** Official 2014 NFL Scouting Combine thread ** (1 Viewer)

[werdnoynek]

Andre Williams... 4.54 unofficial

He looks huge. 230 lbs. Guy is a beast.

Shonn Greene clone.

 

[Two Deep]

Early in the WR field drills it looked like a class deep in the inability to catch.

 

[Donnybrook]

You couldn't pay me to watch this crap.

Really? I think this is so fun. To each their own I guess

You couldn't pay me either, because I'm doing it for free.

I wouldn't object if someone wanted to pay me.

BTW, there is 5-6" of snow in my driveway.

 

[Gandalf]

Andre Williams... 4.54 unofficial

He looks huge. 230 lbs. Guy is a beast.

Shonn Greene clone.

Wasn't Shonn Greene slow to the hole? That's the opposite of Williams.

 

[Two Deep]

Andre Williams... 4.54 unofficial

He looks huge. 230 lbs. Guy is a beast.

Shonn Greene clone.

Wasn't Shonn Greene slow to the hole? That's the opposite of Williams.

That what she said.

 

[werdnoynek]

Andre Williams... 4.54 unofficial

He looks huge. 230 lbs. Guy is a beast.

Shonn Greene clone.

Wasn't Shonn Greene slow to the hole? That's the opposite of Williams.

Isn't the opposite of slow fast?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

If something seems too good to be true, it usually is... a lot of guys going pear shaped this afternoon.

Care to unpack this?

 

[ShaHBucks]

The Sammy Watkins sub 4.3 talks *yawn*

 

[Gandalf]

I feel like Williams goes north-south pretty quickly. Do I have that wrong?

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Early in the WR field drills it looked like a class deep in the inability to catch.

I'm not a scout, but that's the type of thing I don't want to see in a WR.

 

[Gandalf]

The Sammy Watkins sub 4.3 talks *yawn*

He's fast enough though.

 

[Gandalf]

Jeremy Hill... 4.63 again unofficial

 

[Gandalf]

Carol Hyde hammy knocked him out for rest of day

 

[Gandalf]

Tre Mason... 4.50 second attempt unofficial. Solid

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

If something seems too good to be true, it usually is... a lot of guys going pear shaped this afternoon.

I'd like to know who you don't think will be a WR1 in this draft. You sure nailed it with Allen last year.

Win some, lose some.

 

[Soulfly3]

sankey flying up the board,imo.

Fast times and ate clowney for breakfast in reps

Behemoth

 

[Gandalf]

Jerick McKinnon... 4.38 and 4.35 unofficial. That is impressive. Who is this guy???

 

[cstu]

Carol Hyde hammy knocked him out for rest of day

 

[werdnoynek]

I feel like Williams goes north-south pretty quickly. Do I have that wrong?

Watching him I can't get past the fact that he doesn't make anything happen on his own. I guess I agree he can hit the holes and, if there's no one in front of him, make some gainers. He put up big numbers at BC, big thanks to his line and poor competition. In the NFL I don't see him being a league leading rusher... Or a starting RB.

 

[Eminence]

I feel like Williams goes north-south pretty quickly. Do I have that wrong?

Watching him I can't get past the fact that he doesn't make anything happen on his own. I guess I agree he can hit the holes and, if there's no one in front of him, make some gainers. He put up big numbers at BC, big thanks to his line and poor competition. In the NFL I don't see him being a league leading rusher... Or a starting RB.

There's more than enough tape of him shaking off defenders and lowering his shoulders into defenders.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

If something seems too good to be true, it usually is... a lot of guys going pear shaped this afternoon.

I'd like to know who you don't think will be a WR1 in this draft. You sure nailed it with Allen last year.

Win some, lose some.

Your statement is too vague to have any meaning. Yes, I predict most of these guys will suck too. I won't give names of course.

 

[Gandalf]

Andre Williams... 4.53 second attempt unofficial

 

[werdnoynek]

I feel like Williams goes north-south pretty quickly. Do I have that wrong?

Watching him I can't get past the fact that he doesn't make anything happen on his own. I guess I agree he can hit the holes and, if there's no one in front of him, make some gainers. He put up big numbers at BC, big thanks to his line and poor competition. In the NFL I don't see him being a league leading rusher... Or a starting RB.

There's more than enough tape of him shaking off defenders and lowering his shoulders into defenders.

I agree, but that's not really what I'm talking about. Big guys should do that. He just doesn't do anything but hit the hole and run straight. He's the definition of a one dimensional back and it's not going to get him far in the NFL. If he comes close to what Shonn Greene is I'd actually be surprised. I'd say that's his ceiling.

 

[Eminence]

Andre Williams... 4.53 second attempt unofficial

I thought he'd be faster but I like him as a prospect.

 

[Gandalf]

LT thinks Tre Mason could be best RB in draft and that 40 is overrated.

 

[werdnoynek]

LT thinks Tre Mason could be best RB and that 40 is overrated.

I could get behind that. I'm thinking Mason, Seastrunk, or Hill will have the crown of this RB class when they've had a couple NFL seasons under their belts. My money will likely be on Seastrunk, but I'm open for a change of opinion.

 

[Gandalf]

Andre Williams... 4.53 second attempt unofficial

I thought he'd be faster but I like him as a prospect.

Me too.

 

[Gandalf]

Tre mason looked good in the cone drills. Fluid hips.

 

[Two Deep]

Did Antonio Andrews fall down in the middle of his forty run? 4.82

 

[werdnoynek]

Seastrunk official 40 time - 4.51

Black Mamba - 4.50

Two guys that play a hell of a lot faster than those times.

 

[Gottabesweet]

It's all situation for me, not impressed with any backs. Might just load up on WRs again who are first or early second guys. No slam dunk guys

 

[werdnoynek]

Andre Williams looking awkward catching the ball... Cradling it into his chest on these receiving drills.

Seastrunk on the other hand looking natural, catching with hands away from his body.

 

[Donnybrook]

Andre Williams... 4.53 second attempt unofficial

I thought he'd be faster but I like him as a prospect.

Maybe not in a PPR league

 

[Soulfly3]

LT thinks Tre Mason could be best RB and that 40 is overrated.

I could get behind that. I'm thinking Mason, Seastrunk, or Hill will have the crown of this RB class when they've had a couple NFL seasons under their belts. My money will likely be on Seastrunk, but I'm open for a change of opinion.

Sankey will be the best RB of this class, career wise... Im thinking a Steven Jackson career for him

 

[Gandalf]

Andre Williams looking awkward catching the ball... Cradling it into his chest on these receiving drills.

Seastrunk on the other hand looking natural, catching with hands away from his body.

Agreed on Williams not looking like a natural receiver

 

[Time Kibitzer]

Andre Williams isn't going to be a 3 down back in the NFL.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Andre Williams isn't going to be a 3 down back in the NFL.

Brutal.

 

[werdnoynek]

LT thinks Tre Mason could be best RB and that 40 is overrated.

I could get behind that. I'm thinking Mason, Seastrunk, or Hill will have the crown of this RB class when they've had a couple NFL seasons under their belts. My money will likely be on Seastrunk, but I'm open for a change of opinion.

Sankey will be the best RB of this class, career wise... Im thinking a Steven Jackson career for him

I think sanky will be good but he doesn't do anything great. I think that will handicap him from becoming Sjax.

 

[Leroy's Aces]

For those that use speed score as part of their evaluation process, here are the speed scores for 2014 RBs, using official weights and 40 times.

Damien WIlliams - 113

Jerick McKinnon - 111

George Atkinson III - 108

Tyler Gaffney - 108

Charles Sims - 106

Terrance West - 106

Andre Williams - 106

Dri Archer - 105

Tim Cornett - 104

Taliaferro, Lorenzo - 104

Isaiah Crowell - 103

Bishop Sankey - 103

Henry Josey - 101

Tre Mason - 101

Jeremy Hill - 99

LaDarius Perkins - 99

Carlos Hyde - 98

Lache Seastrunk - 97

Alfred Blue - 97

Devonta Freeman - 94

James White - 94

Storm Johnson - 93

David Fluellen - 90

Kapri Bibbs - 89

Silas Redd - 87

Kadeem Carey - 85

De'Anthony Thomas - 85

Antonio Andrews - 83

James Wilder - 83

Tim Flanders - 81

Jerome Smith - 80

Marion Grice - na

Adam Muema - na

Seastrunk, Hyde and Carey don't look so hot using this metric. Not making an excuse for Seastrunk, but given his vertical and broad jump, his 40 time seems way off, like he had an off day FWIW. I am interested in his pro day 40 time for this reason. Hyde's hammy pull may have impacted him, but it seemed to happen late in the run. I have never seen this many players over 100 in speed score.

 

[Donnybrook]

Where is Dri Archer going in this draft? You have to think a team will plan to covert him into a slot receiver ala Travon Austin.

 

[Soulfly3]

Sankey wooooooooooooooo looked Delish there making a clutch 2nd catch on a poorly thrown ball.

How are you guys so low on him?

LT sounds like he's really impressed by him as well

 

[Gandalf]

I'm not low on Sankey!!

 

[werdnoynek]

Where is Dri Archer going in this draft? You have to think a team will plan to covert him into a slot receiver ala Travon Austin.

I could see that. Will be interesting to see how he plays out.

 

[jurb26]

Not sure who's so low on Sankey. I've got him as my top RB right now and have for a while.

 

[werdnoynek]

Seastrunk looking good receiving. Hasn't dropped a ball. Not surprising... Criminally underused in Baylor passing game.

 

[Bob Magaw]

Steven Jackson was 6'2" 235 lbs. as a rookie I think (listed at 240 lbs. now).

Sankey about 5'10" 205 lbs.?

 

[Eminence]

Sankey wooooooooooooooo looked Delish there making a clutch 2nd catch on a poorly thrown ball.

How are you guys so low on him?

LT sounds like he's really impressed by him as well

I've got him in my Top 10. Reminds me of MJD.

 

[werdnoynek]

Steven Jackson was 6'2" 235 lbs. as a rookie I think (listed at 240 lbs. now).

Sankey about 5'10" 205 lbs.?

Yeah I think he was making a career comparison above but could have picked a better guy to use, they couldn't be more different.

 

[Soulfly3]

Steven Jackson was 6'2" 235 lbs. as a rookie I think (listed at 240 lbs. now).

Sankey about 5'10" 205 lbs.?

Yeah I think he was making a career comparison above but could have picked a better guy to use, they couldn't be more different.

yes, career #s type comparison.. not running/playing style.

 

[EastonBlues22]

Carey has had an absolutely brutal day today.