent coordinators he has worked under. He's a former DB that play for Texas A&M. He's coached at Tulsa, Atlanta, and New Orleans. He coached under the likes of Greg Williams, Wade Phillips, Sean Payton, some pretty intelligent minded defense coaches. He's had rave reviews for Payton and players seem to like him. Tommy Lawlor does a good job of rounding out what he thinks of him over at BGN.com. Would Mr. Wood or Mr. Pasquino has any thoughts Dennis Allen?

I honestly don't know the guy, but I'm not bothered by the idea of hiring a relative no-name. My philosophy is to hire the right guy, not the name guy.

I don't know him either before the news broke that the Eagles brass was going to interview him but he sounds like he might be an up and comer. I'd rather they get Truego(sp?) from Green Bay but that may not be until after the Super Bowl if Green Bay wins Sunday. I say they hire Jauron if they don't get a chance to interview the Green Bay coach.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

It wouldn't be a name with me as much as it would be what he coaches now with DB's. I would prefer a LBer or DL oriented guy here who understands the importance of both positions.

They have Mikey Miss, Via, Sal Pal and someone else on the radio Monday and they said that it more then likely would not be Jouran as the DC. They said his passive nature and wanting to play zone a majority of the time is why. I'm not sure if that's the case or not but if that's the type of game he'll call I don't want him at all. I'd rather take a shot on the GB DL coach who has DC experience in a 4-3 and 3-4 or throw some money at the DC from the Jets.

 

[Jason Wood]

I would be interested in Trgovac as well.

To me the keys for the hire are as follows:

*** Is primarily associated with the 4-3

*** Believes in bringing pressure consistently

*** Is comfortable playing multiple coverage schemes (I think there are times for man and times for zone)

*** Is a solid communicator

 

[scratcher]

Haynesworth on Washburn:

"I owe Coach Wash pretty much everything. If my deal was $100 million or whatever, then Washburn deserves $90 million,'' Haynesworth told the Tennessean. "I have the talent, but he taught me how to let it loose. As a player, once you can get through the (colorful language), get down to the core of what he is saying, the information is more valuable than gold. He's a great coach, a great teacher. The Titans should have paid a lot of money to keep him from leaving.''Haynesworth said he knows some of the Titans' young defensive lineman might be happy to see Washburn go, because of how tough he can be."I guarantee you some of them are saying to themselves, 'Gosh, I'm glad that (expletive) is gone.' Because I felt the same way when I was a young guy with him,'' he said. "My rookie year he was on my butt, cussing me out. I couldn't even look up and see sunshine, he was on me so much.''

 

[Boccioni]

I completely agree. I confess that I've been surprised by the number of people criticizing Vick's decision-making or Reid's play-calling this year. The Eagles' offense this year finished the season ranked 3rd in NFL in points per game and 2nd in the NFL in yards per game with what everyone agrees was at best a subpar offensive line. This team is likely a handful of defensive backs and an offensive lineman away from the Super Bowl.

This is great news, I love the idea of some new blood on the defensive staff after far too many years (even with Jim Johnson at the helm), the defense came up small at times yet never seemed to be called to task in the same way the offense is micro-analyzed. For as frustrating as anything we've seen our offense do (whether it be a McNabb pass in the dirt or a drop by a WR in a key playoff game or the run/pass ratio, etc...), for me it seems that every time we need a big stop on 3rd and long, or in the red zone, we never get it. In spite of usually ranking reasonably high in "impact" plays like sacks and turnovers forced. I want stout, disciplined front seven play where if we get a team on 3rd and long, they PUNT rather than make some easy completion or up the gut run to extend the drive.

I couldn't agree more, even the more astute members of the Philly press like Ray Diddy winge and moan about the offense (i.e. run/pass ratio), but in the end still manage to throw up over 400 points a year - the defense on the other hand since the Super Bowl team NEVER can get the big stop when needed, and has absolutely no identity. We know what the Eagles offense is for better for worse, but the D??? No feel from that group whatsoever.

Exactly. We score points, lots of them. We may not do it in the way fans would prefer, but we get on the score board. But dangit, I'm sooooooooooo tired of it being 3rd and 8 or 3rd and 13 and just knowing, as I sit in my seat, that the drive is going to continue somehow.

 

[Billy Bats]

Mike Lombardo on Sal Pal's show just said that Nnamdi Ashomugha is not a fit for the type of coverage that the Eagles are currently running because he is a press coverage CB and Samuel isn't and that Ashomugha wouldn't be a good fit opposite Samuel. He also threw out some names that might interest the Eagles: Jets D Coordinator Mike Pettine, someone from the Ravens (I think Chuck Pagano I can't remember) and someone who coached at Army who all have experience in running a 4-3/3-4 hybrid.EDIT: He also said going from a 4-3 to a 3-4 would be disasterous because the Eagles don't have the personnel to do it, and it's difficult to aquire the personnel and that a hybrid would be a wiser choice.

They don't have enough linebackers to play a 4-3, forget a 3-4. Plus Andy won't do anything drastic. He'll want a guy who plays an agressive, blitzing defense like Jim Johnson's.I agree that the guy they want isn't available yet, but there's a gentleman's agreement in place. Curious though, they hired the d-line coach with Andy on vacation. I'm sure they were in touch with Reid, maybe it was decided on before he left, but it makes you wonder.

 

[delusional]

Mike Lombardo on Sal Pal's show just said that Nnamdi Ashomugha is not a fit for the type of coverage that the Eagles are currently running because he is a press coverage CB and Samuel isn't and that Ashomugha wouldn't be a good fit opposite Samuel. He also threw out some names that might interest the Eagles: Jets D Coordinator Mike Pettine, someone from the Ravens (I think Chuck Pagano I can't remember) and someone who coached at Army who all have experience in running a 4-3/3-4 hybrid.EDIT: He also said going from a 4-3 to a 3-4 would be disasterous because the Eagles don't have the personnel to do it, and it's difficult to aquire the personnel and that a hybrid would be a wiser choice.

They don't have enough linebackers to play a 4-3, forget a 3-4. Plus Andy won't do anything drastic. He'll want a guy who plays an agressive, blitzing defense like Jim Johnson's.I agree that the guy they want isn't available yet, but there's a gentleman's agreement in place. Curious though, they hired the d-line coach with Andy on vacation. I'm sure they were in touch with Reid, maybe it was decided on before he left, but it makes you wonder.

I think he wants a young coach that he control.

 

[Jason Wood]

Mike Lombardo on Sal Pal's show just said that Nnamdi Ashomugha is not a fit for the type of coverage that the Eagles are currently running because he is a press coverage CB and Samuel isn't and that Ashomugha wouldn't be a good fit opposite Samuel. He also threw out some names that might interest the Eagles: Jets D Coordinator Mike Pettine, someone from the Ravens (I think Chuck Pagano I can't remember) and someone who coached at Army who all have experience in running a 4-3/3-4 hybrid.EDIT: He also said going from a 4-3 to a 3-4 would be disasterous because the Eagles don't have the personnel to do it, and it's difficult to aquire the personnel and that a hybrid would be a wiser choice.

They don't have enough linebackers to play a 4-3, forget a 3-4. Plus Andy won't do anything drastic. He'll want a guy who plays an agressive, blitzing defense like Jim Johnson's.I agree that the guy they want isn't available yet, but there's a gentleman's agreement in place. Curious though, they hired the d-line coach with Andy on vacation. I'm sure they were in touch with Reid, maybe it was decided on before he left, but it makes you wonder.

I think he wants a young coach that he control.

What does age have to do with control? Andy is the captain of that ship, his assistant coaches range from very young to very senior, and I don't know that we've ever heard of any contention. And let's remember that Jim Johnson was so old teams actually passed him over for head coaching interviews, yet he seemed to have no problems. If anything, I think Andy wants a defensive coordinator he can trust to handle that side of the ball without his interference.

 

[CentralPA]

Mike Lombardo on Sal Pal's show just said that Nnamdi Ashomugha is not a fit for the type of coverage that the Eagles are currently running because he is a press coverage CB and Samuel isn't and that Ashomugha wouldn't be a good fit opposite Samuel. He also threw out some names that might interest the Eagles: Jets D Coordinator Mike Pettine, someone from the Ravens (I think Chuck Pagano I can't remember) and someone who coached at Army who all have experience in running a 4-3/3-4 hybrid.EDIT: He also said going from a 4-3 to a 3-4 would be disasterous because the Eagles don't have the personnel to do it, and it's difficult to aquire the personnel and that a hybrid would be a wiser choice.

They don't have enough linebackers to play a 4-3, forget a 3-4. Plus Andy won't do anything drastic. He'll want a guy who plays an agressive, blitzing defense like Jim Johnson's.I agree that the guy they want isn't available yet, but there's a gentleman's agreement in place. Curious though, they hired the d-line coach with Andy on vacation. I'm sure they were in touch with Reid, maybe it was decided on before he left, but it makes you wonder.

I think he wants a young coach that he control.

What does age have to do with control? Andy is the captain of that ship, his assistant coaches range from very young to very senior, and I don't know that we've ever heard of any contention. And let's remember that Jim Johnson was so old teams actually passed him over for head coaching interviews, yet he seemed to have no problems. If anything, I think Andy wants a defensive coordinator he can trust to handle that side of the ball without his interference.

Andy is strictly an offensive minded coach. Who ever takes over the DC position we'll be in charge of it compeltely, I don't think Reid even really pays hardly any attention to that side of the game. So whoever they get has to almost be head coach in his own right. Jauron has the experience but he doesn't fit the defensive mentallity the Eagles use.

 

[Cable]

I would be interested in Trgovac as well.To me the keys for the hire are as follows:*** Is primarily associated with the 4-3*** Believes in bringing pressure consistently*** Is comfortable playing multiple coverage schemes (I think there are times for man and times for zone)*** Is a solid communicator

I like it! He also had some pretty big DTs playing for him at Carolina, like Kris Jenkins, so hopefully he'd bring that philosophy here too!

 

[dhockster]

Andy is strictly an offensive minded coach. Who ever takes over the DC position we'll be in charge of it compeltely, I don't think Reid even really pays hardly any attention to that side of the game. So whoever they get has to almost be head coach in his own right. Jauron has the experience but he doesn't fit the defensive mentallity the Eagles use.

I would amend what you said a little bit. Andy is an offensive minded coach who doesn't want to have to pay attention to the defensive side of the game. With Jim Johnson he didn't have to. With McDermott he did. That is why McDermott is gone. Reid is smart enough to know that when subordinates fail, he takes some of the blame. So he wants someone in there that, like you said, can run the defense well without Reid having to get involved.

 

[Jason Wood]

Andy is strictly an offensive minded coach. Who ever takes over the DC position we'll be in charge of it compeltely, I don't think Reid even really pays hardly any attention to that side of the game. So whoever they get has to almost be head coach in his own right. Jauron has the experience but he doesn't fit the defensive mentallity the Eagles use.

I would amend what you said a little bit. Andy is an offensive minded coach who doesn't want to have to pay attention to the defensive side of the game. With Jim Johnson he didn't have to. With McDermott he did. That is why McDermott is gone. Reid is smart enough to know that when subordinates fail, he takes some of the blame. So he wants someone in there that, like you said, can run the defense well without Reid having to get involved.

Exactly. To me that's the complete opposite of the assertion made earlier by someone who said Andy wants a "young coach who he can control." I think he wants a veteran coach that he doesn't have to control.

 

[Amused to Death]

Andy is strictly an offensive minded coach. Who ever takes over the DC position we'll be in charge of it compeltely, I don't think Reid even really pays hardly any attention to that side of the game. So whoever they get has to almost be head coach in his own right. Jauron has the experience but he doesn't fit the defensive mentallity the Eagles use.

I would amend what you said a little bit. Andy is an offensive minded coach who doesn't want to have to pay attention to the defensive side of the game. With Jim Johnson he didn't have to. With McDermott he did. That is why McDermott is gone. Reid is smart enough to know that when subordinates fail, he takes some of the blame. So he wants someone in there that, like you said, can run the defense well without Reid having to get involved.

Exactly. To me that's the complete opposite of the assertion made earlier by someone who said Andy wants a "young coach who he can control." I think he wants a veteran coach that he doesn't have to control.

There's been some speculation by beat writers that Andy has less control then we might think. Prior to this offseason, Andy never fired a coach or coordinator. Now 2 are gone and Andy's on vacation during firings, hiring and interviews. Not saying he isn't on board with the moves, but he may not be the final say."Donovan's my QB" -> Donovan's traded"Kevin Kolb is still my QB when he's healthy" -> Vick takes over"McDurmott will be back next year" -> McDurmott's fired

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I agree with the above and it shouldnt be a suprise to anyone really. We haven't won anything and we're on a 3 game playoff losing streak. No matter how good a job you've done it the past you're boss will interject if they disagree with something, Andy is no different in that aspect.

 

[delusional]

Andy is strictly an offensive minded coach. Who ever takes over the DC position we'll be in charge of it compeltely, I don't think Reid even really pays hardly any attention to that side of the game. So whoever they get has to almost be head coach in his own right. Jauron has the experience but he doesn't fit the defensive mentallity the Eagles use.

I would amend what you said a little bit. Andy is an offensive minded coach who doesn't want to have to pay attention to the defensive side of the game. With Jim Johnson he didn't have to. With McDermott he did. That is why McDermott is gone. Reid is smart enough to know that when subordinates fail, he takes some of the blame. So he wants someone in there that, like you said, can run the defense well without Reid having to get involved.

Exactly. To me that's the complete opposite of the assertion made earlier by someone who said Andy wants a "young coach who he can control." I think he wants a veteran coach that he doesn't have to control.

There's been some speculation by beat writers that Andy has less control then we might think. Prior to this offseason, Andy never fired a coach or coordinator. Now 2 are gone and Andy's on vacation during firings, hiring and interviews. Not saying he isn't on board with the moves, but he may not be the final say."Donovan's my QB" -> Donovan's traded"Kevin Kolb is still my QB when he's healthy" -> Vick takes over"McDurmott will be back next year" -> McDurmott's fired

Glad I am not the only that has noticed this. This is kinda how I meant "someone he can control". Someone he has in his pocket, like Marty M for example. He is basically andy jr. Reids control over the organization has been vanishing fast the past 2 seasons

 

[Jason Wood]

I love how a guy who got vilified for being such a workaholic that his sons ended up drug addicts and criminals is now being labeled as someone who is losing control of his organization because he's on vacation for a week in Antigua. Ahhh, the internet.

I would submit the more logical explanation is that Andy's top candidates aren't currently available for consideration (e.g., Trgovac). And if he REALLY wanted Jauron, they would've locked him down before the news of the McDermott firing even happened IMHO.

 

[dhockster]

I love how a guy who got vilified for being such a workaholic that his sons ended up drug addicts and criminals is now being labeled as someone who is losing control of his organization because he's on vacation for a week in Antigua. Ahhh, the internet.I would submit the more logical explanation is that Andy's top candidates aren't currently available for consideration (e.g., Trgovac). And if he REALLY wanted Jauron, they would've locked him down before the news of the McDermott firing even happened IMHO.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Jauron to Cleveland today and there's speculation they may ask the Eagles for permission to talk to Juan Castillo for their OC position.

 

[jasvic]

I love how a guy who got vilified for being such a workaholic that his sons ended up drug addicts and criminals is now being labeled as someone who is losing control of his organization because he's on vacation for a week in Antigua. Ahhh, the internet.I would submit the more logical explanation is that Andy's top candidates aren't currently available for consideration (e.g., Trgovac). And if he REALLY wanted Jauron, they would've locked him down before the news of the McDermott firing even happened IMHO.

If you want to have your mind explode, read the articles on philly.com then the brain dead comments below. Mind boggling and embarrassing.There is no rush to fill these positions, so waiting another week or three is not a bad thing. Get the right guy and get better.