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*** Official 2013 St. Louis Rams Thread *** (1 Viewer)

Nice writeup by Jim Thomas on the Ram's youth movement.

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Rams rely on youth in massive makeover

By Jim Thomas jthomas@post-dispatch.com

PHOENIX, Ariz. • Not many teams can lose their leading rusher and two of their top three wide receivers, and say with a straight face that they’re looking for improvement next season on offense.

But that’s where the Rams stand after losing running back Steven Jackson (to Atlanta) and wide receivers Danny Amendola (New England) and Brandon Gibson (Miami) in free agency.

With the “garage sale” phase of free agency about to start and the draft still to come, it’s safe to say the St. Louis offense will undergo a massive makeover for 2013. This was partly by design and partly because of outside circumstances.

At the NFC coaches’ breakfast Wednesday, Jeff Fisher said he knew it was possible that Jackson, Amendola and Gibson could all land elsewhere in free agency.

“We’ve known obviously since September about ‘Jack’s’ future,” Fisher said, referring to the change in Jackson’s contract made at that time, allowing him to void the final year of his contract. “It was a good situation for both sides.”

As for Amendola, Fisher said Wednesday the Rams got a strong hint from Amendola’s agents about where things might be headed in September as well.

“We made an attempt to (negotiate with) Danny in September and they decided to wait,” Fisher said. “They had made their mind up that they were gonna wait — just wait till free agency.

“Our issue with Danny was — we didn’t want to lose Danny; we were willing to pay Danny — but Danny had missed a lot of games. So our preference was as we were going through this, is he needed to be on the field to get paid, which makes sense. They understood that, and we understood that. You know, it just didn’t work out. But he’ll do well and we’ll have options.”

When it comes to those “options” at wide receiver and also at running back, Fisher was speaking specifically of the Rams’ draft class of 2012. Namely, wideouts Chris Givens and Brian Quick, and running backs Daryl Richardson and Isaiah Pead.

“We’ve always said that players make their biggest improvement from year one to year two,” Fisher said.

And it begins with the offseason conditioning program, which for the Rams starts April 15.

“Brian’s second year in the system, we expect him to (develop),” Fisher said. “The guy’s gonna make a lot of plays for us. And the same’s the case for Chris and Isaiah. Those three are gonna have to step up and play some major roles in our offense.”

Givens was the most productive of those 2012 rookies, leading the Rams with 698 receiving yards on 42 catches. Early in the season he caught passes of 50 yards-plus in five consecutive games, becoming the first rookie in league history to do so.

As the season progressed, Givens got more comfortable running short and intermediate routes, which made him more than a one-trick pony.

“He improved weekly,” Fisher said. “We were able to do more and more with him as he got more familiar. I think he knows that this is his opportunity.”

Austin Pettis obviously is being counted on at wide receiver. And potentially, the Rams could have one of the league’s better pass-catching tandems in tight ends Jared Cook and Lance Kendricks.

Opportunity also is knocking in the backfield, where it sounds like Pead has a chance to start in 2013 after barely getting off the bench last season.

“He just didn’t get a chance because of the other two,” Fisher said, referring to Jackson and Richardson. “But he’ll get his opportunity this year. ... He’s got a chance to make a lot of big plays for us.”

Pead missed almost all of the spring practice period because his college (Cincinnati) was on the quarter system, meaning its school year ended late. As a result, NFL rules didn’t make Pead available to the Rams until June other than the post-draft minicamp.

So the Rams have high hopes for Pead, which was illustrated when Fisher was asked if Pead would be used on punt and kickoff returns in 2013.

“Probably not,” Fisher said. “If at all, it would be in the kickoff (returns) as opposed to punts. But if things work out, you typically don’t use one of your top backs as a returner.”

Don’t forget Richardson. Fisher hasn’t, even though Richardson’s playing time plummeted over the second half of last season.

“We’ve got to get the ball to him in the passing game more so than we did (in 2012),” Fisher said. “We were spreading it around, but we weren’t necessarily going to the backs as much as we would’ve liked. It would be a great situation where that’s an extension of the run game, to get him out in space.”

Other than Pead and Richardson, the Rams have only two other running backs on their current roster in Terrance Ganaway and Chase Reynolds. The Rams almost certainly will add a couple of more backs to the roster before the start of training camp.

One of those backs could be a draft pick. Maybe even a high draft pick. (Eddie Lacy, that’s your cue.) But three weeks into March, Fisher isn’t certain how the running back depth chart will shake out “A.J.” — After Jackson, that is.

“We’ll fill the position,” Fisher said. “When and how I don’t know.”
 
Uh ohh!!!!...

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Rams cornerback Johnson arrested for DUI

By Jim Thomas jthomas@post-dispatch.com

Rams cornerback Trumaine Johnson, a third-round draft pick by the Rams in 2012 out of the University of Montana, was arrested Friday for driving under the influence in Missoula, Mont.

Johnson was booked at 3:05 a.m. according to Missoula County Jail records and released at 4:13 a.m. after posting a $700 bond. It's a misdemeanor charge.

According to KPAX.com, Johnson was pulled over at 2 a.m. by a Missoula Police Department officer because his headlights weren't on. Johnson subsequently refused to take a breath test.

Johnson, 23, appeared in 16 games with three starts last season as a Rams rookie. He took over as the team's third corner midway through the season, moving ahead of Bradley Fletcher on the depth chart.

He finished with 35 tackles, eight pass breakups, and two interceptions, and figures to be among the Rams' top three corners entering the 2013 season behind starters Cortland Finnegan and Janoris Jenkins.

Friday's incident along with Jenkins' suspension for a game last season after partying with two teammates before the Rams Nov. 11 contest at San Francisco could increase the need for the team to add another cornerback, either in the draft or what remains in free agency.

During the 2011 season at Montana, Johnson was tasered by Missoula police trying to control a rowdy party at Johnson's apartment. Johnson later pleaded no contest to misdemeanor disorderly conduct charges.

As for Friday's DUI charge, there was no immediate comment from Johnson's agent. The Rams released the following statement: "We are aware of the situation regarding Trumaine Johnson. We are gathering more information and we will have no further comment at this time."

Similarly, NFL executive Greg Aiello said via e-mail that the league will review the facts and make a determination on any possible discipline for Johnson.

According to the substance abuse program in the league's collective bargaining agreement, a first DUI with no aggravating circumstances results in a fine of two-game checks _ up to a maximum of $50,000.
 
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Is someone aware of the current cap number after the signing of Cook and Long?

They pretty well have to have blown the whole wad I would think. I expect the Rams were hoping to get Long down a couple million to have room to also sign Louis Delmas, who has since signed back with Detroit after also entertaining SF.
I would assume they still have money left. Not much, but some. I don't think the signing of Long would've meant that they couldn't have signed Delmas. With Delmas back in Detroit, I'm guessing they have a few mill (not slated for the rookie pool) to sign a vet. As for someone mentioning RB's above, I wonder, with the extra picks, if they will throw a 5th or later at Tampa for Blount or are hoping that they flat out cut Blount. Fisher loves Blount. And he could be had on the cheap. The guy isn't a 3 down back, but we have Pead and DRich for that. Might be a nice combo to get us through a few years while filling other holes before drafting the stud RB.
According to spotrac and OvertheCap the Rams are about 6 million under after Mikel and Cook but NOT taking into account the Long deal (which should be about 9 million, correct?) and obviously before signing the 2013 rookie class. Not sure how they are planning to fit the proverbial 10 pounds into a 5 pound bag here but I presume there is a plan. There has to be another shoe to drop somewhere for this all to work even with just what has been agreed to thus far. Am I missing something?
It doesn't look like you are missing anything. Maybe that's why Delmas went back to Detroit. Not enough money for him and Long. Then again, capology is a complicated beast. Who knows how Long's deal is structured...
The details on Long's deal are out and it's complicated. Only a 4.25 million cap hit in 2013.My link

Jake Longs contract with St. Louis Rams actually more complex than originally believed

by Ben Volin

Earlier today, we broke down Jake Longs new four-year deal with the Rams and told you how the Rams are betting that Long is going to be healthy and productive over the next three seasons.

Its true, the Rams are making that bet. But upon further review, they built plenty of protection into the contract in case Long, who has suffered a multitude of injuries over his five-year career, doesnt last.

The contract is much more complex than originally believed, because of a clerical error. Jeff Ireland called Longs negotiation with the Dolphins tricky, and now we see why.

Here is the real breakdown. Its complicated, so try to hang with us:

LONG

Years: 4

Total value: $34 million

Total guarantee: $16 million

Signing bonus: $5 million

Workout bonus: None

Not Likely To Be Earned Incentives: $375,000 each year based on playing time and playoffs, and Pro Bowl.

2013 base salary: $3 million (fully guaranteed).

2014 base salary: $8 million (100% skill/cap guarantee at time of signing and $4m guaranteed for injury at time of signing; 100% injury guarantee if on roster last day of 2013 league year).

2015 base salary: $9.25 million ($4 million fully guaranteed if on roster fifth day of 2015 league year), plus up to $400,000 in playing time escalators.

2016 base salary: $8.75 million (no guarantee) plus up to $600,000 in playing time escalators.

2013 salary cap number: $4.25 million

2014 salary cap number: $9.25 million

2015 salary cap number: $10.5 million

2016 salary cap number: $10 million

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This certainly is a lot more complex than what we had before. Basically, its a two-year deal for Long and really, only Longs 2013 season is fully guaranteed, for a total of $12 million ($5 million signing bonus, $3 million 2013 base salary and $4 million guarantee for 2014).

To get the other half of his $8 million salary in 2014, it appears he has to be on the active 53-man roster on the last day of the 2013 season which means he cant be on Injured Reserve. Thats a big distinction for Long, who has ended each of the last two seasons on IR.

The Rams could still keep Long for 2014 even if he does get hurt in 2013, though, and since theyre already paying him $4 million for that season, they probably will. But thats the first out for the Rams.

The second out is a big one, and thats before the 2015 season. The Rams can escape from the contract after just two years if they decide to cut him before the fifth day of the 2015 league year (sometime in early March).

If hes still on the roster then, he gets $4 million guaranteed. If he makes the team that season, he gets the other $5.25 million. But the Rams could also ask him to restructure his contract before that fifth day of the league year (it essentially will work as a roster bonus). And the 2016 season has no guarantee whatsoever. The Rams also built in several incentives and salary escalators for Long based on playing time markers (of which we do not know), playoff appearances and Pro Bowl visits.

So in summation, Long will receive a nice paycheck if he can stay healthy for two years. But the Rams certainly built in plenty of protection in case Long breaks down.
 
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Rams cap situation:

One year ago, the Rams spent a potential $98 million in the opening days of free agency by signing cornerback Cortland Finnegan (Tennessee), center Scott Wells (Green Bay) and defensive tackle Kendall Langford (Miami).

This year was a tight salary cap year for the Rams, but over the first six days of free agency, they have still spent a potential $79.35 million on left tackle Jake Long (Miami) and tight end Jared Cook (Tennessee), and in re-signing defensive end William Hayes.

Throw in incentives and escalator clauses for Long, Cook and Hayes, and those three contracts could max out at a combined $87.65 million. Say what you will about Stan Kroenke, but he hasn’t been shy about committing dollars to improve the team.

Long was widely considered the top offensive tackle on the market; Cook was considered one of the top — if not the best —of the tight ends available. So they were big “gets,” but those two moves have all but tapped out the Rams on the salary cap.

Latest figures from the NFL Players Association show the Rams with 50 players either under contract or tendered as restricted or exclusive rights free agents. And the money expended for those 50 players, plus dead money (money that counts against the cap for players no longer on the team), leaves the Rams with a little over $1 million in cap room.

So except for some veteran minimum contracts, the Rams are pretty much out of the free agent business for 2013. Even so, they will need to do something — most likely restructure the contract of one of their big-money players — in order to have enough cap room to sign their draft picks.

Even though Long’s contract averages $8.5 million a year, and Cook’s averages $7.02 million a year, they were structured to be cap friendly in 2013. Long counts a modest $4.25 million and Cook counts only $4 million against the cap in ‘13. Otherwise, the Rams wouldn’t have been able to sign them both.

Here’s a thumbnail look at the contracts of the new Rams and re-signed Rams, as well as those of Rams who signed elsewhere in free agency:
 
I saw that article in the paper also. The Post Dispatch estimated a little over 1 million in space. That's the least I have seen.

spotrac estimates cap at: $2,303,165

overthecap estimates cap at: $2,049,479

Whether it's a little over one or a little over two it ain't much. It's actually better than I expected though. The Long deal looks very shrewd on the Ram's part. There is still talk that they may bring back Quintin Mikell at safety and that they may make a few more smaller moves. They are basically done in FA though after grabbing the top OL and TE available. :thumbup: They'll still have to rearange a thing or two to make it fit but it's pretty clear they are running this up to the mark and have a plan. Good god this is refreshing.

Nobody can say that Kroenke isn't willing to spend the coin. If you are old like me you remember having the Bill Bidwell run Big Red Cardinals in town. It was like the Mel Brooks play "The Producers". Better days Ram fans...Better days.

 
I saw that article in the paper also. The Post Dispatch estimated a little over 1 million in space. That's the least I have seen.

spotrac estimates cap at: $2,303,512

overthecap estimates cap at: $2,774,479

Whether it's a little over one or a little over two it ain't much. It's actually better than I expected though. The Long deal looks very shrewd on the Ram's part. There is still talk that they may bring back Quintin Mikell at safety and that they may make a few more smaller moves. They are basically done in FA though after grabbing the top OL and TE available. :thumbup: They'll still have to rearange a thing or two to make it fit but it's pretty clear they are running this up to the mark and have a plan. Good god this is refreshing.

Nobody can say that Kroenke isn't willing to spend the coin. If you are old like me you remember having the Bill Bidwell run Big Red Cardinals in town. It was like the Mel Brooks play "The Producers". Better days Ram fans...Better days.
Didn't mean to repost... Updating the numbers.
 
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Rams re-sign OG Chris Williams

By Ryan Van Bibber

The St. Louis Rams made a free agent move on Monday. This time the team brought back one its own free agents, re-signing offensive lineman Chris Williams to a one-year deal that could be worth up to $2.75 million.

Dig deep into your memories from last year. The Rams added Williams during the season, amid a rash of offensive line injuries. Williams saw 82 snaps in three appearances for the Rams last year, most of his work came as a right guard in place of Harvey Dahl. According to Pro Football Focus, he allowed a sack, two hits and two hurries.

He didn't get much playing time even with the Rams hurting for help along the line. That's notable.

As a former first-round pick, there is a certain curiosity to Williams. Can he live up to the billing? Is he better off as a guard than a tackle? Let's try to answer, or at least wrap our heads around, some of the questions related to this signing.

  • What's his role? - Notice the "up to" part of his deal. That almost certainly indicates that money is attainable based on playing time. As a guy who can play tackle and guard, Williams has a certain appeal to a team that just lost Rob Turner, another versatile lineman. It's doubtful that he is pegged for a starting role, but he could compete for that in camp. The veteran minimum is likely to be the only money that counts against the cap for now.
  • Will he pan out? - Who knows. He's been in the league since 2008, and hasn't had much success. His best season was, arguably, with the Bears in 2009 as a tackle. He converted to guard the season after that, and missed time with injuries. Rams OL coach Paul Boudreau has had success with a wide range of players. Still, you have to think Williams' upside is as a versatile backup.
  • What about Harvey Dahl? - Injured, aging and carrying a big cap, a lot of people wonder if Dahl might not get the boot. I doubt it. He was the Rams' most valuable lineman last season. A restructure might be in the offing if the Rams need to find cap room for another move, but I'd go ahead and pencil Dahl in for the starting right guard spot this season.
In the end, there's no guarantee that Williams will even make the final cut. With the draft less than a month away, the Rams could have a new face or two for the offensive line by the time May OTAs get underway. For now, signing Williams to an incentive-laden contract is a low-risk move for the Rams.
 
LB Daryl Smith visits but leaves with no contract

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/lb-smith-leaves-without-deal-from-rams/article_2e2dc8d0-0bba-5b56-b485-7a8ca19091c0.html

By Jim Thomas

Linebacker Daryl Smith completed his free-agent visit to the Rams on Tuesday, but no deal appears imminent.

In fact, indications are that Smith may take several visits before reaching a decision.

Smith, who played his first nine seasons with the Jacksonville Jaguars, would fill an obvious need for the Rams at linebacker. The team needs bodies at the position, including a starter at strongside linebacker.

James Laurinaitis, Jo-Lonn Dunbar, Josh Hull, Sammy Brown and Jabara Williams are the only linebackers on the team’s current roster. And Brown and Williams have only eight games of regular-season NFL experience between them.

Smith, 31, had seven seasons with 100-plus tackles with Jacksonville and would be an instant starter in St. Louis.
 
Safety Darian Stewart re-signed

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/03/darian-stewart-signs-rfa-tender/

Rams safety Darian Stewart has signed his one-year contract offer from the club, the NFL noted in its official transactions on Wednesday.

Stewart, who is entering his fourth NFL season, was a restricted free agent. The Rams retained first-refusal rights if he signed an offer sheet with another club.

The 24-year-old Stewart recorded 10 tackles in 12 games for the Rams a season ago. He saw more playing time on defense in 2011, making 13 starts, notching 84 tackles and intercepting three passes while regularly contributing at strong safety.

Quintin Mikell and Craig Dahl, who combined to start all 16 games at the safety spots for St. Louis last season, are no longer with the club, leaving Stewart as the most experienced option at the position at the moment.
 
Predraft Visits are underway

http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2013/4/3/4178636/2013-nfl-draft-rams-visits-eddie-lacy-keenan-allen

By Ryan Van Bibber

More and more prospects are getting their dates set for a private visit with the St. Louis Rams with the 2013 NFL Draft just three weeks away. We looked at the initial round of prospect visits earlier this week, but we need to update that list with some very intriguing names.

This was the list of names we had on Monday:

David Bass - DL - Missouri Western
Brandon Williams - DL - Missouri Southern
Marcus Lattimore - RB - South Carolina
Alec Ogletree - LB - Georgia
D.J. Fluker - OT - Alabama
Mike Gillislee - RB - Florida
Terron Armstead - OT - Arkansas-Pine Bluff


Since then, we've discussed a planned visit with Oregon offensive lineman Kyle Long and West Virginia do-it-all receiver Tavon Austin.

Three more names to add to that list:

Keenan Allen - WR - Cal: He's solid receiver prospect that nobody can get excited about. Allen possesses reliable hands, a good grasp of the route tree and a long stride that makes up for his lack of pure straight line speed. Injuries are a concern, specifically a knee injury that kept him off the field for his pro day last month. He has a personal pro day set for April 9. His game reminds me a little of Danario Alexander's but with fewer knee surgeries and more consistency in catching the ball.

Eddie Lacy - RB - Alabama: Ok, we've talked about this potential pick more than enough. Some people hate the idea of using a first-round pick on Lacy. I understand. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Rams grab him in the first round either. He has to check out medically.

T.J. Moe - WR - Missouri: One of the local prospect visits teams are granted outside of the usual 30 visits. At Mizzou's pro day, Moe erased some of the damage from his 40 time at the Combine, which was the slowest of any receiver. He also reminded the press that Danny Amendola didn't post a very good 40 time either. Like Amendola, Moe could end up joining a team as an undrafted free agent. He's a quick slot guy too.
 
REMEMBERING PARDEE

The Rams organization issued a statement in remembrance of Jack Pardee who played 13 seasons at linebacker with the team in Los Angeles before going on to a coaching career in the NFL, USFL and the college ranks. Pardee died Monday of cancer. The statement read in part:

For 13 seasons, Jack gave everything he could to the organization, so much so that he eagerly returned to the field after winning a battle with cancer during the middle of his playing career. On the football field, he experienced success as a player and coach at every level of the game. Off the field, he was a family man and true gentleman.

http://m.stltoday.com/STL/db_305973/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=nh0HFiEL

 
Adding a few more names to the visit list...

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/rams-report/baylor-wr-terrance-williams-visits-rams/article_29fe0cb9-8b24-51bb-b7a9-ce23682d1f2e.html

Not unlike last year, the Rams are leaving no stone unturned when it comes to evaluating draft prospects at wide receiver. To wit, Terrance Williams of Baylor is making a pre-draft visit to Rams Park; he was scheduled to arrive Wednesday night in St. Louis.

Williams is the fourth confirmed Rams visit by a wide receiver, joining California’s Keenan Allen, West Virginia’s Tavon Austin, and Tennessee’s Justin Hunter. Williams led the nation in receiving yards last season, with 1,832 yards on 97 catches including 12 touchdowns.

Williams is considered one of the more polished wideouts in the draft in terms of his route running. He had a good week at the Senior Bowl and was impressive at the NFL Scouting Combine as well.

Also scheduled to visit the Rams are a couple of other new names: Kansas State linebacker Arthur Brown and Kentucky offensive guard Larry Warford. Both are considered among the top prospects at their position.
 
Kiper 4.0 - 2 rounds 4/4/2013

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2013/story/_/id/9123269/2013-nfl-draft-mel-kiper-latest-mock-draft-goes-two-full-rounds

16.) Tavon Austin - WR, West Virginia

Danny Amendola will be catching passes from Tom Brady in 2013, so the Rams can certainly afford to place a high priority on a slot weapon. Austin is one of the true home run threats in this draft, and while he's perfect to work in the slot, given his speed, route-running skills and soft hands, this is a player you can get creative with. The loss of Amendola leaves a void, but Austin could even be an upgrade.

22.) Kenny Vaccaro - S, Texas

The departure of Craig Dahl for San Francisco isn't what I'd call a personnel emergency, but there's not a lot left behind him. Darian Stewart and Rodney McLeod are currently penciled in as the starters, so drafting Vaccaro guarantees you an upgrade at safety in a division where safeties are vital. San Francisco, Seattle and Arizona all can test you deep, and in a couple of cases, you need safeties who can fly up to make plays on QBs who are willing to run.

46.) Montee Ball - RB, Wisconsin

Minus Steven Jackson, their depth chart at running back is set with this addition.
TST analysis: http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2013/4/4/4183618/2013-mock-draft-mel-kiper

Ball, while I like him, seems a bit of a reach here. I like the scenarios where Lacy falls to the Rams in the second. I think though if the Rams really want Lacy they have to nab him at 22 or trade down a notch. Ball seems a good all around contributor. I'm not disputing the player, I'm just not feeling it at 46.

 
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Kiper 4.0 - 2 rounds 4/4/2013

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2013/story/_/id/9123269/2013-nfl-draft-mel-kiper-latest-mock-draft-goes-two-full-rounds

16.) Tavon Austin - WR, West Virginia

Danny Amendola will be catching passes from Tom Brady in 2013, so the Rams can certainly afford to place a high priority on a slot weapon. Austin is one of the true home run threats in this draft, and while he's perfect to work in the slot, given his speed, route-running skills and soft hands, this is a player you can get creative with. The loss of Amendola leaves a void, but Austin could even be an upgrade.

22.) Kenny Vaccaro - S, Texas

The departure of Craig Dahl for San Francisco isn't what I'd call a personnel emergency, but there's not a lot left behind him. Darian Stewart and Rodney McLeod are currently penciled in as the starters, so drafting Vaccaro guarantees you an upgrade at safety in a division where safeties are vital. San Francisco, Seattle and Arizona all can test you deep, and in a couple of cases, you need safeties who can fly up to make plays on QBs who are willing to run.

46.) Montee Ball - RB, Wisconsin

Minus Steven Jackson, their depth chart at running back is set with this addition.
TST analysis: http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2013/4/4/4183618/2013-mock-draft-mel-kiper

Ball, while I like him, seems a bit of a reach here. I like the scenarios where Lacy falls to the Rams in the second. I think though if the Rams really want Lacy they have to nab him at 22 or trade down a notch. Ball seems a good all around contributor. I'm not disputing the player, I'm just not feeling it at 46.
While I agree, I think Ball could be GREAT alongside Pead/DRich as the COP in a more of a RBBC than those guys getting 25% of the carries. More like 60/40.

 
Round 4 and I'm all over it. 3 I'm ok. round 2 is too rich considering other positions of need.

It's interesting how Austin and Vaccaro keep being mocked to the Rams in their first two picks by most experts. That's probably a sure sign that it will never happen.

 
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Round 4 and I'm all over it. 3 I'm ok. round 2 is too rich considering other positions of need.It's interesting how Austin and Vaccaro keep being mocked to the Rams in their first two picks by most experts. That's probably a sure sign that it will never happen.
I hope that's not the case for Vaccaro. Austin, I see as more gimmick type player, not a traditional player at all. I don't want that in the first round...

 
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...ead-rg3-trade-was-important-for-st-louis-rams

Les Snead: RG3 trade was important for St. Louis Rams

By Dan Hanzus

Around the League Writer

You can't say Les Snead doesn't have the St. Louis Rams headed in the right direction.

The Rams went from 2-14 to 7-8-1 in the general manager's first season, including 4-1-1 in the suddenly fierce NFC West division.

The Rams enter the 2013 NFL Draft with two first-round picks, a product of their decision to trade the No. 2 overall selection to the Washington Redskins a year ago. The Redskins selected quarterback Robert Griffin III with that pick.

Snead has earned positive reviews for the job he's done so far, but his legacy in St. Louis ultimately might hinge on "the RG3 trade."

"When we made the trade last year and we got a second-rounder last year, the extra first-rounder this year and the extra first-rounder next year, that trade was a big rock for this organization," Snead said Wednesday on "The Rich Eisen Podcast". "And that rock is very important to the future of the organization."

Snead laughed to himself as he listed the embarrassment of riches the Redskins sent his way. If Sam Bradford matures into a franchise-type quarterback (remember, he was the No. 1 overall pick in 2010), the trade could set the Rams up for a decade.

It might even put them in position to compete in a division that houses two conference juggernauts in the San Francisco 49ers and Seattle Seahawks.

"As I got the job, I can't tell you how many texts I got: 'At least you're in an easy division,'" Snead recalled. "I think that one quickly turned.

"We definitely have some formidable foes in our division, but we're definitely not scared to show up and take them on in a football game."

Follow Dan Hanzus on Twitter @DanHanzus.
 
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Rams private workout Friday with Clemson WR DeAndre Hopkins went "very, very well" according to league source.
Interesting. Wonder if it was good enough to make the Rams bypass WR in the 1st round and hope he's there in the 2nd.

Edit: Since it looks like Hopkins may not have been a part of that hotel trashing after all, sounds like he may still be a target at 22. Based on what I've read about him as a player and a person, gotta like him better than Patterson, Hunter, or Allen at that point, no?

 
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Rams private workout Friday with Clemson WR DeAndre Hopkins went "very, very well" according to league source.
Interesting. Wonder if it was good enough to make the Rams bypass WR in the 1st round and hope he's there in the 2nd.

Edit: Since it looks like Hopkins may not have been a part of that hotel trashing after all, sounds like he may still be a target at 22. Based on what I've read about him as a player and a person, gotta like him better than Patterson, Hunter, or Allen at that point, no?
Local prospect TJ Moe is a guy they're eyeballing late or as UDFA
 
Rams are starting to gain a modicum of respect from the NFL with two home prime time games on 2013 schedule. It is amazing how quickly NFC west has gone from laughing stock to contenders that now the SF and Seattle matchups are now considered prime time material. The Rams are moving in the right direction but certainly have their work cut out for them keeping up with the Joneses in Seattle and SF, especially considering the wealth of picks that SF has this weekend.

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/jeff-gordon/gordon-big-stages-big-challenges-for-rams/article_b4ce8b8b-87e3-5110-b3c4-136ed8c822e8.html

BY JEFF GORDON jeffgordon@post-dispatch.com
Are the Rams finally ready for prime time? The NFL must believe so.

Their 2013 schedule gives them a Thursday night home game against the San Francisco 49ers (NFL Network) and a Monday Night showdown with the Seattle Seahawks (ESPN) at the Edward Jones Dome.

That is a healthy show of respect from the league. The Rams haven’t hosted “Monday Night Football” since 2006.

This schedule doesn’t take the Rams to London, which is a good thing. Also, there are no three-game road trips this season. That is the good news too.

The bad news: The Rams must do some heavy lifting early in their 2013 slate.

After a soft launch against the retooling Arizona Cardinals at home, they must travel to Atlanta and Dallas in Weeks 2 and 3. Then the defending NFC champion 49ers will visit The Ed.

For better or worse, it won’t take long to find out just how good this team really is.

Here some other thoughts on the 2013 schedule:

• The NFC West went from laughingstock to powerhouse in one season. As a result of that success, the Rams ended up with the league’s fourth-toughest schedule overall, based on their opponent’s won-loss record last season. They also have the toughest road schedule in the entire NFL.

• Their opponents went 137-117-2 last season for a .539 overall winning percentage. (Yes, the Rams went 4-1-1 in this tough division last season. No, they aren’t likely to repeat that success.)

• Opening against Arizona at home should help the Rams settle in. Quarterback Sam Bradford lost his favorite targets from the past few seasons, Danny Amendola and Brandon Gibson, so the passing game will have some growing to do. The same goes for the running game, which must soldier on without Steven Jackson.

• Speaking of Jackson, we’re pretty sure he will be, um, jacked up for that Week 2 reunion against his old team. This assumes he won’t strain a groin muscle or hamstring muscle between now and then.

• The Thursday night game, on the heels of road games against the Falcons and Cowboys, will provide a severe test. The Rams will have little time to prepare for San Francisco after facing tough back-to-back challenges.

• Week 5 brings Shahid Khan and his Jacksonville Jaguars to town. You will recall that Khan tried to buy the Rams before Stan Kroenke intervened. We’re guessing Khan will remember this.

• Rams coach Jeff Fisher hopes former Mizzou quarterback Blaine Gabbert will be at the helm of the Jags for that game, although he would never say that in public.

• The “MNF” game against the Seahawks comes after the Rams play at Houston and Carolina. At least they will get an extra day to get ready for Russell Wilson and his improv offense.

• Fisher gets to face his old team, the Titans, on his home field in Week 9. Former Rams defensive coordinator Gregg Williams will probably choose his words carefully while urging his troops to menace Bradford. Who knows, somebody might be taping his remarks.

• After Sam faces that test, he gets to travel to Indianapolis and play Andrew Luck’s Colts. The Bradford haters will watch this game with intense interest. What if Sam throws three interceptions and Luck lights up the Rams? The Internet might explode.

• The bye week comes late, in Week 11. This could be a good thing or a bad thing, depending on the team’s injury pattern. If the Rams can get that far into the season in reasonable shape, then they will get significant rest for the stretch run.

• The Rams hope to come out of that break refreshed and ready to face Bears quarterback Jay Cutler. This will give Chris Long, Robert Quinn, Williams Hayes and Co. a chance to pad their sack totals on their home field.

• Weeks 13 and 14 take the Rams back on the road, to face Arizona and San Francisco. Then the Rams return home for a Week 15 reunion with their would-be defensive coordinator, Rob Ryan, and the Saints. This will give Fisher and Ryan an excellent chance to reminisce about the several hours they worked together earlier this season.

• Tampa Bay comes to down in Week 16, then the Rams head back out to the Pacific Northwest to finish the regular season against the Seahawks again. Maybe this will become a tradition – something Seattle fans would welcome, based on what happened last season.

All in all, the Rams and their largely unproven running backs and receivers will need to mature in a hurry to reach the high side of .500 against these opponents.
 
i think if austin and vaccaro were there at 1.16 & 1.22, they would take both.

it is possible neither are there (seems to be more buzz about austin, but vaccaro also on the rise)...

austin seems to be emerging as consensus best WR in the class, and playmaker period, at any position...

IF austin is long gone by 1.16, luckily DAL, who might be interested in vaccaro (haven't had a great safety since darren woodson?), doesn't pick until 1.18... so that could be the first pick for STL, as there seem to be multiple options at WR, that may not be as coveted as the safety...

at 1.22, WRs like hopkins, patterson and hunter could all be there (keenan allen could be in the mix, though not sure status of his knee?)...

if (austin and) vacarro were to be gone by 1.16, and they take a WR there, there are options at safety... elam is football smart and a leader, though he is reportedly a bit undersized (relative to vaccaro)... haven't scouted cyprien (sp?), but he also sounds intriguing and possible 1st round talent... the safety from LSU looks like a big hitter but may lack instinctiveness and could struggle in coverage at next level...

don't think any way warmack or cooper fall to 1.16, but if one did, they would have to look at that...

RB is a need, no doubt, but either spot may be reach for lacy? though very likely he doesn't fall to their 2nd round pick, as noted above... maybe one of the other RB prospects in 2nd?

LB would be dark horse in 1st, but might make sense in 2nd or 3rd (they almost took bobby wagner or mychal kendricks in mid-2nd last year, if they hadn't traded down to get extra 4th and "settled" for pead)...

 
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Thanks for your thoughts, Bob. Much appreciated!

I agree with your first statement and 95% of all mock drafts. If the rams can land austin and vaccaro tomorrow we all sleep happy Thursday night.

Has there been any bigger riser than austin though. He is all the craze. People now call STL the "floor" for the short guy and for good reason. I agree that he's not getting past us. <---period. However is he getting to us? Seems more and more unlikely doesn't it? One can remember the stories of pounding the table when we got sniped last year and can see it shaping up again that way.

Nevertheless, austin, vacarro, sandcastle or whoever; the Rams are still in rebuild mode so its best not to fall in love with any player but to trade down and fill as many holes as possible. It's an optimization question. And let's be honest, the Rams are not one crack player away from the lombardi. It's hard to predict what will happen but I like the long term view here with current leadership. Honestly I will not be surprised by anything tomorrow except a scenario where they give up picks moving up to say grab austin as I've seen prognosticated at least once.

Snead and Fisher strike me as cool poker players with a lot of needs to fill so will just let the draft come to them and select the bpa as they fall. Really the QB's are the thing to watch with regard to the trade value of our picks. The Rams are certainly in a position to take advantage of the situation with two midround picks and a known willingness to deal. Will someone want to jump up to 22 for EJ?

 
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heidbrink said:
Thanks for your thoughts, Bob. Much appreciated!

I agree with your first statement and 95% of all mock drafts. If the rams can land austin and vaccaro tomorrow we all sleep happy Thursday night.

Has there been any bigger riser than austin though. He is all the craze. People now call STL the "floor" for the short guy and for good reason. I agree that he's not getting past us. <---period. However is he getting to us? Seems more and more unlikely doesn't it? One can remember the stories of pounding the table when we got sniped last year and can see it shaping up again that way.

Nevertheless, austin, vacarro, sandcastle or whoever; the Rams are still in rebuild mode so its best not to fall in love with any player but to trade down and fill as many holes as possible. It's an optimization question. And let's be honest, the Rams are not one crack player away from the lombardi. It's hard to predict what will happen but I like the long term view here with current leadership. Honestly I will not be surprised by anything tomorrow except a scenario where they give up picks moving up to say grab austin as I've seen prognosticated at least once.

Snead and Fisher strike me as cool poker players with a lot of needs to fill so will just let the draft come to them and select the bpa as they fall. Really the QB's are the thing to watch with regard to the trade value of our picks. The Rams are certainly in a position to take advantage of the situation with two midround picks and a known willingness to deal. Will someone want to jump up to 22 for EJ?
likewise...

a possible cause for optimism as to vacarro falling to them is safeties don't typically get drafted in first half of round one real estate...

i think last two were eric berry (around top five?) and earl thomas (1.12?), possibly both in 2010 draft... vacarro definitely isn't as highly regarded a prospect as berry, and probably thomas as well...

 
Nice thoughts and it's indeed possible however vacarro at 22 feels only slightly less likely than austin at 16 to me.



It is interesting the number of WR they've had in house vs any other position including safety. I expect them to feel smarter than the average bear with regard to WR and do something "clever" there. Safety and LB is harder to get a read but mikel and smith are still hanging around so they do have at least a safety net there. The Rams have proven not to be afraid of talent that falls due to "issues" so i wouldn’t be surprised at a falling star there on Thursday. Hopefully Saffold will step in time and Rok has progressed making oline less of an issue than it may at first seem. We can use as many playmakers as possible pretty much across the board.

As I said, I'd look for bpa and trade downs whenever possible.



As much as QB isn't on our list of needs, the position will be critical on thursday for the Rams.

 
given that quick was raw, a known project and not the fastest developer, i wonder if patterson would be a good fit, being a recent JUCO transfer (unless they feel really good about his projection?)... that line of thought might point more towards WRs with more polished, "pro-ready" skill set, like hopkins or hunter (or allen or woods?)...

 
given that quick was raw, a known project and not the fastest developer, i wonder if patterson would be a good fit, being a recent JUCO transfer (unless they feel really good about his projection?)... that line of thought might point more towards WRs with more polished, "pro-ready" skill set, like hopkins or hunter (or allen or woods?)...
I don't like Patterson because of that. They say the guy is a slow learner and not ready for the NFL yet. Been there, done that...

 
given that quick was raw, a known project and not the fastest developer, i wonder if patterson would be a good fit, being a recent JUCO transfer (unless they feel really good about his projection?)... that line of thought might point more towards WRs with more polished, "pro-ready" skill set, like hopkins or hunter (or allen or woods?)...
I don't like Patterson because of that. They say the guy is a slow learner and not ready for the NFL yet. Been there, done that...
I don't get this?

Being a rookie WR in the NFL takes time even for the best rookie WR's no matter what school you went to.

Some of the best WR's in the NFL from last year and here are what they did in their rookie years

-Brandon Marshall 20 catches 309 yards, 2tds

-Dez Bryant 45 catches 561 yards 6 tds

-Wes Welker 29 catches, 431 yards

-Demaryius Thomas 22 catches, 283 yards 2 tds

-Randal Cobb, 24, 369 yards 1 td

-Erik Decerk 6 catches 106 yards 1 td

-Roddy White 29 catches 446 yards 3 td

-Vincent Jackson 3 catches for 59 yards

-Reggie Wayne 27 catches for 345 yards

-Calvin Johnson 48 catches 756 yards 4 tds

-Brian Quick 11 catches 156 yards 2 tds

Way too early to make up ones mind about Quick at this stage.

 
Just wrote this in the prediction thread. Thought I'd toss it into here.

STL trades up to 15 from 22. Selects Austin and Vaccaro. Saints get more picks in later rounds for defensive depth. At #22 they select best defensive player on their board available. Jarvis Jones, Ogletree, DT.

 
Just wrote this in the prediction thread. Thought I'd toss it into here.

STL trades up to 15 from 22. Selects Austin and Vaccaro. Saints get more picks in later rounds for defensive depth. At #22 they select best defensive player on their board available. Jarvis Jones, Ogletree, DT.
From what I'm hearing Austin will not be there at 15...

 
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/97837/dont-be-scared-to-get-what-you-want

By Mike Sando | ESPN.com

For three years, the St. Louis Rams lacked sufficient offensive weapons to properly support and evaluate prized quarterback Sam Bradford.

They drafted Tavon Austin eighth overall Thursday night to change the dynamic.

The pressure isn't necessarily on Bradford to instantly produce in a huge way or else, but for the first time in the quarterback's career, the Rams have given him a highly drafted and versatile young group of targets to grow along with him.

Bradford is still just 25 years old. He's a few days younger than San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick, hard as that is to believe.

Austin, a wideout unlike any other in this draft, just turned 22. Chris Givens, who had a reception of at least 50 yards in five consecutive games as a rookie in 2012, won't turn 24 until December. Brian Quick, a second-rounder last year, turns 24 in June. Austin Pettis is 25 next month. The newly acquired Jared Cook just turned 26. Fellow tight end Lance Kendricks is 25.

The targets for Bradford range in height from the 5-foot-8 Austin to Givens (5-11), Pettis (6-3), Quick (6-3), Kendricks (6-3) and Cook (6-5).

"They're going to create mismatches which are going to have to be dealt with defensively," Rams coach Jeff Fisher said of Austin and Givens in particular.

Austin's selection marked the first time the Rams have used a first-round pick for a receiver since taking Torry Holt sixth overall in 1999. About time, right?

No wide receiver has more than eight touchdown receptions for the Rams since the team drafted Bradford first overall in 2010. Fifty-eight NFL wideouts have at least nine scoring receptions over the same three-year period.

Bradford shares some of the blame, of course. But the supporting cast has let him down too frequently. The offensive line, undermanned and ravaged by injuries, has exposed Bradford to undue punishment. Danny Amendola's injury troubles prevented Bradford from building upon an on-field relationship that appeared so promising at times, including against the 49ers last season.

"Tavon will play a similar position as Danny," Rams general manager Les Snead said by phone Thursday night. "He will also return punts and return kickoffs. And you can do some things with him that may cause defenses to wonder if the play is a throw or a run. Put him with fast tight ends, with our receivers and we're trying to create mismatches."

The Rams could have paid a premium to keep Amendola, arguably their top receiver, from leaving in free agency. They could have paid a few million bucks to keep their other starting receiver, Brandon Gibson.

Instead, the Rams have bet big on their ability to scout fresh talent. They have entrusted Fisher and Snead to build the type of supporting cast Snead helped Atlanta assemble around quarterback Matt Ryan previously. Snead was working under Falcons general manager Thomas Dimitroff when Atlanta traded up 21 spots in the first round to select receiver Julio Jones sixth overall in 2011.

"They made a larger jump and their team was probably at a more mature state," Snead said of the Falcons. "But we stated all along how we wanted to get this offense weapons."

The move from No. 16 to No. 8 for Austin could be just as significant for the Rams if they're right about Austin possessing unique qualities as a 5-foot-8, 174-pound dynamo with touchdowns as a runner, receiver and return specialist at West Virginia last season. Austin finished the season with 114 receptions for 1,289 yards and 12 receiving scores.

To get Austin, the Rams sent picks in the first, second, third and seventh rounds to Buffalo for first- and third-round choices.

"They did give up a lot," Austin told reporters in St. Louis, "but I'm definitely going to try to work my hardest to give out a lot. I'm going to come out every day at work ready to play."

The first round ended for the Rams with the team moving back from 22nd to 30th in a trade with Atlanta, then selecting outside linebacker Alec Ogletree.

"To be honest, the plan No. 1 was to come away with Tavon Austin and Alec Ogletree, and it worked out," Snead said. "We knew we would have to give up some things to get Tavon. We felt we could recoup some of those things and still get Alec."

Austin's status as the first skill player selected verifies the first part of Snead's statement. According to ESPN Stats & Information, Thursday marked only the fourth time in the common-draft era (since 1967) that no team selected a quarterback, running back or wide receiver before the eighth overall pick. Herman Moore (1991) and Al Toon (1985) went 10th overall in their draft classes. Austin and Larry Csonka (1968) went eighth in theirs.

There can be no denying the Rams got the receiver they wanted.

Rookie wideouts sometimes need time to adjust. Austin should contribute right away on special teams, at least. The biggest challenge could be digesting an NFL playbook. Processing terminology in the huddle can be much tougher than reading simplified signals from the sideline, as the case can be in college.

"I never came out of the big playbook in college [like] they have in the NFL," Austin said. "I did all signals. I don’t know how it’s going to be when I get to the league. That’s probably going to be my biggest challenge right now."

The Rams could still use a starting safety. They could use another running back to round out a backfield featuring committee backs Isaiah Pead and Daryl Richardson. Getting a big back Friday should be a priority as the Rams continue to build around Bradford.

"One of the things was, when it tipped and we gave up a second-rounder, our board was looking like the better value for our team and our fits and the roles we want them to execute the next few years was going to be more in the third, fourth, fifth and sixth rounds," Snead said.

The Rams won't be shy. Snead has demonstrated that. A year after the Rams swung a blockbuster trade with the Washington Redskins to secure two additional first-rounders and more, they were navigating their way up the board for Austin.

"You have decisions to make and don't be scared to get what you want," Snead said.
 
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given that quick was raw, a known project and not the fastest developer, i wonder if patterson would be a good fit, being a recent JUCO transfer (unless they feel really good about his projection?)... that line of thought might point more towards WRs with more polished, "pro-ready" skill set, like hopkins or hunter (or allen or woods?)...
I don't like Patterson because of that. They say the guy is a slow learner and not ready for the NFL yet. Been there, done that...
I don't get this?

Being a rookie WR in the NFL takes time even for the best rookie WR's no matter what school you went to.

Some of the best WR's in the NFL from last year and here are what they did in their rookie years

-Brandon Marshall 20 catches 309 yards, 2tds

-Dez Bryant 45 catches 561 yards 6 tds

-Wes Welker 29 catches, 431 yards

-Demaryius Thomas 22 catches, 283 yards 2 tds

-Randal Cobb, 24, 369 yards 1 td

-Erik Decerk 6 catches 106 yards 1 td

-Roddy White 29 catches 446 yards 3 td

-Vincent Jackson 3 catches for 59 yards

-Reggie Wayne 27 catches for 345 yards

-Calvin Johnson 48 catches 756 yards 4 tds

-Brian Quick 11 catches 156 yards 2 tds

Way too early to make up ones mind about Quick at this stage.
i didn't mean to impy quick has no chance to succeed, just that STL might want to choose a player with a greater liklihood of contributing at a higher level more quickly...

i hadn't planned on rams moving up for austin, but very happy they did... austin should fit the bill of being more ready to help immediately, but that is to be expected, he is a higher graded, pedigree prospect...

a few articles from some long time, local STL journalists, among the most closely associated with the organization...

bernie miklasz...

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/bernie-miklasz/bernie-rams-make-a-bold-beautiful-move/article_3e0d5b1b-eb31-5d42-891e-0367c31a055b.html

jim thomas...

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/turns-out-fisher-was-telling-the-truth-about-rams-draft/article_4f5156a8-85fe-5fbc-934a-6bb01a48cefa.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

brian burwell...

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/bryan-burwell/burwell-rams-bold-trade-move-signals-the-future-is-now/article_e9ec8a1c-5c92-502a-9753-716bf57ae70c.html

 
i love the pick of austin. some pressure is going to be put on the WRs and TE to deliver here. Fisher and Snead have put a lot of faith in them. more importantly, i think, is that Bradford has to show a lot more than he has to this point. he has weapons.

 
Fun draft day one! Love that we got the playmaker we wanted in Austin. Was shocked to see them move up to 8 to go get him. Trading back from 22 we did recoup some of the cost to do so. Along with Cook and Long, Sam is being given the tools and continuity of leadership his supporters have been clamoring for. Didn't get one of the top safeties but Ogletree will be an immediate impact starter at a position of need.

Close call by ATC1. Guessed right on the move up for Austin just underestimated how high. Rams felt compelled to get in front of the Jets and probably they were right. Snead and Fish were sure to get their guy this time after missing on Julio and Blackmon last year.

 
There couldn't have been a more perfect 1st round for the Rams, save for the loss of a 2nd rounder. Love what Austin and Ogletree bring to table.

Wonder if the Rams will move into the second for a safety.

 
nice day one summing up and day two primer with some recent intel by jim thomas...

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/rams-report/draft-day-rams-hunting-for-rb-safety-help/article_41ee0b9d-1459-5b1a-8218-af8e269a46ad.html

very excited about going up and getting austin, he will help weaponize the offense and the ST boost could win a game or two by that attribute alone... any edge important in what is expected to be an intensely competitive division in coming seasons...

i don't always go back as far as high school, but my interest was piqued on one of the draft coverages (kiper?), and it was mentioned how austin had dominated and looked like a man among boys at every level... i have to say, these are some of the most impressive prep highlights i've ever seen (shady mccoy's were also jaw dropping)...





 
Can't tell you how happy I am with the draft so far. I might even be more excited about it than last year's draft, because although a few of the picks bugged me last year, I can't say that about any of the team's picks this year, so far. I was alllllllll about Stedman Bailey over the past couple of months, so to see him on the Rams, and coming along with Tavon, is incredible.

The Rams still have a shot at some very interesting players, including Lattimore or Franklin at RB, or Jesse Williams for the DL rotation (though I'm guessing he won't last that far).

Yeah, I'm pumped.

 
ItsOnlytheRiver said:
So... WR is packed full of questions now...
But they are the good kind of questions. Givens/Austin/Bailey/Quick in 4 WR sets with Cook at TE and an empty backfield is kind of exciting, especially with Austin's ability on the screen, Givens ability to go deep, Cook and Bailey down the middle, and Quick the physical freak on the outside. lots to think about if you are an opposing DC.
 

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