rockaction
Footballguy
You’ll get nothing for him but there’s a glut of running backs for 2023. So holding would be probably the best option given you’ll get no return, but he might just be on the way out of the league.
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RB James Robinson, NE (2 Viewers)
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You’ll get nothing for him but there’s a glut of running backs for 2023. So holding would be probably the best option given you’ll get no return, but he might just be on the way out of the league.
eighsse2
Footballguy
Yeah, true, the rookies and FA's will make it hard for him to find a spot. I know the injury is a devastating one, but I just keep getting stuck on "not old yet, and had 1,400 total yards as a rookie" and thinking there has to be at least somewhat realistic potential to return to solid RB status. But yeah you're probably right, everyone hates him currently so I guess it's a hold and see if he's with keeping on cut-down day in the summer.
zamboni
Footballguy
He was never a very explosive guy to begin with, mainly a hard nosed RB with good vision. But even the best vision won’t help if you don’t have the explosiveness to get to the second level - and that Achilles seemed to sapped him of that.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Beginning of the year I thought I’d blown it dealing for ETN when Robinson came out racking up yards/TDs.
Then he just fell off the map. Traded to the Jets, then healthy scratched.
Started 20.3, 16.4, 24.1 FP
Then 3, 6.2, 6.8, 0, 1.7
And then it got ugly.
I’ve seen a couple folks expressing concern about his impact on Hall next year. Long as Hall is vertical, I don’t really see that as an issue.
zamboni
Footballguy
Pretty sure he’s a UFA - with all the other FAs and rookies, he will likely have to fight for a backup role somewhere or maybe land on a practice squad. Things change fast for sure.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Oof - his timing could literally not be worse for that.
Practice squad might be the most likely outcome. After week 2 I dealt him+David Bell for Gabe Davis. Even the biggest Davis hater would probably be thrilled with that deal.
rockaction
Footballguy
He's an RFA.
zamboni
Footballguy
I stand corrected. Essentially an UFA though because I don’t see any way the Jets tender him.
I think we kind of see it the same way.
I own him on 5 dynasty teams and they are all smaller roster leagues, mainly 14 but one that allows up to 16 position players. On all 5 of those leagues if I had to make a choice today on cutting him or being part of that top 14/16 he would be cut in all 5, and know if I tried to trade him now I'd not get anything worthwhile. But I still got some hope about him for reasons you stated and I want to see what transpires in FA. The market is stacked against him so I don't expect much money but still want to see where he lands and not ruling out it's a spot I'd try and create a spot for him or maybe someone will value him as handcuff/threat and pay me something for him.
Still leaving the light on for him, but it's getting really dim.
The Frankman
Footballguy
massraider
Footballguy
Glad he got that money, he was a UDFA, right? Good for him.
zamboni
Footballguy
Yes - nice money for a guy whose NFL career seemed heading towards a quick end.
Yes, nice to see for him, always been a fan of his especially around here because all of you keep trying to treat him like a slug, lol.
Seriously only negative for me he just complicated a whole mess of cut down decisions I got to make in next two weeks in FFPC as I thought he was sure to be a cut, still might be but not a fan of cutting young #2's who have had success, plus I like to pull for him.
Boston
Footballguy
Will be interesting to see what Damien Harris signs for compared to the Robinson contract...Pats have basically traded Meyers and Harris for Juju and Robinson...not sure how much of a difference there will end up being...gotta add more than that if they want to get out of the mediocre world they are currently in.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Well, to that end he might still be a cut in FF with a short bench/smaller foster.
I don’t see him taking all of the Harris touches. Feel like it’s gonna be 65% Stevenson/35% everyone else.
Not hating on the dude. Just a tough situation with R.S. seemingly in full command of that backfield.
That said, Pats run a lot, so the flip side to that argument is that if R.S. were to miss time, Robinson could suddenly find himself in a semi-featured role.
Tough call.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I see both as slight downgrades. Juju never really impressed me outside of 1 game in KC, and while Harris fell out of favor with coaches and had some injuries, he isn’t a terrible RB.
I’m still trying to figure out what happened to Robinson in NYJ. They dealt for him, then barely used him & made him a healthy scratch the last 5 games. Did we ever find out why?
Boston
Footballguy
I don't think Harris fell out of favor as much as Stevenson asserted himself as the better RB and his injuries did nothing to help out as well...Harris is a perfect fit as the thunder in a thunder and lightning RBBC...would be a nice fit with Cook in Buffalo.
zamboni
Footballguy
IIRC, Carter and Robinson were struggling in the ground game. Saleh brought Knight into the mix for a spark and Robinson was the odd man out - not playing special teams (which Ty Johnson did) was probably a big factor. Then when Knight popped, they kept Robinson inactive. He also seemed to vocalize his displeasure about being inactive, which didn’t help his cause.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Fair point.
zamboni
Footballguy
That last sentence is strange because he never played special teams - in fact, one of the main reasons he was inactive down the stretch last year. I guess guys can and have to morph their games though.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
NE can move on from Robinson very easily. He agreed to a contract without a signing bonus or any guaranteed money. The Pats also have Ty Montgomery coming back. They loved him last year before he got hurt right before the season started.
The stuff listed that Robinson could emerge as a special teams mainstay is something tacked on to the write up. Robinson has never played a snap on special teams in the NFL. He returned 15 kickoffs in college (14 as a freshman) and returned 1 punt. Maybe NE will try to integrate him somewhere on special teams, but that might be hard to learn on the fly, given that it’s been 7 years since he returned a few kicks.
The stuff listed that Robinson could emerge as a special teams mainstay is something tacked on to the write up. Robinson has never played a snap on special teams in the NFL. He returned 15 kickoffs in college (14 as a freshman) and returned 1 punt. Maybe NE will try to integrate him somewhere on special teams, but that might be hard to learn on the fly, given that it’s been 7 years since he returned a few kicks.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Possibly Cook? Or is Stevenson a real bell cow this year?
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Maybe they were just trying to get some Jets’ info, although those are usually in-season moves.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
That would leave a lot of Cook and Stevenson owners very unhappy.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
I don't see them pursuing Cook. He'd likely want way more money than they would offer him . . . and I can't imagine 30 other franchises wouldn't pony up more $$$ than NE would.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
He looked terrible with the Jets last season.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I wouldn’t be shocked if they did add one of these free agent vets late in camp.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I would think Kareem Hunt is the type of RB Belichick likes.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Makes sense since they’d most likely want a 3rd down guy. Hunt was/is more than that but he can fit that role.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Looks like he made about $2.5 million before taxes plus a debt free college experience. Certainly not a bad way to start out as a 24 year old. Hopefully he has his degree and saved the money so he can set-up well for the rest of his life. I wish he could have gotten one jucier bite at the apple but I suppose given where he came from, he did more than anyone ever could have expected.
Per The Athletics NE beat writer he has issues with his knees which started troubling him last year. Mike Reiss was hinting around that maybe he could not pass his physical.
rockaction
Footballguy
Well this is disappointing. Maybe time for the waiver wire here.
He has had sore knee issues since his Achilles tear which really (because both knees) means he's compensating and not 100 percent ready.
I've seen it fixed with a PT in weeks or months, depends on the individual and how accepting they are that they're doing something simple (running) wrong and willing to correct it.
He's in shape, pics look great.
It's not dissimilar to someone limping with a twisted ankle and then their hip, knee, or other ankle get sore.
That his knees aren't treated and aren't examined with MRIs and the usual makes this predictable too
Biabreakable
Footballguy
That was my thought as well. I don't recall NE ever paying a lot for a RB while Emperor Palpatine has been in charge.
Did they pay Corey Dillon a lot?
