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*** Official 2011 San Francisco 49ers Thread *** (1 Viewer)

The latest from 49erswebzone.com:

After an informal get-to-know-you lunch with beat writers today, coach Jim Harbaugh took on-the-record questions for the first time since he was hired exactly two weeks ago.

There was some hard news regarding the coaching staff coming out of the 30-minute give-and-take. And there were several questions about – who else? – quarterback Alex Smith!

Here we go:

• As expected, Jim Tomsula (defensive line), Tom Rathman (running backs) and Mike Solari (offensive line) will be retained from Mike Singletary’s staff. Harbaugh also confirmed that Brad Seely has been hired as the special teams coach. Seely was the assistant head coach/special teams coordinator in Cleveland the past two seasons.

Ray Brown, an assistant offensive line coach this past season, will also be retained. Brown will help coach tight ends and the offensive tackles. Offensive coordinator Greg Roman will serve as the lead tight ends coach. Roman also coached tight ends with the Texans and Stanford.

The final tally: Three offensive line coaches (Solari, Brown and Tim Drevno) and two tight ends coaches (Roman, Brown)

“We want to make sure that everyone’s getting coached,” Harbaugh said. “It’s a scorched-earth approach to coaching. Coaching that group — starters, backups, developmental guys. We really want to have that area coached well.”

The 49ers have also hired Ejiro Evero as a quality control coach. Evero, an assistant at the University of Redlands last year, was the Buccaneers defensive quality control coach from 2007-09. A former defensive back at UC Davis, Evero was a two-time Division II All-American.

Harbaugh said he might hire another secondary and/or linebackers coach.

• Harbaugh was asked about owner Jed York’s comments on KNBR this week regarding Alex Smith. York said the 49ers haven’t shut the door on the possibility of Smith, an unrestricted free agent, returning.

Not surprisingly, Harbaugh didn’t disagree with the boss.

“Like Jed, I would agree,” Harbaugh said. “I’m not into absolutes and alwayses and nevers, those kind of bold statements. My part is an evaluation. That’ll be of Alex and the other players on our football team … I’m going to do my part and what I feel is my knowledge of the position and make a great evaluation of the quarterbacks on the current roster and those that are out there that we could bring to the 49ers.”

Harbaugh said he’s met with Smith and other players at the 49ers facility. He’s also spoken with others on the phone. Based on his meeting with Smith, he said he didn’t think the quarterback has ruled out a return to San Francisco.

“He strikes me as somebody who’s open,” Harbaugh said. “His vision for himself, his vision and how that relates to the 49ers is to be determined. Going through the process in his mind, what’s best for him and his career and how that relates to us, that’s an exciting piece as we move forward with not only Alex, but all the players on our team.

“You hate to keep using Alex as the only example. My thing is this is a new time. This is like the Etch A Sketch when you were a kid or the plastic sheet that you lift up. There was a lot written on there and once you lift it up there’s a new, clean slate there. Everything to come is to be determined — what’s going to be written on there. Everything in the past is now in a bio.”

• Mike Singletary, famously, de-emphasized the importance of the quarterback position.

Harbaugh views the position quite differently.

The contrast was driven home when Harbaugh was asked if the Niners, given their uncertainty at the position, could get by with a less-than-elite quarterback in 2011. Or would be it necessary to have a top-flight quarterback?

“Do we need a top-flight quarterback?” he said. “Do human beings need air to breathe?”

Harbaugh followed-up by acknowledging that finding a top-flight quarterback would be a process.

“You’re talking about improving your football team and making your team better and that means getting players,” he said. “There’s only two ways to do that — either make the one you have better or get new players to come in that are better.”

• When asked about being a first-year NFL coach and dealing with the uncertainty regarding the league’s labor situation, Harbaugh busted out one of his mottos, coming, perhaps, to a T-shirt near you, “All obstacles can and must be overcome.”

He said planning for the future, and setting up countless contingency plans, is a part of his personality.

“It’s who I am in terms of I’m always doing it, always planning, saving, preparing for the future and getting angst about the what-ifs,” Harbaugh said. “But then (making) Plan A, B, C, D and it all falls together, comes together, you worry about things — but that’s my personality. I don’t know if it was the grasshopper or the … who’s the one saving stuff up for winter? The ant. I’m like the ant. Have a hard time living for today or in the past. To me it’s all like make the future the best it can be.”

• The Niners’ roster is dotted with veterans who have minimal or no playoff experience.

The list includes Takeo Spikes and Nate Clements, who have never reached the postseason in 23 combined years in the NFL, and Justin Smith, who has appeared in one playoff game in 10 seasons.

Based on his initial conversations with players, Harbaugh said their desire to end the franchise’s eight-season playoff drought was obvious.

“That’s the thing that has struck me since I’ve been here,” he said. “That’s a hungry group, guys who haven’t been to the playoffs.”

• Harbaugh won’t be attending the Senior Bowl next week, but general manager Trent Baalke will be in Mobile, Ala.

An intriguing group of quarterbacks will also be in attendance. The group consists of Washington’s Jake Locker, Nevada’s Colin Kaepernick, Alabama’s Greg McElroy, TCU’s Andy Dalton, Florida State’s Christian Ponder and Iowa’s Ricky Stanzi.

Harbaugh said he will stay in Santa Clara, splitting his time between draft preparation and evaluating free agents.

 
The final tally: Three offensive line coaches (Solari, Brown and Tim Drevno) and two tight ends coaches (Roman, Brown)“We want to make sure that everyone’s getting coached,” Harbaugh said. “It’s a scorched-earth approach to coaching. Coaching that group — starters, backups, developmental guys. We really want to have that area coached well.”“Do we need a top-flight quarterback?” he said. “Do human beings need air to breathe?”“You’re talking about improving your football team and making your team better and that means getting players,” he said. “There’s only two ways to do that — either make the one you have better or get new players to come in that are better.”
I loved everything he said (even the parts about Alex Smith). But I especially loved this stuff. I'm really digging the overload of coaches this team is bringing in.
 
The final tally: Three offensive line coaches (Solari, Brown and Tim Drevno) and two tight ends coaches (Roman, Brown)

“We want to make sure that everyone’s getting coached,” Harbaugh said. “It’s a scorched-earth approach to coaching. Coaching that group — starters, backups, developmental guys. We really want to have that area coached well.”

“Do we need a top-flight quarterback?” he said. “Do human beings need air to breathe?”

“You’re talking about improving your football team and making your team better and that means getting players,” he said. “There’s only two ways to do that — either make the one you have better or get new players to come in that are better.”
I loved everything he said (even the parts about Alex Smith). But I especially loved this stuff. I'm really digging the overload of coaches this team is bringing in.
Thats one of the things that caught my eye as well, and Im loving it too. Another quote that stood out:

"This is a new time," Harbaugh said Friday, "This is like the Etch A Sketch when you were a kid or the plastic sheet that you lift up. There was a lot written on there and once you lift it up there's a new, clean slate there. Everything to come is to be determined what's going to be written on there. Everything in the past is now in a bio."

And this:

“It’s who I am in terms of I’m always doing it, always planning, saving, preparing for the future and getting angst about the what-ifs,” Harbaugh said. “But then (making) Plan A, B, C, D and it all falls together, comes together, you worry about things — but that’s my personality. I don’t know if it was the grasshopper or the … who’s the one saving stuff up for winter? The ant. I’m like the ant. Have a hard time living for today or in the past. To me it’s all like make the future the best it can be.”

:goodposting: I really like this guy.

 
RUSF18 said:
Has there been any word on what Harbaugh and Fangio plan to do with the defense, scheme-wise?
This snippet was written before he was officially hired, but I think we may have your answer:http://www.49erswebzone.com/commentary/907...ave-seen-today/

There is a lot of speculation out there that Vic Fangio will be the new defensive coordinator for the 49ers. It's a move that makes a lot of sense: Fangio has a quarter century of experience coaching defense. He coached in both the USFL and the NFL on the staffs of Jim Mora and Dom Capers. His foundations in pressure package 3-4 defenses might just be what the 49ers need to move from good to great.

:goodposting:

 
Look for lots of talk to heat up between the 49ers and Kolb's agent. Although I still believe KK ends up in Tenn., San Fran is and will continue to make a run for him.

 
Look for lots of talk to heat up between the 49ers and Kolb's agent. Although I still believe KK ends up in Tenn., San Fran is and will continue to make a run for him.
Do you have any reason for this speculation?
I do, but can't/won't disclose it. I can just tell you it's not speculation. Those that frequent the Eagles threads know that I have contacts within some NFL team organizations and I hit way more than I miss. This doesn't mean Kolb ends up in San Fran, but I know that they have way more interest than the typical generic media response of "He's a good player; we are going to evaluate everyone; blah blah..." With that said, unless the Vick support changes, I dont see Kolb staying in Philly so he will probably end up with the highest bidder. Tenn still seems to be the most aggressive, but don't count out AZ jumping in the hunt.
 
Look for lots of talk to heat up between the 49ers and Kolb's agent. Although I still believe KK ends up in Tenn., San Fran is and will continue to make a run for him.
Do you have any reason for this speculation?
I do, but can't/won't disclose it. I can just tell you it's not speculation. Those that frequent the Eagles threads know that I have contacts within some NFL team organizations and I hit way more than I miss. This doesn't mean Kolb ends up in San Fran, but I know that they have way more interest than the typical generic media response of "He's a good player; we are going to evaluate everyone; blah blah..." With that said, unless the Vick support changes, I dont see Kolb staying in Philly so he will probably end up with the highest bidder. Tenn still seems to be the most aggressive, but don't count out AZ jumping in the hunt.
Well no one can make a move on him until the labor situation is hammered out, and that sounds more and more bleak all the time.
 
Look for lots of talk to heat up between the 49ers and Kolb's agent. Although I still believe KK ends up in Tenn., San Fran is and will continue to make a run for him.
Do you have any reason for this speculation?
I do, but can't/won't disclose it. I can just tell you it's not speculation. Those that frequent the Eagles threads know that I have contacts within some NFL team organizations and I hit way more than I miss. This doesn't mean Kolb ends up in San Fran, but I know that they have way more interest than the typical generic media response of "He's a good player; we are going to evaluate everyone; blah blah..." With that said, unless the Vick support changes, I dont see Kolb staying in Philly so he will probably end up with the highest bidder. Tenn still seems to be the most aggressive, but don't count out AZ jumping in the hunt.
iirc, you are close to Kolb...which makes some sense....but i don't recall if you have any connections in the Iggle org. Unless they drastically drop their demands, SF won't pay any more than a 2nd this year and next years 3rd, says my buddy in the SF fo....p.s. thanks for the updates, wingnut. you might be the smartest person i know to go to webzone...
 
Look for lots of talk to heat up between the 49ers and Kolb's agent. Although I still believe KK ends up in Tenn., San Fran is and will continue to make a run for him.
Do you have any reason for this speculation?
I do, but can't/won't disclose it. I can just tell you it's not speculation. Those that frequent the Eagles threads know that I have contacts within some NFL team organizations and I hit way more than I miss. This doesn't mean Kolb ends up in San Fran, but I know that they have way more interest than the typical generic media response of "He's a good player; we are going to evaluate everyone; blah blah..." With that said, unless the Vick support changes, I dont see Kolb staying in Philly so he will probably end up with the highest bidder. Tenn still seems to be the most aggressive, but don't count out AZ jumping in the hunt.
Thanks for the tidbits. :shrug:
 
As the Harbaugh era begins, 2011 promises to be a season of change for San Francisco. There will be much to discuss this offseason - from the coaching staff, to the draft, and everything in between.

Coaching hires so far (to be edited as they happen)

Head Coach: Jim Harbaugh

Offensive Coordinator: Greg Roman

Defensive Coordinator: Vic Fangio

Defensive backs coach: Ed Donatell, Jim Leavitt

Defenseive line: Jim Tomsula

Offensive Line: Mike Solari, Tim Drevno, Ray Brown

Running Backs: Tom Rathman

Special Teams: Brad Seely

Tight ends: Greg Roman, Ray Brown

2011 opponents:

Home: Arizona Cardinals, St. Louis Rams, Seattle Seahawks), Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers

Away: (Arizona Cardinals, St. Louis Rams, Seattle Seahawks), Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins, Detroit Lions, Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals

2011 draft picks:

Rnd 1: 07

Rnd 2: 13

Rnd 3: 12

Rnd 4: 11, 18 (from San Diego)

Rnd 5: 10

Rnd 6: 09, 21 (from Seattle)

Rnd 7: 07 (from Detroit), 08

49ers coaching staff at a glance

OffensiveCoordinator: Greg Roman (Stanford). 2010: Jimmy Raye/Mike Johnson. Raye was fired after three games.

Quarterbacks: Currently vacant. 2010: Mike Johnson/Jason Michael.

Running backs: Tom Rathman, though no official announcement has been made. 2010: Rathman.

Wide receivers: John Morton. (Yet to be officially announced.) 2010: Jerry Sullivan (told CSN Bay Area that he will not return).

Tight ends: Currently vacant. (Panthers tight ends coach Geep Chryst is believed to be the top candidate.) 2010: Pete Hoener, who has interviewed for at least one other NFL job.

Offensive line: Tim Drevno (Stanford) and Mike Solari, though no official announcement has been made about Solari. 2010: Mike Solari with Ray Brown as his assistant.

Defense coordinator: Vic Fangio (Stanford). 2010: Greg Manusky (hired as Chargers defensive coordinator).

Defensive line: Jim Tomsula, though no official announcement has been made. 2010: Tomsula.

Linebackers: Currently vacant. (Only reported candidate is former South Florida head coach Jim Leavitt, according to Sacramento Bee and Florida radio reports). 2010: Jason Tarver (outside LBs), Vantz Singletary (inside LBs). Singletary was fired, along with his uncle, head coach Mike Singletary.

Defensive backs: Ed Donatell. (Yet to be officially announced.) 2010: Vance Joseph/Johnnie Lynn. (Joseph accepted job with Texans, while Lynn resigned late in the season for personal reasons.)

Special teams coordinator: Currently vacant. 2010: Kurt Schottenheimer.
I cannot wait for that matchup. The Steelers are the only team that scare me more than the on-the-move 49ers.
 
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Brad Seeley (Special Teams coordinator) named Assistant Head Coach

Seely, who was hired a few days ago as Special Teams Coordinator, has also been named Assistant Head Coach....

http://www.49ers.com/news-and-events/artic...fb-be22e838b409

Heres some background on Seely, from the above link:

The San Francisco 49ers today announced they have named Brad Seely assistant head coach/special teams coordinator.

Seely, 54, brings 22 years of NFL special teams coaching experience to the 49ers. Most recently, Seely served as the special teams coordinator for the Cleveland Browns from 2009-10 where he worked with WR/KR Joshua Cribbs, who earned Pro Bowl selections in each of the last two seasons. In 2009, Seely led the Browns to a league best special teams ranking according to the formula comprised by Rick Gosselin of the Dallas Morning News. It marked Seely’s fifth top-five finish for his special teams units since 1990.

Prior to joining the Browns, Seely spent 10 seasons as the New England Patriots special teams coach (1999-08), where he was part of three Super Bowl championships. Over the span of his tenure in New England, the Patriots led the NFL in kickoff return average (23.5), were fourth in field goal percentage (83.4%) and ranked eighth in punt return average (9.9). In addition, his units registered 11 returns for touchdowns, including eight on kickoffs, a figure that tied for second in the NFL over that 10-year stretch. Seely also helped produced a total of 3 special teams Pro Bowlers (K Adam Vinatieri - 2004, LB Larry Izzo - 2004 and K Stephen Gostkowski - 2008). He also tutored the AFC’s leading kickoff returner on two occasions (WR Bethel Johnson – 2003 and RB Kevin Faulk - 2002) and leading punt returner (WR Troy Brown - 2002).

Seely worked with the Carolina Panthers from 1995-98, where he helped coach an expansion team to an NFC Championship Game appearance in just its second season. In 1996 and 1997, Panthers kickoff returner Michael Bates became the first player in 35 years to lead the league in kick return average in consecutive seasons, earning two consecutive trips to the Pro Bowl for his efforts. In 1996, Seely earned Special Teams Coach of the Year honors. He also had the league's best kicker, as John Kasay set a then NFL single-season record with 37 field goals. In addition to the success of Bates and Kasay, Carolina also boasted one of the league's top coverage units as the Panthers led the NFL in opponents average punt return (5.4 avg.) and ranked fifth in opponents average kickoff return (20.1 avg.).

Seely began his NFL career in 1989 with the Indianapolis Colts, serving as their special teams/tight ends coach for five years (1989-93). During his time with the Colts, he assisted in the development of two Pro Bowl special teamers, P Rohn Stark and WR Clarence Verdin. In 1992, the Colts had the NFL’s top specials teams unit based on rankings by the Dallas Morning News. Seely then coached the Jets’ special teams for one year (1994), and in that season, New York ranked fifth in the league in kickoff return defense (19.6 avg.) and sixth in punt return defense (6.8 avg.).

Seely’s collegiate coaching career began as an assistant coach at South Dakota State in 1978. He then moved on to become a graduate assistant at Colorado State in 1979, before being named the Rams offensive line coach in 1980. Seely then served as the offensive line coach at Southern Methodist (1981), North Carolina State (1982), University of Pacific (1983) and Oklahoma State (1984-88).

A native of Vinton, IA, Seely earned all-conference honors as an offensive guard at South Dakota State University while majoring in economics and physical education.

 
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Alex Smith had a higher QB rating than both McNabb and Fitzpatrick last year. I would rather start over and find a (new) franchise quarterback than get some veteran retread who won't get us anywhere near the Super Bowl. I suppose Harbaugh might trade for an Orton/McNabb/etc and draft a quarterback in the middle rounds, which I'd be fine with if Harbaugh is confident he can mold 'em into a franchise qb. Drafting Gabbert or Mallett (dunno about Locker though) would be fine too. It''s Jim Harbaugh, he's a damn QB guru. Hopefully we'll be fine.I had a mildly positive opinion of Mike Johnson, as did most 49er fans I think. Only problem is that we'll never know how much control he had over the offensive gameplan over the last 13 games, and whether to blame him or Singletary for our consistently inept offensive performances.
Mike Johnson was a hack. Thank God is he gone.
 
I'm starting to think Harbaugh will bring back Alex Smith for at least one more year. While I expect them to draft a rookie, they'll still need a backup. And depending when the CBA gets finished they won't be able to sign/trade anyone until right before the season starts. And as much as I hate Alex, I'd rather have him over Carr.

:bag:

 
I'm starting to think Harbaugh will bring back Alex Smith for at least one more year. While I expect them to draft a rookie, they'll still need a backup. And depending when the CBA gets finished they won't be able to sign/trade anyone until right before the season starts. And as much as I hate Alex, I'd rather have him over Carr. :shrug:
Let's say I am Browns Owner. You are 49ers owner. I propose Seneca Wallace for Troy Smith. Do you accept? :kicksrock:
 
I'm starting to think Harbaugh will bring back Alex Smith for at least one more year. While I expect them to draft a rookie, they'll still need a backup. And depending when the CBA gets finished they won't be able to sign/trade anyone until right before the season starts. And as much as I hate Alex, I'd rather have him over Carr. :shrug:
Let's say I am Browns Owner. You are 49ers owner. I propose Seneca Wallace for Troy Smith. Do you accept? :kicksrock:
Smith is a FA, but if he weren't, I'd probably take that deal as the 49ers as I think Wallace is the more accurate passer.
 
I'm starting to think Harbaugh will bring back Alex Smith for at least one more year. While I expect them to draft a rookie, they'll still need a backup. And depending when the CBA gets finished they won't be able to sign/trade anyone until right before the season starts. And as much as I hate Alex, I'd rather have him over Carr. :popcorn:
Let's say I am Browns Owner. You are 49ers owner. I propose Seneca Wallace for Troy Smith. Do you accept? :goodposting:
I'd pass, but don't really care either way. I'd cry if either guy started for the team.
 
I'm starting to think Harbaugh will bring back Alex Smith for at least one more year. While I expect them to draft a rookie, they'll still need a backup. And depending when the CBA gets finished they won't be able to sign/trade anyone until right before the season starts. And as much as I hate Alex, I'd rather have him over Carr. :lmao:
Let's say I am Browns Owner. You are 49ers owner. I propose Seneca Wallace for Troy Smith. Do you accept? :thumbdown:
Smith is a FA, but if he weren't, I'd probably take that deal as the 49ers as I think Wallace is the more accurate passer.
Really? I didn't know Troy Smith was a Free Agent... Excuse my ignorance :wub:
 
Former Seahawk Engram to help coach 49ers receivers

By ERIC BRANCH

THE PRESS DEMOCRAT

Bobby Engram, a veteran NFL wide receiver well-versed in the West Coast Offense, was hired by the 49ers on Friday as an offensive assistant coach.

Engram, 38, finished his 14-season career when he was cut on Sept. 4 by the Cleveland Browns. CSN Bay Area reported that Engram will work primarily with the wide receivers.

Engram spent eight seasons with the Seahawks (2001-08) in the West Coast offense, a system the Niners will implement this season.

At 34, Engram set career-highs in receptions (94), yards (1,147) and matched a career-best in receptions (6) while catching passes from quarterback Matt Hasselbeck, who will be a free agent. San Francisco would be a logical potential landing spot for Hasselbeck if he doesn’t re-sign with Seattle.

Engram will presumably work alongside wide receivers coach John Morton to help develop a young receivers corps headlined by Michael Crabtree, 23, and Josh Morgan, 25. Crabtree (55 catches, 741 yards, 6 TDs) and Morgan (44, 698, 2) ranked 51st and 87th, respectively, in the NFL in receptions this past season.

The Niners are the only NFL team to not have a wide receiver collect 900 yards in a season since 2003. In addition, a San Francisco wideout hasn’t ranked higher than 37th in the league in receptions or yardage in the past seven seasons.

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20110...ports/110129406

 
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Harbaugh wants to work with Alex Smith

http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/201...augh-wants.html

When he was on the radio earlier this month, general manager Trent Baalke listed three ways the 49ers would go about restocking the quarterback position: the draft, free agency and trades. "Is the quarterback of the future on this roster?" Baalke asked. "I think it's obvious that he isn't at this point, but things could change and they will change through one of those three vehicles."

When Jim Harbaugh went on the radio this week, he also talked about leaving no stone unturned when it came to gathering quarterbacks. But unlike Baalke, Harbaugh raised a fourth option - retaining a current quarterback, in particular, Alex Smith. "I've been studying Alex Smith and watching him," Harbaugh told Grant Napear on KHTK radio in Sacramento. "And I believe that Alex Smith can be a winning quarterback in the National Football League. I'm excited to work with him, get to know him ..."

Napear asked what Harbaugh liked about Smith. "Very accurate passer, very athletic - a guy that has played and been durable," Harbaugh said. As was the case last week when he met with reporters, Harbaugh stressed that every 49ers player had a clean slate moving forward.

But while Harbaugh may give Smith a clean slate, the 49ers fan base will not. That was evident during the season finale at Candlestick Park when a Smith incompletion triggered an avalanche of boos from the crowd. His passer rating at the time was 158.3 - perfect - and he would go on to lead his team to a 38-7 win over Arizona. It's gotten to the point that even when Smith wins, he loses.

Smith said on more than one occasion this past season that he is conscious of the booing, of the exasperation of him from the fan base. Is it fair? It doesn't really matter. It exists, and Smith will have to decide whether he can ever prosper in that atmosphere.

Harbaugh may be able to convince Baalke, who has the final say on the 49ers roster, to give Smith another shot. But the decision ultimately lies with Smith, who is scheduled to be an unrestricted free agent on March 4.

The terrible reality is that the current 49ers situation - an offensive-minded head coach who molds quarterbacks coupled with a strong supporting cast on offense - is precisely what Smith needed six years ago when he was coming out of Utah. Joining Harbaugh would be ideal for a tough 26-year-old quarterback who, as Harbaugh said, is accurate and athletic.

But as much as Harbaugh talks about fresh starts, it's not realistic for Smith. My guess is that other teams will see the same promise in him that Harbaugh sees and that he'll have a number of suitors. No team is going to guarantee him a starting job, but the 49ers won't either. My guess is that Smith walks.

-- Matt Barrows

 
Alex Smith in his 6th season is still a struggling quarterback, even in a pedestrian offense. I see Harbaugh's talk of him as smoke though. Especially the accuracy part.

 
Alex Smith in his 6th season is still a struggling quarterback, even in a pedestrian offense. I see Harbaugh's talk of him as smoke though. Especially the accuracy part.
As much as I say I want Alex gone, in those six seasons in the NFL, he has had 2 head coaches (Mike Nolan and Singletary), and 6 offensive coordinators. SIX!!!! 2005: Mike McCarthy

2006: Norv Turner

2007: Jim Hostler

2008: Mike Martz

2009: Jimmie Ray

2010: Jimmy Raye/Mike Johnson (Raye fired after 3 games)

If he were to stay, in 2011 he would have his 7th OC in 7 years (Greg Roman). Even though there are a couple good ones in that list, Im not sure any QB could be consistent and productive having to work with a new OC every year, as well as not having a good supporting cast for most of that time.

All I gotta say is, if Harbaugh wants to keep Alex, Ill give him the benefit of the doubt...and only because this is the first time he would have a real coach, one that understands QBs and knows how to mentor and develop them, as well as a stable coaching staff.

 
Alex Smith in his 6th season is still a struggling quarterback, even in a pedestrian offense. I see Harbaugh's talk of him as smoke though. Especially the accuracy part.
As much as I say I want Alex gone, in those six seasons in the NFL, he has had 2 head coaches (Mike Nolan and Singletary), and 6 offensive coordinators. SIX!!!! 2005: Mike McCarthy

2006: Norv Turner

2007: Jim Hostler

2008: Mike Martz

2009: Jimmie Ray

2010: Jimmy Raye/Mike Johnson (Raye fired after 3 games)

If he were to stay, in 2011 he would have his 7th OC in 7 years (Greg Roman). Even though there are a couple good ones in that list, Im not sure any QB could be consistent and productive having to work with a new OC every year, as well as not having a good supporting cast for most of that time.

All I gotta say is, if Harbaugh wants to keep Alex, Ill give him the benefit of the doubt...and only because this is the first time he would have a real coach, one that understands QBs and knows how to mentor and develop them, as well as a stable coaching staff.
I'm so sick of that whole argument. It's like he will have it on his tombstone the way fans use that and the tired old Meyer quote. I've seen enough of Smith and follow the team too closely to believe in that BS. Most of the offenses were either modified or watered down for he to execute anyway. The was nothing radical going on offensively in SF. The only thing that really changed much was terminology. They used the Digit System ever since Turner installed it. Harbaugh and the 49ers are better off pursuing a QB who knows how to function in the WCO. Smith will struggle with a another offensive system that is predicated on multiple reads. He is a one read, maybe two read QB. He misses more plays than he makes, and is still has mechanical issues.

Like I said, the Harbaugh quip is pure smoke. If Smith is still in SF next season it's because Jed is forcing him down his throat.

 
I think its a valid argument...not many QBs not named Peyton Manning would be able to be successful in the same situation. ..all I was saying is if Harbaugh decided to keep him on the roster to see if he could get anything out of him, I wouldnt have a problem with it. I never said I want him to stay in SF...I too, have seen enough of him at this point.

 
Look for lots of talk to heat up between the 49ers and Kolb's agent. Although I still believe KK ends up in Tenn., San Fran is and will continue to make a run for him.
Do you have any reason for this speculation?
I do, but can't/won't disclose it. I can just tell you it's not speculation. Those that frequent the Eagles threads know that I have contacts within some NFL team organizations and I hit way more than I miss. This doesn't mean Kolb ends up in San Fran, but I know that they have way more interest than the typical generic media response of "He's a good player; we are going to evaluate everyone; blah blah..." With that said, unless the Vick support changes, I dont see Kolb staying in Philly so he will probably end up with the highest bidder. Tenn still seems to be the most aggressive, but don't count out AZ jumping in the hunt.
Any info on what kind of trade offers the Eagles are expecting?
 
I think its a valid argument...not many QBs not named Peyton Manning would be able to be successful in the same situation. ..all I was saying is if Harbaugh decided to keep him on the roster to see if he could get anything out of him, I wouldnt have a problem with it. I never said I want him to stay in SF...I too, have seen enough of him at this point.
Not very many Franchises insist on starting their mediocre choice at QB for 6 years, and backing him up with even worse choices @ QB. I think as below average as Smith is, he has had a charmed life in SF. He really doesn't have to be good, because even the Franchise itself will find an excuse for him. They surely haven't sought anything better than Smith for 6 years. Probably because he is still Jed and Co's Golden Boy.

 
Smith IMO is as good as gone. If there's one thing I can say about Jed is that he's definitely got his finger on the pulse of the fanbase, and the fans are clearly not in Smith's corner. Having watched Smith for his whole career, he just doesn't have it. Potential franchise QBs may struggle their first year, but there are at least moments where they wow you between the boneheaded plays. Smith has just been consistently mediocre his entire career and still makes the same gaffes that he did as a rookie.

Also watched some youtube of Gabbert against Illinois today and must reaffirm my assessment that he looks like a completed facsimile of Smith, if not worse. Skiddish in the pocket, doesn't step up, runs towards the hashmarks and backwards when feeling pressured (a trademark Smith-ish move during his early years) Maybe he's just been poorly coached but I was much more impressed with Mallett against a more talented OSU defense. Also was impressed with Stanzi from what little I saw of him in the Senior Bowl.

 
If Smith is still in SF next season it's because Jed is forcing him down his throat.
I think it more likely that Smith is on the roster merely because with the CBA in question, SF won't be able to bring in a QB early enough to learn Harbaugh's playbook.If the new agreement isn't finalized until mid summer (or even later), that's not much time to consummate a trade and get someone in early enough to be starting in week 1.
 
If Smith is still in SF next season it's because Jed is forcing him down his throat.
I think it more likely that Smith is on the roster merely because with the CBA in question, SF won't be able to bring in a QB early enough to learn Harbaugh's playbook.If the new agreement isn't finalized until mid summer (or even later), that's not much time to consummate a trade and get someone in early enough to be starting in week 1.
:thumbup: I'll be a bit surprised (but quite happy) if Alex Smith isn't back for another year. But I have total faith in Harbaugh - if he keeps Alex I trust it will work out. And :lmao: at androidfishs' crappy bait.
 
I'd like to see SF obtain Carson Palmer, draft their QB of the future and let him learn for a couple of seasons. I have to believe that Palmer is a huge upgrade over Smith and would make SF an instant division contender.

 
I'd like to see SF obtain Carson Palmer, draft their QB of the future and let him learn for a couple of seasons. I have to believe that Palmer is a huge upgrade over Smith and would make SF an instant division contender.
Count me in the camp that thinks Palmer's arm is toast. I don't want him in SF. Or McNabb. I'd rather sign Kitna if he's a FA.
 
I know this almost seems ridiculous but when talking about veteran QBs with experience in the WCO... is <gulp> Jeff Garcia </gulp> an option?

I see the niners O returning to a style similar to Mooch's offense in the early part of the decade. Power running via zone blocking schemes with gore/dixon playing the part of hearst/barlow, VD as TO. Crabtree IMO will be the wild card here. I don't have high hopes of him being some kind of game breaking receiver, but if he can be something in the mold of a Donald Driver, this offense could really take off.

 
Matt Barrows had a chat a yesterday where he said he expected the Niners to trade for Kolb (CBA permitting). Maiocco has said similar things. I'm guessing where there is smoke, there's fire.

 
I don't know, he looked old, slow, and out of shape. I suppose anything outside of the Smiths is an upgrade, but I'd rather have vince young under center than watch mcnabb skip passes to his wrs. Wish they could get somebody like Fitzpatrick, constantly overlooked but always overperforming.

SF fans...do you think they'd trade a 4th rounder for McNabb? Then use the 1st rounder for more pressing needs. They'd have McNabb, Gore, Crabtree, Vernon Davis, Morgan/Ginn, Westbrook. And use the 7th to pick up Amukamara to fill their need at CB. Pick up another RB in round 2...maybe LeShoure...or hope Locker falls thast far.

In the NFC West, that makes them instant contenders.
The thought of trying to teach Vince Young the WCO in a lockout-shortened offseason is, quite frankly, horrifying.
Fixed.
 
Harbaugh adds two more to staff; Tom Gamble promoted to Baalke's old position

The San Francisco 49ers made two more additions to their coaching staff Friday, announcing that Reggie Davis will be the team’s tight ends coach and Peter Hansen will be a defensive assistant and quality control coach.

Both have ties to new Niners head coach Jim Harbaugh.

Davis, 34, who spent the past three years as running backs coach at Oregon State, was on Harbaugh’s staff at the University of San Diego in 2004, working with tight ends and special teams. He was also Harbaugh’s teammate for two seasons (1999-2000) on the San Diego Chargers.

Hansen was a defensive assistant at Stanford the past two years and worked with new 49ers defensive coordinator Vic Fangio on film breakdown, scouting reports and practice preparation.

Hansen also was a strength and conditioning intern at Stanford in 2008. He attended Palo Alto High School, where he played for his father, Earl, the longtime football coach at the school.

Harbaugh may add another secondary coach to complete his staff.

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Tom Gamble, a veteran of 23 seasons in the NFL and the San Francisco 49ers director of pro personnel since 2005, has been promoted to director of player personnel, the team announced Friday.

Gamble is essentially taking over the job that general manager Trent Baalke held previously. Baalke, who was named GM on Jan. 4, had the title of vice president of player personnel.

“We are very fortunate to have a guy with the wide range of experience that Tom possesses,” Baalke said in a statement issued by the team. “He’s worked with some of the best in the business throughout his career and has been around football his entire life.”

Gamble will oversee the Niners’ college and pro personnel departments. In his previous role as director of pro personnel, he monitored every NFL roster with an emphasis on scouting talent of upcoming pro free agents while maintaining continuous depth of personnel on the 49ers roster. Early in 2010, he was assigned additional responsibilities in collegiate scouting, particularly regarding the preparation for that year’s NFL draft.

Gamble’s father, Harry Gamble, is a former general manager and president of the Philadelphia Eagles. Harry also served as head coach at the University of Pennsylvania and Lafayette College and later served as an assistant on coach **** Vermeil’s Eagles staff.

During his time in the NFL, Tom Gamble has helped build nine playoff teams – five with Indianapolis and four with Philadelphia. Prior to his arrival in San Francisco, he was a college scout for the Colts from 1998 through the 2005 draft, under veteran NFL executive Bill Polian.

 
Matt Barrows had a chat a yesterday where he said he expected the Niners to trade for Kolb (CBA permitting). Maiocco has said similar things. I'm guessing where there is smoke, there's fire.
:unsure: Thats what I have been hearing from inside too. The other tidbit that has been dropped is the love affair with TAM Von Miller.And seriously Joe--I get my first timeout after 10 years on these boards for telling the androidspammer that his fishing was stupid? :yes:
 
Jim Harbaugh digs up Bill Walsh tapes as teaching tool

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/...-teaching-tool/

Joe Posnanski wrote a great piece last week about the constancy of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Through good times and slightly less good times, the Steelers have retained their identity to the delight of their fans.

Another great dynasty, the 49ers, lost their way sometime around the Dennis Erickson era.

To the delight of 49ers fans, Jim Harbaugh wants to bring the identity of the West Coast offense back to San Francisco. Bill Walsh endorsed Harbaugh for the Stanford job back in 2007, and Harbaugh has made it his mission to bring Walsh’s principles back to the franchise.

Matt Maiocco of Comcast Bay Area reports the 49ers recently received a “shipment of tapes and DVDs from NFL Films” that contains Walsh installing the offense over the years.

The 49ers — always ahead of their time — taped everything. Unfortunately for Harbaugh, the library of videos at the team facility has been decimated by coaches that took videos and never returned them.

When Harbaugh has a little more time in his schedule and the new videos are cataloged, he’s looking forward to watching and learning from Walsh.

“We’re all very excited about that,” Harbaugh told Maiocco. “We’re all kind of champing at the bit to get our hands on that.”

 
Matt Barrows had a chat a yesterday where he said he expected the Niners to trade for Kolb (CBA permitting). Maiocco has said similar things. I'm guessing where there is smoke, there's fire.
As I said earlier, this scenario is VERY legit; However I now believe the Niners are going to be "outbid" by another team.
 
G-King said:
Matt Barrows had a chat a yesterday where he said he expected the Niners to trade for Kolb (CBA permitting). Maiocco has said similar things. I'm guessing where there is smoke, there's fire.
As I said earlier, this scenario is VERY legit; However I now believe the Niners are going to be "outbid" by another team.
Whatchu got G-King?BTW--Maocco's replacement has a decent blog, and sounds like espn and nfl.com both recently had Mocks where Peterson dropped to SF at #7 :thumbup: Too good to be true.
 
Anyone know more about this Robert Quinn? From all accounts it sounds like he's the Dez Bryant of defense of this year's draft.

And although it's not plausible, what do the niners do if AJ Green is still on the board when they pick at 7?

 
Anyone know more about this Robert Quinn? From all accounts it sounds like he's the Dez Bryant of defense of this year's draft. And although it's not plausible, what do the niners do if AJ Green is still on the board when they pick at 7?
Quinn is a manchild. He's going to test off the charts at the combine. They say he can play in a 2 or 3 pt stance...I am not familiar enough with him to say if he can play standing up. 270 lbs is a big dude to stand up!If AJ is there....I think you auction the pick off to any non-Ram team who wants AJ. :shrug: Can't see how a team w/o a QB can have two top ten picks at WR. JMHO.
 

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